Right on cue California Democrat lawmakers side with biolgical males in women's sports

[westwall]

Oh really? I've played soccer my entire life, was semi-professional for over 15 years. You know what the secret is to kicking a ball really hard? The right technique. I can kick a ball at 80 percent force, and make it really move. Providing I hit it just right and with the proper part of my foot. The fact that I don't hit it full bore but with control helps it, not hurt it. The same I suspect goes for volleyball.

As for differences. Yes, a man and a woman are different physically. On the other hand somebody who transition loses some of that advantage. And again, how many trans people play sport at a high level? Can you name 10?

Yeah? So what. 15 year old boys beat the USA Women's soccer team. No woman or girl could generate the force necessary to do permanent brain damage to the girl.

Your arguments are ridiculous.

 

[Meister]

Oh really? What to you is "level playing field?"

Would you accept me saying that basketball is ruined because it favors tall players?
Or football is ruined because it favors heavy people?
Michael Phelps broke a lot of records he was double jointed. Is that cheating? Did he ruin the entire sport of swimming?

Professional sports is not a level playing field, in fact, it's precisely having extraordinary abilities that makes you successful. Now, I for one, don't consider A FEW isolated cases of trans people competing in professional sports important enough to legislate and marginalize an entire group of people. Nor do I think A FEW isolated cases competing and MAYBE being successful (you didn't give an example of records being broken) ruins an entire sport.

You just kicked yourself in the teeth with your examples.
There are short players in the NBA, and all of them are males.
Heavy players do not make good wide receivers or running backs usually in the NFL. They too are males.
Phelps a male and does not compete with females.
Gender based, yes, professional sports is a level playing field.

 

[forkup]

Yeah? So what. 15 year old boys beat the USA Women's soccer team. No woman or girl could generate the force necessary to do permanent brain damage to the girl.

Your arguments are ridiculous.

vollyball spke woman - Search Videos

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Go ahead and tell me that getting these balls on the wrong part of the head wont do damage.

 

[Meister]

Actually of all the examples perhaps the most relevant. He had a genetic condition that increased his range of motion by 20 percent. Helping him to swim faster than the competition. Can you explain why that isn't relevant in a discussion about banning people from sports because of their genetic makeup?

He was swimming against men, wasn't he?

You like to argue apples and cigars, don't you?

 

[Billiejeens]

Trans people have been around a VERY long time. Whatever precedent you fear has been set a LOOONG time before. The percentage has been small for DECADES. What is your justification for "fearing the precedent" all of a sudden?

Women who were obviously men competing against women is not something that has been around for a long time.
Not in the real world

 

[LibertyKid]

Trans people have been around a VERY long time. Whatever precedent you fear has been set a LOOONG time before. The percentage has been small for DECADES. What is your justification for "fearing the precedent" all of a sudden?

If you have to be told what precedent is being set, then you are being intentionally obtuse.
If you feel it is okay for a high school boy, to claim he is a female, purely by declaration, and go in and compete against biological women and beat them, there is no discussion to have with you.

I question if you have ever played sports? Clearly you haven't based on your loose portrayal of previously discussed sports. You probably also have never had a child compete in sports either to understand the biological difference and the advantage that post puberty male can have over a female.

It's okay for you to have your opinion, but your opinion is based on illogical and politically biased pitfalls that completely wants to ignore what women have fought for in this country

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Why are YOU so obsessed with that "tiny percentage of the population". Half the population - women, don't care. Only men with tiny penises and no brains, care about this non-issue.

Women care about the abortion issue, and you keep killing women who are trying to have babies, and Republicans made it HARDER for pregnant women to get care. Why are Republicans doing nothing but murdering pregnant women????

"Obsessed"? I'm not obsessed, I'm part of the nearly 80% of Americans who believe biological men should not be competing in women's sports. Why aren't you with the majority that support women?

 

[forkup]

You just kicked yourself in the teeth with your examples.
There are short players in the NBA, and all of them are males.
Heavy players do not make good wide receivers or running backs usually in the NFL. They too are males.
Phelps a male and does not compete with females.
Gender based, yes, professional sports is a level playing field.

The amount of people in the NBA that are average height compared to the populace can be counted on 1 hand in the last few decades.

Your wide receivers and running backs are also well above average height and weight compared to the general populace.

Phelps had a genetic condition affording him a greater range of motion than other players.


Gender is just as arbitrary as a way to divide sport than weight, height, or double jointness.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

You're in the minority sweetie.

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But he/she/it gets the SJW brownie points.

It's all they care about.


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[LibertyKid]

Actually of all the examples perhaps the most relevant. He had a genetic condition that increased his range of motion by 20 percent. Helping him to swim faster than the competition. Can you explain why that isn't relevant in a discussion about banning people from sports because of their genetic makeup?

And he isn't the ONLY double jointed swimmer, ever? And there will be greater swimmers than phelps, but guess what, they will be biological males. And Phelps in his prime, lost, several times. So your claim really holds no merit.

 

[JGalt]

Trans people have been around a VERY long time. Whatever precedent you fear has been set a LOOONG time before. The percentage has been small for DECADES. What is your justification for "fearing the precedent" all of a sudden?

"Fear" has nothing to do with it. Not wanting to see real women getting the crap beat out of them and injured is a sentiment most normal men and women feel these days. Every man I know of values women highly and wants to cherish and protect them against being abused by other men. That's our nature.

