Republicans have no understanding of real policy ideas. Democrats do.

[Billy000]

When I say choice in policy, I mean the difference in numbers of policy positions.

Democrats push for:

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges
2) Making healthcare more affordable
3) Raising the minimum wage
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change
5) Keeping big money out of politics
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy)
7) Tax cuts for the middle class
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit
10) LGBT rights advocacy
11) Feminist issues
12) Making college more affordable
13) Targeting Wall Street crime
14) Gun control

The list doesn't even stop there. There's even more ideas than that.

Now let's examine republican policy

1) Giving tax breaks to the top earners (which ONLY helps them)
2) Deregulation
3) Limiting LGBT rights
4) Limiting women's right
5) No to ObamaCare
6) Getting rid of porn(RNC), sex toys (Ted Cruz)

Okay that's 14 to 6 in the number of policy ideas. Now keep in mind that 5 of those republican policies are not pro-active ideas. They are just policies that say "No" to something rather than policies expressing new solutions.

You can hate the democratic ideas all you want, but at least they are proactive ideas that outnumber the list in the republican platform.

Once again we must ask: why would anyone not in the 1% vote republican?

^^ This shit is why no one can take liberals seriously.

I think you know I'm right but won't admit it.

 

[Norman]

When I say choice in policy, I mean the difference in numbers of policy positions.

Democrats push for:

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges
2) Making healthcare more affordable
3) Raising the minimum wage
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change
5) Keeping big money out of politics
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy)
7) Tax cuts for the middle class
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit
10) LGBT rights advocacy
11) Feminist issues
12) Making college more affordable
13) Targeting Wall Street crime
14) Gun control

The list doesn't even stop there. There's even more ideas than that.

Now let's examine republican policy

1) Giving tax breaks to the top earners (which ONLY helps them)
2) Deregulation
3) Limiting LGBT rights
4) Limiting women's right
5) No to ObamaCare
6) Getting rid of porn(RNC), sex toys (Ted Cruz)

Okay that's 14 to 6 in the number of policy ideas. Now keep in mind that 5 of those republican policies are not pro-active ideas. They are just policies that say "No" to something rather than policies expressing new solutions.

You can hate the democratic ideas all you want, but at least they are proactive ideas that outnumber the list in the republican platform.

Once again we must ask: why would anyone not in the 1% vote republican?

^^ This shit is why no one can take liberals seriously.

I think you know I'm right but won't admit it.

I know that you are not even wrong. You haven't even reached that level yet.

 

[Spare_change]

Are you saying all Democrats support those policies listed? Or just Hillary's promises?

I'm saying democratic leaders push those ideas.

Single question ----- how do you (the collective you - I know how democrats love the word 'collective') propose to pay for that list?

Answer that for each item - and we'll talk.

It's interesting how you ask that when you know any spending program proposed by republcans is NEVER paid for. Cutting defense spending could easily pay for most of those. Closing tax loopholes taken advantage by corporations would pay for a lot as well. 2/3 of all corporations pay no federal income taxes because of loopholes. That essentially makes the official rate of 35% a complete joke. It's the EFFECTIVE tax rate that matters.

So, your only answer is to steal money from retirement plans and old people to pay for your largesse.

Sounds like pretty much what I suspected.

Ok so since you like to think you're this totally self-sufficient, manly conservative, does that mean you always feel shitty when you drive on public roads? No of course you don't. You don't even understand what government spending actually entails. In your Fox News world, "government spending" is dirty, evil socialism! It must be destroyed!

Now, tell me --- why would I feel "shitty" for driving on public roads? You know, the ones I pay for ... those roads. Where do you think the government gets its money? From me! So, just send me a thank you note and I'll let you continue to use MY roads.

 

[Billy000]

I'm saying democratic leaders push those ideas.

Single question ----- how do you (the collective you - I know how democrats love the word 'collective') propose to pay for that list?

Answer that for each item - and we'll talk.

