Rigged Elections and Voter Fraud - how common is fraud? Not very.

[BluesLegend]

How many verified cases of voter fraud?

There's a Hillary Campaign/DNC operative who just got fired for admitting on video they have been committing voter fraud for decades and have no plans to stop.

 

[Tilly]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real
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3. Some Pennsylvania citizens voting twice.

Last year, Pennsylvania’s secretary of state admitted data showed more than 700 Pennsylvania voters might have cast two ballots in recent elections, yet said she’s powerless to investigate or prosecute double voters.

Nearly 43,000 voters in Pennsylvania had potentially duplicate registrations in either Pennsylvania or other states, data researcher Voter Registration Data Crosscheck found.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Voter fraud, to the extent it exists, is a bit like bad calls by umpires. Over time, as many go for you as against you. It's a wash, at worst.

 

[Tilly]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real

2. Illegals found voting in Virginia; only discovered after they self-reported.

A study by the watchdog Public Interest Legal Foundation found in just eight Virginia counties, 1,046 alien non-citizens successfully registered to vote. These aliens were only accidentally caught because when they renewed their driver’s license and self-reported, telling authorities they were a non-citizen. This study doesn’t even include the metropolises of Fairfax County and Arlington. Moreover, the FBI opened an investigation in the state after 20 dead people turned in applications to vote.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Who's ignoring voter fraud? Have you seen the sentences and fines if caught? We have laws for voter fraud already.

We have fines and penalties for speeding on a highway. But if there are never any cops to catch the speeders, then the fines and penalties are useless. You're more than likely to get away with speeding.

 

[Tilly]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real

1. Dead people voting in Colorado.


A CBS affiliate’s evidence of voter fraud in Colorado in September sparked an immediate investigation by Secretary of State Wayne Williams. A report in Denver exposed multiple incidents in recent years where dead Coloradans were still voting. A dead World War II veteran named John Grosso voted in a 2006 primary election, and a woman named Sara Sosa who died in 2009 cast ballots in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013. Mrs. Sosa’s husband Miguel died in 2008, but a vote was cast in his name one year later.

 

[Tilly]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real

4. Illegal voters uncovered in Philadelphia; half had previously voted.

At least 86 non-citizens have been registered voters in Philadelphia since 2013, and almost half of them have cast a ballot in a recent election, watchdog Public Interest Legal Foundation noted this month. The number was only turned up after officials received specific requests from the voters themselves to remove their names from the rolls.

“This is just the tip of the iceberg,” Joseph Vanderhulst, the watchdog’s attorney, told LifeZette on Oct. 5. “Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Voter fraud, to the extent it exists, is a bit like bad calls by umpires. Over time, as many go for you as against you. It's a wash, at worst.

That's why we have instant replay now.

 

[Tilly]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real

6. Indiana voter fraud investigation grows to 56 counties.

According to a local NBC report, Indiana State Police are in the midst of a statewide investigation into possible voter registration fraud.

“Police believe there could be hundreds of fraudulent voter registration records with different combinations of made up names and addresses with people’s real information,” NBC 12 reported.

The police encourage victims of suspected voter fraud to report it to Indiana’s secretary of state.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real

6. Indiana voter fraud investigation grows to 56 counties.

According to a local NBC report, Indiana State Police are in the midst of a statewide investigation into possible voter registration fraud.

“Police believe there could be hundreds of fraudulent voter registration records with different combinations of made up names and addresses with people’s real information,” NBC 12 reported.

The police encourage victims of suspected voter fraud to report it to Indiana’s secretary of state.

For there not being voting fraud you sure are posting a lot of links about voting fraud

 

[NYcarbineer]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real

6. Indiana voter fraud investigation grows to 56 counties.

According to a local NBC report, Indiana State Police are in the midst of a statewide investigation into possible voter registration fraud.

“Police believe there could be hundreds of fraudulent voter registration records with different combinations of made up names and addresses with people’s real information,” NBC 12 reported.

The police encourage victims of suspected voter fraud to report it to Indiana’s secretary of state.

So when Trump wins Indiana, the Democrats will have a legitimate case that it was a fraudulent win?

