Republicans have a poor understanding of economics. They should have no place in making policy

I'm amused by Dad's whining that the poor pay more in local and State taxes than the wealthy do. Liberals LOVE to increase taxes on "sin" items like cigarettes, alcohol and lottery winnings...which are all things that low income people spend money on at a far greater rate than the wealthy do. The wealthy are brighter than the poor...hence they don't tend to smoke, drink alcohol or buy lottery tickets at a rate even CLOSE to that which the poor do.

You want the poor to pay less in taxes? Stop raising them on the things that they buy more of...Duh?

Got it, you are an ignorant tool who can't follow the context of the posts

No, the wealthy don't tend to smoke or drink *shaking head*
You are a fool! Poor people spent a higher percentage of their income on alcohol tobacco and gasoline.
They tend to drink more, though maybe cheaper booze, but they consume in larger quantities. On the federal and state level, alcohol is taxed on the proof gallon before it's poured in a glass and only on cost after it's poured.
If you are surviving on $15,000/year and smoke a pack of cigarettes a day, you are spending 15% (in Alabama but over 22% in Connecticut) of your income on tobacco. A person with the same habit making $200,000 is spending 1%.
Same for gasoline. If you're living in the Liberal Mecca of California, you're paying 90 cents/gallon in taxes. A daily commute of 40 miles total working 5 days a week will cost you $468/year in fuel tax or 3% of your income. that's 0.2% for the $200,000/year guy.

Some Liberal Mecca huh?
 
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I'm amused by Dad's whining that the poor pay more in local and State taxes than the wealthy do. Liberals LOVE to increase taxes on "sin" items like cigarettes, alcohol and lottery winnings...which are all things that low income people spend money on at a far greater rate than the wealthy do. The wealthy are brighter than the poor...hence they don't tend to smoke, drink alcohol or buy lottery tickets at a rate even CLOSE to that which the poor do.

You want the poor to pay less in taxes? Stop raising them on the things that they buy more of...Duh?

Got it, you are an ignorant tool who can't follow the context of the posts

No, the wealthy don't tend to smoke or drink *shaking head*
You are a fool! Poor people spent a higher percentage of their income on alcohol tobacco and gasoline.
They tend to drink more, though maybe cheaper booze, but they consume in larger quantities. On the federal and state level, alcohol is taxed on the proof gallon before it's poured in a glass and only on cost after it's poured.
If you are surviving on $15,000/year and smoke a pack of cigarettes a day, you are spending 15% (in Alabama but over 22% in Connecticut) of your income on tobacco. A person with the same habit making $200,000 is spending 1%.
Same for gasoline. If you're living in the Liberal Mecca of California, you're paying 90 cents/gallon in taxes. A daily commute of 40 miles total working 5 days a week will cost you $468/year in fuel tax or 3% of your income. that's 0.2% for the $200,000/year guy.

Some Liberal Mecca huh?

Let me guess, YOU are for a more PROGRESSIVE overall tax system right? LOL
 
Sure, that's why they crashed HARD.

They crashed hard because they lowered their tax rates and had a jobs boom years earlier?
I guess you can show the highest rate countries didn't crash hard?

Sure they did, NOTHING to do with a WORLD WIDE CREDIT BUBBLE AND BUST. All related to lowering Corp taxes *shaking head*, lol

Got ANYTHING (I'll accept Heritage bullshit, I'll then rip apart), showing correlation/causation? lol

You want to see the correlation between Ireland lowering rates and the Irish boom?

No, reread it. CORRELATION/CAUSATION. Of course Ireland boomed like DOZENS of nations when the Banksters ran a ponzi scheme on the world! I want the LINK t o causation of a 12% tax rate (like the effective one the US actually has) and their boom!

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!
 
Thanks for posting a chart that has nothing to do with my question.
Try again?
In 2007, what percent of total income taxes did the top 1% pay?