It's interesting how you ask that when you know any spending program proposed by republcans is NEVER paid for. Cutting defense spending could easily pay for most of those. Closing tax loopholes taken advantage by corporations would pay for a lot as well. 2/3 of all corporations pay no federal income taxes because of loopholes. That essentially makes the official rate of 35% a complete joke. It's the EFFECTIVE tax rate that matters.

So, your only answer is to steal money from retirement plans and old people to pay for your largesse.

Sounds like pretty much what I suspected.

Ok so since you like to think you're this totally self-sufficient, manly conservative, does that mean you always feel shitty when you drive on public roads? No of course you don't. You don't even understand what government spending actually entails. In your Fox News world, "government spending" is dirty, evil socialism! It must be destroyed!

Now, tell me --- why would I feel "shitty" for driving on public roads? You know, the ones I pay for ... those roads. Where do you think the government gets its money? From me! So, just send me a thank you note and I'll let you continue to use MY roads.

Christ, dude that's the point I'm trying to make to you. Revenue pays for government spending. It doesn't always, of course, but when it's sufficient, shit gets paid for. That's why tax cuts are so irresponsible. They are what adds to the deficit/debt. The reason why we raise taxes is partially because of inflation. Costs go up so must revenue.

 

[Spare_change]

It's interesting how you ask that when you know any spending program proposed by republcans is NEVER paid for. Cutting defense spending could easily pay for most of those. Closing tax loopholes taken advantage by corporations would pay for a lot as well. 2/3 of all corporations pay no federal income taxes because of loopholes. That essentially makes the official rate of 35% a complete joke. It's the EFFECTIVE tax rate that matters.

2/3rds of all US corporations pay no Federal income taxes? Really, Billy? I'd like to see a link on that glaring overstatement!

Ah facts. Too easy of a tool to reduce you asshats to rubble.

Corporate Income Tax: Most Large Profitable U.S. Corporations Paid Tax but Effective Tax Rates Differed Significantly from the Statutory Rate

In each year from 2006 to 2012, at least two-thirds of all active corporations had no federal income tax liability. Larger corporations were more likely to owe tax. Among large corporations (generally those with at least $10 million in assets) less than half—42.3 percent—paid no federal income tax in 2012. Of those large corporations whose financial statements reported a profit, 19.5 percent paid no federal income tax that year. Reasons why even profitable corporations may have paid no federal tax in a given year include the use of tax deductions for losses carried forward from prior years and tax incentives, such as depreciation allowances that are more generous in the federal tax code than those allowed for financial accounting purposes. Corporations that did have a federal corporate income tax liability for tax year 2012 owed $267.5 billion.

And yet they still outsource jobs and bring in cheap labor. Along with buying out all the small competition!

No wonder our middle class is dying.

So, ask yourself ...

WHY do they outsource jobs or bring in cheap labor?

because they're greedy...A higher profit margin. Same as why they buy out all the small competition and offshore. It isn't like they have too but they do so because they're greedy.

... and your point is? Why do you go to the gas station at the local Sam's Club instead of buying it at the station right down the street? Because you're greedy --- you'd rather give money to a corporation than pay an extra nickel a gallon to the small business on your own block.

Your argument is, simply, bullshit. How much money is in your 401(k)? Do you have insurance? Did you borrow money to buy your house? How much bread can you buy with your paycheck?

Every one of those is the DIRECT result of a company trying to maximize its product, and its profit.

Frankly, you're hypocritical. You want to force corporations to do what you should be doing for yourself - but are, simply, too damn lazy. Corporations exist for ONE reason only ---- to maximize the return on investment of its stock holders and owners. That's what we pay them to do .... if you tell me your company is investing 20% in charity (and that IS what you are proposing), they aren't going to get my investment dollars.

Get over it - grow up - and take responsibility for yourself.

 

[Spare_change]

Single question ----- how do you (the collective you - I know how democrats love the word 'collective') propose to pay for that list?

Answer that for each item - and we'll talk.

It's interesting how you ask that when you know any spending program proposed by republcans is NEVER paid for. Cutting defense spending could easily pay for most of those. Closing tax loopholes taken advantage by corporations would pay for a lot as well. 2/3 of all corporations pay no federal income taxes because of loopholes. That essentially makes the official rate of 35% a complete joke. It's the EFFECTIVE tax rate that matters.