 

[Tilly]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real

10. Voter registration cards sent to illegals in Pennsylvania.

In September, the secretary of state’s office in Pennsylvania mailed about 2.5 million voter registration postcards to people who are not registered voters, but are licensed drivers. Secretary of State Pedro Cortes admitted to the House of Representatives that seven people had reported that they received voter registration cards in error, self-reporting.

State Rep. Daryl Metcalfe, a Butler County Republican who chairs the State Government Committee, said in September testimony that there’s several problem’s with the state’s voter registration system.

“There’s certainly the potential for hundreds, if not thousands, of foreigners here legally and illegally to be on our voter rolls, and a certain percentage who are casting ballots,” Mr. Metchalfe told LifeZette. “We’ve got a lot of integrity issues that need to be addressed.”

 

[Nosmo King]

Tell ya what, let's require proof of citizenship and proper ID for one election and see what happens to the numbers showing up to vote. Deal?

You mean Republican efforts to disenfranchise legitimate voters?

Tell you what - let's have evidence that it's a serious problem first. The data so far says it isn't, and more to the point if someone was going to throw an election this would be the hardest way to do it - if not impossible.

Do away with absentee ballots except for the military. From what I am reading there is where a huge problem is

Do you want to disenfranchise shut-ins like my Mom, or folks who will be away from home on Election Day like me? Or are you just like nterested in suppressing the vote because you know that's the way Trump might win?

 

[Tilly]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real

6. Indiana voter fraud investigation grows to 56 counties.

According to a local NBC report, Indiana State Police are in the midst of a statewide investigation into possible voter registration fraud.

“Police believe there could be hundreds of fraudulent voter registration records with different combinations of made up names and addresses with people’s real information,” NBC 12 reported.

The police encourage victims of suspected voter fraud to report it to Indiana’s secretary of state.

For there not being voting fraud you sure are posting a lot of links about voting fraud

And the potential for voter fraud is simply huge:

...Research commissioned by the Pew Center on the States highlights the extent of the challenge:1

Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.

More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.

Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.

http://www.pewtrusts.org/~/media/le...ets/2012/pewupgradingvoterregistrationpdf.pdf

 

[Seawytch]

How many verified cases of voter fraud?

Voters First Canvasser Arrested for Submitting Fraudulent Petitions - Media Trackers

Not voting, fail

York: When 1,099 felons vote in race won by 312 ballots

GOP Voter Fraud Hucksters Latest Lie: Felons Made Franken U.S. Senator

Fail

Opposing view: In Texas, evidence of voter fraud abounds

Opinion piece. Fail

Deceased man receiving voter registration card ever year in mail

Registered isn't voting.

Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus | Human Events

Registered isn't voting.

18 Former Acorn Workers Have Been Convicted Or Admitted Guilt In Election Fraud

Registration fraud is not the same as voter fraud


Out of time so I'll leave with this


Baseless viral image about voter fraud makes a comeback

 

[SassyIrishLass]

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real

6. Indiana voter fraud investigation grows to 56 counties.

According to a local NBC report, Indiana State Police are in the midst of a statewide investigation into possible voter registration fraud.

“Police believe there could be hundreds of fraudulent voter registration records with different combinations of made up names and addresses with people’s real information,” NBC 12 reported.

The police encourage victims of suspected voter fraud to report it to Indiana’s secretary of state.

So when Trump wins Indiana, the Democrats will have a legitimate case that it was a fraudulent win?

Indiana isn't so much on Trump it's on the senate seat, close race between Bayh and Young

 

[Coyote]

How many verified cases of voter fraud?

Voters First Canvasser Arrested for Submitting Fraudulent Petitions - Media Trackers

That one isn't voter fraud.

York: When 1,099 felons vote in race won by 312 ballots

That was addressed in one of the links I had as well - felons who thought they were elegible to vote. Not deliberate fraud - but, should have been caught. So, that 1099 cases.

Opposing view: In Texas, evidence of voter fraud abounds

Ok...article claims:

In Texas, evidence of voter fraud abounds. In recent years, my office has secured more than 50 voter fraud convictions. Those include a woman who voted in place of her dead mother, a political operative who cast ballots for two people, and a city councilmember who registered foreign nationals to vote in an election decided by 19 votes. Voter fraud is hard to detect, so cases like these are just the tip of the iceberg.​

Only 50 cases out of thousands of ballots? What kind of fraud?

