Republicans deserve what they get

[JoeB131]

When the Republicans took over Congress in 1994, the economy improved, jobs increased,

No, the economy improved when Bill Clinton took over and ended the asshattery of the Reagan years, made the rich pay their fair share and got us back on fiscal responsibility.

You see, funny thing.

We always have recoveries under Democrats
We always have recessions under Republicans...

NEVER FUCKING FAILS.

But as long as angry white guys like you keep voting them in, they'll keep doing it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When the Republicans took over Congress in 1994, the economy improved, jobs increased,

No, the economy improved when Bill Clinton took over and ended the asshattery of the Reagan years, made the rich pay their fair share and got us back on fiscal responsibility.

You see, funny thing.

We always have recoveries under Democrats
We always have recessions under Republicans...

NEVER FUCKING FAILS.

But as long as angry white guys like you keep voting them in, they'll keep doing it.

I guess you don't understand that we don't live in a Autocracy. A President has very little power unless he has the Congress to back up his ideas. And how do you make the economy do better by taking more money away from people, can you explain that? If you make 500 dollars less this month than you did the month before, does that make you want to spend more or less this month?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

ah, yes, the cry of the battered housewife Republican... if the rich abuse you, it's your own fault, not them because they have more power and money.

Funny, I always thought that about you and the government.

 

[JoeB131]

I guess you don't understand that we don't live in a Autocracy. A President has very little power unless he has the Congress to back up his ideas.

Um, going to try to use really simple words.

The President appoints the people who regulate the banks. When you get a Democrat who knows what he is doing, the banks don't do dumb and risky shit.

When the Republicans are in charge and watching porn on their computers, the banks pretty much do what they did in the run up to 2008, with exactly the results we got.

And how do you make the economy do better by taking more money away from people, can you explain that?

Sure. You take money away from the rich assholes who waste it on shit like big parties and yachts and dressage horses and spend it on schools and roads and infrastructure, which creates jobs and puts us in a stronger economic footing. I'm sorry you missed this pretty simple lesson in school.

If you make 500 dollars less this month than you did the month before, does that make you want to spend more or less this month?

Quite the contrary, if you take $500,000 away from a rich person buying a dressage horsie and spend it hiring working people do make useful stuff like roads, everyone benefits economically... I'm sorry you don't get that.

 

[Bush92]

The left loves to declare that President Trump has done “nothing” when in fact he has done everything he is constitutionally responsibile for (and very successfully I might add). It has been the Republican Congress that has done nothing.

They talked such a big game in 2010. They promised they would repeal Obamacare (they’ve done no such thing). They promised they would pass a budget (they’ve done no such thing). They promised they would restore fiscal sanity (they’ve done no such thing). They promised the world and they delivered absolutely nothing.

“Just a few years ago, Speaker Ryan was viewed as the individual in our party, in our country, who was focused on fiscal responsibility, and then you saw what happened last week,” Jordan said, referring to the budget.

“So all I’m saying is we need legislation in every policy area that is consistent with that we told them we were going to do and what they elected us to do,” he continued. “That did not happen last week, but I certainly hope it happens on immigration.”

Outside of tax reform, there isn’t one single thing that the Republicans have achieved. They haven’t repealed anything and they haven’t passed anything. They absolutely deserve to have their asses handed to them in the 2018 midterm election. What a wasted opportunity to make a positive difference for this country.

Is it too much to ask for politicians to deliver in what they promised to do? This is a prime example of why we needed the Tea Party so desperately. It is time that we bury the Republican Party for good. True conservatives, libertarians, the Tea Party, etc. need to join the Constitution Party.

Freedom Caucus issues a stern warning to Paul Ryan on immigration – here’s what they said

Republicans deserve victory at the polls.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Um, going to try to use really simple words.

The President appoints the people who regulate the banks. When you get a Democrat who knows what he is doing, the banks don't do dumb and risky shit.

When the Republicans are in charge and watching porn on their computers, the banks pretty much do what they did in the run up to 2008, with exactly the results we got.

So you switched from the economy to banks? Very well. Do you want me to post those links again showing you who Clinton hired that changed all the mortgage lending regulations? Some of the reports are even from the NYT, so you can't claim bias.

Sure. You take money away from the rich assholes who waste it on shit like big parties and yachts and dressage horses and spend it on schools and roads and infrastructure, which creates jobs and puts us in a stronger economic footing. I'm sorry you missed this pretty simple lesson in school.

Oh sure, that's what happens. I seem to recall ONE person who tried that. Here is what he said about the results:

Quite the contrary, if you take $500,000 away from a rich person buying a dressage horsie and spend it hiring working people do make useful stuff like roads, everyone benefits economically... I'm sorry you don't get that.