So, your only answer is to steal money from retirement plans and old people to pay for your largesse.

Sounds like pretty much what I suspected.

Ok so since you like to think you're this totally self-sufficient, manly conservative, does that mean you always feel shitty when you drive on public roads? No of course you don't. You don't even understand what government spending actually entails. In your Fox News world, "government spending" is dirty, evil socialism! It must be destroyed!

Now, tell me --- why would I feel "shitty" for driving on public roads? You know, the ones I pay for ... those roads. Where do you think the government gets its money? From me! So, just send me a thank you note and I'll let you continue to use MY roads.

Christ, dude that's the point I'm trying to make to you. Revenue pays for government spending. It doesn't always, of course, but when it's sufficient, shit gets paid for. That's why tax cuts are so irresponsible. They are what adds to the deficit/debt. The reason why we raise taxes is partially because of inflation. Costs go up so must revenue.

Your argument is cute, but faulty. You automatically assume that "government spending" is a good thing .... once again, there is no such thing as ":government spending". There is only money taken from the people, with their permission (most of the time), and redistributed in accordance with the wishes of those very same people.

Tax cuts are NOT irresponsible - as long as one single dollar goes to anything other than what the people direct. Issuing condoms to prostitutes in Thailand is a waste of my money. Studying the social impact among pigs of weight is a waste of my money.. Go look at where your "government spending" goes - 2016 Congressional Pig Book | Citizens Against Government Waste

Until you have cut government spending to the absolute minimum necessary to do those activities the people have assigned it, cutting taxes is the only way to prevent/stop/eliminate the fiefdoms of Washington.

 

[Spare_change]

A very impressive list of the standard liberal talking points.

Kinda reminds me of a mud puddle .... kinda yucky and not very deep.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The truth of the matter must be that republican voters have no earthly understanding what they are voting for.

Your fourteen points in your OP are horsecrap.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Single question ----- how do you (the collective you - I know how democrats love the word 'collective') propose to pay for that list?

Answer that for each item - and we'll talk.

It's interesting how you ask that when you know any spending program proposed by republcans is NEVER paid for. Cutting defense spending could easily pay for most of those. Closing tax loopholes taken advantage by corporations would pay for a lot as well. 2/3 of all corporations pay no federal income taxes because of loopholes. That essentially makes the official rate of 35% a complete joke. It's the EFFECTIVE tax rate that matters.

So, your only answer is to steal money from retirement plans and old people to pay for your largesse.

Sounds like pretty much what I suspected.

Ok so since you like to think you're this totally self-sufficient, manly conservative, does that mean you always feel shitty when you drive on public roads? No of course you don't. You don't even understand what government spending actually entails. In your Fox News world, "government spending" is dirty, evil socialism! It must be destroyed!

Now, tell me --- why would I feel "shitty" for driving on public roads? You know, the ones I pay for ... those roads. Where do you think the government gets its money? From me! So, just send me a thank you note and I'll let you continue to use MY roads.

Christ, dude that's the point I'm trying to make to you. Revenue pays for government spending. It doesn't always, of course, but when it's sufficient, shit gets paid for. That's why tax cuts are so irresponsible. They are what adds to the deficit/debt. The reason why we raise taxes is partially because of inflation. Costs go up so must revenue.

That makes a lot of sense.

If collect enough...we have enough.

Really ?

What about the statistics that show for every dollar the government collects it's spending more than a dollar.

Oh wait....20 trillion in debt...who cares ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Paying for college isn't a policy choice.

Your moron friend Matthew is a classic example of college dollars gone to waste.

Paying for college is an idealistic notion that has no foundation in reality.

We already have lots of college grads who are working at Burger King.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Please tell me how democrats made health care more affordable.

We are spending just as much as before....answer that.

Next, they wiped out catastrophic insurance the was extremely affordable and replaced it with these stupid overly expensive bronze plans.

So you fail on that one Billy00000000000000000000000000000000000.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

When I say choice in policy, I mean the difference in numbers of policy positions.