YOU want to know, YOU find out. THAT wasn't my posit Bubba. Shocking. Then give me the share of fed revenues by income taxes also, COMPARED to past years and shares of income? lol

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-


The conclusion?

Lowering the tax rates on the wealthy and top earners in America do not appear to have any impact on the nation’s economic growth.

This paragraph from the report says it all—

“The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-GOP Suppresses Study - Forbes


YOU want to know, YOU find out.

You whined that the top 1% got too much of the tax cuts.

Are you sad that the people who paid no income taxes got no income tax cut?

Sad that the bottom HALF of US make so little (less than $15,000 per family), they don't have an INCOME tax burden?

Poor Americans Pay Double The State, Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent

Poor Americans Pay Double The State Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent

The conclusion?

Lowering the tax rates on the wealthy and top earners in America do not appear to have any impact on the nation’s economic growth.

This paragraph from the report says it all—

“The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-GOP Suppresses Study - Forbes


average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png
average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png

Sad that the bottom HALF of US make so little (less than $15,000 per family), they don't have an INCOME tax burden?

The bottom half makes less than $15000? Wow, that brain damage is serious.
I suggest you call 911.

Yes, average is less than $15,000 PER FAMILY. oF COURSE WHY SHOULD WE EXPECT THE 'JOB CREATORS' (TOP 1%) MAKING A min OF $388,900+ A FAMILY, TO PAY A LARGER TAX BURDEN

62,000,000+ FAMILIES, IS LESS THAN $15,000 PER FAMILY AVG (MAX ANY MAKE IS $34,800 A YEAR) BUBBA

Summary of Latest Federal Income Tax Data Tax Foundation


Yes, average is less than $15,000 PER FAMILY.

Realize the flaw in your claim yet?
 
Barack Obama raised the Federal tax on cigarettes by 170%...that tax affected lower income individuals far greater than the wealthy because far more low income people smoke than higher income people.


LIAR. Nearly double. NOT 170%. You mean he PROPOSED a higher tax that CONGRESS gets to decide on? AND what's wrong with limiting bad behavior that costs ALL of US down the road?

Public health groups back Obama’s 94-cent cigarette tax hike

Public health groups back Obama s 94-cent cigarette tax hike TheHill

That would the SECOND tax increase on cigarettes during Obama's time in office, Dad...the first was from 39 cents to $1.01 back in 2009. Now he wants to raise it ANOTHER 94 cents. So you do the math...when you take the Federal tax from 39 cents to $1.95 how much of an increase is that?
 
Sure they did, NOTHING to do with a WORLD WIDE CREDIT BUBBLE AND BUST. All related to lowering Corp taxes *shaking head*, lol

Got ANYTHING (I'll accept Heritage bullshit, I'll then rip apart), showing correlation/causation? lol

You want to see the correlation between Ireland lowering rates and the Irish boom?

No, reread it. CORRELATION/CAUSATION. Of course Ireland boomed like DOZENS of nations when the Banksters ran a ponzi scheme on the world! I want the LINK t o causation of a 12% tax rate (like the effective one the US actually has) and their boom!

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!

OK, Tax cuts create EVERYTHING in the con m


ind., AGAIN, you can't LINK (not copy and past and not attribute to WIKI, lol

August 11, 1999

Inside the Celtic Tiger shows that the tiger exists for only a few; for most of Ireland's people, it has largely passed them by. Denis O'Hearn looks at how Irish economic policy has become centred on attracting multinationals.

Rapid growth in the economy has been overwhelmingly concentrated in sectors dominated by multinational corporations

Ireland the myth of the Celtic tiger Green Left Weekly


Contributing writer Emily Cesta argues that “The Celtic Tiger”–Ireland’s boom economy between 1995-2007—was nothing more than a mirage of false promises.


