"Republicans are the party of Lincoln." Umm...

[Delta4Embassy]

Not really no. Yet some guy on Real Time with Bill Maher said this very thing on a recent show. Think he was the guy who worked for National Review.

The modern Republican party is not the party of Lincoln beyond they both spell Republican the same way. But that's where their similarity ends. Today, Lincoln would be a Democrat, not a Republican.

The platform of both parties essentially flipped between 1860 and 1936 according to most historical scholars. Democrats in the South opposing policies of Republicans in the North, and over time both parties assumed positions of the other.

Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms Democrats Republicans

"During the 1860s, Republicans, who dominated northern states, orchestrated an ambitious expansion of federal power, helping to fund the transcontinental railroad, the state university system and the settlement of the West by homesteaders, and instating a national currency and protective tariff. Democrats, who dominated the South, opposed these measures. After the Civil War, Republicans passed laws that granted protections for African Americans and advanced social justice; again, Democrats largely opposed these expansions of power."

 

[occupied]

Both parties have been evolving over the last 50 years to the point that they no longer resemble their historic selves. Separating into conservative-liberal is unprecedented, both parties used to have conservative and liberal wings and bipartisanship was the norm rather than the exception.

 

[Freewill]

Again with revisionist history. What you have to show to prove your point is where the Republican party EVER has done ANYTHING to harm a black person. Platforms were not switched the democrats changed theirs that is all. They quit being knuckle dragging OVERT racists and entered the 20th century. You know, they gave them n...ers a little something.

The argument is also interesting in that the same revisionists that make such claims will claim that Lincoln never wished to end slavery his interest was preserving the Union, only. Two faced at best.

The Republican party has supported every civil rights act since the reconstruction The Republican party is responsible for the all of civil right acts and none would have passed without their support. The Republican party is responsible for MLK birthday, signed into law by Reagan. The NAACP was started by Republicans. The Democrat party has yet to apologize for ONE of its acts against a black man, not one.

The democrat party's past is full of shame and I don't blame the democrats for trying to have people forget their sorted past. But revisionist history should do it. But I will admit there are large segments of our society that would rather believe the lie then confess the truth.

In my opinion the treatment of blacks is a reason there should not even be a democrat party today.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Funny how no one but you is talking about blacks.

 

[Moonglow]

Lincoln did not run on the GOP ticket for his second term...

 

[occupied]

Again with revisionist history. What you have to show to prove your point is where the Republican party EVER has done ANYTHING to harm a black person. Platforms were not switched the democrats changed theirs that is all. They quit being knuckle dragging OVERT racists and entered the 20th century. You know, they gave them n...ers a little something.

The argument is also interesting in that the same revisionists that make such claims will claim that Lincoln never wished to end slavery his interest was preserving the Union, only. Two faced at best.

The Republican party has supported every civil rights act since the reconstruction The Republican party is responsible for the all of civil right acts and none would have passed without their support. The Republican party is responsible for MLK birthday, signed into law by Reagan. The NAACP was started by Republicans. The Democrat party has yet to apologize for ONE of its acts against a black man, not one.

The democrat party's past is full of shame and I don't blame the democrats for trying to have people forget their sorted past. But revisionist history should do it. But I will admit there are large segments of our society that would rather believe the lie then confess the truth.

In my opinion the treatment of blacks is a reason there should not even be a democrat party today.

The republican party used to have liberals and minorities but you guys ran them off and therefore have no right to their legacies or victories. You did welcome the dixiecrats with open arms and therefore inherited their legacy instead, see how that works? You cannot openly despise the same kind of people who fought for civil rights and lay claim to their legacy at the same time.

 

[Freewill]

Again with revisionist history. What you have to show to prove your point is where the Republican party EVER has done ANYTHING to harm a black person. Platforms were not switched the democrats changed theirs that is all. They quit being knuckle dragging OVERT racists and entered the 20th century. You know, they gave them n...ers a little something.

The argument is also interesting in that the same revisionists that make such claims will claim that Lincoln never wished to end slavery his interest was preserving the Union, only. Two faced at best.

