Republican bill stops funding to states issuing DL's to illegals

[beautress]

Funny they do nothing about stopping them from working.

The Democrats is using immigrants for votes. They don't mind if each family costs every taxpayer in America $100,000 a year in services, housing, and food whether or not they work. They don't mind lying about printing more money as being a free way out of paying the tab at the end of the day. That's looney tunes and sets this entire nation up to being in debt to the zillionaire who supplied the backup for Democrats' assent to power in which they abuse all Conservative Americans for not going along with their particular fiscal insanity, which weakens us. And when Conservatives try to pull America out of its jobless slump, the Democrats use illegal and hateful means of stopping their free access to America's credit line. Right now, the Princess fool in charge of all of America's money is Maxine Waters, who is so powerful she told her minions to do illegal stalking of the Presidential staff a couple of years back. When she was pinned down by her colleagues for doing that with a mild massage to her wrist (never a slap on Maxine's wrist, no, no), Maxine altered her narrative to "I'm going to take Trump down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" This is criminalspeak for murdering someone. Just her mouth should have put her in jail until the FBI got around to questioning her as to why she would like to murder President Trump, and keeping her locked up for awhile until she cools the hell off. Nothing at present indicates her willingness to do the traditional thing in Congress and be a diplomatic person to her fellow Americans. In her mind her only fellow Americans are Democrats, which is why she is unfit for being the chairperson overlooking America's money, and at this point, America's credit line to mega-billionaires from all over the world who still have confidence in America's workers.

We need to get away from Maxine Waters. She's black, and every time she is disciplined, she brings up her race and how bad people who never owned a slave are. Because not one of us lived back in civil war days nor owned a slave. Maxine, however wants to treat conservatives like noncitizens, and illegal aliens like deserving fellow citizens so long as they kiss her behiney by voting her back in. And she has the power and motivation to look them up as Hillary Clinton teaches her fellow Democrats by doing. They're information queens around the DNC headquarters. They want information on you so they can threaten you if you stray from the Socialism narrative.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We have had this argument before

if we seal the border and deport known illegal aliens then beefing up the punishment for KNOWINGLY hiring illegal aliens will have broad support from the republican base

I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you

Your lib friend wants to punish employers and I pointed out what it will take to do it

Keep your bridge since your probably paid more for it than it was worth

You can punish employers RIGHT NOW. Do it and the illegal jobs will dry up. There would be no need for a wall

Like the rightwingers, you need to stop using the term "The Wall". We need to secure our borders using any and all methods available to us. This includes the Ports of Entry, the high traffic areas, the areas that are almost a death sentence to try, going under it, going over it or going through it. We need to use the Wall where it's applicable, Security Fencing where it works best, sensors where the other methods don't work well but most of all, get more boots on the ground with proper communication.

Give temporary work visas and allow them to pay taxes

We do that already, but we can't give everybody a Visa that wants to come here to work or have kids. The United States allows nearly a million people a year to become citizens of our great country, and that's no top of all the Visa's and green cards we hand out. No other country in the world is as generous as we are.

When it comes to immigrants, nobody does more for foreigners that we do.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

1. I agree that immigrants should all be authorized to live here.

2. But this is not a perfect world (to say the least).

3. Millions of unauthorized immigrants are here and they work. They need to get to their jobs. They are going to drive, license or no.

4. So giving them a license helps to bring a little order to an otherwise chaotic situation.

It helps them to feel more welcomed about coming here and breaking our laws. If an immigrant is caught driving without a license, they should be arrested, and then handed over to ICE for deportation.

 

[Thinker101]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It raises the status of illegals closer to that of citizens.

No it doesn’t

It just shows they have the skills and training to drive a car.

They are horrible drivers.

So are white teenage boys but they still get licenses.

True, but they are here LEGALLY...dumbass.

 

[Mac-7]

1. I agree that immigrants should all be authorized to live here.

2. But this is not a perfect world (to say the least).

3. Millions of unauthorized immigrants are here and they work. They need to get to their jobs. They are going to drive, license or no.