Democrats push for:

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges
2) Making healthcare more affordable
3) Raising the minimum wage
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change
5) Keeping big money out of politics
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy)
7) Tax cuts for the middle class
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit
10) LGBT rights advocacy
11) Feminist issues
12) Making college more affordable
13) Targeting Wall Street crime
14) Gun control

The list doesn't even stop there. There's even more ideas than that.

Now let's examine republican policy

1) Giving tax breaks to the top earners (which ONLY helps them)
2) Deregulation
3) Limiting LGBT rights
4) Limiting women's right
5) No to ObamaCare
6) Getting rid of porn(RNC), sex toys (Ted Cruz)

Okay that's 14 to 6 in the number of policy ideas. Now keep in mind that 5 of those republican policies are not pro-active ideas. They are just policies that say "No" to something rather than policies expressing new solutions.

You can hate the democratic ideas all you want, but at least they are proactive ideas that outnumber the list in the republican platform.

Once again we must ask: why would anyone not in the 1% vote republican?

Extending the eligibiliyt of overtime.

Government telling business how to run business.

Just wonderful.

That is the policy of being STUPID.

 

[Billy000]

It's interesting how you ask that when you know any spending program proposed by republcans is NEVER paid for. Cutting defense spending could easily pay for most of those. Closing tax loopholes taken advantage by corporations would pay for a lot as well. 2/3 of all corporations pay no federal income taxes because of loopholes. That essentially makes the official rate of 35% a complete joke. It's the EFFECTIVE tax rate that matters.

So, your only answer is to steal money from retirement plans and old people to pay for your largesse.

Sounds like pretty much what I suspected.

Ok so since you like to think you're this totally self-sufficient, manly conservative, does that mean you always feel shitty when you drive on public roads? No of course you don't. You don't even understand what government spending actually entails. In your Fox News world, "government spending" is dirty, evil socialism! It must be destroyed!

Now, tell me --- why would I feel "shitty" for driving on public roads? You know, the ones I pay for ... those roads. Where do you think the government gets its money? From me! So, just send me a thank you note and I'll let you continue to use MY roads.

Christ, dude that's the point I'm trying to make to you. Revenue pays for government spending. It doesn't always, of course, but when it's sufficient, shit gets paid for. That's why tax cuts are so irresponsible. They are what adds to the deficit/debt. The reason why we raise taxes is partially because of inflation. Costs go up so must revenue.

Your argument is cute, but faulty. You automatically assume that "government spending" is a good thing .... once again, there is no such thing as ":government spending". There is only money taken from the people, with their permission (most of the time), and redistributed in accordance with the wishes of those very same people.

Tax cuts are NOT irresponsible - as long as one single dollar goes to anything other than what the people direct. Issuing condoms to prostitutes in Thailand is a waste of my money. Studying the social impact among pigs of weight is a waste of my money.. Go look at where your "government spending" goes - 2016 Congressional Pig Book | Citizens Against Government Waste

Until you have cut government spending to the absolute minimum necessary to do those activities the people have assigned it, cutting taxes is the only way to prevent/stop/eliminate the fiefdoms of Washington.

What's sad about this is that you don't even understand actual government waste. Our science budget is minuscule to the waste we create in our defense budget. Sure I'm all about representation, but it's the foreign aid and defense we spend that's waste. You can blame republicans for that.

 

[Oldstyle]

2/3rds of all US corporations pay no Federal income taxes? Really, Billy? I'd like to see a link on that glaring overstatement!

Ah facts. Too easy of a tool to reduce you asshats to rubble.

Corporate Income Tax: Most Large Profitable U.S. Corporations Paid Tax but Effective Tax Rates Differed Significantly from the Statutory Rate

In each year from 2006 to 2012, at least two-thirds of all active corporations had no federal income tax liability. Larger corporations were more likely to owe tax. Among large corporations (generally those with at least $10 million in assets) less than half—42.3 percent—paid no federal income tax in 2012. Of those large corporations whose financial statements reported a profit, 19.5 percent paid no federal income tax that year. Reasons why even profitable corporations may have paid no federal tax in a given year include the use of tax deductions for losses carried forward from prior years and tax incentives, such as depreciation allowances that are more generous in the federal tax code than those allowed for financial accounting purposes. Corporations that did have a federal corporate income tax liability for tax year 2012 owed $267.5 billion.