....
It didn’t take long, however, before the building simply stopped. Unfinished apartments, abandoned buildings with only three outer walls and a serious loss of jobs were all anyone spoke of. The money simply dried up. Companies were moving. Dell moved its manufacturing plant from Limerick, Ireland to Poland. Waterford Wedgwood had a financial collapse. There was a banking crisis. Property values plummeted and no one could afford their mortgage. People were getting laid off and there was simply no more work.
The Myth of the Celtic Tiger - Money Under 30



ONCE MORE:

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”
http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf


AGAIN, US CORP TAX RATES WERE BELOW 12%? LOL


The Irish economic miracle was in part an employment boom as it had laid the foundation for a productivity boom many years earlier. This employment boom piggybacked the U.S. technology boom with U.S. multinationals realizing that Ireland not only was a gateway into the European Union that could avoid customs duties but also a means for reducing its effective tax rate by using transfer pricing manipulation to shift U.S. income into tax-advantaged Ireland. The really odd thing about the tax cut jihadists in the U.S. is that they are now complaining that the IRS might actually enforce section 482 of the U.S. tax code. Their hypocrisy is apparent when they claim – as many have been recently doing – that enforcing section 482 will lead to an outsourcing of jobs to low-tax jurisdictions. The Irish know that the lack of enforcement of section 482 has been part of their success in attracting jobs from U.S. multinationals.


Angry Bear The Irish Economic Miracle and Tax Policy


Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth

The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.


Unite s Notes On The Front Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth


LOL
 
Sure they did, NOTHING to do with a WORLD WIDE CREDIT BUBBLE AND BUST. All related to lowering Corp taxes *shaking head*, lol

Got ANYTHING (I'll accept Heritage bullshit, I'll then rip apart), showing correlation/causation? lol

You want to see the correlation between Ireland lowering rates and the Irish boom?

No, reread it. CORRELATION/CAUSATION. Of course Ireland boomed like DOZENS of nations when the Banksters ran a ponzi scheme on the world! I want the LINK t o causation of a 12% tax rate (like the effective one the US actually has) and their boom!

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!


The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.

Unite s Notes On The Front Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth


OOPS
 
Barack Obama raised the Federal tax on cigarettes by 170%...that tax affected lower income individuals far greater than the wealthy because far more low income people smoke than higher income people.


LIAR. Nearly double. NOT 170%. You mean he PROPOSED a higher tax that CONGRESS gets to decide on? AND what's wrong with limiting bad behavior that costs ALL of US down the road?

Public health groups back Obama’s 94-cent cigarette tax hike

Public health groups back Obama s 94-cent cigarette tax hike TheHill

That would the SECOND tax increase on cigarettes during Obama's time in office, Dad...the first was from 39 cents to $1.01 back in 2009. Now he wants to raise it ANOTHER 94 cents. So you do the math...when you take the Federal tax from 39 cents to $1.95 how much of an increase is that?


You meant Congress increased it once and Obama wants them to do it again. Good
 
YOU want to know, YOU find out. THAT wasn't my posit Bubba. Shocking. Then give me the share of fed revenues by income taxes also, COMPARED to past years and shares of income? lol

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-


The conclusion?

Lowering the tax rates on the wealthy and top earners in America do not appear to have any impact on the nation’s economic growth.

This paragraph from the report says it all—

“The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-GOP Suppresses Study - Forbes


YOU want to know, YOU find out.

You whined that the top 1% got too much of the tax cuts.

Are you sad that the people who paid no income taxes got no income tax cut?

Sad that the bottom HALF of US make so little (less than $15,000 per family), they don't have an INCOME tax burden?

Poor Americans Pay Double The State, Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent

Poor Americans Pay Double The State Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent

The conclusion?

Lowering the tax rates on the wealthy and top earners in America do not appear to have any impact on the nation’s economic growth.

This paragraph from the report says it all—

“The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-GOP Suppresses Study - Forbes


average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png
average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png

Sad that the bottom HALF of US make so little (less than $15,000 per family), they don't have an INCOME tax burden?

The bottom half makes less than $15000? Wow, that brain damage is serious.
I suggest you call 911.