So you're taking the wrong side of this issue, bro. Take your misogyny somewhere else, ok?

 

[Billiejeens]

In volleyball a girl was maimed for life when a tranny spiked the ball into her head. No girl could generate that much force.

In running men will win everytime against women of equal age.

In boxing a man will ALWAYS have more strength, stamina, power, and speed over a woman of equal weight.

The vaunted USA women's soccer team LOST a game to a bunch of 15 year old boys.

In tennis the Williams sisters, while at the top of their game, were crushed by a guy ranked below 200 who was smoking cigarettes between the matches.

They lost 6-1, 6-0.

We have lost our way in this society.

I can remember when the Western world took umbridge with the East German "women" competing in the Olympics.

We have skipped right to

MEN, SURE, NO PROBLEM.

 

[forkup]

And he isn't the ONLY double jointed swimmer, ever? And there will be greater swimmers than phelps, but guess what, they will be biological males. And Phelps in his prime, lost, several times. So your claim really holds no merit.

I hold just as much merit as the argument that trans people will by definition win any sport they compete in.

 

[Meister]

The amount of people in the NBA that are average height compared to the populace in the NBA can be counted on 1 hand in the last few decades.

Your wide receivers and running backs are also well general above average height and weight compared to the general populace.

Phelps had a genetic condition affording him a greater range of motion than other players.


Gender is just as arbitrary as a way to divide sport than weight, height, or double jointness.

Still arguing apples and cigars.
It's 'real' males vs 'real' females.
I hope that helps.

 

[westwall]

I hold just as much merit as the argument that trans people will by definition win any sport they compete in.

No, you actually don't. Whenever trans boys compete against girls, they win.

Easily.

 

[marvin martian]

I hold just as much merit as the argument that trans people will by definition win any sport they compete in.

No one is claiming that. We're claiming men have an unfair advantage competing against women, which is a scientific fact.

 

[Rambunctious]

"if" the granddaughter lost her position it can`t possibly be because she stinks. Or could it?

It would be because the boy is naturally bigger stronger and faster... if men were allowed to pretend to be women to get into the WNBA Katlin Clark would be just an average player... why do you dislike women and girls so much?....

 

[forkup]

If you feel it is okay for a high school boy, to claim he is a female, purely by declaration, and go in and compete against biological women and beat them, there is no discussion to have with you.

Very few boys will say they are female. Even fewer will do so because they want to win at sports. In case you guys haven't noticed, being trans is no picknick. There's a certain portion of the populace you see, who openly discriminates against them.

You probably also have never had a child compete in sports either to understand the biological difference and the advantage that post puberty male can have over a female.

I have a daughter who dances. She has a friend who was trans a few years ago, and her best friend now is gay. Guess what she finds the anti-trans movement hurtful to people she cares about.

It's okay for you to have your opinion, but your opinion is based on illogical and politically biased pitfalls that completely wants to ignore what women have fought for in this country

Lol talk about irrelevant. How do you get from not caring if trans people compete in sports to somehow not wanting to acknowledge woman have fought?

 

[forkup]

No one is claiming that. We're claiming men have an unfair advantage competing against women, which is a scientific fact.

LibertyKid claimed the example of Michael Phelps genetic advantage was invalid because of his condition wasn't unique and he sometimes lost. Thereby implying that those condition are different for trans people.

 

[Dragonlady]

The actual issue is tolerance vs. forced acceptance or even celebration.

Some people see homosexuality as sinful, and the trans issue as ignoring reality.

They are actually two different issues.

BULLSHIT. You don't want to know these people exist, and you want them erased from public view.

What is "sinful" is based on your religious beliefs and the last time I looked it was illegal to inflict your beliefs on what is "sinful", onto others.

You're just full of shit. I sure care and a whole lot of women care. Just like a self obsessed leftist to think they represent all views.

Why are leftists always so poorly informed?

You never defend your stupidity, just run from it. Keep the streak going, Puff.

Women cannot compete physically with men. It's a fact.

And those men that dress up as women are just men dressed up as women, science denier.

What stupidity would that be Bucko???

If women care so passionately about this issue, why aren't WOMEN advocating for this "protection". Why are WOMEN advocating for ABORTION RIGHTS in MASSIVE numbers, and not even mentioning trans athletes.
Millions of women are advocating and voting for affordable child care, family leave, abortion rights, and maternity leave.

Those men dressed up as women are none of my concern, unless they're members of my own family, who's lives directly impact on my own.

Science says that we all start out as women, and that there are 30 variations in the combinations of X and Y, leading to all kinds of gender diversity.

Sex differences in interindividual gene expression variability across human tissues - PMC

Understanding phenotypic sex differences has long been a goal of biology from both a medical and evolutionary perspective. Although much attention has been paid to mean differences in phenotype between the sexes, little is known about sex ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://academic.oup.com/gbe/article/10/4/1064/4895090

Sex Redefined: The Idea of 2 Sexes Is Overly Simplistic

Biologists now think there is a larger spectrum than just binary female and male

www.scientificamerican.com

Study reveals potential biological basis for transgender

A new study has uncovered a link between being transgender and changes in genes, revealing a possible biological basis for gender dysphoria.

www.hudson.org.au

Who's denying science now, A$$hat???