Republicans have no understanding of real policy ideas. Democrats do.

[Billy000]

When I say choice in policy, I mean the difference in numbers of policy positions.

Democrats push for:

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges
2) Making healthcare more affordable
3) Raising the minimum wage
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change
5) Keeping big money out of politics
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy)
7) Tax cuts for the middle class
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit
10) LGBT rights advocacy
11) Feminist issues
12) Making college more affordable
13) Targeting Wall Street crime
14) Gun control

The list doesn't even stop there. There's even more ideas than that.

Now let's examine republican policy

1) Giving tax breaks to the top earners (which ONLY helps them)
2) Deregulation
3) Limiting LGBT rights
4) Limiting women's right
5) No to ObamaCare
6) Getting rid of porn(RNC), sex toys (Ted Cruz)

Okay that's 14 to 6 in the number of policy ideas. Now keep in mind that 5 of those republican policies are not pro-active ideas. They are just policies that say "No" to something rather than policies expressing new solutions.

You can hate the democratic ideas all you want, but at least they are proactive ideas that outnumber the list in the republican platform.

Once again we must ask: why would anyone not in the 1% vote republican?

 

[Billy000]

The truth of the matter must be that republican voters have no earthly understanding what they are voting for.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Are you saying all Democrats support those policies listed? Or just Hillary's promises?

 

[Billy000]

Are you saying all Democrats support those policies listed? Or just Hillary's promises?

I'm saying democratic leaders push those ideas.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

That's funny, I thought all this time Obama was a Democrat and after 8 years he hasn't done much of anything about half of your list and he should have left the other half alone

 

[Spare_change]

Are you saying all Democrats support those policies listed? Or just Hillary's promises?

I'm saying democratic leaders push those ideas.

Single question ----- how do you (the collective you - I know how democrats love the word 'collective') propose to pay for that list?

Answer that for each item - and we'll talk.

 

[Billy000]

That's funny, I thought all this time Obama was a Democrat and after 8 years he hasn't done much of anything about half of your list and he should have left the other half alone

Obama attempted most of them but his efforts were blocked by republicans. Duh! We do have a three branch system. He did succeed in several of them though.

 

[Billy000]

Are you saying all Democrats support those policies listed? Or just Hillary's promises?

I'm saying democratic leaders push those ideas.

Single question ----- how do you (the collective you - I know how democrats love the word 'collective') propose to pay for that list?

Answer that for each item - and we'll talk.

It's interesting how you ask that when you know any spending program proposed by republcans is NEVER paid for. Cutting defense spending could easily pay for most of those. Closing tax loopholes taken advantage by corporations would pay for a lot as well. 2/3 of all corporations pay no federal income taxes because of loopholes. That essentially makes the official rate of 35% a complete joke. It's the EFFECTIVE tax rate that matters.

 

[ScienceRocks]

They're the dumbest people of our society! They're just anti-government as they think living in the goddamn wild west sounds really cool.


Anti-government savage is like the isis!!! Anti-science, Anti-education and anti-logic piece of crap. May they all move to Somalia, god fucking willing. maybe they'll learn that it isn't all peaches and cream this idea of abolishing the goddamn government is played up to be!

If you don't want to pay taxes for the road you drive on or 50 million other things. GET THE HELL OUT!!! SERIOUSLY!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Are you saying all Democrats support those policies listed? Or just Hillary's promises?

I'm saying democratic leaders push those ideas.

Single question ----- how do you (the collective you - I know how democrats love the word 'collective') propose to pay for that list?

Answer that for each item - and we'll talk.

99% of these policies are already in place and most people like them! We pay fucking taxes for them and we're the most powerful nation on earth because we invest in our own country. Got anymore effin questions?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Are you saying all Democrats support those policies listed? Or just Hillary's promises?

Believe it or not, I disagree with quite a few but certain things shouldn't even be debatable. That is why I am pissed.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Here are my beliefs

Democrats push for:

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges-Common sense. Every country on earth does this and anyone that doesn't is a fucking idiot!
2) Making healthcare more affordable-Sounds like a great idea! WE spend more of our gdp on healthcare on each person then any other country on earth. What do we get for it? Millions of uninsured and people dying with huge debts. There's no other industrial country on gods earth that doesn't have single payer or universal healthcare! It would be conservative! It would decrease the debt...Get with it!
3) Raising the minimum wage-Oregons minimum wage had 1. for Portland, 2. for Eugene and Salem and 3 for the rest of the state. Maybe cities that are big should be raised to a higher rate then the lower populated areas??? I do care about businesses but the worker deserves to be able to survive too.
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change-Humanity would be well served to invest in research into past climate change and make planning based on it. Climate changes and I believe global warming that is induced by humans will only make it worse. Solar and wind are also great resources to take advantage of.
5) Keeping big money out of politics-Get rid of citizens united!!!! Good plan!
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy)-Not quite sure what this is but if it is keeping us safe from bad products. It is a good idea!
7) Tax cuts for the middle class-Agree. The middle class is the real engine of our economy as is far larger and we need more competition...Most new competition will start here.
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers-Great idea!
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit- Sounds like a plan..Hit the traitors in the 1% that have been outsourcing to our enemies.
10) LGBT rights advocacy-Freedom baby!
11) Feminist issues-well, it has become a hate group in some ways. So we can't all agree with all the issues.
12) Making college more affordable-Great idea!More education = more businesses and innovation.
13) Targeting Wall Street crime- Good idea
14) Gun control-We should respect the second amendment but we can't have insane people with as easy exist to them either.

