Republicans have a poor understanding of economics. They should have no place in making policy

. Liberal means liberal according to common usage?

too stupid by 10000%. By common usage liberal means big govt. This is why liberals spied for Stalin and Hitler and elected Obama. By common usage our Founders were classical liberals or modern conservatives for very very limited govt.

Why do you think a gave you a book to read on that very subject???

Epstein’s most recent book, The Classical Liberal Constitution: The Uncertain Quest for Limited Government, seeks to explain and defend his theory of constitutional understanding.
 
The Truth About ‘The Republican Mandate': 50 Percent More People Have Voted Democrat Since 2010



According to a study conducted by FairVote, the 46 Democrats currently sitting in Senate have gotten 20.7 million more votes over the 2010, 2012 and 2014 elections than the 56 Republicans. Tallied up, that’s 67.8 million to Dems, and 47.1 million to Republicans. Or, to put it another way:

Democrats got a full 50 percent more votes than Republicans, and lost nine seats.

The Truth About 8216 The Republican Mandate 50 Percent More People Have Voted Democrat Since 2010 Americans Against the Tea Party

most importantly, our Founders were very very conservative and created the greatest country in human history by far while liberals opposed, spied for Hitler and Stalin, and elected Obama. Tell us dear are you a communist?
You're as nutty as they come, Fruitcake. :cuckoo:

Some of the founders were Liberal, some were Conservative, and some were in between.

if so tell us which ones were liberal by todays standards and what they did to demonstrate such.

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance? What other conclusion is possible? Tell us!!
"For the framers of the Constitution were the most liberal thinkers of all the ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought."
General Douglas MacArthur
But but but, they didnt outright abolish slavery

What is funny about liberals they will take credit for everything bad, well its not them, two face children

liberalism is treasonous in America given that it opposes the basic principles of America.

Can a liberal really take the oath of office where in he swears to preserve the Constitution?
 
The Truth About ‘The Republican Mandate': 50 Percent More People Have Voted Democrat Since 2010



According to a study conducted by FairVote, the 46 Democrats currently sitting in Senate have gotten 20.7 million more votes over the 2010, 2012 and 2014 elections than the 56 Republicans. Tallied up, that’s 67.8 million to Dems, and 47.1 million to Republicans. Or, to put it another way:

Democrats got a full 50 percent more votes than Republicans, and lost nine seats.

The Truth About 8216 The Republican Mandate 50 Percent More People Have Voted Democrat Since 2010 Americans Against the Tea Party

most importantly, our Founders were very very conservative and created the greatest country in human history by far while liberals opposed, spied for Hitler and Stalin, and elected Obama. Tell us dear are you a communist?
You're as nutty as they come, Fruitcake. :cuckoo:

Some of the founders were Liberal, some were Conservative, and some were in between.

if so tell us which ones were liberal by todays standards and what they did to demonstrate such.

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance? What other conclusion is possible? Tell us!!
"For the framers of the Constitution were the most liberal thinkers of all the ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought."
General Douglas MacArthur

if liberal means for freedom from big central govt then MacArthur is correct. Actually, he was using shorthand for trhe term "Classical Liberal."

Epstein’s most recent book, The Classical Liberal Constitution: The Uncertain Quest for Limited Government, seeks to explain and defend his theory of constitutional understanding.

Do you understand now??


Weird IF they disliked big Gov't, why didn't they stick with the Articles of Confederation? You know the thing closer to what conservatives want??? lol
 
Asked and answered.

dear, if you had a confuting answer you would be not be so afriad to show it off any number of times; if fact you would love showing it off all the time . What does your fear teach us?
That may be what your insanity tells you, but rationality dictates I don't repeat the same answer over and over again to the same question because it's asked over and over again by a fruitcake.
 
most importantly, our Founders were very very conservative and created the greatest country in human history by far while liberals opposed, spied for Hitler and Stalin, and elected Obama. Tell us dear are you a communist?
You're as nutty as they come, Fruitcake. :cuckoo:

Some of the founders were Liberal, some were Conservative, and some were in between.

if so tell us which ones were liberal by todays standards and what they did to demonstrate such.