The Republican party has supported every civil rights act since the reconstruction The Republican party is responsible for the all of civil right acts and none would have passed without their support. The Republican party is responsible for MLK birthday, signed into law by Reagan. The NAACP was started by Republicans. The Democrat party has yet to apologize for ONE of its acts against a black man, not one.

The democrat party's past is full of shame and I don't blame the democrats for trying to have people forget their sorted past. But revisionist history should do it. But I will admit there are large segments of our society that would rather believe the lie then confess the truth.

In my opinion the treatment of blacks is a reason there should not even be a democrat party today.

The republican party used to have liberals and minorities but you guys ran them off and therefore have no right to their legacies or victories. You did welcome the dixiecrats with open arms and therefore inherited their legacy instead, see how that works? You cannot openly despise the same kind of people who fought for civil rights and lay claim to their legacy at the same time.

You need to break open a history book. The Dixiecrats did not go to the Republcian party that is false it has been shown many times. They left the democrat party for a short period of time then returned to the democrat part when their presidential run failed. there would be absolutely no reason for racist democrats to leave the party of slavery for the party of Lincoln, especially in the south.

 

[Freewill]

The good that Reagan did for black America

Indeed, Andrew Brimmer, the Harvard-trained black economist, the former Federal Reserve Board member, estimated that total black business receipts increased from $12.4 billion in 1982 to $18.1 billion in 1987, translating into an annual average growth rate of 7.9 percent (compared to 5 percent for all U.S. businesses.

The success of the black entrepreneurial class during the Reagan era was rivaled only by the gains of the black middle class.

In fact, black social scientist Bart Landry estimated that that upwardly mobile cohort grew by a third under Reagan's watch, from 3.6 million in 1980 to 4.8 million in 1988. His definition was based on employment in white-collar jobs as well as on income levels.

All told, the middle class constituted more than 40 percent of black households by the end of Reagan's presidency, which was larger than the size of black working class, or the black poor.

The impressive growth of the black middle class during the 1980s was attributable in no small part to the explosive growth of jobs under Reagan, which benefited blacks disproportionately.

Indeed, between 1982 and 1988, total black employment increased by 2 million, a staggering sum. That meant that blacks gained 15 percent of the new jobs created during that span, while accounting for only 11 percent of the working-age population.

Meanwhile, the black jobless rate was cut by almost half between 1982 and 1988. Over the same span, the black employment rate – the percentage of working-age persons holding jobs – increased to record levels, from 49 percent to 56 percent.

The black executive ranks especially prospered under Reagan. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission reported that the number of black managers and officers in corporations with 100 or more employees increased by 30 percent between 1980 and 1985.

During the same period, the number of black professionals increased by an astounding 63 percent.

The burgeoning of the black professional, managerial and executive ranks during the 1980s coincided with a steady growth of the black student population at the nation's colleges and universities in the 1980s.

Even though the number of college-aged blacks decreased during much of the decade, black college enrollment increased by 100,000 between 1980 and 1987, according to the Census Bureau.

Meanwhile, the 1980s saw an improvement in the black high school graduation rate, as the proportion of blacks 18 to 24 years old earning high school diplomas increased from 69.7 percent in 1980 to 76 percent by 1987.

On balance, then, the majority of black Americans made considerable progress in the 1980s.

More of us stayed in high school, graduated and went on to college. More of us were working than ever before, in better jobs and for higher wages.

The black middle class burgeoned to unprecedented size, emerging as the dominant income group in black America. And black business flourished, creating wealth in the black community.

Reps. Owens, Wynn and Watson may think that all of those wondrous developments were simply happenstance.

But the credit goes to Ronald Reagan, who initiated the policies that fostered the economic growth and job creation of the 1980s, which produced the prosperity that most black Americans enjoyed.

