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No. Being responsible for ones own health care means that you pay for it yourself without government intrusion into your life.
In theory yes but that does not always work in the real world.
You have a job and good insurance. You lose your job and your insurance. You cannot afford paying for insurance while not employed.
You have a heart attack and run up $300,000 in bills.
Who pays for it?
You make arrangements to pay it over time.
Actually that is not a 'conservative code'."Taking responsibility for his own situation" in the context of health insurance, is conservative code for: "I've got mine. Screw you."
The truth is, I don't give a fuck if you die.
Or get sick.
Or can't pay for it.
I am not your keeper, nor am i responsible for your problems.
The trouble with you big government stooges is you think everyone is responsible for other people, to the point of being forced to do it. I don't think so, neither did the founders of this nation.
Nobody stops you all from getting together, pooling your money and helping whomever you please.
The problem is, you yokels use the system created to run the nation to feed your lame assed Robinhood fantasies and make everyone else pay for things they don't want and don't agree too.
And I am not a 'conservative' and care nothing for such labels anyway.
And yet every one of the orgs I mentioned did a fine job in the late 19th and early 20th century covering all of those problems and more.
Why are these institutions so strapped? Can it be that high taxation has left them with less money? Could this be part of the overall bureaucratic plan, to cut out alternatives to big government? I don't know but it wouldn't suprise me.
I know of several times that neighborhood orgs, churches and charities have covered some or all of a medical expense or other disaster-related cost for someone. It happens all the time.
Spare us the lame assed argument of basic services we agree to vs social injustice nonsense, that red herring fools nobody so stop the bullshit.Actually that is not a 'conservative code'."Taking responsibility for his own situation" in the context of health insurance, is conservative code for: "I've got mine. Screw you."
The truth is, I don't give a fuck if you die.
Or get sick.
Or can't pay for it.
I am not your keeper, nor am i responsible for your problems.
The trouble with you big government stooges is you think everyone is responsible for other people, to the point of being forced to do it. I don't think so, neither did the founders of this nation.
Nobody stops you all from getting together, pooling your money and helping whomever you please.
The problem is, you yokels use the system created to run the nation to feed your lame assed Robinhood fantasies and make everyone else pay for things they don't want and don't agree too.
And I am not a 'conservative' and care nothing for such labels anyway.
If the government did not provide sewers people would start crapping all over your yard and it would become your business.
You would have to make decisions. Do you start shooting everyone who craps on my yard, do you clean up the crap or do you agree to pay some taxes so you and everyone else does not have to crap on your yard.
The point is:
At the end of the day what others do will affect you. As a human it is impossible to be an isolationist in the 21st century in the USA.
Requiring health insurance forces people to be responsible for their own health care. ...
I wonder if anyone else has spotted the odd disparity between this post, and the sig line of the poster?
"Taking responsibility for his own situation" in the context of health insurance, is conservative code for: "I've got mine. Screw you."
So what?
You mean "so what if it isn't true?" So what if I am making it up? So what if I am totally wrong and have boiled eggs for brains?
Nothing.
But Costanza is substituting stereotype for argumentation. The truth is that Democrats are the ones who have theirs, everyone else fuck off.
The Dems in Congress voted several times to exempt themselves from the bill's requirements. This is because they are
The Party of Fuck You!
Actually that is not a 'conservative code'."Taking responsibility for his own situation" in the context of health insurance, is conservative code for: "I've got mine. Screw you."
The truth is, I don't give a fuck if you die.
Or get sick.
Or can't pay for it.
I am not your keeper, nor am i responsible for your problems.
The trouble with you big government stooges is you think everyone is responsible for other people, to the point of being forced to do it. I don't think so, neither did the founders of this nation.
Nobody stops you all from getting together, pooling your money and helping whomever you please.
The problem is, you yokels use the system created to run the nation to feed your lame assed Robinhood fantasies and make everyone else pay for things they don't want and don't agree too.
And I am not a 'conservative' and care nothing for such labels anyway.
If the government did not provide sewers people would start crapping all over your yard and it would become your business.
You would have to make decisions. Do you start shooting everyone who craps on my yard, do you clean up the crap or do you agree to pay some taxes so you and everyone else does not have to crap on your yard.
The point is:
At the end of the day what others do will affect you. As a human it is impossible to be an isolationist in the 21st century in the USA.
I believe you have no idea what "conservative" means.
A conservative takes responsibility for his own situation. He does not presume to know what is best for everyone else.
In theory that sounds good.
In the real world it does not work.
Your neighbor chooses not to buy healthcare. He has a heart attack. He rund up $300,000 in bills. He has no savings.
Who pays for it?
Private foundations.