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance? What other conclusion is possible? Tell us!!
"For the framers of the Constitution were the most liberal thinkers of all the ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought."
General Douglas MacArthur

if liberal means for freedom from big central govt then MacArthur is correct. Actually, he was using shorthand for trhe term "Classical Liberal."

Epstein’s most recent book, The Classical Liberal Constitution: The Uncertain Quest for Limited Government, seeks to explain and defend his theory of constitutional understanding.

Do you understand now??


Weird IF they disliked big Gov't, why didn't they stick with the Articles of Confederation? You know the thing closer to what conservatives want??? lol
The Articles of Confederation proved a small government is too ineffective and can't work.
 
The goal, most forcefully articulated by Hamilton,


dear Hamilton was a Federalist. He and his Party were driven out of govt by Republicans the moment it was realized they simply wanted to replace the central govt of England with the central govt of the USA.

Welcome to your first lesson in American Histlory, dumto3.

LOL, Learning history from YOU?
 
. Liberal means liberal according to common usage?

too stupid by 10000%. By common usage liberal means big govt. This is why liberals spied for Stalin and Hitler and elected Obama. By common usage our Founders were classical liberals or modern conservatives for very very limited govt.

Why do you think a gave you a book to read on that very subject???

Epstein’s most recent book, The Classical Liberal Constitution: The Uncertain Quest for Limited Government, seeks to explain and defend his theory of constitutional understanding.


The Founders believed in carefully delineated federal powers either broad (Hamilton) or limited (Jefferson, sometimes) but all believed in a more powerful state than libertarians purport to believe in. If ever there was a libertarian document it was the Articles of Confederation. There was no national power. The federal government could not tax. Its laws were not supreme over state laws. It was in fact, the hot mess that critics of libertarians believe their dream state would be… and it was recognized as such by the majority of the country and was why the Constitution was ratified. The Articles of Confederation is the true libertarian founding document and this explains the failure of libertarianism.

The Founders Were No Libertarians
 
Now why would anyone vote for a Republican? Not only do you not have any good ideas,

dear, the Republican idea is to make liberal unions illegal again, to eliminate corporate taxes, and to ship 20 million illegals home to create 40 million new jobs here with tremendous upward pressure on wages.

Isn't thinking fun?

Republicans have had three Presidents who served for 20 years and they didn't do any of those things. Republicans love the cheap labour the illegal immigrants provide and consistently refuse to levy fines or other punishment to employers who exploit this cheap labour pool.

Outlawing unions would violate the Freedom of Association provisions of the Constitution.

Reducing the U.S. population by 20 million would creat 40 million jobs?????? That's some wonky math you're using Eddie.

In reality, demand for consumer goods and services would decline because illegal immigrants buy food, clothing, cars, and other consumer goods. Government revenues would decline because they pay payroll taxes. And that is a key reason why more isn't done to get rid of illegal immigrants. They add a lot of money to government coffers - money that would be missed if they were all gone tomorrow.
 
Obama is a gangster, put in power by the Chicago mob. The crooked deals like Solyndra are designed to funnel billions in taxpayer money into the pockets of well connected crooks like Algore ($100 million in green cash)


Ya know, I hadn't heard that version of Obama Derangement Syndrome before.
Obama is a man of many colors and cohorts, isn't he?
He does it all and smirks at the same time.
What a thug.

OH MITTENS WHERE ART THOU MITTENS??
HOW COULD YOU LOSE
TO ATHUG FROM CHICAGO?

Drives you crazy just thinking about how the Republicans couldn't field any better candidates than they did.

I expect that really, the Republican party didn't really want the WH back until they had a Democrat President in the WH for eight years SO that the Republicans could then blame ALL of our debt on the Democrat.

And that's what Repubs are doing.

I think there will be a better candidate put froth this time around cause they WANT the Presidency this time.
After all, it's time for a Republican to **** things up again. You ever notice how nothing the Republicans try ever works out well for the working men and women?