Yes, average is less than $15,000 PER FAMILY. oF COURSE WHY SHOULD WE EXPECT THE 'JOB CREATORS' (TOP 1%) MAKING A min OF $388,900+ A FAMILY, TO PAY A LARGER TAX BURDEN

62,000,000+ FAMILIES, IS LESS THAN $15,000 PER FAMILY AVG (MAX ANY MAKE IS $34,800 A YEAR) BUBBA

Summary of Latest Federal Income Tax Data Tax Foundation


Yes, average is less than $15,000 PER FAMILY.

Realize the flaw in your claim yet?

No Bubba, TRY REAL MATH Not 'con' math

Bottom half of US (who made enough to even file taxes) made less than $15,000 PER FAMILY

Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data Tax Foundation
 
Not at all. I am for a system that doesn't punish the producers and reward laziness.


Punish? lol

average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png




THOSE DAMN LAZY 50% ERS WORKING 2-3 JOBS TO SURVIVE RIGHT? They should've hit the DNA lottery like Mittens or Dubya right?
 
You want to see the correlation between Ireland lowering rates and the Irish boom?

No, reread it. CORRELATION/CAUSATION. Of course Ireland boomed like DOZENS of nations when the Banksters ran a ponzi scheme on the world! I want the LINK t o causation of a 12% tax rate (like the effective one the US actually has) and their boom!

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!


The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.

Unite s Notes On The Front Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth


OOPS

Interesting piece at the link.

I notice that it was written by Michael Burke, who "blogs regularly at The Socialist Economic Bulletin".

Therefore, as an independent, I would need to hear the other side of the story, and analyze any contradictory data.

Until then, the link has zero (0) credibility.

.
 
You want to see the correlation between Ireland lowering rates and the Irish boom?

No, reread it. CORRELATION/CAUSATION. Of course Ireland boomed like DOZENS of nations when the Banksters ran a ponzi scheme on the world! I want the LINK t o causation of a 12% tax rate (like the effective one the US actually has) and their boom!

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!

OK, Tax cuts create EVERYTHING in the con m


ind., AGAIN, you can't LINK (not copy and past and not attribute to WIKI, lol

August 11, 1999

Inside the Celtic Tiger shows that the tiger exists for only a few; for most of Ireland's people, it has largely passed them by. Denis O'Hearn looks at how Irish economic policy has become centred on attracting multinationals.

Rapid growth in the economy has been overwhelmingly concentrated in sectors dominated by multinational corporations

Ireland the myth of the Celtic tiger Green Left Weekly


Contributing writer Emily Cesta argues that “The Celtic Tiger”–Ireland’s boom economy between 1995-2007—was nothing more than a mirage of false promises.


....
It didn’t take long, however, before the building simply stopped. Unfinished apartments, abandoned buildings with only three outer walls and a serious loss of jobs were all anyone spoke of. The money simply dried up. Companies were moving. Dell moved its manufacturing plant from Limerick, Ireland to Poland. Waterford Wedgwood had a financial collapse. There was a banking crisis. Property values plummeted and no one could afford their mortgage. People were getting laid off and there was simply no more work.
The Myth of the Celtic Tiger - Money Under 30



ONCE MORE:

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”
http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf


AGAIN, US CORP TAX RATES WERE BELOW 12%? LOL


The Irish economic miracle was in part an employment boom as it had laid the foundation for a productivity boom many years earlier. This employment boom piggybacked the U.S. technology boom with U.S. multinationals realizing that Ireland not only was a gateway into the European Union that could avoid customs duties but also a means for reducing its effective tax rate by using transfer pricing manipulation to shift U.S. income into tax-advantaged Ireland. The really odd thing about the tax cut jihadists in the U.S. is that they are now complaining that the IRS might actually enforce section 482 of the U.S. tax code. Their hypocrisy is apparent when they claim – as many have been recently doing – that enforcing section 482 will lead to an outsourcing of jobs to low-tax jurisdictions. The Irish know that the lack of enforcement of section 482 has been part of their success in attracting jobs from U.S. multinationals.


