Republicans have a poor understanding of economics. They should have no place in making policy

Sad isn't it that more and more people become worth less and less every year?

Again, idiot. The fact that you are only worth $6.50/hour is because your only skill is flipping burgers. That is NOT Walmart's fault.


WORTH? lol

"The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it." Thomas Jefferson


"Unhappy events abroad have retaught us two simple truths about the liberty of a democratic people.

The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any other controlling private power.

The second truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if its business system does not provide employment and produce and distribute goods in such a way as to sustain an acceptable standard of living. Both lessons hit home. Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing."

- FDR - Simple Truths message to Congress (April 29, 1938).
No danger of that happening with Progressives in power...
The standard of living seems to be acceptable to the employees of Walmart, McDonald's Burger King etc. If it weren't, they would me sufficiently motivated to get the training and education necessary to promote themselves into a higher paid position.

Again, Walmart didn't make you drop out of school. Walmart didn't force you to refuse to learn marketable skills, but since you did, they will pay you what you are worth, just like you will continue to shop where you get the best value for your dollar.


Progressives in power? LMAOROG

Weird, the US under PROGRESSIVE policies created the worlds largest middle class. Of course under GOP's assault the past 30+ years it's shrunk by 10%.

How much has the Middle Class shrunk under the leadership of Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi?
But that's Bushs faut!


Come on Bubba, we ALL know Dubya, in conservatives minds, policy and decisions made Jan 20th 2001 Jan 20th 2009 ended the moment Obama was sworn in. It stopped on a dime. All those bad choices (UNFUNDED wars, UNFUNDED tax cuts, UNFUNDED Medicare expansion, IGNORING REGULATOR WARNINGS AND CHEERING ON THE BANKSTER PONZI SCHEME, ETC), stopped the day he left office
 
Sad isn't it that more and more people become worth less and less every year?

Again, idiot. The fact that you are only worth $6.50/hour is because your only skill is flipping burgers. That is NOT Walmart's fault.


WORTH? lol

"The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it." Thomas Jefferson


"Unhappy events abroad have retaught us two simple truths about the liberty of a democratic people.

The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any other controlling private power.

The second truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if its business system does not provide employment and produce and distribute goods in such a way as to sustain an acceptable standard of living. Both lessons hit home. Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing."

- FDR - Simple Truths message to Congress (April 29, 1938).
No danger of that happening with Progressives in power...
The standard of living seems to be acceptable to the employees of Walmart, McDonald's Burger King etc. If it weren't, they would me sufficiently motivated to get the training and education necessary to promote themselves into a higher paid position.

Again, Walmart didn't make you drop out of school. Walmart didn't force you to refuse to learn marketable skills, but since you did, they will pay you what you are worth, just like you will continue to shop where you get the best value for your dollar.


Progressives in power? LMAOROG

Weird, the US under PROGRESSIVE policies created the worlds largest middle class. Of course under GOP's assault the past 30+ years it's shrunk by 10%.

How much has the Middle Class shrunk under the leadership of Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi?

Weird you think an economy turns on a dime? PLEASE list the things that caused the middle class to 'lose' because of their policies, and PLEASE be specific?

Turns on a dime? Wow, we're past year six now, Sparky and the Middle Class is STILL languishing under Barack Obama's "leadership". Now they're going to be hit with the true costs of ObamaCare! Just when should we expect progressive policies to kick in, Dad?
 
CORPORATIONS BENEFITING FROM PAYING AMONG THE LOWEST EFFECTIVE TAX RATES IN THE WORLD IN THE US!!!

That's awful! What is WalMart's effective rate?
What should they pay?


Can Walmart ship their stores offshore?

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 27.3%
2010 . . . 8.9%

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of GDP

1955 . . . 4.3%
2010 . . . 1.3%

Individual Income/Payrolls as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 58.0%
2010 . . . 81.5%

Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High

'corporate profits are at an all-time high as a percentage of the economy, wages are at an all-time low.'