Yeah, God forbid we have someone like Mitt Romney as our President! Why would we want someone who's repeatedly been successful at fixing broken organizations, understands economics, how to create jobs and has a history of working well across the aisle!

Why would we want someone who could do all that? We've got Barry!
 
You're as nutty as they come, Fruitcake. :cuckoo:

Some of the founders were Liberal, some were Conservative, and some were in between.

if so tell us which ones were liberal by todays standards and what they did to demonstrate such.

See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance? What other conclusion is possible? Tell us!!
"For the framers of the Constitution were the most liberal thinkers of all the ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought."
General Douglas MacArthur

if liberal means for freedom from big central govt then MacArthur is correct. Actually, he was using shorthand for trhe term "Classical Liberal."

Epstein’s most recent book, The Classical Liberal Constitution: The Uncertain Quest for Limited Government, seeks to explain and defend his theory of constitutional understanding.

Do you understand now??


Weird IF they disliked big Gov't, why didn't they stick with the Articles of Confederation? You know the thing closer to what conservatives want??? lol
The Articles of Confederation proved a small government is too ineffective and can't work.

No, they proved a government that does not have the power to carry out it's stated function won't work.
 
Now why would anyone vote for a Republican? Not only do you not have any good ideas,

dear, the Republican idea is to make liberal unions illegal again, to eliminate corporate taxes, and to ship 20 million illegals home to create 40 million new jobs here with tremendous upward pressure on wages.

Isn't thinking fun?

Republicans have had three Presidents who served for 20 years and they didn't do any of those things. Republicans love the cheap labour the illegal immigrants provide and consistently refuse to levy fines or other punishment to employers who exploit this cheap labour pool.

Outlawing unions would violate the Freedom of Association provisions of the Constitution.

Reducing the U.S. population by 20 million would creat 40 million jobs?????? That's some wonky math you're using Eddie.

In reality, demand for consumer goods and services would decline because illegal immigrants buy food, clothing, cars, and other consumer goods. Government revenues would decline because they pay payroll taxes. And that is a key reason why more isn't done to get rid of illegal immigrants. They add a lot of money to government coffers - money that would be missed if they were all gone tomorrow.

Is DailyKos issuing talking points ?

This some of the more oft repeated drivel from the left.
 
Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.



It is getting better.........for Democrats ONLY.

You lazy ass Republicans won't get off your asses and go to work. Get a job, things will get better if you work.
Notice it is ONLY you Republican who whine every day about how bad things are. Get a clue. Things are bad for you cause you are lazy.

So the economy is getting better. But taxes were not raised. How do you explain this?

I point out a simple fact, and you people can't answer a simple question.
 
Republicans only econonic solutions are deregulation and cutting taxes for corporations/the wealthy. Both of these methods do next to nothing to help the overall economy.

Regulations cost GDP 2% every year. Now even if you were irresponsible and stupid enough to undo ALL regulations for the sake of growth, you would only be boosting 2%. The growth of that is not nearly worth the chaos that would ensue.

Cutting taxes for corporations does jack shit for the economy in general. Stimuluating supply means dick if you don't stimuluate demand. The extra supply that is created does not meet any increase in demand. This means there is no increase in business just because a company has more to sell. Not only that, but cutting taxes only makes the government borrow more which means more debt. The proposed republican tax cuts would add 440 billion to our national debt.

The recent "experiment" failure in Kansas' economy and the pathetic job growth under Bush proves this.

See the republicans you people elect know this. They say they want to help you but in reality they only care about keeping the wealthy happy.

The reality is that the best way to stimulate economic growth is by stimulating the middle class. That is the driving force of our consumption based economy. Republicans have barely done anything for the middle class since Reagan.

Obama's stimulus created close to 3 million jobs. Why? Because it gave the middle class the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan. It also extended unemployment benefits for the millions who lost their jobs against their will. This allowed them to spend money they wouldn't have otherwise spent because they were unemployed.

This is what you call demand-side economics.


Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.

OK, so if it is getting better, he didn't do it by raising taxes. In fact he extended the "Bush Tax Cuts".