And yet they still outsource jobs and bring in cheap labor. Along with buying out all the small competition!

No wonder our middle class is dying.

So, ask yourself ...

WHY do they outsource jobs or bring in cheap labor?

because they're greedy...A higher profit margin. Same as why they buy out all the small competition and offshore. It isn't like they have too but they do so because they're greedy.

... and your point is? Why do you go to the gas station at the local Sam's Club instead of buying it at the station right down the street? Because you're greedy --- you'd rather give money to a corporation than pay an extra nickel a gallon to the small business on your own block.

Your argument is, simply, bullshit. How much money is in your 401(k)? Do you have insurance? Did you borrow money to buy your house? How much bread can you buy with your paycheck?

Every one of those is the DIRECT result of a company trying to maximize its product, and its profit.

Frankly, you're hypocritical. You want to force corporations to do what you should be doing for yourself - but are, simply, too damn lazy. Corporations exist for ONE reason only ---- to maximize the return on investment of its stock holders and owners. That's what we pay them to do .... if you tell me your company is investing 20% in charity (and that IS what you are proposing), they aren't going to get my investment dollars.

Get over it - grow up - and take responsibility for yourself.

People like Matthew have bought into the narrative pushed by people who don't understand what corporations are...that profit is somehow "evil". It isn't for the people who have invested their money in that corporation. No profit...no investment.

 

[Oldstyle]

So, your only answer is to steal money from retirement plans and old people to pay for your largesse.

Sounds like pretty much what I suspected.

Ok so since you like to think you're this totally self-sufficient, manly conservative, does that mean you always feel shitty when you drive on public roads? No of course you don't. You don't even understand what government spending actually entails. In your Fox News world, "government spending" is dirty, evil socialism! It must be destroyed!

Now, tell me --- why would I feel "shitty" for driving on public roads? You know, the ones I pay for ... those roads. Where do you think the government gets its money? From me! So, just send me a thank you note and I'll let you continue to use MY roads.

Christ, dude that's the point I'm trying to make to you. Revenue pays for government spending. It doesn't always, of course, but when it's sufficient, shit gets paid for. That's why tax cuts are so irresponsible. They are what adds to the deficit/debt. The reason why we raise taxes is partially because of inflation. Costs go up so must revenue.

Your argument is cute, but faulty. You automatically assume that "government spending" is a good thing .... once again, there is no such thing as ":government spending". There is only money taken from the people, with their permission (most of the time), and redistributed in accordance with the wishes of those very same people.

Tax cuts are NOT irresponsible - as long as one single dollar goes to anything other than what the people direct. Issuing condoms to prostitutes in Thailand is a waste of my money. Studying the social impact among pigs of weight is a waste of my money.. Go look at where your "government spending" goes - 2016 Congressional Pig Book | Citizens Against Government Waste

Until you have cut government spending to the absolute minimum necessary to do those activities the people have assigned it, cutting taxes is the only way to prevent/stop/eliminate the fiefdoms of Washington.

What's sad about this is that you don't even understand actual government waste. Our science budget is minuscule to the waste we create in our defense budget. Sure I'm all about representation, but it's the foreign aid and defense we spend that's waste. You can blame republicans for that.

Why is waste in the defense budget a GOP problem? Are you really naive enough to think it doesn't exist under Democrats?

 

[Spare_change]

So, your only answer is to steal money from retirement plans and old people to pay for your largesse.

Sounds like pretty much what I suspected.

Ok so since you like to think you're this totally self-sufficient, manly conservative, does that mean you always feel shitty when you drive on public roads? No of course you don't. You don't even understand what government spending actually entails. In your Fox News world, "government spending" is dirty, evil socialism! It must be destroyed!

