Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. Their failed arguments are examined here:

[Rawley]

That is not a an explanation why society must force full term gestation on all women as the Republican Party wants government to do. #598

Because abortion involves ending a life.

 

[Papageorgio]

survey {2012} finds republicans are more knowledgeable about politics and political history than democrats. 240416 {post•1}. yidnar Apr’24 Ssfram: a survey found republicans are more knowledgeable about politics and political history than democrats ! yvdnvr 240426 Ssfram00001

Same thread as above; 240417 {post•69 to 1}. LibertyKid Apr’24 said: Not surprised. We see the same in this forum. lbrtykd 240417 Ssfram00069


Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. 231121 {post•1} NotfooledbyW Nov’23 Vrftma: Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. nfbw 231121 Vrftma00001

Same thread as above; 240523 {post•598} NotfooledbyW May’24 Vrftma: Let’s take the issue of abortions for convenience Saint “Not Surprized LibertyKid in the early weeks of pregnancy;

Will you try to explain in a rational political and moral argument why society must force full term gestation on all women as the Republican Party wants government to do. nfbw 240523 Vrftma00598

Truth is there are rational arguments on both sides of the issue, that is why it is an issue. It depends on beliefs, values and morals as to where you rationally fall on the issue.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

A WELL REGULATED militia...
So no. You are full of shit.
Heller was just another example of black robes legislating from the bench you dimwit.
Double standard much?

And again, you are stupid as shit Marxist.

The 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

See Teaching Resources

 

[Rawley]

Perhaps you have heard of Donald J Trump a Republican.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-takes-credit-dobbs-decision-150946419.html

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May 17, 2023, 12:37 PM EDT. By Sahil Kapur​

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WASHINGTON — Donald Trump took credit Wednesday for the elimination of Roe v. Wade, embracing his role in selecting the Supreme Court justices who were instrumental in ending the half-century precedent that protected abortion rights nationwide.​

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“After 50 years of failure, with nobody coming even close, I was able to kill Roe v. Wade, much to the ‘shock’ of everyone,” Trump, the former president and front-runner for the 2024 Republican nomination, said on his social media platform.​

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Trump said his actions have “put the Pro Life movement in a strong negotiating position” against proponents of abortion rights, giving himself credit for the various bans that are being advanced by conservatives across the country. More than a dozen states have enacted abortion limits since Roe was overturned last summer.​

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“Without me there would be no 6 weeks, 10 weeks, 15 weeks, or whatever is finally agreed to. Without me the pro Life movement would have just kept losing,” Trump added.​

So where's the part about him forcing women to full term?

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. It is why Republicans are suffering politically since they won a states rights argument with the Dobbs decision.

But state’s rights do not supersede individual right’s including the unenumerated individual right to privacy for impregnated women.

One of Saint Ding’s failed arguments goes something like this:

ding said: It's extremely clear that the reason you are playing word games in your dehumanization of human life is to make it easier to kill them and dismiss their right to life. dvng. #4,716​

An argument based upon what Saint Ding thinks I am thinking being evil, is not an argument at all.

Protected unborn life from the instant of conception has not been a norm for Americans for centuries. The norm the past fifty years has been that protected life begins at reasonable expectation of life outside the womb.

Saint Heynorm does the same thing by accusing me of thinking ZEFs are worthless clump of cells,

HeyNorm said: “ ….. all they are carrying is a worthless clump of cells, right? Like a parasite, right?” hynrm.23.11.19 #772​

I don’t think that at all. My response is here:
nf.23.11.21 #11,948 to hynrm.23.11.19 #772

nf.23.11.21 #1

Abortion should be a non issue, though in my world, 2-3 first trimester and we remove the mothering parts with the last. Crime and REAL health issues excluded. There, everyone satisfied.

OP is BS. Personally I only know of one person who might insist on full gestation for all women, only because she and her guy would do it. But in their case it's in God's hands, they're devoted Christians. They're also very good people, so fuck off with any liberal assumptions. My error, I recall she's moderate on the subject, so I don't know anyone, and I'm Republican. You know, the sane side?

 

[MagicMike]

And again, you are stupid as shit Marxist.

The 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

A well REGULATED militia....
So, being the strict constitutionalist that you want to pretend to be...what regulations on firearms do you support?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

A well REGULATED militia....

A well REGULATED militia....

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

[MagicMike]

Because abortion involves ending a life.

Only the lives of unwanted cells.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Only the lives of unwanted cells.

Shame you werent aborted because the way i see it, you are unwanted cells.

 

[MagicMike]

Shame you werent aborted because the way i see it, you are unwanted cells.

Very predictable emotional response simp.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Very predictable emotional response simp.

Bwaaaahhhaaaaa....Shall not be infringed upon. Why do you want to give up your right to self defense, from tyrannical governments foreign and domestic?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Truth is there are rational arguments on both sides of the issue, that is why it is an issue.

There is no rational argument for depriving a pregnant woman of her liberty to make choices about her body and her life when there is no harm to anyone outside and separated from her body if she chooses to end her pregnancy with a safe legal abortion. Banning that procedure in states that have white born again Christian majorities in state legislatures and governors has nothing to do with being rational at all. You can’t make a rational argument for depriving women of a liberty when no harm comes to your life limb or property when she aborts the fetus in her body. That’s why you stop at both sides are right and can go no farther towards truth when you choose to cop out.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Because abortion involves ending a life.

But ending fetal life causes no harm to you or the safety and security in which you are entitled to pursuit of life liberty and pursuit of happiness for yourself your family and your circles of co-workers and friends.

If a coworker gets an abortion not punishable by law, are you in danger in any way? is your liberty infringed in any way? Do your fear she will go around killing other women’s babies for letting her get away with an abortion?

Be honest and please reply,

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Abortion should be a non issue, though in my world, 2-3 first trimester and we remove the mothering parts with the last

Who are you to remove the mothering parts of any human being?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Full term gestation has been the experience of women for 2 million years.

 

[Rawley]

But ending fetal life causes no harm to you or the safety and security in which you are entitled to pursuit of life liberty and pursuit of happiness for yourself your family and your circles of co-workers and friends.

If a coworker gets an abortion not punishable by law, are you in danger in any way? is your liberty infringed in any way? Do your fear she will go around killing other women’s babies for letting her get away with an abortion?

Be honest and please reply,

?? It's not about me or my family or my friends or my co-workers or .... It's about the life that is ended by the abortion.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

OP is BS.

When a women first realizes she is pregnant but does not accept the risk of nurturing a baby for a full nine month term of gestation but she lives in the White Christian Republic of Arkansas she is being forced by the government of Arkansas to deliver her baby through full term gestation until natural birth.

What is BS? Be specific.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

It's about the life that is ended by the abortion.

But why? Ending a fetal life by its only potential birth mother causes no harm to you and your family and the entire society in which you live if a woman terminates her own pregnancy and is not punished for that act.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

It's about the life that is ended by the abortion.

What about that life being ended in private affects you?

 

[IDIOCRACY]

When a women first realizes she is pregnant but does not accept the risk of nurturing a baby for a full nine month term of gestation but she lives in the White Christian Republic of Arkansas she is being forced by the government of Arkansas to deliver her baby through full term gestation until natural birth.

What is BS? Be specific.

Arkansas is off-tilt IMO, but they sure wanted to make a Statement. She has an option to cross the state lines. It will be interesting to see if their position reduces unwanted pregnancies.