Republicans have lost the black vote forever?

[Harry Dresden]

Lakota comes in at 3rd

Dodge party!!

It's not a dodge when you've been here long enough to see the same posts from the same posters over and over and over and over.

i hear ya.....and Dean is one of the most repetitious ones here....

 

[rightwinger]

How long are Black people going to put up with the plantation mentality of the democrat party? Democrats are so engrossed in dirty tricks that they aren't even aware of how profoundly insulting it is to characterize Black people as being so helpless that they are unable to obtain a photo I.D. in the 21st century. Nobody on the left ever apologized for the racist cartoons in mainstream newspapers depicting Dr. Condie Rice as a slave mammy with ragged clothes and grotesque features because she was appointed Secretary of State by President Bush.

Conservatives love that "plantation" analogy


What have Conservatives done to get blacks off that "plantation"
Show some initiatives that have benefitted blacks, or any poor person on that plantation

While you are at it, why don't you show which "mainstream" newspaper printed that cartoon about Condi Rice

since millions of Blacks of been on that poor plantation since the days of slavery.....what have the Democrats done to get them off it?.....

Glad you asked

Affirmative action did a lot to open up job opportunities never imagined by blacks. It opened up schools, management level positions, the military. It was of course opposed by Republicans
Add to that jobs training programs, jobs placement, small business set asides for minorities, minority set aside loans programs....all opposed by Republicans

Now.....your turn
What have Republicans offered blacks to get them off that "plantation"?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Probably. However, the number of Conservative African Americans is growing. But yes, i would say overall, the Republican Party has lost the African American vote forever. But i don't think it matters. They've won many many Elections without it. Now it's all about capturing the Hispanic Vote. Unfortunately, African Americans will be left in the dust again. Hispanics are rapidly moving past them on the economic ladder. They're gaining power & influence. This massive influx of Illegals is going to hurt them the most. They're vote is going to become less important for both Parties.

Will black people get the message? The democrats have sold them out in favor of Hispanics. Maybe black people will be driven to Republicans by the democrat whip.

Hispanics will be democrats as long as they get free stuff from democrats but only until the Hispanics are numerous enough to abandon liberal democrats in favor of Hispanics. Hispanics are pretty much all about the corruption. They are comfortable living in a corrupt government. That's why their own countries are so corrupt.

as long as the right has people like you in their mists ....forget it....Blacks have gotten that message....

 

[Harry Dresden]

African Americans and Unions especially, will regret their 'Party before Country' support for this Democrat-orchestrated mass influx of Illegals. They're contributing to their own demise.

yea Republicans are so much better.....have you read any posts by righties like Katz?....yea those Blacks and other Minorities get treated with so much respect....

 

[Dad2three]

African Americans and Unions especially, will regret their 'Party before Country' support for this Democrat-orchestrated mass influx of Illegals. They're contributing to their own demise.

Weird, Didn't the GOP have the Congress (mainly) 1995-2007 with Dubya in there 2001-2009? What did they do about it again?

Reagan gave 4+ million amnesty too

Obviously, this current mess is your Supreme Leader and Party's doing. But i actually think it's gonna backfire on you guys. You've definitely underestimated the Citizens' anger and resistance. 'Party before Country' may not work as well as you planned.

Sure, as long as you say so, no other data or facts needed *shaking head*

 

[Dad2three]

Third World Misery. That's what's coming. And sadly, too many Americans are not prepared. Only the powerful Globalist Elites will prosper in the coming New World Order.

We can thank conservatives and their economic 'theory'' like 'free trade', low taxes on 'job creators' and Corp welfare they refuse to reform!


Third World countries. One of the things they all had in common was a small, very rich elite, small middle class, and a large lower class. They also shared very low economic growth as a result. This has been known for at least 50 years. The US has been going in this direction for at least the last 30 years as we have gradually de-industrialized and government policies (such as trickle down economics, 'free trade' ) have promoted the shift of wealth from the lower and middle classes to the economic elite

Both Parties have contributed to the coming Third World Misery. But it's all part of the plan. Their Global Fascist State is rapidly becoming a reality.

Libertarians believe in myths and fairy tales, nothing more!

 

[Dad2three]

Dodge party!!

from the sheep party

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory

The conclusion?

Lowering the tax rates on the wealthy and top earners in America do not appear to have any impact on the nation’s economic growth.

This paragraph from the report says it all—

“The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-GOP Suppresses Study - Forbes




Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father, American diplomat, statesman, and scientist; letter to Robert Morris, December 25, 1783:



"All the property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it."


