Republicans have a poor understanding of economics. They should have no place in making policy

So there are those like you who are ok with using slave labor (via illegals) to build their fortune.

Then again what does a programmed far left drone know about anything connected to reality?



Speaking of having a problem with reality. Now you think I have a fortune and I used slaves to get it?
You are a strange individual Kosh. Evidently jealous as well.

Get off your ass and get a job and make something of yourself instead of whining on a message board.
******* lazy Republicans.

No just pointing out what you brag about when using slave labor, including your use of over priced Apple products (which uses Chinese slave labor) as a symbol of status.

More proof why the far left religion is the most dangerous religion on the planet..
 
The percentage of people in workforce is declining because Boomers are retiring. This has been predicted for decades with much doom and gloom. Once we (I'm a Boomer) are all retired, the percentage of people working will be the lowest in history.

But idiot conservatives blame Obama because they blame Obama fit everything. 30% of Americans blame Obama for the government response to Katrina.
 
No just pointing out what you brag about when using slave labor, including your use of over priced Apple products (which uses Chinese slave labor) as a symbol of status.

More proof why the far left religion is the most dangerous religion on the planet..


Don't know if anyone has pointed this out to you Kosh. But you are ******* insane. I hope you are not a danger to others. Talk to your doctor. See if he can increase the meds or something.
 
[QUOTE="Dragonlady, post: 10491809, member: 41417"]30% of Americans blame Obama for the government response to Katrina.[/QUOTE]


And they ALL call themselves Republicans.
 
No just pointing out what you brag about when using slave labor, including your use of over priced Apple products (which uses Chinese slave labor) as a symbol of status.

More proof why the far left religion is the most dangerous religion on the planet..


Don't know if anyone has pointed this out to you Kosh. But you are ******* insane. I hope you are not a danger to others. Talk to your doctor. See if he can increase the meds or something.

Once again the far left shows how disconnected from reality they are.

They use slave labor, yet want to criticize others. The far left has shown they do not understand economics, much less shown they live in reality.
 
[QUOTE="Dragonlady, post: 10491809, member: 41417"]30% of Americans blame Obama for the government response to Katrina.


And they ALL call themselves Republicans.[/QUOTE]


Another far left post proving they are not connected to reality.
 
Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.



It is getting better.........for Democrats ONLY.

You lazy ass Republicans won't get off your asses and go to work. Get a job, things will get better if you work.
Notice it is ONLY you Republican who whine every day about how bad things are. Get a clue. Things are bad for you cause you are lazy.

So the economy is getting better. But taxes were not raised. How do you explain this?

I point out a simple fact, and you people can't answer a simple question.

Congress raises taxes, not the President or the Senate and Congress is controlled by Republicans. No one answered your question because it's a stupid question.

Hey idiot, Congress is the House and Senate combined. Laws they pass are signed or vetoed by the President, who is Presiding over Congress. A Congress can only pass laws without consent of the President with a super majority (veto overwrite).

I guess you ignored the link I showed earlier of President Obama signing into law the extention of the "Bush Tax Cuts".

I guess your just following your programming, and can't acknowledge facts that dispute your Agenda.
 
Who the hell is denying Obama didn't extend Bush's tax cuts? Yeah no shit he did and he shouldn't have. They have added trillions to our national debt.

Oh and the economy is better. Do you even know what the unemployment rate is now in comparison to the end of 2008? Obviously not. You are also oblivious to the fact that the investment class and the stock market is doing better now more than ever.


So you can admit that the economy is getting better, and we didn't raise income taxes.

yes, I can see that the economy is finally starting to get better. I think now that businesses see the end of the Obama regime and that he is a total Lame Duck prez now, it will continue to get better.
Lol oh really? Businesses just now are picking up? Don't be dumb. We've had consistent private sector job growth since 6 months into Obama's presidency.


Wrong again.

The workforce participation rate, which was at historic highs under Bush, has constantly gone down since Obama took office. It is STILL at and a low of 62.8% as of the end of 2014. Bush had 66+% his entire time, only started going downhill after he became a lame duck and Dems took over Congress in 2007.

The Truth hurts: Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


Do we even need to mention all percentage of people on welfare under Obama?

The only way unemployment rates went "down" under Obama is when those people LEFT the workforce and STOPPED looking for a job.

But you people cannot acknowledge that those facts, your programming won't allow it.
Historic high huh? Obviously that was before the 08 crash. That means it was declining before Obama took office. Either way it wouldn't change the fact that 11 million jobs have been created since Obama's presidency began. 3 million of those came directly from his stimulus package.


If so many jobs were created, why are there so many people still out of the workforce? Don't forget there has been a lot of population growth as well over 10 years, which is why percentage of the population in the workforce is more accurate.
Well gee the unemployment rate speaks for itself. Also, the labor participation has to do with baby boomers and more people going on disability - not just discouragement.
 
Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.