Angry Bear The Irish Economic Miracle and Tax Policy


Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth

The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.


Unite s Notes On The Front Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth


LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

They suddenly had the 2nd highest GDP per capita, after historically being so poor, millions of their citizens emigrated, but it was totally unrelated to their tax cuts? LOL!
I've seen plenty of stupid liberals, but you're one of the dumbest.


The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state.

OMG! That's terrible. What about .......

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%

You have any other period in Irish history where their economy grew like that?
 
You want to see the correlation between Ireland lowering rates and the Irish boom?

No, reread it. CORRELATION/CAUSATION. Of course Ireland boomed like DOZENS of nations when the Banksters ran a ponzi scheme on the world! I want the LINK t o causation of a 12% tax rate (like the effective one the US actually has) and their boom!

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!


The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.

Unite s Notes On The Front Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth


OOPS


The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.
The growth before the cuts were fully phased in don't count? Why not?
 
YOU want to know, YOU find out.

You whined that the top 1% got too much of the tax cuts.

Are you sad that the people who paid no income taxes got no income tax cut?

Sad that the bottom HALF of US make so little (less than $15,000 per family), they don't have an INCOME tax burden?

Poor Americans Pay Double The State, Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent

Poor Americans Pay Double The State Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent

The conclusion?

Lowering the tax rates on the wealthy and top earners in America do not appear to have any impact on the nation’s economic growth.

This paragraph from the report says it all—

“The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-GOP Suppresses Study - Forbes


average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png
average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png

Sad that the bottom HALF of US make so little (less than $15,000 per family), they don't have an INCOME tax burden?

The bottom half makes less than $15000? Wow, that brain damage is serious.
I suggest you call 911.

Yes, average is less than $15,000 PER FAMILY. oF COURSE WHY SHOULD WE EXPECT THE 'JOB CREATORS' (TOP 1%) MAKING A min OF $388,900+ A FAMILY, TO PAY A LARGER TAX BURDEN

62,000,000+ FAMILIES, IS LESS THAN $15,000 PER FAMILY AVG (MAX ANY MAKE IS $34,800 A YEAR) BUBBA

Summary of Latest Federal Income Tax Data Tax Foundation


Yes, average is less than $15,000 PER FAMILY.

Realize the flaw in your claim yet?

No Bubba, TRY REAL MATH Not 'con' math

Bottom half of US (who made enough to even file taxes) made less than $15,000 PER FAMILY

Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data Tax Foundation

You said the bottom half make less than $15,000.
Do you have a link that proves that?
Or do we have to use your link that proves you're wrong?
 
No, reread it. CORRELATION/CAUSATION. Of course Ireland boomed like DOZENS of nations when the Banksters ran a ponzi scheme on the world! I want the LINK t o causation of a 12% tax rate (like the effective one the US actually has) and their boom!

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!

OK, Tax cuts create EVERYTHING in the con m


ind., AGAIN, you can't LINK (not copy and past and not attribute to WIKI, lol

August 11, 1999

Inside the Celtic Tiger shows that the tiger exists for only a few; for most of Ireland's people, it has largely passed them by. Denis O'Hearn looks at how Irish economic policy has become centred on attracting multinationals.

Rapid growth in the economy has been overwhelmingly concentrated in sectors dominated by multinational corporations

Ireland the myth of the Celtic tiger Green Left Weekly


Contributing writer Emily Cesta argues that “The Celtic Tiger”–Ireland’s boom economy between 1995-2007—was nothing more than a mirage of false promises.


