Republicans should use the Nuclear Option and pass voter id requirements .

[Lesh]

Well? Where did the Dems use the nuclear option?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

in 2013 ..

That was not for a funding bill. That rule stayed and was even expanded by the Republicans.

 

[Lesh]

in 2013 ..

For judicial appointments?

That’s not what we are talking about

 

[yidnar]

Well? Where did the Dems use the nuclear option?

in the Senate ..

 

[yidnar]

That was not for a funding bill. That rule stayed and was even expanded by the Republicans.

they used it regardless ...

 

[candycorn]

How come Kumalot couldn't win a single state with a voter ID law?

Every state has a voter ID law.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

they used it regardless ...

Not for a funding bill they didn't. The Republicans didn't object and kept the rule when they got control again. The Dems will do the same this time if the Republicans change it.

 

[BackAgain]

Every state has a voter ID law.

That’s flatly false.

 

[tshrimp]

A colossal 83% of US adults support requiring some form of government-issued photo ID to vote, including 71% of Democrats and 95% of Republicans.

Nice to see only 29% of Democrats and 5% of Republicans want the ability to cheat. I actually thought the dem side would be larger so pleasantly surprised, but republican side about what I expected.

 

[tshrimp]

Every state has a voter ID law.

LOL. Well, to need a photo ID, No-Photo ID, or no ID at all I guess you would be right.

Voter identification laws by state

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

 

[candycorn]

That’s flatly false.

Nope; flatly true. You have to produce an ID to register in one way or the other....

 

[candycorn]

LOL. Well, to need a photo ID, No-Photo ID, or no ID at all I guess you would be right.

Voter identification laws by state

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

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Yes, those blue states are where you show an ID before you cast a ballot.

To get on the voter roll however, you need to prove you're a citizen through various means. So yes...you have to prove you're a citizen to vote. That is the end of the story.

This is the bedrock lie the right wing keeps telling...that anyone can wander into any polling place and just vote as much as they like.

Will you admit that this is NOT the case? Of course you won't.

Will you also admit that (theorhetically), the right wing loons will then move to say that ID's are fake when they lose an election?

8,000 (give or take) candidates lost in 2020 including candidates for US Senate, the US House, state senates, state legislatures, mayors, governors, judgeships, city council slots, city managers, county constables, county judges, county clerks, various offices of commissioners, attorneys general, school boards, sheriffs, dog catchers etc... All of those losers of those elections were on one ballot. The same one that Trump was on. Somehow the only person who says they were defrauded was Trump. And for some reason, instead of listening to the 7,999 losers, you listen to the one guy who whines?

 

[tshrimp]

Yes, those blue states are where you show an ID before you cast a ballot.

To get on the voter roll however, you need to prove you're a citizen through various means. So yes...you have to prove you're a citizen to vote. That is the end of the story.

This is the bedrock lie the right wing keeps telling...that anyone can wander into any polling place and just vote as much as they like.

Will you admit that this is NOT the case? Of course you won't.

Will you also admit that (theorhetically), the right wing loons will then move to say that ID's are fake when they lose an election?

8,000 (give or take) candidates lost in 2020 including candidates for US Senate, the US House, state senates, state legislatures, mayors, governors, judgeships, city council slots, city managers, county constables, county judges, county clerks, various offices of commissioners, attorneys general, school boards, sheriffs, dog catchers etc... All of those losers of those elections were on one ballot. The same one that Trump was on. Somehow the only person who says they were defrauded was Trump. And for some reason, instead of listening to the 7,999 losers, you listen to the one guy who whines?

Will you admit 29% of the left, including yourself, don't want Photo Voter IDs so it is easier to cheat (We know the truth rather you admit it or not). BTW...the state I am in did not always require an ID to vote, and I did have someone vote as me in a midterm. Losing my right to vote was a bit disheartening.

 

[candycorn]

Will you admit 29% of the left, including yourself, don't want Photo Voter IDs so it is easier to cheat (We know the truth rather you admit it or not).