4. So giving them a license helps to bring a little order to an otherwise chaotic situation.

Deporting them is a better fix

 

[Mr Natural]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It raises the status of illegals closer to that of citizens.

Yeah, so?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Sealing the border will stop about half of the illegal alien invasion

but yes we need to follow up on visa overstays which are the other half of the invasion

No, it's already been recorded that 90% of the illegals come in through the ports of entry. And it's not just the overstaying of the Visas it's also the fake entry papers.

That has not even been alleged by any credible source much less proven

but if we do both types of law enforcement the question is moot

Okay, I'll give you the win on this. You seem to need one and who am I to deny you a win once in awhile.

Thank you Daryl but this is not personal with me

Ending illegal alien migration is good for America

It's personal to me. I have friends that are nearing shutting down businesses that have been affected by the illegal workforces. Some have already shut down and now work at some min wage job. That's one hell of a lot of American Talent to lose.

Turns Out, Trump’s ‘Evil’ ICE Raids Benefited American Workers

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It raises the status of illegals closer to that of citizens.

Yeah, so?

If you don't already understand the ramifications, there's literally no reason for me to explain them to you.

 

[Mac-7]

No, it's already been recorded that 90% of the illegals come in through the ports of entry. And it's not just the overstaying of the Visas it's also the fake entry papers.

That has not even been alleged by any credible source much less proven

but if we do both types of law enforcement the question is moot

Okay, I'll give you the win on this. You seem to need one and who am I to deny you a win once in awhile.

Thank you Daryl but this is not personal with me

Ending illegal alien migration is good for America

It's personal to me. I have friends that are nearing shutting down businesses that have been affected by the illegal workforces. Some have already shut down and now work at some min wage job. That's one hell of a lot of American Talent to lose.

Turns Out, Trump’s ‘Evil’ ICE Raids Benefited American Workers

This is a big story that deserves more attention

The Times story focuses on Juan Grant, a young black man two years out of high school who landed a job at the plant and boosted his wage by $4 an hour. He “strode into the Koch Foods chicken processing plant for his new job on a Wednesday morning, joining many other African Americans in a procession of rubber boots, hairnets, and last cigarettes before the grinds.”

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Since they won't be and we continue to allow them to work, we need to make sure they can drive safely.

Then we need to start busting those that hire them in the first place. Make a Felony and then enforce it. Except the Right doesn't want it enforced since companies like Trump Industries hire them on a regular basis far below what they could an American worker. And when the Illegal demands a decent wage, they just call ice and have them rounded up and bring in the next "Shift".

We have had this argument before

if we seal the border and deport known illegal aliens then beefing up the punishment for KNOWINGLY hiring illegal aliens will have broad support from the republican base

I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you

Your lib friend wants to punish employers and I pointed out what it will take to do it

Keep your bridge since your probably paid more for it than it was worth

You can punish employers RIGHT NOW. Do it and the illegal jobs will dry up. There would be no need for a wall

We do that already, but you have to prove in court the employer knew they were hiring illegals. With all the fake documentation being sold to immigrants, it's tough for employers to distinguish legal from illegal foreigners.

What would work is a law that being here illegally is a felony. First offense if caught would be a minimum of five years in prison. I stress the word "minimum." A judge could give up to ten years. Then we wouldn't need a wall.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, we need to deport all known illegal aliens. But only after due process. The problem we have is, our Immigration Courts are overloaded and are at least a couple of years behind. We need to temporarily get at least twice the Immigration Courts going and get rid of the surplus of waiting court cases. This is doable.

Trump was well ahead of you on that one.

Exclusive: Immigration judges headed to 12 U.S. cities to speed deportations

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And guess who pays for their insurance?

Once illegals have licenses they can buy insurance

And they can also drive in any state that doesn't want illegals driving.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It raises the status of illegals closer to that of citizens.

No it doesn’t

It just shows they have the skills and training to drive a car.