....
It didn’t take long, however, before the building simply stopped. Unfinished apartments, abandoned buildings with only three outer walls and a serious loss of jobs were all anyone spoke of. The money simply dried up. Companies were moving. Dell moved its manufacturing plant from Limerick, Ireland to Poland. Waterford Wedgwood had a financial collapse. There was a banking crisis. Property values plummeted and no one could afford their mortgage. People were getting laid off and there was simply no more work.
The Myth of the Celtic Tiger - Money Under 30



ONCE MORE:

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”
http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf


AGAIN, US CORP TAX RATES WERE BELOW 12%? LOL


The Irish economic miracle was in part an employment boom as it had laid the foundation for a productivity boom many years earlier. This employment boom piggybacked the U.S. technology boom with U.S. multinationals realizing that Ireland not only was a gateway into the European Union that could avoid customs duties but also a means for reducing its effective tax rate by using transfer pricing manipulation to shift U.S. income into tax-advantaged Ireland. The really odd thing about the tax cut jihadists in the U.S. is that they are now complaining that the IRS might actually enforce section 482 of the U.S. tax code. Their hypocrisy is apparent when they claim – as many have been recently doing – that enforcing section 482 will lead to an outsourcing of jobs to low-tax jurisdictions. The Irish know that the lack of enforcement of section 482 has been part of their success in attracting jobs from U.S. multinationals.


Angry Bear The Irish Economic Miracle and Tax Policy


Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth

The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.


Unite s Notes On The Front Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth


LOL

lol

So NO, you can't be honest

"
Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth

The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in."



Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

They suddenly had the 2nd highest GDP per capita, after historically being so poor, millions of their citizens emigrated, but it was totally unrelated to their tax cuts? LOL!
I've seen plenty of stupid liberals, but you're one of the dumbest.


The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state.

OMG! That's terrible. What about .......

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%

You have any other period in Irish history where their economy grew like that?

lol, YOU can't be honest. Shocking


Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth

The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.
 
15th post
Sad that the bottom HALF of US make so little (less than $15,000 per family), they don't have an INCOME tax burden?

Poor Americans Pay Double The State, Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent

Poor Americans Pay Double The State Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent

The conclusion?

Lowering the tax rates on the wealthy and top earners in America do not appear to have any impact on the nation’s economic growth.

This paragraph from the report says it all—

“The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”

Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-GOP Suppresses Study - Forbes


average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png
average_effective_federal_tax_rates.png

Sad that the bottom HALF of US make so little (less than $15,000 per family), they don't have an INCOME tax burden?

The bottom half makes less than $15000? Wow, that brain damage is serious.
I suggest you call 911.

Yes, average is less than $15,000 PER FAMILY. oF COURSE WHY SHOULD WE EXPECT THE 'JOB CREATORS' (TOP 1%) MAKING A min OF $388,900+ A FAMILY, TO PAY A LARGER TAX BURDEN

62,000,000+ FAMILIES, IS LESS THAN $15,000 PER FAMILY AVG (MAX ANY MAKE IS $34,800 A YEAR) BUBBA

Summary of Latest Federal Income Tax Data Tax Foundation


Yes, average is less than $15,000 PER FAMILY.

Realize the flaw in your claim yet?

No Bubba, TRY REAL MATH Not 'con' math

Bottom half of US (who made enough to even file taxes) made less than $15,000 PER FAMILY

Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data Tax Foundation

You said the bottom half make less than $15,000.
Do you have a link that proves that?
Or do we have to use your link that proves you're wrong?

Do the math dummy. ANTI Tax Foundation proves I'm CORRECT
 
No, reread it. CORRELATION/CAUSATION. Of course Ireland boomed like DOZENS of nations when the Banksters ran a ponzi scheme on the world! I want the LINK t o causation of a 12% tax rate (like the effective one the US actually has) and their boom!

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!


The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.

Unite s Notes On The Front Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth


OOPS


The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.
The growth before the cuts were fully phased in don't count? Why not?

How could the economy boom with a high tax rate before they phased in? That's like somehow claiming Reagan with a top rate of 50% his first six years, tax cuts were responsible for his 1980's economy? Oh wait, you K/K/Kl;owns claim that right? lol
 
No, reread it. CORRELATION/CAUSATION. Of course Ireland boomed like DOZENS of nations when the Banksters ran a ponzi scheme on the world! I want the LINK t o causation of a 12% tax rate (like the effective one the US actually has) and their boom!