 

[Freewill]

The good that Nixon did for blacks:

Between 1969 and 1974, Nixon – who believed that blacks had gotten a raw deal in America and wanted to extend a helping hand:

• raised the civil rights enforcement budget 800 percent;
  
  
• doubled the budget for black colleges;
  
  
• appointed more blacks to federal posts and high positions than any president, including LBJ;
  
  
• adopted the Philadelphia Plan mandating quotas for blacks in unions, and for black scholars in colleges and universities;
  
  
• invented “Black Capitalism” (the Office of Minority Business Enterprise), raised U.S. purchases from black businesses from $9 million to $153 million, increased small business loans to minorities 1,000 percent, increased U.S. deposits in minority-owned banks 4,000 percent;
  
  
• raised the share of Southern schools that were desegregated from 10 percent to 70 percent. Wrote the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights in 1975, “It has only been since 1968 that substantial reduction of racial segregation has taken place in the South.”

Read more at The Neocons and Nixon s southern strategy

 

[occupied]

Again with revisionist history. What you have to show to prove your point is where the Republican party EVER has done ANYTHING to harm a black person. Platforms were not switched the democrats changed theirs that is all. They quit being knuckle dragging OVERT racists and entered the 20th century. You know, they gave them n...ers a little something.

The argument is also interesting in that the same revisionists that make such claims will claim that Lincoln never wished to end slavery his interest was preserving the Union, only. Two faced at best.

The Republican party has supported every civil rights act since the reconstruction The Republican party is responsible for the all of civil right acts and none would have passed without their support. The Republican party is responsible for MLK birthday, signed into law by Reagan. The NAACP was started by Republicans. The Democrat party has yet to apologize for ONE of its acts against a black man, not one.

The democrat party's past is full of shame and I don't blame the democrats for trying to have people forget their sorted past. But revisionist history should do it. But I will admit there are large segments of our society that would rather believe the lie then confess the truth.

In my opinion the treatment of blacks is a reason there should not even be a democrat party today.

The republican party used to have liberals and minorities but you guys ran them off and therefore have no right to their legacies or victories. You did welcome the dixiecrats with open arms and therefore inherited their legacy instead, see how that works? You cannot openly despise the same kind of people who fought for civil rights and lay claim to their legacy at the same time.

You need to break open a history book. The Dixiecrats did not go to the Republcian party that is false it has been shown many times. They left the democrat party for a short period of time then returned to the democrat part when their presidential run failed. there would be absolutely no reason for racist democrats to leave the party of slavery for the party of Lincoln, especially in the south.

Really? Well they seem to have given republicans their attitudes towards liberals and minorities if not their votes then. I live down here and saw it all happen with my own eyes, don't try to pass off that bullshit on me.

 

[Freewill]

Republicans And Democrats Did Not Switch Sides On Racism

The unrelenting efforts by Democrats to shift their racist past onto the backs of Republicans, using the mantra: “the parties switched sides”, necessitated an article addressing this issue.

It does not make sense to believe that racist Democrats suddenly rushed into the Republican Party, especially after Republicans spent nearly 150 years fighting for black civil rights. In fact, the racist Democrats declared they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than a Republican because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks. From the time of its inception in 1854 as the anti-slavery party, the Republican Party has always been the party of freedom and equality for blacks. In essence, the Republican Party is the party of the four F’s: faith, family, fairness and freedom.

As author Michael Scheuer wrote, the Democratic Party is the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism. Democrats have been running black communities for the past 50+ years, and the socialist policies of the Democrats have turned those communities into economic and social wastelands.

Democrats first used brutality and discriminatory laws to stop blacks from voting for Republicans. Democrats now use deception and government handouts to keep blacks from voting for Republicans. In his book, “Dreams From My Father,” President Barack Obama described what he and other Democrats do to poor blacks as “plantation politics.”

 

[Freewill]

OBAMA AND PLANTATION POLITICS


The tens of thousands of Americans participating in Tea Parties across this country – peacefully protesting Obama's socialist actions and policies – are being mocked by President Obama and derided as "racist" by his fellow Democrats and liberal media allies, all in an effort to silence average Americans. Complaints are not allowed about the fact that under Obama's America, all Americans will be dependent on the government for their well-being, just as are poor blacks.