According to this: Donald Trump claims the election might be 'rigged.' Here's how voting really works

Investigations into voter fraud show it is “extraordinarily rare,” according to a report from the Brennan Center for Justice, which noted, “There are surprisingly few sources recounting specific incidents of alleged voter fraud.”

An investigation into reports of voter fraud after Indiana passed a voter ID law in 2005 showed only nine cases out of 250 in which someone voted using another person’s name, said Justin Levitt, an election law expert who conducted the investigation and was interviewed by the Associated Press.

“They identified a lot of fraud, but very, very, very, very, very, very little of it could be prevented by identification at the polls,” he said.

The instances of fraud identified — including ballot-stuffing or vote buying — would not have been prevented by voter ID, according to Levitt.​

Deceased man receiving voter registration card ever year in mail

And did anyone vote?

Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus | Human Events

The problem here IS actually a problem but not in the way you think and voter ID would likely make no difference. To many municipalities have outdated and inaccurate voter rolls where people that have died or moved have not been taken off. That's not fraud unless someone votes under those names so it's all hypothetical. Has anyone in Ohio done so?

18 Former Acorn Workers Have Been Convicted Or Admitted Guilt In Election Fraud

Again NOT voter fraud - ELECTION fraud - different crime. Voter ID would have no effect here either.

Voter Watchdog Group Says It Found 31 Cases of Absentee Ballot Fraud in Florida, NY: ‘Tip of the Iceberg’

From the article: The group has formally notified the Office of the Florida Secretary of State, the New York State Board of Elections and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) that ballots were cast in both states by 31 people during federal elections, according to a press release.

Ok...a wopping 31 people who presumably had residency in two states and thought they could vote in both. How would voter ID have prevented this?

Scott Gessler voter checks: 44 removed from rolls, four of them Republicans

And no fraud occurred.

Mail-in ballots: the hanging chads of 2012?

This one is a good article that talks about the issue of mail in ballots over all, and potential problems where fraud could occur. Not actual cases of voter fraud.

Update: Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, FL Called into Question - 141% Turnout - Watchdog Wire - Florida

FALSE: 2012 Voter Fraud

Dead And Still Voting

Another case of not having cleaned up the voter rolls not fraud. But have any of them voted?

When you get done with these, let me know, I have a ton more links to share.

Very few of those links are actual cases of voter fraud. Which pretty much supports my point - it's mostly a hypothetical problem.

 

[Coyote]

How many verified cases of voter fraud?

Voters First Canvasser Arrested for Submitting Fraudulent Petitions - Media Trackers

Not voting, fail

York: When 1,099 felons vote in race won by 312 ballots

GOP Voter Fraud Hucksters Latest Lie: Felons Made Franken U.S. Senator

Fail

Opposing view: In Texas, evidence of voter fraud abounds

Opinion piece. Fail

Deceased man receiving voter registration card ever year in mail

Registered isn't voting.

Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus | Human Events

Registered isn't voting.

18 Former Acorn Workers Have Been Convicted Or Admitted Guilt In Election Fraud

Registration fraud is not the same as voter fraud


Out of time so I'll leave with this


Baseless viral image about voter fraud makes a comeback

We were both going down the list at the same time

Great link

 

[g5000]

We have Donald Trump and his zealots already paving the way for allegations of mass fraud and rigged elections.

Based on what evidence? Almost none.

Everytime Trump drops in the polls, he pulls out the fraud card. It's never his own doing -

• the Media is against him (never mind the fact that they never pressed him very hard on his lies);

• the Clintons are rigging it (never mind the fact that there is no evidence of that happening and rigging a national election is next to impossible in this country).

• Voter fraud - this, based on a handful of allegations, a lack of actual evidence, and over the years precious few convictions.

So somehow all this - not the man's character, not his lack of any sort of filter, not his policies or actions - are losing him the election. It's utter madness and logic


Comprehensive 10-Year Voter Fraud Study Found: It’s a GOP Myth

These warnings are not new and not supported by evidence; they defy numerous studies that have found that voter fraud is minimal.

They also invite a question: If the election is rigged, who is doing the rigging?