OK, so if it is getting better, he didn't do it by raising taxes. In fact he extended the "Bush Tax Cuts".

Then you turn around and complain about tax breaks for "corporations and the wealthy". So, did Obama makes these tax breaks? Or did the Republicans magically do these tax breaks without a super majority in Congress?

Zero honesty from cons. Shocking


Zero honesty?

Are liberals not claiming that the economy is better now under Obama?

Are you claiming that Obama did not in fact extend the Bush Tax cuts?
Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts - CBS News
Who the hell is denying Obama didn't extend Bush's tax cuts? Yeah no shit he did and he shouldn't have. They have added trillions to our national debt.

Oh and the economy is better. Do you even know what the unemployment rate is now in comparison to the end of 2008? Obviously not. You are also oblivious to the fact that the investment class and the stock market is doing better now more than ever.


So you can admit that the economy is getting better, and we didn't raise income taxes.

yes, I can see that the economy is finally starting to get better. I think now that businesses see the end of the Obama regime and that he is a total Lame Duck prez now, it will continue to get better.
Lol oh really? Businesses just now are picking up? Don't be dumb. We've had consistent private sector job growth since 6 months into Obama's presidency.

LOL...we've had consistently TEPID job growth since Obama took office. Considering the non-stop quantitative easing that the Fed has done and the trillions that we've spent in stimulus plans that didn't stimulate job creation, that's hardly something to brag about! This is the worst recovery from a recession since the Great Depression...and a major part of why that's happened is Barry's policies. He either doesn't "get" economic theory or he doesn't care about it. Who would pass legislation that they knew was going to hurt job creation when unemployment was through the roof? You'd have to be an idiot or you simply don't give a shit about the people who were out of work.
 
Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.

OK, so if it is getting better, he didn't do it by raising taxes. In fact he extended the "Bush Tax Cuts".

Then you turn around and complain about tax breaks for "corporations and the wealthy". So, did Obama makes these tax breaks? Or did the Republicans magically do these tax breaks without a super majority in Congress?

Zero honesty from cons. Shocking


Zero honesty?

Are liberals not claiming that the economy is better now under Obama?

Are you claiming that Obama did not in fact extend the Bush Tax cuts?
Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts - CBS News
Who the hell is denying Obama didn't extend Bush's tax cuts? Yeah no shit he did and he shouldn't have. They have added trillions to our national debt.

Oh and the economy is better. Do you even know what the unemployment rate is now in comparison to the end of 2008? Obviously not. You are also oblivious to the fact that the investment class and the stock market is doing better now more than ever.


So you can admit that the economy is getting better, and we didn't raise income taxes.

yes, I can see that the economy is finally starting to get better. I think now that businesses see the end of the Obama regime and that he is a total Lame Duck prez now, it will continue to get better.
Lol oh really? Businesses just now are picking up? Don't be dumb. We've had consistent private sector job growth since 6 months into Obama's presidency.

Would you care to point to a single Obama initiative that's created those jobs in the private sector, Billy? The thing that's leading the surge in the economy right now is gas and oil production. Our fearless leader has done everything he could possibly do to hamper the production of fossil fuels...so obviously the jobs created there aren't his to claim! The truth of the matter is that they were created DESPITE Barack Obama!
 
I had to laugh when during the last election campaign when Barry claimed increased gas and oil production during his Presidency as a "success" of his Administration. He's the guy who was telling us we needed $6 a gallon gasoline so that we could break away from our dependency on oil.
 
Bet you he, Al bore, Tom styere (or what ever that wacko billionaire name is ) is throwing a tantrum that oil continues to drop
 
The drop in gas prices is putting a massive amount of money in the pockets of Americans to be spent on other things. Rest assured that Barry will lay claim to any economic benefits from that as well even though low gas prices go completely counter to what he wanted. Anyone want to wager how long it's going to be before a liberal calls for a big bump in the gas tax?
 
So you can admit that the economy is getting better, and we didn't raise income taxes.

yes, I can see that the economy is finally starting to get better. I think now that businesses see the end of the Obama regime and that he is a total Lame Duck prez now, it will continue to get better.
Lol oh really? Businesses just now are picking up? Don't be dumb. We've had consistent private sector job growth since 6 months into Obama's presidency.


Wrong again.

The workforce participation rate, which was at historic highs under Bush, has constantly gone down since Obama took office. It is STILL at and a low of 62.8% as of the end of 2014. Bush had 66+% his entire time, only started going downhill after he became a lame duck and Dems took over Congress in 2007.

The Truth hurts: Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


Do we even need to mention all percentage of people on welfare under Obama?

The only way unemployment rates went "down" under Obama is when those people LEFT the workforce and STOPPED looking for a job.

But you people cannot acknowledge that those facts, your programming won't allow it.
Historic high huh? Obviously that was before the 08 crash. That means it was declining before Obama took office. Either way it wouldn't change the fact that 11 million jobs have been created since Obama's presidency began. 3 million of those came directly from his stimulus package.


