Right vs. Left is Logic vs. Emotion

[francoHFW]

Franco has been given new talking points! He is almost to predictable. Gets caught lying and switches subjects! He is following his leadership well. Franco is a prefect Democrat, he gets spoon fed and doesn't think!

Dems aren't calling for impeachment, but an investigation. The 2007 Pew survey in no longer online. The USA Today article says the same things. 65% of illegal males pay taxes and 35% own homes. 90% or so work. Can you read....

Proved you wrong on the Dems not calling for impeachment. Al Green a Democrat on the House floor called for Trumps impeachment and several others have done as well, so please, you are lying when you post that. Just stop the lying.

So, 35% of illegal male immigrants don't pay taxes, what about females? I would bet that is higher. If you or I don't pay taxes we go to jail, but let's excuse the illegal immigrant. 65% don't own homes and that number should be a lot higher, they should not be able to buy home in this country, they are lawbreakers and low lifes. 90% work? Might want to check that.

I can read and you are a liar because even when shown you are wrong you continue to lie!

Who the hell is Al Green, and who cares, dingbat? LOL. So dumb...

 

[Papageorgio]

Franco has been given new talking points! He is almost to predictable. Gets caught lying and switches subjects! He is following his leadership well. Franco is a prefect Democrat, he gets spoon fed and doesn't think!

Dems aren't calling for impeachment, but an investigation. The 2007 Pew survey in no longer online. The USA Today article says the same things. 65% of illegal males pay taxes and 35% own homes. 90% or so work. Can you read....

Proved you wrong on the Dems not calling for impeachment. Al Green a Democrat on the House floor called for Trumps impeachment and several others have done as well, so please, you are lying when you post that. Just stop the lying.

So, 35% of illegal male immigrants don't pay taxes, what about females? I would bet that is higher. If you or I don't pay taxes we go to jail, but let's excuse the illegal immigrant. 65% don't own homes and that number should be a lot higher, they should not be able to buy home in this country, they are lawbreakers and low lifes. 90% work? Might want to check that.

I can read and you are a liar because even when shown you are wrong you continue to lie!

Who the hell is Al Green, and who cares, dingbat? LOL. So dumb...

Your fellow Democratic who is a member of the US House. Again you are continuing your lies. You are a psychic idiot.

 

[francoHFW]

Obama didn't triple the debt, Reagan did.

No...all Barack Insane Obama did was jack up tax rates to unprecedented levels (highest revenues to the federal government in U.S. history) and still managed to add the same amount to the debt as all presidents in U.S. history combined had added in the previous 232 years.

Sounds like a heck of a "plan" you got there Brainless

That's how much it costs to avert ANOTHER corrupt GOP Great Depression and assist the victims duhhhhh dupe. Reagan"s 3 trillion added is nearly the same as Obama's with inflation-_in "good times" lol. What a scam...

 

[12icer]

I am going to start flaming you because I am tired of you saying a non citizen that dont even live here has the right to the Constitution of the United States.


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Did you know, that nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law or economics?

Anyone being prosecuted under the authority of the United States, has recourse to our fundamental law.

that nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics?



Yes we know Daniel that's why the left keeps doing the same thing over again and expects different results..



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Don't repubs want to lower taxes again? That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha. Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

I thought liberals said big debt doesn't matter? Oh wait that was while Obama and the Democrats ran up the debt, now that a Republican is in office, it now matters to you, why?

I've never said that. I was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

Tell us about the budget being balanced by clinton, and what if anything it had to do with Bush HAHAHA your ignorance is showing just like all liberal voters.

Fact is clinton did not balance the budget, it was done by Newt Gingrich, and the Republican controlled House of Reps where all budgets originate. Next FYI clintons budget has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH BUSH. so the brain must be small, and of a low IQ.

 

[francoHFW]

Franco has been given new talking points! He is almost to predictable. Gets caught lying and switches subjects! He is following his leadership well. Franco is a prefect Democrat, he gets spoon fed and doesn't think!