Now, tell me --- why would I feel "shitty" for driving on public roads? You know, the ones I pay for ... those roads. Where do you think the government gets its money? From me! So, just send me a thank you note and I'll let you continue to use MY roads.

Christ, dude that's the point I'm trying to make to you. Revenue pays for government spending. It doesn't always, of course, but when it's sufficient, shit gets paid for. That's why tax cuts are so irresponsible. They are what adds to the deficit/debt. The reason why we raise taxes is partially because of inflation. Costs go up so must revenue.

Your argument is cute, but faulty. You automatically assume that "government spending" is a good thing .... once again, there is no such thing as ":government spending". There is only money taken from the people, with their permission (most of the time), and redistributed in accordance with the wishes of those very same people.

Tax cuts are NOT irresponsible - as long as one single dollar goes to anything other than what the people direct. Issuing condoms to prostitutes in Thailand is a waste of my money. Studying the social impact among pigs of weight is a waste of my money.. Go look at where your "government spending" goes - 2016 Congressional Pig Book | Citizens Against Government Waste

Until you have cut government spending to the absolute minimum necessary to do those activities the people have assigned it, cutting taxes is the only way to prevent/stop/eliminate the fiefdoms of Washington.

What's sad about this is that you don't even understand actual government waste. Our science budget is minuscule to the waste we create in our defense budget. Sure I'm all about representation, but it's the foreign aid and defense we spend that's waste. You can blame republicans for that.

Your complaint about science vs defense budget is a function of the representatives YOU sent to Congress. If you don't like it, quit bitching and do something about it.

As for "blame republicans for that" --- what unmitigated nonsense. It's taken 70 years to get in this condition - both sides have contributed to it.

Why don't you quit "blaming" and start "fixing"? Bitching might make you feel better, but it doesn't change anything.

i have an idea --- let's freeze government spending at 2016 levels for three years. During that three years, each government agency will 1) conduct an audit of their programs with a goal of eliminating 15% of funding, 2) participate in a bottom-up review of agency functions with a goal of identifying and eliminating duplicative spending, and 3) eliminate all activities not directly supporting those functions for which the agency was created.

At the end of the three year moratorium, pass a law requiring a balanced budget except in cases of war or national emergency. In addition, pass a law that eliminates interim funding, and mandates that the budget will be in place not later than 30 Sept, or all government functions, with the exception of mission-critical activities, will be closed until the budget is passed and signed. Give the president line-item veto, (which can be overridden by 2/3 of the House), with the proviso that any money saved as a result of the line-item veto may NOT be reallocated to other government activities.

 

[Oldstyle]

Ok so since you like to think you're this totally self-sufficient, manly conservative, does that mean you always feel shitty when you drive on public roads? No of course you don't. You don't even understand what government spending actually entails. In your Fox News world, "government spending" is dirty, evil socialism! It must be destroyed!

Now, tell me --- why would I feel "shitty" for driving on public roads? You know, the ones I pay for ... those roads. Where do you think the government gets its money? From me! So, just send me a thank you note and I'll let you continue to use MY roads.

Christ, dude that's the point I'm trying to make to you. Revenue pays for government spending. It doesn't always, of course, but when it's sufficient, shit gets paid for. That's why tax cuts are so irresponsible. They are what adds to the deficit/debt. The reason why we raise taxes is partially because of inflation. Costs go up so must revenue.

Your argument is cute, but faulty. You automatically assume that "government spending" is a good thing .... once again, there is no such thing as ":government spending". There is only money taken from the people, with their permission (most of the time), and redistributed in accordance with the wishes of those very same people.

Tax cuts are NOT irresponsible - as long as one single dollar goes to anything other than what the people direct. Issuing condoms to prostitutes in Thailand is a waste of my money. Studying the social impact among pigs of weight is a waste of my money.. Go look at where your "government spending" goes - 2016 Congressional Pig Book | Citizens Against Government Waste

Until you have cut government spending to the absolute minimum necessary to do those activities the people have assigned it, cutting taxes is the only way to prevent/stop/eliminate the fiefdoms of Washington.