'Last year, corporations made a record $824 billion, which didn’t stop conservatives from continually claiming that President Obama is anti-business.'
Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High ThinkProgress

The fortunate 400

400 tax returns reporting the highest incomes in 2009.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.
another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes.
The fortunate 400 David Cay Johnston Reuters

Can Walmart ship their stores offshore?


They do have stores in other countries.
So what was their effective tax rate?
What should it be?


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

If they lost $300 million in 2008, how much should they pay in 2009?

Got it, you can't be honest.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

If they lost $300 million in 2008, how much should they pay in 2009?

False premises, distortions and LIES the ONLY thing right wingers EVER have., Shocking

What is your explanation for their $200 million in earnings and their $0 tax payments?
 
Perhaps we should try dropping our highest in the world corporate tax rate?

Why? No one who can move their Biz pays it anyways!

Perhaps we should try dropping our highest in the world corporate tax rate?

Why? No one who can move their Biz pays it anyways!

That doesn't make sense, you said we have the lowest effective tax in the world.
So which one of your claims is wrong?


So you don't understand Biz or taxes. Shocking. A Biz that CAN move offshore has MANY, MANY loopholes (the reason for the overall 12% EFFECTIVE Corp tax rate), where comps like Walmart, McD's, etc that can't, pay closer to the 35%.

Next stupid question Bubba?

where comps like Walmart, McD's, etc that can't, pay closer to the 35%.


Hmmmm.....maybe we should lower our highest in the world corporate tax rate?


OK one hit wonder, WHY? If those Corps can't move offshore AND the one who can pay a MUCH smaller (EDIT: ALL CORPS AVG 12% EFFECTIVE rate) tax burden??? lol


OK one hit wonder, WHY?

Why would we want to reduce taxes on corps that can't move offshore? Really? LOL!
If they can't move, we should raise their rate. What could go wrong? LOL!
 
WORTH? lol

"The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it." Thomas Jefferson


"Unhappy events abroad have retaught us two simple truths about the liberty of a democratic people.

The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any other controlling private power.

The second truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if its business system does not provide employment and produce and distribute goods in such a way as to sustain an acceptable standard of living. Both lessons hit home. Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing."

- FDR - Simple Truths message to Congress (April 29, 1938).
No danger of that happening with Progressives in power...
The standard of living seems to be acceptable to the employees of Walmart, McDonald's Burger King etc. If it weren't, they would me sufficiently motivated to get the training and education necessary to promote themselves into a higher paid position.

Again, Walmart didn't make you drop out of school. Walmart didn't force you to refuse to learn marketable skills, but since you did, they will pay you what you are worth, just like you will continue to shop where you get the best value for your dollar.


Progressives in power? LMAOROG

Weird, the US under PROGRESSIVE policies created the worlds largest middle class. Of course under GOP's assault the past 30+ years it's shrunk by 10%.

How much has the Middle Class shrunk under the leadership of Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi?

Weird you think an economy turns on a dime? PLEASE list the things that caused the middle class to 'lose' because of their policies, and PLEASE be specific?

Turns on a dime? Wow, we're past year six now, Sparky and the Middle Class is STILL languishing under Barack Obama's "leadership". Now they're going to be hit with the true costs of ObamaCare! Just when should we expect progressive policies to kick in, Dad?


Yes, Dubya/GOP 'job creator' policies put US in a HUGE hole Bubba, Thankfully after losing 1+ million PRIVATE sector jobs in Dubya's 8 years (and 4+ million in 2009), Obama has had US creating 5+ million NET jobs in his 6 years! _

Obamacares? Oh right the next thing Dems gave US the folks will be thanking US for, like SS, Medicare, min wage, labor laws, etc that the GOP fought!
 
Why? No one who can move their Biz pays it anyways!

Perhaps we should try dropping our highest in the world corporate tax rate?

Why? No one who can move their Biz pays it anyways!