You can look at my posting history to see how I feel about it.

As for the "cheating"....don't you think it's rather ridiculous to argue--as you are now doing--that every 2 years or so, the democrats miraculously somehow forget how to cheat and lose large swaths of seats in states and the federal government?

BTW...the state I am in did not always require an ID to vote, and I did have someone vote as me in a midterm. Losing my right to vote was a bit disheartening.

What did the police say when you called them? It would be really easy to catch the guy who did it....they had to sign in, cameras in the gym or wherever, etc.... And you did cast a provisional ballot right?

 

[candycorn]

Nice to see only 29% of Democrats and 5% of Republicans want the ability to cheat. I actually thought the dem side would be larger so pleasantly surprised, but republican side about what I expected.

Why do you think verifiable voter fraud is so rare?

Certainly you're not going to argue that its widespread...since there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud in US elections....

So again, if it's so easy, why is it so rare?

 

[tshrimp]

You can look at my posting history to see how I feel about it.

As for the "cheating"....don't you think it's rather ridiculous to argue--as you are now doing--that every 2 years or so, the democrats miraculously somehow forget how to cheat and lose large swaths of seats in states and the federal government?



What did the police say when you called them? It would be really easy to catch the guy who did it....they had to sign in, cameras in the gym or wherever, etc.... And you did cast a provisional ballot right?

Not ridiculous at all to argue. We all know that dead people vote. We see it every election and they overwhelmingly vote for the dems. It might affect some elections and others not so much, but one fake vote is too many and the "but it isn't a large swath" isn't an argument to not have Photo ID requirements.

As for my intendent, there were no cameras. Even if there were, it would have been very difficult for it to capture. You flipped through a book, found your name, signed next to it, and got a ballot. No way to prove it since no IDs needed to be shown, so calling the police would have been a waste.

I hope the left continues to try and fight against this. As we can see over 70% of dems know it is a good idea and upsetting those people just gives them yet another reason to vote differently, or at least question their party affiliation.

 

[tshrimp]

Why do you think verifiable voter fraud is so rare?

Certainly you're not going to argue that its widespread...since there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud in US elections....

So again, if it's so easy, why is it so rare?

Even if breaking and entering wasn't widespread doesn't mean you ignore it. However, it is very hard to catch voter fraud, so the best way is to head it off before it can actually happens.

 

[candycorn]

Not ridiculous at all to argue. We all know that dead people vote. We see it every election and they overwhelmingly vote for the dems. It might affect some elections and others not so much, but one fake vote is too many and the "but it isn't a large swath" isn't an argument to not have Photo ID requirements.

Do you really think you'll eliminate any "fake" votes?

As for my intendent, there were no cameras.

Of course!

Even if there were, it would have been very difficult for it to capture.

Surely!

You flipped through a book, found your name, signed next to it, and got a ballot. No way to prove it since no IDs needed to be shown, so calling the police would have been a waste.

Gee...nobody saw that argument coming.

Just admit it...it never happened. You guys....always do this shit.

 

[candycorn]

Even if breaking and entering wasn't widespread doesn't mean you ignore it.

No you call the police...oh wait...you probably wouldn't call the police for that either, would you?

However, it is very hard to catch voter fraud,

No it's not...it's pretty easy to catch since so few people do it and those who do try it get caught.

so the best way is to head it off before it can actually happens.

They tightened voter registration in numerous states, got rid of drop boxes, polling places, etc...

And here you are still bitching and moaning about non-existent voter fraud. And when it allegedly did happen to you...you admitted you did nothing about it; you didn't even call the police.

No amount of remedy would remotely make you get rid of the one thing all Trump supporters crave...a reason to be pissed off and an unprovable "injustice" to ***** about.

 

[tshrimp]

Do you really think you'll eliminate any "fake" votes?

Of course!

Surely!

Gee...nobody saw that argument coming.

Just admit it...it never happened. You guys....always do this shit.

Oh no, a random guy on the internet doesn't believe me. What will I ever do?