What's sad about this is that you don't even understand actual government waste. Our science budget is minuscule to the waste we create in our defense budget. Sure I'm all about representation, but it's the foreign aid and defense we spend that's waste. You can blame republicans for that.

Your complaint about science vs defense budget is a function of the representatives YOU sent to Congress. If you don't like it, quit bitching and do something about it.

As for "blame republicans for that" --- what unmitigated nonsense. It's taken 70 years to get in this condition - both sides have contributed to it.

Why don't you quit "blaming" and start "fixing"? Bitching might make you feel better, but it doesn't change anything.

i have an idea --- let's freeze government spending at 2016 levels for three years. During that three years, each government agency will 1) conduct an audit of their programs with a goal of eliminating 15% of funding, 2) participate in a bottom-up review of agency functions with a goal of identifying and eliminating duplicative spending, and 3) eliminate all activities not directly supporting those functions for which the agency was created.

At the end of the three year moratorium, pass a law requiring a balanced budget except in cases of war or national emergency. In addition, pass a law that eliminates interim funding, and mandates that the budget will be in place not later than 30 Sept, or all government functions, with the exception of mission-critical activities, will be closed until the budget is passed and signed. Give the president line-item veto, (which can be overridden by 2/3 of the House), with the proviso that any money saved as a result of the line-item veto may NOT be reallocated to other government activities.

Your proposal makes complete sense...which of course is why nobody in the Federal Government would want anything to do with it! Since anyone with even a modicum of common sense knows that waste is rampant in our government yet everyone points fingers at "OTHERS" as the wasters...not themselves...the only solution is to force them into cutting waste by cutting their budgets. Be advised that doing so will make those who work in government do their best to "punish" the voters by getting rid of as many of the things we like...like National Parks...as they can in to try and convince us that we HAVE to spend all that money!

 

[Wyatt earp]

When I say choice in policy, I mean the difference in numbers of policy positions.

Democrats push for:

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges
2) Making healthcare more affordable
3) Raising the minimum wage
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change
5) Keeping big money out of politics
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy)
7) Tax cuts for the middle class
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit
10) LGBT rights advocacy
11) Feminist issues
12) Making college more affordable
13) Targeting Wall Street crime
14) Gun control

The list doesn't even stop there. There's even more ideas than that.

Now let's examine republican policy

1) Giving tax breaks to the top earners (which ONLY helps them)
2) Deregulation
3) Limiting LGBT rights
4) Limiting women's right
5) No to ObamaCare
6) Getting rid of porn(RNC), sex toys (Ted Cruz)

Okay that's 14 to 6 in the number of policy ideas. Now keep in mind that 5 of those republican policies are not pro-active ideas. They are just policies that say "No" to something rather than policies expressing new solutions.

You can hate the democratic ideas all you want, but at least they are proactive ideas that outnumber the list in the republican platform.

Once again we must ask: why would anyone not in the 1% vote republican?

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges


Bullshit

 

[Wyatt earp]

Are you saying all Democrats support those policies listed? Or just Hillary's promises?

I'm saying democratic leaders push those ideas.

Single question ----- how do you (the collective you - I know how democrats love the word 'collective') propose to pay for that list?

Answer that for each item - and we'll talk.

It's interesting how you ask that when you know any spending program proposed by republcans is NEVER paid for. Cutting defense spending could easily pay for most of those. Closing tax loopholes taken advantage by corporations would pay for a lot as well. 2/3 of all corporations pay no federal income taxes because of loopholes. That essentially makes the official rate of 35% a complete joke. It's the EFFECTIVE tax rate that matters.

You're an idfiot, why are you against high paying Union jobs and two go ahead and try to close one loop hole you will just create three more.

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[Wyatt earp]

When I say choice in policy, I mean the difference in numbers of policy positions.

Democrats push for:

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges
2) Making healthcare more affordable
3) Raising the minimum wage
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change
5) Keeping big money out of politics
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy)
7) Tax cuts for the middle class
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit
10) LGBT rights advocacy
11) Feminist issues
12) Making college more affordable
13) Targeting Wall Street crime
14) Gun control

The list doesn't even stop there. There's even more ideas than that.