That doesn't make sense, you said we have the lowest effective tax in the world.
So which one of your claims is wrong?


So you don't understand Biz or taxes. Shocking. A Biz that CAN move offshore has MANY, MANY loopholes (the reason for the overall 12% EFFECTIVE Corp tax rate), where comps like Walmart, McD's, etc that can't, pay closer to the 35%.

Next stupid question Bubba?

where comps like Walmart, McD's, etc that can't, pay closer to the 35%.


Hmmmm.....maybe we should lower our highest in the world corporate tax rate?


OK one hit wonder, WHY? If those Corps can't move offshore AND the one who can pay a MUCH smaller (EDIT: ALL CORPS AVG 12% EFFECTIVE rate) tax burden??? lol


OK one hit wonder, WHY?

Why would we want to reduce taxes on corps that can't move offshore? Really? LOL!
If they can't move, we should raise their rate. What could go wrong? LOL!

Poor babies, they can't afford it? You realize they ONLY pay taxes when they profit right? lol
 
Can Walmart ship their stores offshore?

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 27.3%
2010 . . . 8.9%

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of GDP

1955 . . . 4.3%
2010 . . . 1.3%

Individual Income/Payrolls as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 58.0%
2010 . . . 81.5%

Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High

'corporate profits are at an all-time high as a percentage of the economy, wages are at an all-time low.'

'Last year, corporations made a record $824 billion, which didn’t stop conservatives from continually claiming that President Obama is anti-business.'
Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High ThinkProgress

The fortunate 400

400 tax returns reporting the highest incomes in 2009.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.
another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes.
The fortunate 400 David Cay Johnston Reuters

Can Walmart ship their stores offshore?


They do have stores in other countries.
So what was their effective tax rate?
What should it be?


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

If they lost $300 million in 2008, how much should they pay in 2009?

Got it, you can't be honest.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

If they lost $300 million in 2008, how much should they pay in 2009?

False premises, distortions and LIES the ONLY thing right wingers EVER have., Shocking

What is your explanation for their $200 million in earnings and their $0 tax payments?


I Didn't say that Bubba, AGAIN

"False premises, distortions and LIES the ONLY thing right wingers EVER have., Shocking"
 
Perhaps we should try dropping our highest in the world corporate tax rate?

Why? No one who can move their Biz pays it anyways!

That doesn't make sense, you said we have the lowest effective tax in the world.
So which one of your claims is wrong?


So you don't understand Biz or taxes. Shocking. A Biz that CAN move offshore has MANY, MANY loopholes (the reason for the overall 12% EFFECTIVE Corp tax rate), where comps like Walmart, McD's, etc that can't, pay closer to the 35%.

Next stupid question Bubba?

where comps like Walmart, McD's, etc that can't, pay closer to the 35%.


Hmmmm.....maybe we should lower our highest in the world corporate tax rate?


OK one hit wonder, WHY? If those Corps can't move offshore AND the one who can pay a MUCH smaller (EDIT: ALL CORPS AVG 12% EFFECTIVE rate) tax burden??? lol


OK one hit wonder, WHY?

Why would we want to reduce taxes on corps that can't move offshore? Really? LOL!
If they can't move, we should raise their rate. What could go wrong? LOL!

Poor babies, they can't afford it? You realize they ONLY pay taxes when they profit right? lol

Poor babies, they can't afford it?

Can't afford what? 50%? 60%? 100%? LOL!

I'm sure a higher rate would incentivize more business creation, more hiring.
 

Can Walmart ship their stores offshore?


They do have stores in other countries.
So what was their effective tax rate?
What should it be?


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

If they lost $300 million in 2008, how much should they pay in 2009?

Got it, you can't be honest.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

If they lost $300 million in 2008, how much should they pay in 2009?

False premises, distortions and LIES the ONLY thing right wingers EVER have., Shocking

What is your explanation for their $200 million in earnings and their $0 tax payments?