The hospital absorbs the loss
His relatives
His neighbors
His church
This is the issue. To big government types the only and universal solution is more big government. There are no mechanisms outside of government that are capable of dealing with these issues, despite the fact that they did just fine before big government got into the act.
In any case, unreimbursed health care expenses are a very small part of the problem in health care.
Conservatives should refuse to use public highways, police, fire departments, right?
Leftists should refuse to bring up the fucking roads and cops in every goddamned discussion about their obsessive need to play Mommy for the whole world, particularly those leftists who get told five or six times every single day (that would be you, Mensa Boy) that limited government isn't the same as no government, community concerns are not the same as micromanaging personal lives, and your personal frigging healthcare is NOT A COMMUNITY CONCERN, if only because increasing numbers of the community feel they would be benefited by you dropping off the face of the Earth every time you start flapping your gums.
What precisely do we have to do to get this message through that granite boulder on your neck that you call a head, so that you stop sounding like an Alzheimer's patient, having the exact same conversation every five minutes?
Requiring health insurance forces people to be responsible for their own health care.
If someone does not have health insurance the rest of us pay their bills. We pay their bills through health care providers increasing the costs to those who can pay. Many times the government pays the bill of those who do not pay using our tax dollars.
People who choose not to have health care insurance cannot choose not to get sick.
If an individual does not have health care coverage the rest of us will end up paying their costs one way or another.
To enforce personal accountability for health care costs we have two choices.
1. Mandate health care insurance
2. Do not treat individuals who cannot pay.
I believe in personal accountability and I believe in option 1 to make people accountable. for their health care.
Actually that is not a 'conservative code'.
The truth is, I don't give a fuck if you die.
Or get sick.
Or can't pay for it.
I am not your keeper, nor am i responsible for your problems.
The trouble with you big government stooges is you think everyone is responsible for other people, to the point of being forced to do it. I don't think so, neither did the founders of this nation.
Nobody stops you all from getting together, pooling your money and helping whomever you please.
The problem is, you yokels use the system created to run the nation to feed your lame assed Robinhood fantasies and make everyone else pay for things they don't want and don't agree too.
And I am not a 'conservative' and care nothing for such labels anyway.
If the government did not provide sewers people would start crapping all over your yard and it would become your business.
You would have to make decisions. Do you start shooting everyone who craps on my yard, do you clean up the crap or do you agree to pay some taxes so you and everyone else does not have to crap on your yard.
The point is:
At the end of the day what others do will affect you. As a human it is impossible to be an isolationist in the 21st century in the USA.
And there we have demonstrated the basic leftist inability to differentiate between "running the system" and "lame-assed Robin Hood fantasies". The only way in which your desire to charge everyone else for your health care resembles community sewage provisions would be the smell.
Spare us the lame assed argument of basic services we agree to vs social injustice nonsense, that red herring fools nobody so stop the bullshit.Actually that is not a 'conservative code'.
The truth is, I don't give a fuck if you die.
Or get sick.
Or can't pay for it.
I am not your keeper, nor am i responsible for your problems.
The trouble with you big government stooges is you think everyone is responsible for other people, to the point of being forced to do it. I don't think so, neither did the founders of this nation.
Nobody stops you all from getting together, pooling your money and helping whomever you please.
The problem is, you yokels use the system created to run the nation to feed your lame assed Robinhood fantasies and make everyone else pay for things they don't want and don't agree too.
And I am not a 'conservative' and care nothing for such labels anyway.
If the government did not provide sewers people would start crapping all over your yard and it would become your business.
You would have to make decisions. Do you start shooting everyone who craps on my yard, do you clean up the crap or do you agree to pay some taxes so you and everyone else does not have to crap on your yard.
The point is:
At the end of the day what others do will affect you. As a human it is impossible to be an isolationist in the 21st century in the USA.
If the government did not provide sewers people would start crapping all over your yard and it would become your business.
You would have to make decisions. Do you start shooting everyone who craps on my yard, do you clean up the crap or do you agree to pay some taxes so you and everyone else does not have to crap on your yard.
The point is:
At the end of the day what others do will affect you. As a human it is impossible to be an isolationist in the 21st century in the USA.
And there we have demonstrated the basic leftist inability to differentiate between "running the system" and "lame-assed Robin Hood fantasies". The only way in which your desire to charge everyone else for your health care resembles community sewage provisions would be the smell.
What do you think is happening now when the uninsured need healthcare? We all pay for it through our taxes reimbursing hospitals and healthcare providers or through higher healtcare costs to cover those who do not pay.
Our society will not turn away people who need healthcare.
We are already paying for the healthcare for those who cannot afford it. The current program is trying to fix the broken system.