Dems aren't calling for impeachment, but an investigation. The 2007 Pew survey in no longer online. The USA Today article says the same things. 65% of illegal males pay taxes and 35% own homes. 90% or so work. Can you read....

Proved you wrong on the Dems not calling for impeachment. Al Green a Democrat on the House floor called for Trumps impeachment and several others have done as well, so please, you are lying when you post that. Just stop the lying.

So, 35% of illegal male immigrants don't pay taxes, what about females? I would bet that is higher. If you or I don't pay taxes we go to jail, but let's excuse the illegal immigrant. 65% don't own homes and that number should be a lot higher, they should not be able to buy home in this country, they are lawbreakers and low lifes. 90% work? Might want to check that.

I can read and you are a liar because even when shown you are wrong you continue to lie!

Who the hell is Al Green, and who cares, dingbat? LOL. So dumb...

Your fellow Democratic who is a member of the US House. Again you are continuing your lies. You are a psychic idiot.

And that means I LIED when I said Dems weren't calling for impeachment? LOL! Been speaking English long? Intelligent people speak in generalizations. Exceptions prove the rule. Idiot hater dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

Did you know, that nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law or economics?

Anyone being prosecuted under the authority of the United States, has recourse to our fundamental law.

that nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics?



Yes we know Daniel that's why the left keeps doing the same thing over again and expects different results..



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Don't repubs want to lower taxes again? That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha. Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

I thought liberals said big debt doesn't matter? Oh wait that was while Obama and the Democrats ran up the debt, now that a Republican is in office, it now matters to you, why?

I've never said that. I was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

Tell us about the budget being balanced by clinton, and what if anything it had to do with Bush HAHAHA your ignorance is showing just like all liberal voters.

Clinton's budget surplus was a .com fluke. Reaganism rolls on for 35 years now, pandering to the rich, wrecking the middle class and the country, scamming dupes like you. At least under Dems there is solid growth and no corrupt bubbles like the S+L and 2008, or stupid wars...

 

[francoHFW]

I'm not lying slimeball, you have no proof the reports say the same thing. So, prove it you scum liar.

dude, the entire right wing on this board are just a bunch of Red Herring specialists claiming teaching people how to fish is more important than teaching capital management under Any form of Capitalism.

This coming from the king of red herrings. LOL! You are a special kind of dumb.

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The proof is they both say the same thing DUHHH.Knucklehead!

At least I am not supporting illegal activity like you are. Congrats loser boy!

Actually you are. Pass a real plan with a real solution. The 2010 Dem Immigration Bill with an unfakable SS ID card, dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

What is this God damn bullshit of yours?



Do you really want us to hate you more to the point of flaming ?

Your choice girl..

What your suggestioning is assnine


Not allllll constitutional rights extend to non citizens but due process does. Right?

Your answer might be yes, but it seems many fed judges and constitutional scholars disagree with you.


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I am going to start flaming you because I am tired of you saying a non citizen that dont even live here has the right to the Constitution of the United States.


.

Did you know, that nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law or economics?

Anyone being prosecuted under the authority of the United States, has recourse to our fundamental law.

that nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics?



Yes we know Daniel that's why the left keeps doing the same thing over again and expects different results..



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Don't repubs want to lower taxes again? That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha. Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

Obama made over 85% of bush tax cuts permanent , as you were saying child?


And it took 231 years for America to hit 9 trillion dollars...


Obama managed to do increase it by 9 trillion in just 8 years..

A trillion for bailouts and 7 trillion increased welfare and UE for victims of Bush corrupt depression (nothing to do with Obama, dupe), which the dupes haven't HEARD OF LOL...

 

[Wyatt earp]

that nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics?



Yes we know Daniel that's why the left keeps doing the same thing over again and expects different results..



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Don't repubs want to lower taxes again? That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha. Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

I thought liberals said big debt doesn't matter? Oh wait that was while Obama and the Democrats ran up the debt, now that a Republican is in office, it now matters to you, why?