I Didn't say that Bubba, AGAIN

"False premises, distortions and LIES the ONLY thing right wingers EVER have., Shocking"

You didn't say why they paid $0?
So why don't you say it now?
Were they friends of Obama?
 
No danger of that happening with Progressives in power...
The standard of living seems to be acceptable to the employees of Walmart, McDonald's Burger King etc. If it weren't, they would me sufficiently motivated to get the training and education necessary to promote themselves into a higher paid position.

Again, Walmart didn't make you drop out of school. Walmart didn't force you to refuse to learn marketable skills, but since you did, they will pay you what you are worth, just like you will continue to shop where you get the best value for your dollar.


Progressives in power? LMAOROG

Weird, the US under PROGRESSIVE policies created the worlds largest middle class. Of course under GOP's assault the past 30+ years it's shrunk by 10%.

How much has the Middle Class shrunk under the leadership of Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi?

Weird you think an economy turns on a dime? PLEASE list the things that caused the middle class to 'lose' because of their policies, and PLEASE be specific?

Turns on a dime? Wow, we're past year six now, Sparky and the Middle Class is STILL languishing under Barack Obama's "leadership". Now they're going to be hit with the true costs of ObamaCare! Just when should we expect progressive policies to kick in, Dad?


Yes, Dubya/GOP 'job creator' policies put US in a HUGE hole Bubba, Thankfully after losing 1+ million PRIVATE sector jobs in Dubya's 8 years (and 4+ million in 2009), Obama has had US creating 5+ million NET jobs in his 6 years! _

Obamacares? Oh right the next thing Dems gave US the folks will be thanking US for, like SS, Medicare, min wage, labor laws, etc that the GOP fought!

Anyone with an unbiased perspective and a little historical knowledge would know that recessions are ALWAYS followed by recoveries. The fact that we DID lose 4 million jobs in 2009 should have had us expecting those numbers to rebound strongly coming out of the recession. Instead we had what is referred to as a "jobless recovery". The reason for that jobless recovery is first and foremost a lack of a viable plan to create sustainable jobs by this Administration. Instead of concentrating on legislation that would have put Americans back to work...Barack Obama went for the ACA...legislation that dampened the creation of jobs. His almost two trillion dollar stimulus was so badly implemented that his economic people were forced to come up with a new economic statistic to hide how few jobs they actually created...thus the "jobs created or saved" statistic that was born.
 
The fact that we DID lose 4 million jobs in 2009 should have had us expecting those numbers to rebound strongly coming out of the recession.


LMAO. Sure dude. SO what else was lost during that same time frame the 4 million jobs were lost. Lets see.
People lost their homes. Yep, you may have heard something about all those foreclosures. But then again, maybe not.

What else. Well people who lost their jobs took out their retirement savings to live on. That is if they hadn't lost every bit of money they had bailing out of the markets when they collapsed. Did you read anything about the stock market collapse when Bush was still Pres? The outflow of money from the 401k and IRA's.

Of course all those home owners that didn't lose their homes, lost all the equity in their homes. Maybe you heard something about that? And many are still underwater on their mortgages. Yep, being under water on your mortgage sure makes you want to spend money.

When those that lost their jobs finally found work, the new job pays less than the old one. Yep that's a problem (lower earnings) when you want an economic recovery.

So people lost income, lost value in hard assets, lost money in semi liquid assets and you think that we should have rebounded much more strongly. And that somehow, all the money and equity and jobs that people lost is Obama's fault.

That's kinda strange thinking. How did Obama cause all that loss?
 
The fact that we DID lose 4 million jobs in 2009 should have had us expecting those numbers to rebound strongly coming out of the recession.


LMAO. Sure dude. SO what else was lost during that same time frame the 4 million jobs were lost. Lets see.
People lost their homes. Yep, you may have heard something about all those foreclosures. But then again, maybe not.

What else. Well people who lost their jobs took out their retirement savings to live on. That is if they hadn't lost every bit of money they had bailing out of the markets when they collapsed. Did you read anything about the stock market collapse when Bush was still Pres? The outflow of money from the 401k and IRA's.