 

[tyroneweaver]

 

[ScienceRocks]

Now let's examine republican policy

1) Giving tax breaks to the top earners (which ONLY helps them)-Dumb! The bastards just go over seas with it and hold onto it. Any third world shit hole can have a small Baron class.
2) Deregulation-Great depression and great recession were caused by doing so! Some things shouldn't ever be deregulated....
3) Limiting LGBT rights-They're against freedom
4) Limiting women's right-Well I do believe in rights for all as long as it isn't about hating males.
5) No to ObamaCare-and they plan to send it to the same assholes that screw everyone down to the bone if they get sick and die in debt.
6) Getting rid of porn(RNC), sex toys (Ted Cruz)-Anti-freedom fascist!

 

[tyroneweaver]

They're the dumbest people of our society! They're just anti-government as they think living in the goddamn wild west sounds really cool.


Anti-government savage is like the isis!!! Anti-science, Anti-education and anti-logic piece of crap. May they all move to Somalia, god fucking willing. maybe they'll learn that it isn't all peaches and cream this idea of abolishing the goddamn government is played up to be!

If you don't want to pay taxes for the road you drive on or 50 million other things. GET THE HELL OUT!!! SERIOUSLY!

We don't need to move to somalia dork, you're bringing somalia here.

 

[tyroneweaver]

That's funny, I thought all this time Obama was a Democrat and after 8 years he hasn't done much of anything about half of your list and he should have left the other half alone

Obama attempted most of them but his efforts were blocked by republicans. Duh! We do have a three branch system. He did succeed in several of them though.

Lie, the gop gave obama everything he wanted plus even more money.

 

[owebo]

When I say choice in policy, I mean the difference in numbers of policy positions.

Democrats push for:

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges
2) Making healthcare more affordable
3) Raising the minimum wage
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change
5) Keeping big money out of politics
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy)
7) Tax cuts for the middle class
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit
10) LGBT rights advocacy
11) Feminist issues
12) Making college more affordable
13) Targeting Wall Street crime
14) Gun control

The list doesn't even stop there. There's even more ideas than that.

Now let's examine republican policy

1) Giving tax breaks to the top earners (which ONLY helps them)
2) Deregulation
3) Limiting LGBT rights
4) Limiting women's right
5) No to ObamaCare
6) Getting rid of porn(RNC), sex toys (Ted Cruz)

Okay that's 14 to 6 in the number of policy ideas. Now keep in mind that 5 of those republican policies are not pro-active ideas. They are just policies that say "No" to something rather than policies expressing new solutions.

You can hate the democratic ideas all you want, but at least they are proactive ideas that outnumber the list in the republican platform.

Once again we must ask: why would anyone not in the 1% vote republican?

Public school?

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Here are my beliefs

Democrats push for:

1) Investing in fixing roads and bridges-Common sense. Every country on earth does this and anyone that doesn't is a fucking idiot!
2) Making healthcare more affordable-Sounds like a great idea! WE spend more of our gdp on healthcare on each person then any other country on earth. What do we get for it? Millions of uninsured and people dying with huge debts. There's no other industrial country on gods earth that doesn't have single payer or universal healthcare! It would be conservative! It would decrease the debt...Get with it!
3) Raising the minimum wage-Oregons minimum wage had 1. for Portland, 2. for Eugene and Salem and 3 for the rest of the state. Maybe cities that are big should be raised to a higher rate then the lower populated areas??? I do care about businesses but the worker deserves to be able to survive too.
4) Mitigating the effects of climate change-Humanity would be well served to invest in research into past climate change and make planning based on it. Climate changes and I believe global warming that is induced by humans will only make it worse. Solar and wind are also great resources to take advantage of.
5) Keeping big money out of politics-Get rid of citizens united!!!! Good plan!
6) Regulations targeting products of human consumption (consumer advocacy)-Not quite sure what this is but if it is keeping us safe from bad products. It is a good idea!
7) Tax cuts for the middle class-Agree. The middle class is the real engine of our economy as is far larger and we need more competition...Most new competition will start here.
8) Extending the eligibility of over time pay for workers-Great idea!
9) Raising taxes to reduce the deficit- Sounds like a plan..Hit the traitors in the 1% that have been outsourcing to our enemies.
10) LGBT rights advocacy-Freedom baby!
11) Feminist issues-well, it has become a hate group in some ways. So we can't all agree with all the issues.
12) Making college more affordable-Great idea!More education = more businesses and innovation.
13) Targeting Wall Street crime- Good idea
14) Gun control-We should respect the second amendment but we can't have insane people with as easy exist to them either.

So this is all about your beliefs in what 'should be' and not as 'what is'??? That's what this sounds like to me cause I haven't received any tax cuts in the last 8 years, I don't see a reduction in the deficit, Healthcare (Obamacare) is outrageous and many insurance companies are backing out of it and has become a huge failure, that #6 about regulating for consumer advocacy is a joke since Congress under your Democrat Obama recently passed a bill & Obama signed into law (HR bill 1599 or more commonly called the 'Deny Americans the Right to Know or DARK Act) that allows companies such as Monsanto (who by the way gives big money to both Dems & Reps so they win either way and Hillary used to work for) to invalidate Vermonts food labelling law.

Either stick to the facts or your beliefs, but don't try to pass one off as the other.

 

[Billy000]

Typical response.

 

[Grizz]

Look at these Lefty's jerking each other off. It's cute how you kids work yourselves into a frenzy and just start foaming at the mouth.