I've never said that. I was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

Tell us about the budget being balanced by clinton, and what if anything it had to do with Bush HAHAHA your ignorance is showing just like all liberal voters.

Clinton's budget surplus was a .com fluke. Reaganism rolls on for 35 years now, pandering to the rich, wrecking the middle class and the country, scamming dupes like you. At least under Dems there is solid growth and no corrupt bubbles like the S+L and 2008, or stupid wars...

Clinton's budget surplus was a .com fluke.

Lmfao that's why I love you Franco...your honest pal..


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[francoHFW]

What is this God damn bullshit of yours?



Do you really want us to hate you more to the point of flaming ?

Your choice girl..

What your suggestioning is assnine


Not allllll constitutional rights extend to non citizens but due process does. Right?

Your answer might be yes, but it seems many fed judges and constitutional scholars disagree with you.


.

I am going to start flaming you because I am tired of you saying a non citizen that dont even live here has the right to the Constitution of the United States.


.

Did you know, that nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law or economics?

Anyone being prosecuted under the authority of the United States, has recourse to our fundamental law.

that nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics?



Yes we know Daniel that's why the left keeps doing the same thing over again and expects different results..



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Don't repubs want to lower taxes again? That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha. Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

I thought liberals said big debt doesn't matter? Oh wait that was while Obama and the Democrats ran up the debt, now that a Republican is in office, it now matters to you, why?

GOP does it in "good times", Dems in GOP depressions, helping victims, dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

Don't repubs want to lower taxes again?

Absolutely. Contrary to idiotic left-wing ideology, the government is not entitled to the results of the labor of others. The Emancipation Proclamation was a war-time measure to end slavery. Then we won the Civil War to end slavery. And then we proposed, adopted, and ratified the 13th Amendment to end slavery. And through it all - the left vehemently opposed it. And to this day, they still insist that they are somehow entitled to other people's labor.

That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha.

There is no denying that it was certainly better than the Barack Insane Obama economy. Less national debt, less unemployment, less people on food stamps, less people out of the labor force, and Bush actually oversaw years of 3% or more GDP growth (something Obama never achieved).

Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

And Barack Insane Obama quintupled (that's 5x's for our uneducated friends on the left) the Reagan debt (Reagan: $2 trillion Obama: $10 trillion).

With inflation, about the same, dupe.

Now the GOP is saying 3% is crazy LOL...

 

[francoHFW]

Don't repubs want to lower taxes again? That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha. Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

I thought liberals said big debt doesn't matter? Oh wait that was while Obama and the Democrats ran up the debt, now that a Republican is in office, it now matters to you, why?

I've never said that. I was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

Tell us about the budget being balanced by clinton, and what if anything it had to do with Bush HAHAHA your ignorance is showing just like all liberal voters.

Clinton's budget surplus was a .com fluke. Reaganism rolls on for 35 years now, pandering to the rich, wrecking the middle class and the country, scamming dupes like you. At least under Dems there is solid growth and no corrupt bubbles like the S+L and 2008, or stupid wars...

Clinton's budget surplus was a .com fluke.

Lmfao that's why I love you Franco...your honest pal..


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Keep reading...

 

[12icer]

that nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics?



Yes we know Daniel that's why the left keeps doing the same thing over again and expects different results..



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Don't repubs want to lower taxes again? That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha. Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

I thought liberals said big debt doesn't matter? Oh wait that was while Obama and the Democrats ran up the debt, now that a Republican is in office, it now matters to you, why?

I've never said that. I was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

Tell us about the budget being balanced by clinton, and what if anything it had to do with Bush HAHAHA your ignorance is showing just like all liberal voters.

Clinton's budget surplus was a .com fluke. Reaganism rolls on for 35 years now, pandering to the rich, wrecking the middle class and the country, scamming dupes like you. At least under Dems there is solid growth and no corrupt bubbles like the S+L and 2008, or stupid wars...