No you economic ignorant fool. You can't stimulate or help the economy by focusing on one small sector of our employment in this country. That's one of the many reasons the Pork Bill failed. A near trillion dollars right down the drain.

A stimulus (in order to work) has to be spread out to most everybody. That's what took place when the price of fuel dropped. Thanks to Republicans and fracking, most all Americans financially benefitted. Same thing with the tax cut. Most of us are getting more in our paychecks so more people are likely to spend or invest it. It's spread out so the economy is doing fantastic.

You don't benefit financially because some bulldozer guy in Omaha has a job. Therefore you have nothing to offer or help the economy.

 

[JoeB131]

So you switched from the economy to banks? Very well. Do you want me to post those links again showing you who Clinton hired that changed all the mortgage lending regulations? Some of the reports are even from the NYT, so you can't claim bias.

No, I don't want to see how you didn't understand what you were reading, again. As a rule, I ignore anything you link to because you are a pig-ignorant racist.

Oh sure, that's what happens. I seem to recall ONE person who tried that. Here is what he said about the results:

We went from 10% unemployment to 4% unemployment. That was the result.

No you economic ignorant fool. You can't stimulate or help the economy by focusing on one small sector of our employment in this country. That's one of the many reasons the Pork Bill failed. A near trillion dollars right down the drain.

Again, it saved the job I had at the time, so not so much.

A stimulus (in order to work) has to be spread out to most everybody. That's what took place when the price of fuel dropped. Thanks to Republicans and fracking, most all Americans financially benefitted.

Guy, gasoline is at 3.00 a gallon where I am at... it didn't go down all that much... certainly not to the levels it was before the Recession.

But some big oil companies got to pollute some white trash states, so that's something.

You don't benefit financially because some bulldozer guy in Omaha has a job. Therefore you have nothing to offer or help the economy.

Sure you do. Because he builds a road. That road allows goods and services to make it to market more cheaply. People are wasting less time in traffic and being more productive.

See how that works, dummy?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, I don't want to see how you didn't understand what you were reading, again. As a rule, I ignore anything you link to because you are a pig-ignorant racist.

Of course, that must be it. It can't be because those links would prove you wrong. After all, the one nice thing about being a liberal is never having to say you were wrong.

We went from 10% unemployment to 4% unemployment. That was the result.

It had nothing to do with the Pork Bill unless you can show me how. And remember a lot of that unemployment figure had to do with people dropping out of the workforce and not jobs at all. Didn't you ever ask yourself why they kept the interest rate at 0 or damn near 0 the entire two Obama terms?

Again, it saved the job I had at the time, so not so much.

Oh, liberal math again. Let's see, we spent one trillion dollars, and you got to keep your job. What a great tradeoff.

Guy, gasoline is at 3.00 a gallon where I am at... it didn't go down all that much... certainly not to the levels it was before the Recession.

But some big oil companies got to pollute some white trash states, so that's something.

What are you talking about? When the new oil hit the market, the price per gallon was in the lower 2 dollar range. Some places had it for $1.95. As the economy improved, prices went up because the more economic activity, the more fuel we use. Without fracking, we would be paying about $4.50 a gallon or higher right now.

That's not to mention heating fuel is still reasonable. Natural gas, propane, heating oil are still in a reasonable range.

Sure you do. Because he builds a road. That road allows goods and services to make it to market more cheaply. People are wasting less time in traffic and being more productive.

See how that works, dummy?

You make a statement about the economy like that and call ME the dummy?

 

[JoeB131]

Of course, that must be it. It can't be because those links would prove you wrong. After all, the one nice thing about being a liberal is never having to say you were wrong.

Well, guy, since all your arguments generally boil down to, "The Darkies did it", kind of hard to draw any other conclusion.

Oh, liberal math again. Let's see, we spent one trillion dollars, and you got to keep your job. What a great tradeoff.

Me and millions of other people... I know you all like to forget what 2008 was like or WHY the American people threw your asses out.

What are you talking about? When the new oil hit the market, the price per gallon was in the lower 2 dollar range. Some places had it for $1.95. As the economy improved, prices went up because the more economic activity, the more fuel we use. Without fracking, we would be paying about $4.50 a gallon or higher right now.

Fracking doesn't produce that much oil... it's only really economical to do when the prices are high.

But some rich people got to pollute the water table,t hat's the important thing.

You make a statement about the economy like that and call ME the dummy?

Again, guy, I've been to Cleveland... you fucks don't even know what "economic activity" looks like. Shit, you don't even take down the signs for the failed businesses.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Me and millions of other people... I know you all like to forget what 2008 was like or WHY the American people threw your asses out.