Of course all those home owners that didn't lose their homes, lost all the equity in their homes. Maybe you heard something about that? And many are still underwater on their mortgages. Yep, being under water on your mortgage sure makes you want to spend money.

When those that lost their jobs finally found work, the new job pays less than the old one. Yep that's a problem (lower earnings) when you want an economic recovery.

So people lost income, lost value in hard assets, lost money in semi liquid assets and you think that we should have rebounded much more strongly. And that somehow, all the money and equity and jobs that people lost is Obama's fault.

That's kinda strange thinking. How did Obama cause all that loss?
Actually, Zeke, if you put the beer down and read you would know that generallystronger recessions produce stronger recoveries. This is part of the business cycle, something a bar tender may have mentioned to you once.
Obama destroyed the business cycle with his unconstititional actions in bankruptcy and his absurd worthless programs.
 
Actually, Zeke, if you put the beer down and read you would know that generallystronger recessions produce stronger recoveries. This is part of the business cycle, something a bar tender may have mentioned to you once.



Tell you what their rabbit. But first. Did you get someone to explain your TIL to you yet? I ain't doing it dude.

How long did it take for a full recovery after the Great Depression?

Seeing as how our Great Recession was compared to the Great Depression, even to the point where people wondered if the Great Recession could become worse than the Great Depression, and considering the amount of jobs, income and assets that were lost, I don't think this recovery is going so slow at all. In case you missed it, a lot of the jobs that were lost went out of country. And they ain't coming back. Again, the replacement jobs have not paid as much as the jobs lost. That's a problem for a recovery. It isn't like people were laid off a 25 dollar an hour job and then called back to work. Their jobs were gone. The new jobs pay half as much, for example.

So I have read that the Great Depression wasn't fully recovered from until the start of WWII. It took a considerable amount of time to recover and that was with the government creating jobs along the way, so why wouldn't it take close to the same time frame again to fully recover?
 
if you put the beer down and read you would know that generallystronger recessions produce stronger recoveries.


And if you had any common sense you would admit that our previous recessions did not come with the same amount of permanent job loss. When the jobs are gone, you can't call the workers back to work. And without jobs it's kinda hard to have a recovery. Weak or strong.
 
15th post
You really don't understand how businesses are run, do you? Walmart operates on a 3% profit margin; minuscule in American business, yet it's their fault people are poor.

If you dropped out of high school when you got knocked up or arrested for selling dope and have learned no marketable skills, you are worth very little in the labor market. Just about anyone can put boxes on a shelf or move items past a scanner and count out change that a cash register computes for you. Your wage is figured, not on your skills and marketability in the labor force, but on how long it will take to train your replacement.
Walmart keeps labor costs low in order to keep the price of that 60" Vizio at $898 so you unskilled, unmotivated morons can afford one.
Let's say Target decided to pay a minimum of $15/hour to all employees. Where would you buy your flat screen? There, for $1,400 or at Walmart for $900?
Walmart is successful because there is a glut of cheap labor. They did not make their employees only qualified for minimum wage jobs.

Weird, PRE Reaganomics ('free trade', Corp WELFARE expansion, LARGE tax breaks for 'job creators AS they sucked out nearly 300% of the pie than they had held historically, war on unions, etc) did the US wages of the bottom 90% stagnate or fall? Or did it grow? Were there high school drop outs then?


Third World countries. One of the things they all had in common was a small, very rich elite, small middle class, and a large lower class. They also shared very low economic growth as a result. This has been known for at least 50 years. The US has been going in this direction for at least the last 30 years as we have gradually de-industrialized and government policies (such as trickle down economics) have promoted the shift of wealth from the lower and middle classes to the economic elite


In 1980 the top 1% earned 8.5% of total income. In 2007 they earned 23%.

In 1980 the bottom 90% earned 68% of total income. In 2007 they earned 53%.