Then you turn around and complain about tax breaks for "corporations and the wealthy". So, did Obama makes these tax breaks? Or did the Republicans magically do these tax breaks without a super majority in Congress?

Zero honesty from cons. Shocking


Zero honesty?

Are liberals not claiming that the economy is better now under Obama?

Are you claiming that Obama did not in fact extend the Bush Tax cuts?
Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts - CBS News
 
Republicans only econonic solutions are deregulation and cutting taxes for corporations/the wealthy. Both of these methods do next to nothing to help the overall economy.

Regulations cost GDP 2% every year. Now even if you were irresponsible and stupid enough to undo ALL regulations for the sake of growth, you would only be boosting 2%. The growth of that is not nearly worth the chaos that would ensue.

Cutting taxes for corporations does jack shit for the economy in general. Stimuluating supply means dick if you don't stimuluate demand. The extra supply that is created does not meet any increase in demand. This means there is no increase in business just because a company has more to sell. Not only that, but cutting taxes only makes the government borrow more which means more debt. The proposed republican tax cuts would add 440 billion to our national debt.

The recent "experiment" failure in Kansas' economy and the pathetic job growth under Bush proves this.

See the republicans you people elect know this. They say they want to help you but in reality they only care about keeping the wealthy happy.

The reality is that the best way to stimulate economic growth is by stimulating the middle class. That is the driving force of our consumption based economy. Republicans have barely done anything for the middle class since Reagan.

Obama's stimulus created close to 3 million jobs. Why? Because it gave the middle class the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan. It also extended unemployment benefits for the millions who lost their jobs against their will. This allowed them to spend money they wouldn't have otherwise spent because they were unemployed.

This is what you call demand-side economics.


Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.

OK, so if it is getting better, he didn't do it by raising taxes. In fact he extended the "Bush Tax Cuts".

Then you turn around and complain about tax breaks for "corporations and the wealthy". So, did Obama makes these tax breaks? Or did the Republicans magically do these tax breaks without a super majority in Congress?

Zero honesty from cons. Shocking


Zero honesty?

Are liberals not claiming that the economy is better now under Obama?

Are you claiming that Obama did not in fact extend the Bush Tax cuts?
Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts - CBS News
Who the hell is denying Obama didn't extend Bush's tax cuts? Yeah no shit he did and he shouldn't have. They have added trillions to our national debt.

Oh and the economy is better. Do you even know what the unemployment rate is now in comparison to the end of 2008? Obviously not. You are also oblivious to the fact that the investment class and the stock market is doing better now more than ever.
 
Damn it you know how much interest we will have to pay it on the 85 billion a month the feds were pumping in ? So glad you like making stock brokers richer
 
Now why would anyone vote for a Republican? Not only do you not have any good ideas,

dear, the Republican idea is to make liberal unions illegal again, to eliminate corporate taxes, and to ship 20 million illegals home to create 40 million new jobs here with tremendous upward pressure on wages.

Isn't thinking fun?

Republicans have had three Presidents who served for 20 years and they didn't do any of those things. Republicans love the cheap labour the illegal immigrants provide and consistently refuse to levy fines or other punishment to employers who exploit this cheap labour pool.

Outlawing unions would violate the Freedom of Association provisions of the Constitution.

Reducing the U.S. population by 20 million would creat 40 million jobs?????? That's some wonky math you're using Eddie.

In reality, demand for consumer goods and services would decline because illegal immigrants buy food, clothing, cars, and other consumer goods. Government revenues would decline because they pay payroll taxes. And that is a key reason why more isn't done to get rid of illegal immigrants. They add a lot of money to government coffers - money that would be missed if they were all gone tomorrow.
Wait. Didnt you say Republicans dont want to enforce immigration laws? And then you wrote that enforcing immigration laws would be bad. Doesnt that mean you agree with Republicans who allegedly arent enforcing immigration laws, even though Obama has been president for 6 years and in charge of their enforcement?
Wait, what?
 
15th post
Republicans only econonic solutions are deregulation and cutting taxes for corporations/the wealthy. Both of these methods do next to nothing to help the overall economy.