Now let's examine republican policy

1) Giving tax breaks to the top earners (which ONLY helps them)
2) Deregulation
3) Limiting LGBT rights
4) Limiting women's right
5) No to ObamaCare
6) Getting rid of porn(RNC), sex toys (Ted Cruz)

Okay that's 14 to 6 in the number of policy ideas. Now keep in mind that 5 of those republican policies are not pro-active ideas. They are just policies that say "No" to something rather than policies expressing new solutions.

You can hate the democratic ideas all you want, but at least they are proactive ideas that outnumber the list in the republican platform.



Once again we must ask: why would anyone not in the 1% vote republican?

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges And yet they blew it with nearly a trillion of stimulus money
2) Making healthcare more affordable Obamacare has made it way more expensive all the way around
3) Raising the minimum wage Another way to kill small businesses, along with Obamacare and overregulation
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change The proposed solutions are nothing more than wealth redistribution and the left's own experts agreed they won't have a measureable effect.
5) Keeping big money out of politics Hillary got campaign donations from other countries, some who are hostile to us, then there is Soros. Dems are all about big money.
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy) The left has zero trust in the private sector
7) Tax cuts for the middle class Where the hell are they? Obamacare raised costs for us. And we pick up the tab for all the left's stupid ideas.
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers For the few jobs left after the left's disastrous policies.
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit They should be reducing spending. So much is just wasted.
10) LGBT rights advocacy Men following little girl's into the bathroom. And it was the supreme court that handled gay marriage.
11) Feminist issues What issues do feminists have that other women don't have?
12) Making college more affordable Most have liberal professors who are getting paid enormous amounts. That is why expenses are up. High tuition is caused by liberals.
13) Targeting Wall Street crime Funny, considering that liberals are in bed with Wallstreet, too
14) Gun control We need criminal control. Libs want to disarm the public. Hillary already said she doesn't think the 2nd amendment allows the right to own guns.

And the liberals supporting the Muslims in Britain when they took sexy photos of women off public ads and billboards and you bitch about some wanting to do away with porn.

1) Nearly a trillion? You need to learn your facts. Only 50 billion of the stimulus went to infrastructure spending. Hell, half of that trillion went to extending Bush's tax cuts.
2) ObamaCare did nothing to make healthcare more expensive. It's the price of it has been increasing since before ACA's implementation. It has however slowed the growth of this spending.
3) Historically, raising the min wage does not signfically harm small businesses. In fact, 600 econmists signed a letter to congress in support of raising the min wage to 10.10 per hour.
4) Mitigation is about preparing the planet for the irreversible damage that will come. Doing nothing would only make it worse.
5) Bernie Sanders outraised ALL of the republican candidates in campaign funding and he did it without the help of super PACs. Donations at $27 a piece. Suck on that.
6) So stupid. You people think like children, It's dangerous black and white thinking. Letting corporations do whatever the fuck they want is obviously a terrible idea.
7) There's no causation between ObamaCare and the rise of prices. Again, it's been increasing long before ObamaCare came along.
8) Hmm 15 million+ private jobs have been created under Obama. Compare that to Bush with a pathetic 2 million and two recessions to offset even that number.
9) Yeah it's called defense spending. Of course any freshman in economics will tell you that raising taxes is a critical way to reduce the rising cost of any government program.
10) There weren't perverts going into these bathrooms with kids before the media shined it's light on the issue. What you people are too stupid to realize is that transsexuals have been using the bathrooms of the sex they identify with for years. Republicans just decided to make this long time, harmless practice illegal.
11) The right to choose. Duh.
12) Um the real issue is the staggering price for student tuition. You never went to college so I guess I can't expect you to grasp this.
13) Yeah but only liberals want to do anything about it.
14) Hillary won't do jack shit to the 2nd amendment.

1) Nearly a trillion? You need to learn your facts. Only 50 billion of the stimulus went to infrastructure spending. Hell, half of that trillion went to extending Bush's tax cuts.

Lmfao, I THOUGHT YOY SAID DEMOCRATS WERE FOR FIXING ROADS AND BRIDGES?

Liar