If so many jobs were created, why are there so many people still out of the workforce? Don't forget there has been a lot of population growth as well over 10 years, which is why percentage of the population in the workforce is more accurate.
Well gee the unemployment rate speaks for itself. Also, the labor participation has to do with baby boomers and more people going on disability - not just discouragement.

The national median age has not gone up significantly over the last ten years. The excuse of the baby boomers retiring is total BS. We have had a surge in young people with immigration to offset retiring people.

When people drop out of looking for a job because they cannot find one, that is due to discouragement, not some fantasy jobs bill Obama passed.

Did all those baby boomers go on welfare as well? Is that why welfare is at record highs too? Lol
 
The drop in gas prices is putting a massive amount of money in the pockets of Americans to be spent on other things. Rest assured that Barry will lay claim to any economic benefits from that as well even though low gas prices go completely counter to what he wanted. Anyone want to wager how long it's going to be before a liberal calls for a big bump in the gas tax?
I've already seen a few leftist media news stories about how low gas prices are bad for the economy. The lefties can't stand it.
 
Historic high huh? Obviously that was before the 08 crash. That means it was declining before Obama took office. Either way it wouldn't change the fact that 11 million jobs have been created since Obama's presidency began. 3 million of those came directly from his stimulus package.

Still, Real GDP has just now reached the growth rate of Q4 2007, and per capita GDP still lags that.

You can piss into a fan and claim it's raining, but don't expect rational people to go along with you.
 
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Republicans only econonic solutions are deregulation and cutting taxes for corporations/the wealthy. Both of these methods do next to nothing to help the overall economy.

Regulations cost GDP 2% every year. Now even if you were irresponsible and stupid enough to undo ALL regulations for the sake of growth, you would only be boosting 2%. The growth of that is not nearly worth the chaos that would ensue.

Cutting taxes for corporations does jack shit for the economy in general. Stimuluating supply means dick if you don't stimuluate demand. The extra supply that is created does not meet any increase in demand. This means there is no increase in business just because a company has more to sell. Not only that, but cutting taxes only makes the government borrow more which means more debt. The proposed republican tax cuts would add 440 billion to our national debt.

The recent "experiment" failure in Kansas' economy and the pathetic job growth under Bush proves this.

See the republicans you people elect know this. They say they want to help you but in reality they only care about keeping the wealthy happy.

The reality is that the best way to stimulate economic growth is by stimulating the middle class. That is the driving force of our consumption based economy. Republicans have barely done anything for the middle class since Reagan.

Obama's stimulus created close to 3 million jobs. Why? Because it gave the middle class the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan. It also extended unemployment benefits for the millions who lost their jobs against their will. This allowed them to spend money they wouldn't have otherwise spent because they were unemployed.

This is what you call demand-side economics.


Its so hilarious that you liberals decry that the economy is getting better than Obama.

OK, so if it is getting better, he didn't do it by raising taxes. In fact he extended the "Bush Tax Cuts".

Then you turn around and complain about tax breaks for "corporations and the wealthy". So, did Obama makes these tax breaks? Or did the Republicans magically do these tax breaks without a super majority in Congress?

Zero honesty from cons. Shocking


Zero honesty?

Are liberals not claiming that the economy is better now under Obama?

Are you claiming that Obama did not in fact extend the Bush Tax cuts?
Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts - CBS News
Who the hell is denying Obama didn't extend Bush's tax cuts? Yeah no shit he did and he shouldn't have. They have added trillions to our national debt.

Oh and the economy is better. Do you even know what the unemployment rate is now in comparison to the end of 2008? Obviously not. You are also oblivious to the fact that the investment class and the stock market is doing better now more than ever.


So you can admit that the economy is getting better, and we didn't raise income taxes.

yes, I can see that the economy is finally starting to get better. I think now that businesses see the end of the Obama regime and that he is a total Lame Duck prez now, it will continue to get better.
Taxes weren't raised? On what planet have you been on for the last two years??

13 Tax Increases That Started January 1, 2013

Your resignation is duly noted.
 
The only one who don't know the working class didn't get a tax increase are the ones who don't earn a paycheck or to dumb to bother read a pay stub
 
Historic high huh? Obviously that was before the 08 crash. That means it was declining before Obama took office. Either way it wouldn't change the fact that 11 million jobs have been created since Obama's presidency began. 3 million of those came directly from his stimulus package.

Still, Real GDP has just now reached the growth rate of Q4 2007, and per capita GDP still lags that.

You can piss into a fan and claim it's raining, but don't expect rational people to go along with you.


"growth rate of Q4 2007"

Ah the first and only year recorded in US history where the US spent (credit) more than the US made in ALL income! Typical right wing economy...


Bubbles built on ponzi schemes will allow that 'growth' Bubba
 

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