Presidential elections are conducted on a state-by-state basis, not nationally. And in most of the states seen as presidential battlegrounds, the chief elections officers are Republicans — most directly accountable to their state's voters.

• In Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio and Utah, the chief elections officer of the state is a Republican, elected by voters of the state. Most are secretary of state; Utah’s lieutenant governor oversees elections there.
• In Florida, the secretary of state is appointed by the state’s Republican governor, Rick Scott — a Trump supporter.
• In North Carolina, the state board of elections has five members, appointed by the governor — currently a Republican. Its current chairman and three out of five members are Republicans.

There are states with some measure of Democratic control over the process.

• In Minnesota and Missouri, the chief elections officer is a Democrat elected by the voters of the state.
• Pennsylvania’s secretary of state was appointed by the state’s Democratic governor.
• New Hampshire’s longtime secretary of state was once a Democrat, but was reelected to his post by the Republican-led state legislature.
• Virginia’s Democratic governor, Terry McAuliffe — a longtime Clinton ally — appointed each member of that state’s three-person elections board.

Comprehensive 10-Year Voter Fraud Study Found: It’s a GOP Myth

...The Washington Post’s “Wonkblog” offers a summary of studies and investigations that have examined the issue of voter fraud. These studies have been conducted by academic researchers, news organizations, and state governments. They all produced similar results: The massive “in person” voter fraud that Republicans claim is helping Democrats steal elections simply does not exist.


Out of all of the research cited in the story, the investigations conducted by various states are the most interesting, because they were conducted by states that are currently controlled by Republicans. For example, the Kansas secretary of state took a look at 84 million votes cast in 22 states, trying to find duplicate registrations. The result? They referred 14 cases to prosecutors. Fourteen. Out of 84 million votes.



North Carolina also participated in the multi-state voter “cross check” program. Their survey of 28 states turned up 765 people with the same names, birth dates, and whose Social Security numbers ended with the same four digits, who voted in North Carolina and another state, according to the Charlotte News and Observer. There is no word on how many, if any, of those people will be prosecuted. Even if all 765 were guilty of voter fraud, it is still a tiny percentage of the nearly seven million votes cast in North Carolina in 2012, and certainly not enough to sway the outcome of an election.


Iowa’s Republican secretary of state Matt Schultz spent two years, and over a quarter of a million taxpayer dollars, to find 117 possibly fraudulent votes, leading to only six convictions. Of those who were convicted, three were felons who believed that their right to vote had been restored.


Even though voter fraud does not exist on the level that Republicans claim that it does, there are instances of possible voter fraud in almost every election. Here are a few examples:

• Last year in Virginia, Adam Ward pleaded guilty to faking hundreds of signatures that were needed for Newt Gingrich to be eligible to appear on the state’s primary election ballot.
• In 2012, Charlie White, Indiana’s Republican secretary of state was convicted of six felony counts of voter fraud.
• Also in 2012, four staffers of Michigan Republican congressman Thaddeus McCotter were found guilty of forging over 1500 signatures in an attempt to qualify the congressman for the ballot.
• Wisconsin Tea Partier and Scott Walker supporter Robert Monroe has been charged with casting multiple ballots in several elections.

NO ONE claims it doesn't occur (despite misleading claims by some) - but it's very uncommon. Why is it uncommon? It's not a very successful way of throwing an election. People will always find examples to throw in as "proof" but so what? A handful out of millions of votes? And that is sufficient excuse to try and undermine our entire electoral integrity with this infectious madness?

Hell, the Democrats could have flown that flag with Gore vs Bush, called for violence and armed poll watchers. But this madness is new and the source is Trump. Everyone is "against him" - everyone is "biased" - the Dems, the media, the Republican establishment. Maybe it's not "Them" - maybe it's Trump himself who causing people to turn away. Ever think of that?

Your post is, what, two or three hundred words? You can be absolutely sure the tards didn't read it.

Here is what they heard you say: "There is no voter fraud."

I guarantee you, that is exactly what the delusional dumb fucks heard you say.

 

[OKTexas]

Here's an interesting comparison....brought about by the school shooting analogy earlier.

Voting is a right.
So is gun ownership.

Think about that in terms of adding layers of laws that restrict those rights.

We have layers of laws related to guns, including background checks to verify eligibility, why not for voting?