Yes they did, and they rehired our asses after only two years of Democrat leadership. From that point on, we had record levels of Republicans getting elected, and even took over 2/3 of the governorship in this country. We kept all that and recently took over the White House.

Now who got their asses thrown out again???

Fracking doesn't produce that much oil... it's only really economical to do when the prices are high.

But some rich people got to pollute the water table,t hat's the important thing.

For your information fracking greatly reduced our carbon footprint compared to the way we usually mine fuel. Because fracking has a lot to do with natural gas, it preserved oil for other things greatly reducing the price, plus the lower cost of natural gas prompted electric companies to switch from other fuels to using clean burning natural gas.

The Democrats are defenseless against fracking as much as they protest it. It's great for our economy, great for the planet, and great for businesses. Left to Democrats, we would be paying $6.00 a gallon for gasoline, and our thermostats would only be set high enough to keep the water from freezing in your house because of cost.

Again, guy, I've been to Cleveland... you fucks don't even know what "economic activity" looks like. Shit, you don't even take down the signs for the failed businesses.

But that's how it is in Democrat controlled areas Joe. It's why we don't want to see this happen to the rest of the country. Keep voting those Democrats out for crying out loud. Our city has been run by Democrats since former Governor and Senator George Voinovich was Mayor here.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes they did, and they rehired our asses after only two years of Democrat leadership. From that point on, we had record levels of Republicans getting elected, and even took over 2/3 of the governorship in this country. We kept all that and recently took over the White House.

YOu mean you stole it... but never mind.. it's not like we listen to the people, you come up with all sorts of schemes to get around them.

Thing was, you guys can't win elections, you steal them.

For your information fracking greatly reduced our carbon footprint compared to the way we usually mine fuel.

Water pollution is a lot worse, but never mind... some big corporations got rich screwing you.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

YOu mean you stole it... but never mind.. it's not like we listen to the people, you come up with all sorts of schemes to get around them.

Thing was, you guys can't win elections, you steal them.

How did we steal any election? Trump got elected like all others before him using the same method we've been using for centuries.

The problem here is that you are a victim of brainwashing. Look at the history:

Trump had the Russians rig the election.
Bush had Diebold rig the voting machines.
Bush was selected by the Supreme Court.

Are you starting to see a pattern here? Let me explain it to you:

Democrats cannot tell their constituents the truth. It doesn't work for them. They need to keep lying to keep their voters coming out. Using brainwashing, they've managed to convince a number of their followers that we are sick of capitalism, and that the country is turning Socialist or Communist. They've been telling us the Republican party will be the thing of the past for over 30 years now.

So what happens when they lose elections? Do they tell people that the citizens are not turning against a free capitalist country? Of course not. If they did that, voters would quit turning out. So instead, they tell the sheep they really won the election, it's just that the Republicans found a way to cheat them out of it.

Diebold machines, the Supreme Court, Russia, gerrymandering, Voter-ID, the Electoral College, punch card ballots, are just some of the tools they used to lie to their voters. If you can't see these patterns, you are as blind as a bat.

Water pollution is a lot worse, but never mind... some big corporations got rich screwing you.

How did they screw me? I didn't get screwed. I too enjoy the lower price of fuel. And when you get right down to it, energy has the slowest price increases of any other product in the US. Milk, Kool-Aid, cereal, beef, eggs, all increased much higher percentage wise throughout the years than oil products.

 

[JoeB131]

The problem here is that you are a victim of brainwashing. Look at the history:

Trump had the Russians rig the election.
Bush had Diebold rig the voting machines.
Bush was selected by the Supreme Court.

Except I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004... but never mind... do go on your rant.

Democrats cannot tell their constituents the truth. It doesn't work for them. They need to keep lying to keep their voters coming out. Using brainwashing, they've managed to convince a number of their followers that we are sick of capitalism, and that the country is turning Socialist or Communist.

Except nobody has ever claimed that. Hillary is the candidate Wall Street wanted, and she won the popular vote.

Now, it is scary that a Socialist did as well as he did, and that a Fascist wont he GOP nomination and stole the general election with Russian help. That tells me that a lot of people are realizing that Capitalism is a shit sandwich. Trump didn't "win" because he extolled capitalism. He won because he told the poor dumb white trash like you that big corporations were taking your jobs and given them to brown people.

And you fell for it, you stupid brainwashed moron. Just like you fell for it since Nixon's southern strategy. Here, here's an infographic to explain this to you. Your the guy in the coveralls, Trump is the guy with the money bag.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Except I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004... but never mind... do go on your rant.