Bullshit, The budget surplus was written by the Republican congress. The housing collapse was caused by the government, forcing the mortgage companies to loan to unqualified applicants. The democrats did all of that and are completely responsible for it. Reagans tax cuts expanded the available CAPTAL for investments and expanded the economy and created a larger tax base. It takes some time for an economic trend to begin to create growth AND it has pullbacks when capital is tightened it collapses much quicker than it gets going, The dimshit war on capital is the problem that stagnates our economy just like it has been for eight years because when the housing debacle happened, The new dimshit thieves clamped down with their fed people and their economic agenda.

As for Bush's deficit increase, what would you have left undone? The war was a small part of the increase. You apparently don't know shit about REAL economics, or capital strata.

 

[P@triot]

[ was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

It was Bill Clinton that ruined the budget. He gutted defense (to the tune of half a trillion dollars during his 8 years) which culminated in 9/11. Not only did the clean up from that cost an unimaginable amount of money, but so did rebuilding our military and so did the subsequent military operations necessary in response to 9/11.

Throw in Clinton's 1997 Community Re-Investment Act which crashed the housing market and it's no big mystery why the Bush debt was so robust. It also didn't help that he lacked the spine to slash bloated, unconstitutional departments (typical RINO).

I remember telling people during the 1990's that it would take 50 or 60 years to recover from the Bill Clinton era. I've been proven correct (as usual). I told everyone during the Obama era that we would never recover. I'm sure I'll be proven correct on that as well (sadly).

 

[danielpalos]

Did you know, that nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law or economics?

Anyone being prosecuted under the authority of the United States, has recourse to our fundamental law.

that nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics?



Yes we know Daniel that's why the left keeps doing the same thing over again and expects different results..



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Don't repubs want to lower taxes again? That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha. Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

I thought liberals said big debt doesn't matter? Oh wait that was while Obama and the Democrats ran up the debt, now that a Republican is in office, it now matters to you, why?

I've never said that. I was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

You are the rare liberal, go back on this board and lots and lots of liberals claim deficits don't matter.

They don't, if you are not simply, a lousy capitalist.

 

[danielpalos]

dude, the entire right wing on this board are just a bunch of Red Herring specialists claiming teaching people how to fish is more important than teaching capital management under Any form of Capitalism.

This coming from the king of red herrings. LOL! You are a special kind of dumb.

Mine are relevant; I am learning how to "fish", with mine. Y'all are just full of fallacy.

You are just full of it and of yourself.

nope; i try to "abstain and just say No"; unlike the right wing.

Nope, you are full of it, I tire of your silly stupid responses that have nothing to do with the thread. Your attitude is why I don't take you and your silly childish comments seriously. I like to discuss issues, you like cliches'.

i don't resort to fallacy, dear. want to, "compete" and get Boss and Ding involved?

 

[francoHFW]

Why are you expecting great results this time? That is just childish.

It is childish to keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. It will be vastly different this time because President Trump is doing the obvious and responsible thing to do - cutting the ever loving shit out of the unconstitutional and bloated bureaucracy that is the monstrosity we now call the federal government.

Thank God the adults are in charge again. This is what an adult does:

President Trump's preliminary budget proposal released in March called for the total elimination of the NEH and the National Endowment for the Arts.

National Endowment for the Humanities chairman announces resignation

And this is what an adult does:

The Trump administration on Tuesday unveiled a budget seeking $1.5 trillion in nondefense discretionary cuts and $1.4 trillion in Medicaid cuts over the course of a decade, while adding nearly half a trillion dollars to defense spending.

$2.9 trillion in cuts is exactly what this nation desperately needed. It should have been done a long time ago.

Trump releases budget that slashes government programs

BS. What it needs desperately needs is a tax hike on the ridiculously bloated megarich and investment in America. The dupes think the rich pay too much! LOL silly brainwashed functional morons...

 

[francoHFW]

[ was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

It was Bill Clinton that ruined the budget. He gutted defense (to the tune of half a trillion dollars during his 8 years) which culminated in 9/11. Not only did the clean up from that cost an unimaginable amount of money, but so did rebuilding our military and so did the subsequent military operations necessary in response to 9/11.