Your taxes are really low, in one chart

The average filer saw her effective tax rate drop from 22 percent in 1979 to 18.1 percent in 2010

Your taxes are really low, in one chart - The Washington Post


Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950


Federal, state and local income taxes consumed 9.2% of all personal income in 2009, the lowest rate since 1950

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950 - USATODAY.com

 

[Harry Dresden]

I think posters should be penalized or banned for repetitive lying. Take the OP. There are so many lies in it it's not worth the time or effort to refute these lies.

And those posters who continually put up the "republicans are racist and have poopy pants and have cooties threads" freaking know that they continually spew lies.

This type of constant bullshit is really dumbing down this board.

I agree. All you have to do is "NAME THE ******* LIES"!

remember this thread of yours?......"Republicans HATE Education and want to END it"....its been years,i have asked before.....wheres your proof?.....show a Republican saying he HATES Education and wants to END it.....your Santorum thread dont cut it.....he never says this in the video.....

 

[Crystalclear]

We can thank conservatives and their economic 'theory'' like 'free trade', low taxes on 'job creators' and Corp welfare they refuse to reform!





Third World countries. One of the things they all had in common was a small, very rich elite, small middle class, and a large lower class. They also shared very low economic growth as a result. This has been known for at least 50 years. The US has been going in this direction for at least the last 30 years as we have gradually de-industrialized and government policies (such as trickle down economics, 'free trade' ) have promoted the shift of wealth from the lower and middle classes to the economic elite

Both Parties have contributed to the coming Third World Misery. But it's all part of the plan. Their Global Fascist State is rapidly becoming a reality.

Libertarians believe in myths and fairy tales, nothing more!

No, they don't, only people like Paultician (the batshit crazies) believe in those New World Order fairy tales. They only represent a small part of the libertarians

 

[AvgGuyIA]

I think posters should be penalized or banned for repetitive lying. Take the OP. There are so many lies in it it's not worth the time or effort to refute these lies.

And those posters who continually put up the "republicans are racist and have poopy pants and have cooties threads" freaking know that they continually spew lies.

This type of constant bullshit is really dumbing down this board.

I wonder if not responding would help slow it down. Why argue with an idiot?

 

[healthmyths]

Have Republicans lost the black vote forever or for decades?

Look at what they've done. Right here on the USMB there are endless threads from popular right wingers who go on and on about blacks being inferior or being "plantation blacks" without integrity because all they want is "free stuff" completely ignoring the fact that blacks make up an important part of the Democratic Party coalition. They just can't give blacks credit for anything.

From 2007 until the last presidential elections, the largest growth in food stamps were in 254 counties. 213 of those counties voted for Mitt Romney. Obviously they were white counties. Doesn't anyone wonder how many of those who lost their jobs lost them because of "Pioneer of outsourcing" Romney and his "Move the jobs to China" Bain Capital?

Worse, is the way Republicans have treated this president. House Republicans approval rating is 7. One sixth of Obama's. The Conservative court is at 30%. The lowest ever.

The country is still suffering from the effects of Republican economic and foreign policy and right wingers are desperately trying to pin those failures on President Obama?

Then there are the endless insults publicly towards this president. Uppity? Tar baby? Hitler (I mean, come on. Hitler?)?

Then there is right wing hero Bundy. Blacks were better off as slaves.

And that other right wing hero, child killer Zimmerman.

Clearly Republicans don't want blacks. Not after all that.

Course, they don't want gays. That goes without saying.

Just the fact that Republicans pick out so many to hate, how are they going to "grow"? What makes them an attractive party to belong to besides who they malign?

With Obama having really disappointed the black community AND these demographics i.e. 13% of the population Black....who gives'a f...k!

Source: USA QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
In 2012
White alone, 61.1% of population
Non white: 38.9%

• Hispanic or Latino- 16.9%
• Black or African American alone - 13.1%
• Asian alone - 5.1%
• Two or More Races - 2.4%
• American Indian and Alaska Native alone - 1.2%
• Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone -0.2%

 

[AvgGuyIA]

How long are Black people going to put up with the plantation mentality of the democrat party?

The fatal flaw in your thinking is believing Democrats are trying to make only blacks into government dependents.

Democrats are trying to make EVERYONE into government dependents.

Democrats are not treating blacks any differently than they treat their other voters.

Republicans, on the other hand, are incredibly divisive. They broadcast in no uncertain terms their distaste not only toward blacks, but toward gays, Muslims, Mexicans, and all other non-WASPs as well.