So what? What does that have to do with anything?

Except nobody has ever claimed that. Hillary is the candidate Wall Street wanted, and she won the popular vote.

Now, it is scary that a Socialist did as well as he did, and that a Fascist wont he GOP nomination and stole the general election with Russian help. That tells me that a lot of people are realizing that Capitalism is a shit sandwich. Trump didn't "win" because he extolled capitalism. He won because he told the poor dumb white trash like you that big corporations were taking your jobs and given them to brown people.

And you fell for it, you stupid brainwashed moron. Just like you fell for it since Nixon's southern strategy. Here, here's an infographic to explain this to you. Your the guy in the coveralls, Trump is the guy with the money bag.

Nobody ever claimed what?

Do you have any proof Russia stole the election? Because nobody else has. Your leaders even did a recount in three states, and all it showed was that everything was on the level. If I remember correctly, Trump even managed to get a few more votes in one state.

Trump is the epitome of capitalism. He's a capitalist if there ever was one. Yes, Trump did tell us those ILLEGAL brown people were taking our jobs and they are. WTF do you think 20 million of them are doing here, begging for money? Of course they are here taking our jobs. That's why many of them came here in the first place.

All you people who hate capitalism so much never try to move to one of those wonderful socialist countries. Why not? If it's so great over there, what are you doing here?

So what does socialism mean? It means government runs everything. That's exactly what the Democrats want. They want to tell you what time to get up in the morning, what kind of job you can have, what kind of medical care you are limited to, what kind of money you can make. It's just a perfect commie dream. Oh, and once they get a hold of medical care, they will be able to tell you how to live your life too: what kind food you have to eat, what kind of exercise you have to participate in, how much you can weigh, how much alcohol you are allowed to consume, how much television you are allowed to watch.

 

[JoeB131]

Do you have any proof Russia stole the election?

yes, we have a whole bunch. 17 Intelligence Agencies said they interfered in the election.

The fact that they interfered isn't in question. The only question is, what did Trump know and when did he know it.

Trump is the epitome of capitalism. He's a capitalist if there ever was one. Yes, Trump did tell us those ILLEGAL brown people were taking our jobs and they are. WTF do you think 20 million of them are doing here, begging for money? Of course they are here taking our jobs. That's why many of them came here in the first place.

Again, that's not capitalism, guy. Capitalism is you hire the cheapest guy for the least amount of money. now, that really is what Trump did when he had his product made in China or had Polish immigrants do work on his buildings, but as a politician, he's admitting that dumb white trash like you aren't the most cost-effective workers for a job, and you all need to be protected from your own lack of practicality.

All you people who hate capitalism so much never try to move to one of those wonderful socialist countries. Why not? If it's so great over there, what are you doing here?

Because this is our country. You see, when a country asks me to give up 11 years of my life to protect it, that kind of gives me a lot more say than it does your dumb white trash ass.

So what does socialism mean? It means government runs everything. That's exactly what the Democrats want. They want to tell you what time to get up in the morning, what kind of job you can have, what kind of medical care you are limited to, what kind of money you can make. It's just a perfect commie dream. Oh, and once they get a hold of medical care, they will be able to tell you how to live your life too: what kind food you have to eat, what kind of exercise you have to participate in, how much you can weigh, how much alcohol you are allowed to consume, how much television you are allowed to watch.

And where is it being done, exactly?

Because most of Europe is "Socialist" by your standards, and there's no one regulating the TV they can watch.

Sorry, I don't consider myself "Free" if my employer can hold my health care over my head to keep me in line, or cancel it on a whim because he wants to make more profit.

"I done don't got me no health insurance, but I'm 'free' to be exploited by the rich.'

MAN ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID!!!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

yes, we have a whole bunch. 17 Intelligence Agencies said they interfered in the election.

The fact that they interfered isn't in question. The only question is, what did Trump know and when did he know it.

I asked for proof Trump stole the election, not if Russia interfered. All countries interfere with elections including ours. Think DumBama didn't interfere with elections in other countries?

And how does a private citizen have more smarts than a sitting US President? After all, if Russia did do anything, they did it under Hussein's watch.

Again, that's not capitalism, guy. Capitalism is you hire the cheapest guy for the least amount of money. now, that really is what Trump did when he had his product made in China or had Polish immigrants do work on his buildings, but as a politician, he's admitting that dumb white trash like you aren't the most cost-effective workers for a job, and you all need to be protected from your own lack of practicality.