While professing to care about the plight of the poor, Obama continues to take actions that keep blacks impoverished, so he can use black grievances for partisan political gain. In his book "Dreams From My Father", Obama wrote disdainfully about blacks who complain about being poor, yet continue to vote for Democrats — like Obama — who keep them poor. On page 147 of his book, Obama described what he and his fellow Democrats do to poor blacks as "plantation politics" when he wrote: "A plantation. Black people in the worst jobs. The worst housing. Police brutality rampant. But when the so-called black committeemen came around election time, we'd all line up and vote the straight Democratic ticket. Sell our soul for a Christmas turkey."

While in the Illinois Senate, Obama helped keep blacks corralled on the Democratic Party's economic plantation when he provided funding for slum projects in Chicago, as was exposed in the Boston Globe article that can be found on the Internet at:Grim proving ground for Obama s housing policy - The Boston Globe

That Boston Globe article shows how Obama provided millions of tax dollars to his slum lord buddies, including now convicted felon Tony Rezko who contributed hundred of thousands of dollars to Obama's political campaign and helped Obama buy a million-dollar house in a shady real estate deal.

As president, Obama put a poison pill in the Stimulus Bill that kills welfare reform, so that tax dollars can no longer be used to help the poor become self-sufficient through job training and child care assistance. Instead welfare will, once again, become a government handout that keeps poor blacks mired in generational poverty. Welfare has destroyed the black family, and Uncle Sam has replaced the father in black urban homes.

After Obama worked to end the school choice opportunity scholarship program in the District of Columbia that helps poor blacks get a better education, he produced a budget that, astonishingly, eliminates the $85 million designated for the HBCU's (Historically Black Colleges and Universities). In typical hypocritical liberal fashion, Obama is sending his own two children to a private school, while kicking poor blacks out of that same private school and effectively sending the poor blacks back to the failing DC public school system.

 

[Freewill]

Again with revisionist history. What you have to show to prove your point is where the Republican party EVER has done ANYTHING to harm a black person. Platforms were not switched the democrats changed theirs that is all. They quit being knuckle dragging OVERT racists and entered the 20th century. You know, they gave them n...ers a little something.

The argument is also interesting in that the same revisionists that make such claims will claim that Lincoln never wished to end slavery his interest was preserving the Union, only. Two faced at best.

The Republican party has supported every civil rights act since the reconstruction The Republican party is responsible for the all of civil right acts and none would have passed without their support. The Republican party is responsible for MLK birthday, signed into law by Reagan. The NAACP was started by Republicans. The Democrat party has yet to apologize for ONE of its acts against a black man, not one.

The democrat party's past is full of shame and I don't blame the democrats for trying to have people forget their sorted past. But revisionist history should do it. But I will admit there are large segments of our society that would rather believe the lie then confess the truth.

In my opinion the treatment of blacks is a reason there should not even be a democrat party today.

The republican party used to have liberals and minorities but you guys ran them off and therefore have no right to their legacies or victories. You did welcome the dixiecrats with open arms and therefore inherited their legacy instead, see how that works? You cannot openly despise the same kind of people who fought for civil rights and lay claim to their legacy at the same time.

You need to break open a history book. The Dixiecrats did not go to the Republcian party that is false it has been shown many times. They left the democrat party for a short period of time then returned to the democrat part when their presidential run failed. there would be absolutely no reason for racist democrats to leave the party of slavery for the party of Lincoln, especially in the south.

Really? Well they seem to have given republicans their attitudes towards liberals and minorities if not their votes then. I live down here and saw it all happen with my own eyes, don't try to pass off that bullshit on me.

What exactly did you see? Or more to the point what is it you think you remember?

Dixiecrats

On election day 1948, the Dixiecrats won Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina but failed to win any state in which Thurmond appeared as a third-party candidate. In Georgia, Thurmond came in a distant second to Truman. A closer analysis of the Dixiecrat phenomenon revealed an interesting pattern: the Dixiecrats were most successful in the states and counties where black citizens were the most numerous. The Deep South states boasted the largest black populations, and white voters in those states were the most determined to preserve racial segregation and black disenfranchisement, and thus were more likely to vote for the Dixiecrat ticket. A similar trend is evident in county-level election returns, in which Thurmond was more likely to win counties where black populations were large and white voters feared racial change. In the border South, where blacks were less abundant and white voters were less preoccupied with segregation, support for the Dixiecrat candidates was negligible.