Blacks might be treated like helpless children by Democrats, but they are not going to switch to a party which so clearly hates them.

For as long as the Republican party refuses to take out its trash (racists, bigots, liars, hypocrites, idiots, and psychopaths), it will suffer the consequences at the polls.

Examples please? And don't make things up.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Conservatives love that "plantation" analogy


What have Conservatives done to get blacks off that "plantation"
Show some initiatives that have benefitted blacks, or any poor person on that plantation

While you are at it, why don't you show which "mainstream" newspaper printed that cartoon about Condi Rice

Tip for the clueless....its not the govts job to benefit any specific race...

Show any Conservative initiative that helps anyone of any race get off that "plantation"

Just one

Free public education. If you don't take advantage of it, does that mean I'm a racist or hate women or bash gays? To a liberal it does exactly that. At least that's the lie they tell the dummies who didn't take advantage of our free education.

 

[freedombecki]

Have Republicans lost the black vote forever or for decades?

Look at what they've done. Right here on the USMB there are endless threads from popular right wingers who go on and on about blacks being inferior or being "plantation blacks" without integrity because all they want is "free stuff" completely ignoring the fact that blacks make up an important part of the Democratic Party coalition. They just can't give blacks credit for anything.

Socks are for Darning, Mr. Dean.

From 2007 until the last presidential elections, the largest growth in food stamps were in 254 counties. 213 of those counties voted for Mitt Romney. Obviously they were white counties. Doesn't anyone wonder how many of those who lost their jobs lost them because of "Pioneer of outsourcing" Romney and his "Move the jobs to China" Bain Capital?

Funny how milking the system leaves fewer cows to do all that giving.

Worse, is the way Republicans have treated this president. House Republicans approval rating is 7. One sixth of Obama's. The Conservative court is at 30%. The lowest ever.

Who in the world would ever tell in front of God and everybody how bad the Republicans are, when actually, many of us worked a lifetime for lower wages than those who receive all the benefits of the poor in America?

The country is still suffering from the effects of Republican economic and foreign policy and right wingers are desperately trying to pin those failures on President Obama?

Aren't you happy when we win public office it is to fix Democrat messes like rampant crime, deficits out the wazoo, and to protect the American people from international creepsisters whose hate America rhetoric received Democrat support?

Then there are the endless insults publicly towards this president. Uppity? Tar baby? Hitler (I mean, come on. Hitler?)?

Michelle Obama's "All this for a damn flag" shown at three different speeds - YouTube

Then there is right wing hero Bundy. Blacks were better off as slaves.

Sorry, Theodore Bundy was a sociopathic serial rapist-murderer whose every activity was to meet, seduce, kill women. Aren't you glad he targeted Republicans rather than Democrats, or do you just enjoy smearing Republicans for smearing's sake?


And that other right wing hero, child killer Zimmerman.

You are misinformed.


Clearly Republicans don't want blacks. Not after all that.

You are misinformed.


Course, they don't want gays. That goes without saying.

You are misinformed.


Just the fact that Republicans pick out so many to hate, how are they going to "grow"? What makes them an attractive party to belong to besides who they malign?

Project much?

 

[rightwinger]

Tip for the clueless....its not the govts job to benefit any specific race...

Show any Conservative initiative that helps anyone of any race get off that "plantation"

Just one

Free public education. If you don't take advantage of it, does that mean I'm a racist or hate women or bash gays? To a liberal it does exactly that. At least that's the lie they tell the dummies who didn't take advantage of our free education.

Same old same o

You can't make it, tough luck. Level playing field?
Thats your problem

 

[rdean]

How long are Black people going to put up with the plantation mentality of the democrat party?

The fatal flaw in your thinking is believing Democrats are trying to make only blacks into government dependents.

Democrats are trying to make EVERYONE into government dependents.

Democrats are not treating blacks any differently than they treat their other voters.

Republicans, on the other hand, are incredibly divisive. They broadcast in no uncertain terms their distaste not only toward blacks, but toward gays, Muslims, Mexicans, and all other non-WASPs as well.

Blacks might be treated like helpless children by Democrats, but they are not going to switch to a party which so clearly hates them.

For as long as the Republican party refuses to take out its trash (racists, bigots, liars, hypocrites, idiots, and psychopaths), it will suffer the consequences at the polls.

Examples please? And don't make things up.