Summary of Latest Federal Income Tax Data Tax Foundation
Sad isn't it that more and more people become worth less and less every year?

Again, idiot. The fact that you are only worth $6.50/hour is because your only skill is flipping burgers. That is NOT Walmart's fault.


WORTH? lol

"The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it." Thomas Jefferson


"Unhappy events abroad have retaught us two simple truths about the liberty of a democratic people.

The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any other controlling private power.

The second truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if its business system does not provide employment and produce and distribute goods in such a way as to sustain an acceptable standard of living. Both lessons hit home. Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing."

- FDR - Simple Truths message to Congress (April 29, 1938).
No danger of that happening with Progressives in power...
The standard of living seems to be acceptable to the employees of Walmart, McDonald's Burger King etc. If it weren't, they would me sufficiently motivated to get the training and education necessary to promote themselves into a higher paid position.

Again, Walmart didn't make you drop out of school. Walmart didn't force you to refuse to learn marketable skills, but since you did, they will pay you what you are worth, just like you will continue to shop where you get the best value for your dollar.


Progressives in power? LMAOROG

Weird, the US under PROGRESSIVE policies created the worlds largest middle class. Of course under GOP's assault the past 30+ years it's shrunk by 10%.

C'mon, Ernie ... you know you're impressed.

This isn't just your average, run of the mill, everyday LMAO. This is a LMAOROG, for God's sake! You know that when it's a LMAOROG, that's the end of the discussion. Nobody can beat a LMAOROG.

Admit your defeat .... well, unless, of course, you happen to have a TSTKB (too stupid to know better) card, but be warned ... you only get to play the TSTKB card one time. So use it wisely, grasshopper ...

Submit to the power of the LMAOROG or gamble your TSTKB card ...a tough decision. Go to the top of the mountain, ponder your choices, seek counsel of Internet gods, and come back ready to submit to the power of LMAOROG!!
 
I can't be even slightly impressed by someone who can't even get a 20 year old internet acronym right.
I have ended my interaction with him, at least in this thread because arguing with idiots is idiotic. The big risk is that the sane person will get so frustrated that he will become indistinguishable from the original idiot.
 
So you don't understand Biz or taxes. Shocking. A Biz that CAN move offshore has MANY, MANY loopholes (the reason for the overall 12% EFFECTIVE Corp tax rate), where comps like Walmart, McD's, etc that can't, pay closer to the 35%.

Next stupid question Bubba?

where comps like Walmart, McD's, etc that can't, pay closer to the 35%.


Hmmmm.....maybe we should lower our highest in the world corporate tax rate?


OK one hit wonder, WHY? If those Corps can't move offshore AND the one who can pay a MUCH smaller (EDIT: ALL CORPS AVG 12% EFFECTIVE rate) tax burden??? lol


OK one hit wonder, WHY?

Why would we want to reduce taxes on corps that can't move offshore? Really? LOL!
If they can't move, we should raise their rate. What could go wrong? LOL!

Poor babies, they can't afford it? You realize they ONLY pay taxes when they profit right? lol

Poor babies, they can't afford it?

Can't afford what? 50%? 60%? 100%? LOL!

I'm sure a higher rate would incentivize more business creation, more hiring.

Welll LOWEST EFFECTIVE RATES IN US MODERN HISTORY, 12% THEY SURE HAVEN'T DONE IT. Perhaps hitting them at 45% or so might?
 
Got it, you can't be honest.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.

If they lost $300 million in 2008, how much should they pay in 2009?

False premises, distortions and LIES the ONLY thing right wingers EVER have., Shocking

What is your explanation for their $200 million in earnings and their $0 tax payments?


I Didn't say that Bubba, AGAIN

"False premises, distortions and LIES the ONLY thing right wingers EVER have., Shocking"

You didn't say why they paid $0?
So why don't you say it now?
Were they friends of Obama?

Got it, you're a moron
 
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