Although the Dixiecrats immediately dissolved after the 1948 election, their impact lasted much longer. Many white voters who initially cast Dixiecrat ballots gravitated back toward the Democratic Party only grudgingly, and they remained nominal Democrats at best. Ultimately, the Dixiecrat movement paved the way for the rise of the modern Republican Party in the South. Many former Dixiecrat supporters eventually became Republicans, as was highlighted by Strom Thurmond's conversion in the 1960s.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Again with revisionist history. What you have to show to prove your point is where the Republican party EVER has done ANYTHING to harm a black person. Platforms were not switched the democrats changed theirs that is all. They quit being knuckle dragging OVERT racists and entered the 20th century. You know, they gave them n...ers a little something.

The argument is also interesting in that the same revisionists that make such claims will claim that Lincoln never wished to end slavery his interest was preserving the Union, only. Two faced at best.

The Republican party has supported every civil rights act since the reconstruction The Republican party is responsible for the all of civil right acts and none would have passed without their support. The Republican party is responsible for MLK birthday, signed into law by Reagan. The NAACP was started by Republicans. The Democrat party has yet to apologize for ONE of its acts against a black man, not one.

The democrat party's past is full of shame and I don't blame the democrats for trying to have people forget their sorted past. But revisionist history should do it. But I will admit there are large segments of our society that would rather believe the lie then confess the truth.

In my opinion the treatment of blacks is a reason there should not even be a democrat party today.

The Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater for PRESIDENT the same year he voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The modern conservative Republican is more a Jefferson Davis than an Abraham Lincoln.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Again with revisionist history. What you have to show to prove your point is where the Republican party EVER has done ANYTHING to harm a black person. Platforms were not switched the democrats changed theirs that is all. They quit being knuckle dragging OVERT racists and entered the 20th century. You know, they gave them n...ers a little something.

The argument is also interesting in that the same revisionists that make such claims will claim that Lincoln never wished to end slavery his interest was preserving the Union, only. Two faced at best.

The Republican party has supported every civil rights act since the reconstruction The Republican party is responsible for the all of civil right acts and none would have passed without their support. The Republican party is responsible for MLK birthday, signed into law by Reagan. The NAACP was started by Republicans. The Democrat party has yet to apologize for ONE of its acts against a black man, not one.

The democrat party's past is full of shame and I don't blame the democrats for trying to have people forget their sorted past. But revisionist history should do it. But I will admit there are large segments of our society that would rather believe the lie then confess the truth.

In my opinion the treatment of blacks is a reason there should not even be a democrat party today.

The Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater for PRESIDENT the same year he voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Goldwater was against Civil Right on the grounds that all that was necessary to lift up blacks was get the Democrat to stop acting like savages.

Also, your Democrat President used the "n" word as frequently as a preacher said "Jesus" and also promised to "have them ******* voting Democrat for the next 200 years"

 

[regent]

This gets kind of confusing but it sounds like blacks now vote Republican because Republicans are the liberal party.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Most republicans hate Lincoln. Go anywhere in the deep south where they proudly fly the confederate rag and ask them about Lincoln. Those ignorant boobs were dixiecrats before the Civil Rights movement. Now they're all solidly republican.

And people wonder why 1964 is the last time a Democrat presidential candidate won the majority of the white vote.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If modern day conservatives reflect the politics of Abraham Lincoln, and since we have many modern day conservatives here at USMB,

why don't those of you who fit that description step up and tell us all of the Lincoln policies/positions/beliefs that you support?

 

[whitehall]

Granted the GOP is sometimes a stodgy old party that moves relatively slowly. The democrat party however turns on a freaking dime. The democrats were the party of racism and segregation in the 60's and the party of anarchy during the entire 2nd half of the 20th century and then seemed to flip flop into the party of benevolence and love. It wasn't that the democrat party changed but their methods of propaganda became more sophisticated through the assistance of the liberal media. Democrats are still racist and angry to the point of anarchy but in the tiny world of comedian Bill Maher it's all about republicans.