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!


The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.

Unite s Notes On The Front Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth


OOPS

Interesting piece at the link.

I notice that it was written by Michael Burke, who "blogs regularly at The Socialist Economic Bulletin".

Therefore, as an independent, I would need to hear the other side of the story, and analyze any contradictory data.

Until then, the link has zero (0) credibility.

.

Right, ONE link out of 3, and you just use socialist as an ad hom? lol

Heritage has some WONDERFUL pierces of fluff on Ireland's, of course you need to disconnect your brain and not listen to points that invariably blow their bullshit out of the water!
 
From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007.[18] During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe.


So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT. LOL

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tige

“The promotion of the myth that low taxes created the Irish economic ‘miracle’ is part of a wider, conservative political agenda which, in essence, seeks to limit the role
of the state and maintain the benefits reaped by a small minority, during the Celtic Tiger years. For them, Ireland is a low-tax economy and self-interest dictates that it
should remain so.”

http://www.ictu.ie/download/pdf/tax_cuts_did_not_create_celtic_tiger.pdf

For nearly two decades, Ireland has been hailed as an example to the rest of the world for what can be achieved by a small country in terms of economic growth. The prosperity enjoyed by the “Celtic Tiger,” it was claimed, benefited the Irish population as a whole.


...The Celtic Tiger changed over time, mostly due to foreign companies looking toward Eastern Europe for even cheaper labor. When foreign investment started to dry up, Ireland’s economic profile shifted. Joining the Eurozone in 2002, Ireland was awash in money, as low interest rates in Europe made easy credit available. This had a twofold effect.


On the other, a “housing bubble” emerged that became the driving force of the Irish economy. This asset-price bubble became an important source of employment, since the construction, real estate, and mortgage broker industries exploded. It was estimated that the housing boom was responsible for one-fifth of all the jobs on the island, and state revenues relied heavily on property taxes.

IRELAND Slaying the Celtic Tiger Solidarity

In September 2008, Ireland became the first eurozone country to officially enter recession

So NO YOU WILL NOT TRY TO LINK TO ANYTHING PROVING YOUR POSIT

From 1995 to 2000, GDP growth rate ranged between 7.8 and 11.5%; it then slowed to between 4.4 and 6.5% from 2001 to 2007

Tax Cuts did not create the Celtic Tiger

During that period, the Irish GDP per capita rose dramatically to equal, then eventually surpass, that of all but one state in Western Europe

Before the tax cuts, Ireland was one of the poorer western EU members, after, their GDP per capita was higher than all but Germany. I guess it was just a coincidence? LOL!


The same is true in Ireland. The corporation tax rate was cut drastically and a 12.5% rate was phased in up to 2003. The 10-year period of GDP growth since has been the worst in the history of the state. Yet it is still widely claimed that a low rate of corporation tax determines Irish prosperity. This claim is evidently false.

The strongest ever year of Irish growth was in 1997. This was not a part of what has become known as the ‘Celtic Tiger’ period and was six years before the 12.5% tax rate was fully phased in.

Unite s Notes On The Front Low Corporation Tax Rates for Do Not Boost Growth


OOPS

Interesting piece at the link.

I notice that it was written by Michael Burke, who "blogs regularly at The Socialist Economic Bulletin".

Therefore, as an independent, I would need to hear the other side of the story, and analyze any contradictory data.

Until then, the link has zero (0) credibility.

.

Right, ONE link out of 3, and you just use socialist as an ad hom? lol

Heritage has some WONDERFUL pierces of fluff on Ireland's, of course you need to disconnect your brain and not listen to points that invariably blow their bullshit out of the water!

Just pointing out that hardcore partisan ideologues cannot be believed until their claims are fully verified.

In other words, they lie a lot.

If you want to get defensive about that, not my problem.

.
 

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