Trump admitted he has his products made overseas. He said he had no choice because of foreign competition. That''s why he started a campaign to even the score for Americans when it comes to trade deals. Furthermore Trump never hired Polish workers for anything. He hired a demolition company to tear down the structure that is now Trump Towers. It's the demolition company that hired those immigrants and Trump had no control over that.

Capitalism is a system of creating wealth. It's a system that allows you to participate or not. If you wish to participate, you have a chance at becoming wealthy. If you choose not to participate, you can enter into our socialist system of welfare programs and remain a failure your entire life. Capitalism is a system that rewards effort and risk.

Because this is our country. You see, when a country asks me to give up 11 years of my life to protect it, that kind of gives me a lot more say than it does your dumb white trash ass.

Why is that? Did you get ownership of this country or something? Your country didn't ask you to do anything. You decided to do that on your own.

So you joined the reserves, so what? You only did so for the benefits. You certainly can't tell me you joined for the love of this country because you seem to hate everything about it. You hate our system of government, you hate our system of business, you hate the people who founded it, you hate the people who are the majority, you even hate how we elect our President.

And where is it being done, exactly?

I'm not going to post the links if you're not going to read them; not that I haven't posted them in the past and of course, you didn't read them.

Because most of Europe is "Socialist" by your standards, and there's no one regulating the TV they can watch.

Sorry, I don't consider myself "Free" if my employer can hold my health care over my head to keep me in line, or cancel it on a whim because he wants to make more profit.

"I done don't got me no health insurance, but I'm 'free' to be exploited by the rich.'

Still don't have that OCD under control, do you Joe?

 

[JoeB131]

I asked for proof Trump stole the election, not if Russia interfered. All countries interfere with elections including ours. Think DumBama didn't interfere with elections in other countries?

And how does a private citizen have more smarts than a sitting US President? After all, if Russia did do anything, they did it under Hussein's watch.

Will you still be making these lame excuses when they frogmarch trump out in handcuffs? Just asking for a friend.

Trump admitted he has his products made overseas. He said he had no choice because of foreign competition.

Then he's defacto admitting that foreign workers are better. Look, guy, if there was one person who had the option of using American labor, it was Trump. If you are buying "Trump Clothes", you are buying the brand name, not the functionality.

I'm not going to post the links if you're not going to read them; not that I haven't posted them in the past and of course, you didn't read them.

Right... because this how how Trump supporters see the planet.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then he's defacto admitting that foreign workers are better. Look, guy, if there was one person who had the option of using American labor, it was Trump. If you are buying "Trump Clothes", you are buying the brand name, not the functionality.

As is the case with most American products today.

I'm sure Trump like most business people would love to have Americans working for them, but American labor far out prices foreign labor, and the American consumer demands cheaply made products. It's not only Trump's problem, it's a problem with all our manufacturing in this country.

Now that people found even lower prices online, more and more brick and mortar stores are closing all the time. The only time I shop online is when I can't find something at a store; not that we have many stores open here.

While Trump is doing all he can to make foreign manufacturing more competitive to US companies, it all boils down to the consumer. Until we can learn to quit looking for the cheapest product and instead, look for American made products, this problem will only continue to get worse.

 

[JoeB131]

I'm sure Trump like most business people would love to have Americans working for them, but American labor far out prices foreign labor, and the American consumer demands cheaply made products. It's not only Trump's problem, it's a problem with all our manufacturing in this country.

Guy, Trump doesn't give a fuck about Americans.... He's a narcissist. He only cares about himself.

So how about making American labor more efficient?

We can start by cutting Nine figure CEO Salaries.. that would be more efficient.

Now that people found even lower prices online, more and more brick and mortar stores are closing all the time. The only time I shop online is when I can't find something at a store; not that we have many stores open here.

Of course you don't. Your city is a fine example of what happens when the One Percent is through with a place.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Guy, Trump doesn't give a fuck about Americans.... He's a narcissist. He only cares about himself.

So how about making American labor more efficient?

We can start by cutting Nine figure CEO Salaries.. that would be more efficient.

Sure it would. Then the company would go right down the drain. Why do you suppose they pay a CEO that kind of money in the first place? If you don't pay your CEO that money, your competitor will and put YOU out of business.

You display your ignorance of business with each and every post on the subject. If I found out that my investment company that handles my IRA put money into companies that overpaid their labor and used forth rate CEO's, I'm getting my money out of that investment company; any intelligent investor would. That's besides the fact that high earning CEO's usually run companies with hundreds of thousands of employees. Reduce their pay and use that money to overpay labor, it amounts to pennies per employee each week.

Of course you don't. Your city is a fine example of what happens when the One Percent is through with a place.

No, my city is a fine example of what happens after decades of Democrat minority leadership.