You are one of those who said do nothing while we are being milked by those who cannot afford healthcare and the insurance companies.
Are you so dumb you do not realize what is going on.
And there we have demonstrated the basic leftist inability to differentiate between "running the system" and "lame-assed Robin Hood fantasies". The only way in which your desire to charge everyone else for your health care resembles community sewage provisions would be the smell.
What do you think is happening now when the uninsured need healthcare? We all pay for it through our taxes reimbursing hospitals and healthcare providers or through higher healtcare costs to cover those who do not pay.
Our society will not turn away people who need healthcare.
We are already paying for the healthcare for those who cannot afford it. The current program is trying to fix the broken system.
You are one of those who said do nothing while we are being milked by those who cannot afford healthcare and the insurance companies.
Are you so dumb you do not realize what is going on.
What the fuckin HELL do you think the healthcare bill is? And YOU applaud it at the point of a gun if people elect OUT? Refuse and Jail time?
s0n? YOU have alot of thinking to do.
I would be OK with you not signing up if you sign a contract saying If I do not have insurance or funds do not treat me.
If you choose to live in a city you pay that sewer cost that the city provides. You should be free to shit in your own yard as long as the smell of your shit does not infect the air of your neighbors yards. Don't expect someone else to pay for your tie in cost to city sewer. You have options you can pay for tie ins to city sewer or you build your own septic system. See how that works.If the government did not provide sewers people would start crapping all over your yard and it would become your business.
You would have to make decisions. Do you start shooting everyone who craps on my yard, do you clean up the crap or do you agree to pay some taxes so you and everyone else does not have to crap on your yard.
The point is:
At the end of the day what others do will affect you. As a human it is impossible to be an isolationist in the 21st century in the USA.
In theory that sounds good.
In the real world it does not work.
Your neighbor chooses not to buy healthcare. He has a heart attack. He rund up $300,000 in bills. He has no savings.
Who pays for it?
Private foundations.
The hospital absorbs the loss
His relatives
His neighbors
His church
This is the issue. To big government types the only and universal solution is more big government. There are no mechanisms outside of government that are capable of dealing with these issues, despite the fact that they did just fine before big government got into the act.
In any case, unreimbursed health care expenses are a very small part of the problem in health care.
And what I highlighted do so because they are geared for it and do so willingly. To foist this on the people whom have other ideas on how to spend their hard-earned money is Servitude at the point of a GUN courtesy of the Government.
That isn't Liberty. It's Tyranny in a basic form. It flies in the Face of what the Founders legacy. it's high time people start learning this basic precept.
What do you think is happening now when the uninsured need healthcare? We all pay for it through our taxes reimbursing hospitals and healthcare providers or through higher healtcare costs to cover those who do not pay.
Our society will not turn away people who need healthcare.
We are already paying for the healthcare for those who cannot afford it. The current program is trying to fix the broken system.
You are one of those who said do nothing while we are being milked by those who cannot afford healthcare and the insurance companies.
Are you so dumb you do not realize what is going on.
What the fuckin HELL do you think the healthcare bill is? And YOU applaud it at the point of a gun if people elect OUT? Refuse and Jail time?
s0n? YOU have alot of thinking to do.
If you elect out we will end up paying for your sorry ass. You elect out and cannot pay your biill the taxpayer have to bail you out.
I would be OK with you not signing up if you sign a contract saying If I do not have insurance or funds do not treat me.
Spare us the lame assed argument of basic services we agree to vs social injustice nonsense, that red herring fools nobody so stop the bullshit.If the government did not provide sewers people would start crapping all over your yard and it would become your business.
You would have to make decisions. Do you start shooting everyone who craps on my yard, do you clean up the crap or do you agree to pay some taxes so you and everyone else does not have to crap on your yard.
The point is:
At the end of the day what others do will affect you. As a human it is impossible to be an isolationist in the 21st century in the USA.
I find healthcare more important than sewers and roads. If you are dead you tend not to crap or drive as much.
I believe in the free market but it does not work for healtcare. In the free market you eliminate risk and increase profits. With healtcare that does not work.
Nobody stops you all from getting together, pooling your money and helping whomever you please.
Spare us the lame assed argument of basic services we agree to vs social injustice nonsense, that red herring fools nobody so stop the bullshit.
I find healthcare more important than sewers and roads. If you are dead you tend not to crap or drive as much.
I believe in the free market but it does not work for healtcare. In the free market you eliminate risk and increase profits. With healtcare that does not work.
You are an idiot. Without proper sanitation you have cities full of diseased people. Commerce is dead without adequate roads. The free market works fine with health care regardless of the push you and your cohorts are willing to force on everyone else in order to line the pockets of again a few who believe they have the right to deny others freedom of choice.