Regulations cost GDP 2% every year. Now even if you were irresponsible and stupid enough to undo ALL regulations for the sake of growth, you would only be boosting 2%. The growth of that is not nearly worth the chaos that would ensue.

Cutting taxes for corporations does jack shit for the economy in general. Stimuluating supply means dick if you don't stimuluate demand. The extra supply that is created does not meet any increase in demand. This means there is no increase in business just because a company has more to sell. Not only that, but cutting taxes only makes the government borrow more which means more debt. The proposed republican tax cuts would add 440 billion to our national debt.

The recent "experiment" failure in Kansas' economy and the pathetic job growth under Bush proves this.

See the republicans you people elect know this. They say they want to help you but in reality they only care about keeping the wealthy happy.

The reality is that the best way to stimulate economic growth is by stimulating the middle class. That is the driving force of our consumption based economy. Republicans have barely done anything for the middle class since Reagan.

Obama's stimulus created close to 3 million jobs. Why? Because it gave the middle class the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan. It also extended unemployment benefits for the millions who lost their jobs against their will. This allowed them to spend money they wouldn't have otherwise spent because they were unemployed.

This is what you call demand-side economics.


Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.

OK, so if it is getting better, he didn't do it by raising taxes. In fact he extended the "Bush Tax Cuts".

Then you turn around and complain about tax breaks for "corporations and the wealthy". So, did Obama makes these tax breaks? Or did the Republicans magically do these tax breaks without a super majority in Congress?

Zero honesty from cons. Shocking


Zero honesty?

Are liberals not claiming that the economy is better now under Obama?

Are you claiming that Obama did not in fact extend the Bush Tax cuts?
Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts - CBS News
Who the hell is denying Obama didn't extend Bush's tax cuts? Yeah no shit he did and he shouldn't have. They have added trillions to our national debt.

Oh and the economy is better. Do you even know what the unemployment rate is now in comparison to the end of 2008? Obviously not. You are also oblivious to the fact that the investment class and the stock market is doing better now more than ever.
The investment class seems to be the only class that is doing well. Isnt that what you accuse Republicans of wanting all the time? Meanwhile the middle class has been sucking tit for 6 years. Why dont you care about the middle class, Billy Troll?
 
Republicans only econonic solutions are deregulation and cutting taxes for corporations/the wealthy. Both of these methods do next to nothing to help the overall economy.

Regulations cost GDP 2% every year. Now even if you were irresponsible and stupid enough to undo ALL regulations for the sake of growth, you would only be boosting 2%. The growth of that is not nearly worth the chaos that would ensue.

Cutting taxes for corporations does jack shit for the economy in general. Stimuluating supply means dick if you don't stimuluate demand. The extra supply that is created does not meet any increase in demand. This means there is no increase in business just because a company has more to sell. Not only that, but cutting taxes only makes the government borrow more which means more debt. The proposed republican tax cuts would add 440 billion to our national debt.

The recent "experiment" failure in Kansas' economy and the pathetic job growth under Bush proves this.

See the republicans you people elect know this. They say they want to help you but in reality they only care about keeping the wealthy happy.

The reality is that the best way to stimulate economic growth is by stimulating the middle class. That is the driving force of our consumption based economy. Republicans have barely done anything for the middle class since Reagan.

Obama's stimulus created close to 3 million jobs. Why? Because it gave the middle class the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan. It also extended unemployment benefits for the millions who lost their jobs against their will. This allowed them to spend money they wouldn't have otherwise spent because they were unemployed.

This is what you call demand-side economics.


Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.

OK, so if it is getting better, he didn't do it by raising taxes. In fact he extended the "Bush Tax Cuts".

Then you turn around and complain about tax breaks for "corporations and the wealthy". So, did Obama makes these tax breaks? Or did the Republicans magically do these tax breaks without a super majority in Congress?

Zero honesty from cons. Shocking


Zero honesty?

Are liberals not claiming that the economy is better now under Obama?