Throw in Clinton's 1997 Community Re-Investment Act which crashed the housing market and it's no big mystery why the Bush debt was so robust. It also didn't help that he lacked the spine to slash bloated, unconstitutional departments (typical RINO).

I remember telling people during the 1990's that it would take 50 or 60 years to recover from the Bill Clinton era. I've been proven correct (as usual). I told everyone during the Obama era that we would never recover. I'm sure I'll be proven correct on that as well (sadly).

 

[francoHFW]

Don't repubs want to lower taxes again? That was a great economy under bush the last time. Haha. Oh and Reagan tripled the debt, let's do that again.

I thought liberals said big debt doesn't matter? Oh wait that was while Obama and the Democrats ran up the debt, now that a Republican is in office, it now matters to you, why?

I've never said that. I was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

Tell us about the budget being balanced by clinton, and what if anything it had to do with Bush HAHAHA your ignorance is showing just like all liberal voters.

Clinton's budget surplus was a .com fluke. Reaganism rolls on for 35 years now, pandering to the rich, wrecking the middle class and the country, scamming dupes like you. At least under Dems there is solid growth and no corrupt bubbles like the S+L and 2008, or stupid wars...

Bullshit, The budget surplus was written by the Republican congress. The housing collapse was caused by the government, forcing the mortgage companies to loan to unqualified applicants. The democrats did all of that and are completely responsible for it. Reagans tax cuts expanded the available CAPTAL for investments and expanded the economy and created a larger tax base. It takes some time for an economic trend to begin to create growth AND it has pullbacks when capital is tightened it collapses much quicker than it gets going, The dimshit war on capital is the problem that stagnates our economy just like it has been for eight years because when the housing debacle happened, The new dimshit thieves clamped down with their fed people and their economic agenda.

As for Bush's deficit increase, what would you have left undone? The war was a small part of the increase. You apparently don't know shit about REAL economics, or capital strata.

Your ability to inhabit a totally imaginary world is noted, superduperdupe.

Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them.


Bush's documented policies and statements in timeframe leading up to the start of the Bush Mortgage Bubble include (but not limited to)

Wanting 5.5 million more minority homeowners
Tells congress there is nothing wrong with GSEs
Pledging to use federal policy to increase home ownership
Routinely taking credit for the housing market
Forcing GSEs to buy more low income home loans by raising their Housing Goals
Lowering Invesntment bank's capital requirements, Net Capital rule
Reversing the Clinton rule that restricted GSEs purchases of subprime loans
Lowering down payment requirements to 0%
Forcing GSEs to spend an additional $440 billion in the secondary markets
Giving away 40,000 free down payments
PREEMPTING ALL STATE LAWS AGAINST PREDATORY LENDING


But the biggest policy was regulators not enforcing lending standards.

FACTS on Dubya's great recession

Thanks to (JonKoch 7 reasons why liberals are incapable of understanding the world)

 

[francoHFW]

[ was quite happy when Clinton balanced the budget. Shame Bush ruined it.

It was Bill Clinton that ruined the budget. He gutted defense (to the tune of half a trillion dollars during his 8 years) which culminated in 9/11. Not only did the clean up from that cost an unimaginable amount of money, but so did rebuilding our military and so did the subsequent military operations necessary in response to 9/11.

Throw in Clinton's 1997 Community Re-Investment Act which crashed the housing market and it's no big mystery why the Bush debt was so robust. It also didn't help that he lacked the spine to slash bloated, unconstitutional departments (typical RINO).

I remember telling people during the 1990's that it would take 50 or 60 years to recover from the Bill Clinton era. I've been proven correct (as usual). I told everyone during the Obama era that we would never recover. I'm sure I'll be proven correct on that as well (sadly).

Hilariously misinformed. Clinton and Obama were as successful as they could be with total GOP obstruction and bs fear mongering propaganda.

Funny how CRA was fine until Boooshies got in charge of "oversight"...
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