OK

Rep. Lamborn: Working With Obama Is like 'Touching a Tar Baby' - ABC News

Kansas GOP House Speaker 'Prays' That Obama's 'Children Be Fatherless And His Wife A Widow'

GOP Congressman Apologizes for Calling Obama 'Boy' - ABC News

GOP Congressman Calls Obama "Uppity"

That's just a couple of examples of the race thing. I wasn't going to mention the CNN camera women who had peanuts thrown at her and was taunted with "This is how we feed the animals" at the Republican National Convention. Really? The Republican National Convention?

Clearly, Republicans have a race problem. And a gay problem. Do I have to go there?

And when it comes to Democrats making everyone dependent? Give us examples. I will:

Republicans Vow To Cut Food Stamps In Areas Full Of Lazy Republicans

Among the 254 counties where food stamp recipients doubled between 2007 and 2011, Republican Mitt Romney won 213 of them in last year’s presidential election, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. Kentucky’s Owsley County, which backed Romney with 81 percent of its vote, has the largest proportion of food stamp recipients among those that he carried.


Oops, why so many Republicans on food stamps? So lazy. So overfed.

And who are these Democrats who are leading around the blacks who, according to you, are as helpless and undisciplined as children. Clearly, that's how YOU see black people.

Now this is the most hilarious. Save the best for last. You have GOP governors, like Rick Perry going to California and New York looking for skilled workers. They go to liberal states looking for educated workers? Really? But liberals are lazy I thought. Guess GOP leaders don't think so. If there aren't many skilled workers in GOP states, what are there? Oh that's right. People on food stamps who think education is for "snobs".

 

[Harry Dresden]

Conservatives love that "plantation" analogy


What have Conservatives done to get blacks off that "plantation"
Show some initiatives that have benefitted blacks, or any poor person on that plantation

While you are at it, why don't you show which "mainstream" newspaper printed that cartoon about Condi Rice

since millions of Blacks of been on that poor plantation since the days of slavery.....what have the Democrats done to get them off it?.....

Glad you asked

Affirmative action did a lot to open up job opportunities never imagined by blacks. It opened up schools, management level positions, the military. It was of course opposed by Republicans
Add to that jobs training programs, jobs placement, small business set asides for minorities, minority set aside loans programs....all opposed by Republicans

Now.....your turn
What have Republicans offered blacks to get them off that "plantation"?

you forget RW i dont care for Republicans any more than i care for your little party......Republicans treat people like shit.....you see that here every day.....Democrats throw bones out and hope everyone thinks they are doing something.....but the fact remains.....there are and have always been millions of blacks in poverty.....most of those blacks who got out did so on their own with hard work and doing good in school or they had a door opened for them because they were good in sports or had some musical talent....but the regular people who did not have those doors opened?.....just languished in poverty their whole lives....how come rich neighborhoods have schools with everything a school should have while the poor parts of town have to sometimes have classes in the ******* bathroom because their normal room was considered unsafe structurally... quite a few "leaders" in my State have said the State Prisons are better maintained than many Schools around here.....oh in case you havent noticed California is a Democratic State that has always thrown lots of money to Education .....i guess most of that went to the good neighborhoods....

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Dodge party!!

It's not a dodge when you've been here long enough to see the same posts from the same posters over and over and over and over.

June marks 52 straight months of private sector job growth, the longest ever on record, beating out Bill Clinton's record of 51 continuous months of private sector job growth from February 1996 to April 2000.

How is that? Change enough for you?

Where? New Zealand?

 

[rdean]

I think posters should be penalized or banned for repetitive lying. Take the OP. There are so many lies in it it's not worth the time or effort to refute these lies.

And those posters who continually put up the "republicans are racist and have poopy pants and have cooties threads" freaking know that they continually spew lies.

This type of constant bullshit is really dumbing down this board.

I agree. All you have to do is "NAME THE ******* LIES"!

remember this thread of yours?......"Republicans HATE Education and want to END it"....its been years,i have asked before.....wheres your proof?.....show a Republican saying he HATES Education and wants to END it.....your Santorum thread dont cut it.....he never says this in the video.....

Students from poor families would feel the most pain if calls by Kentucky Republican U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul and fellow Tea Party movement conservatives to abolish the U.S. Department of Education

 

[rdean]

It's not a dodge when you've been here long enough to see the same posts from the same posters over and over and over and over.

June marks 52 straight months of private sector job growth, the longest ever on record, beating out Bill Clinton's record of 51 continuous months of private sector job growth from February 1996 to April 2000.

How is that? Change enough for you?

Where? New Zealand?

You live in New Zealand?