Are you claiming that Obama did not in fact extend the Bush Tax cuts?
Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts - CBS News

Oh wait, I thought Obama gave US thje largest tax increase EVER? Which is it? Were taxes increased or not? Yes, he increased taxes on the 'job creators' and also brought US from the below 15% (Korean war levels) of GDP in tax revenues to 17%+ this past fiscal year to an estimated 18%+ the fiscal year that started Oct 1, 2014!


Historical Source of Revenue as Share of GDP

I guess having regulators on the beat and good fiscal policy instead of putting EVERYTHING on the credit card and invading nations on false premises pays off in the long term?
 
Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.



It is getting better.........for Democrats ONLY.

You lazy ass Republicans won't get off your asses and go to work. Get a job, things will get better if you work.
Notice it is ONLY you Republican who whine every day about how bad things are. Get a clue. Things are bad for you cause you are lazy.

So the economy is getting better. But taxes were not raised. How do you explain this?

I point out a simple fact, and you people can't answer a simple question.

The fact that Obama got US more revenues on the 'job creators'? Yes, and has said we needs more to go back to the fiscal position Clinton put US in where we had 20% of GDP in revenues, something the US hadn't seen since Carter's days? lol

Taxes were cut under Dubya and the economy tanked. Was there a correlation Bubba? lol
 
Republicans only econonic solutions are deregulation and cutting taxes for corporations/the wealthy. Both of these methods do next to nothing to help the overall economy.

Regulations cost GDP 2% every year. Now even if you were irresponsible and stupid enough to undo ALL regulations for the sake of growth, you would only be boosting 2%. The growth of that is not nearly worth the chaos that would ensue.

Cutting taxes for corporations does jack shit for the economy in general. Stimuluating supply means dick if you don't stimuluate demand. The extra supply that is created does not meet any increase in demand. This means there is no increase in business just because a company has more to sell. Not only that, but cutting taxes only makes the government borrow more which means more debt. The proposed republican tax cuts would add 440 billion to our national debt.

The recent "experiment" failure in Kansas' economy and the pathetic job growth under Bush proves this.

See the republicans you people elect know this. They say they want to help you but in reality they only care about keeping the wealthy happy.

The reality is that the best way to stimulate economic growth is by stimulating the middle class. That is the driving force of our consumption based economy. Republicans have barely done anything for the middle class since Reagan.

Obama's stimulus created close to 3 million jobs. Why? Because it gave the middle class the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan. It also extended unemployment benefits for the millions who lost their jobs against their will. This allowed them to spend money they wouldn't have otherwise spent because they were unemployed.

This is what you call demand-side economics.


Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.

OK, so if it is getting better, he didn't do it by raising taxes. In fact he extended the "Bush Tax Cuts".

Then you turn around and complain about tax breaks for "corporations and the wealthy". So, did Obama makes these tax breaks? Or did the Republicans magically do these tax breaks without a super majority in Congress?

Zero honesty from cons. Shocking


Zero honesty?

Are liberals not claiming that the economy is better now under Obama?

Are you claiming that Obama did not in fact extend the Bush Tax cuts?
Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts - CBS News
Who the hell is denying Obama didn't extend Bush's tax cuts? Yeah no shit he did and he shouldn't have. They have added trillions to our national debt.

Oh and the economy is better. Do you even know what the unemployment rate is now in comparison to the end of 2008? Obviously not. You are also oblivious to the fact that the investment class and the stock market is doing better now more than ever.
The investment class seems to be the only class that is doing well. Isnt that what you accuse Republicans of wanting all the time? Meanwhile the middle class has been sucking tit for 6 years. Why dont you care about the middle class, Billy Troll?

Yes, 30+ years of Reaganomics then 8 years of Bushanomics REALLY hurt the bottom 90% of US, weird you don't recognize the destruction the GOP policies put on the middle class. I guess another tax cut would fix it right?

IT'S THE DEPTH OF THE HOLE THE GOP DUG FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS THAT PUT THEM THERE. Allowing tthe nation to spend more (BORROW) in 2007 than they actually made, first time EVER in history. I guess Dubya's allowing Banksters to run America on credit for 7+ years has no consequences right?


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