They are horrible drivers.

Exactly....that is why making them learn the rules of the road and demonstrate skills will make us safer

You're another typical lefty. Lock up American business people for hiring illegals while the Democrats give them licenses to get to those jobs they're not supposed to have.

Do you understand why we on the right consider us superior to the left when it comes to common sense?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?

Another dumbass comment. It also let's illegals get to and from American jobs they should not have, it gives them the "semblance" of legality and being citizens. I allows them to open bank accounts illegally and too many other things to mention to a know nothing moron. Sheeese.

And when you are going to start going after the major employers that employ these illegals? When are you going to start locking them up as well. I suggest you start with Rump and his Kids and Son-in-Law and many of his business associates and donors.

One thing at a time...

Driver's Licensing is merely the mechanism du jour, to attack Sanctuary status in various jurisdictions...

Time to begin spanking those who stand with Illegal Aliens rather than their fellow countrymen...

You know... in a way sure to make them notice... their Sanctuary State pocketbooks...

Maybe it's time to start locking up the employers where they won't need the drivers licenses, housing rentals, etc.. We can start with Rump Industries.

As a landlord myself, how am I able to distinguish between a legal resident and a non-legal resident?

 

[TheParser]

1. I agree that immigrants should all be authorized to live here.

2. But this is not a perfect world (to say the least).

3. Millions of unauthorized immigrants are here and they work. They need to get to their jobs. They are going to drive, license or no.

4. So giving them a license helps to bring a little order to an otherwise chaotic situation.

It helps them to feel more welcomed about coming here and breaking our laws. If an immigrant is caught driving without a license, they should be arrested, and then handed over to ICE for deportation.

That ain't gonna happen.

The number of unauthorized immigrants has passed the point of no return.

They have powerful supporters who will never allow again mass deportations.

We have to move on. This is a new America now.

 

[Dick Foster]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It just makes sure drivers have the proper skills and training?

Bullshit! It's inviting illegal voting and both you and I know it unless you're really that stupid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Illegal aliens should be deported instead of coddled by giving them permission to drive on our streets

Since they won't be and we continue to allow them to work, we need to make sure they can drive safely.

No, we need to arrest and deport them if caught driving without a drivers license.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Of course they don't. And commies don't do anything about their children attending our schools, voting in local elections, giving them drivers licenses so they can get to those jobs you speak of, creating policy that prohibits their police force from working with ICE. But let's not go after Democrats. Let's go after Americans employers that hire them knowingly or unknowingly.

Yes, because without them they don't come here to start with.

Of course not. They don't come here for the industry of Birther Tourism. They don't come here for public aid for their children. They don't come here to take care of legal immigrant family members. They only come here to work illegally.

That's right because they can not survive here without the jobs. No one can live on nothing while waiting to give birth. No one can live on food stamps alone.

If the jobs aren't here, they don't come but the Republicans (and many Democrats) want them to come to fill jobs to keep wages depressed.

given
the estimate that we have 20 million illegals in this country, are you really stupid enough to believe that most or all of those 20 million are working illegally in this country?

Someone is to provide for the ones that aren't. If the jobs go, they all go.

So are you really that dense to believe that all 20 million are working jobs illegally?

It's sad how dishonest you are.

How am I dishonest?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

1. I agree that immigrants should all be authorized to live here.

2. But this is not a perfect world (to say the least).

3. Millions of unauthorized immigrants are here and they work. They need to get to their jobs. They are going to drive, license or no.

4. So giving them a license helps to bring a little order to an otherwise chaotic situation.

It helps them to feel more welcomed about coming here and breaking our laws. If an immigrant is caught driving without a license, they should be arrested, and then handed over to ICE for deportation.

That ain't gonna happen.

The number of unauthorized immigrants has passed the point of no return.

They have powerful supporters who will never allow again mass deportations.

We have to move on. This is a new America now.

Well that's what made this country great, giving up.

I'll stick to electing representatives that care more about Americans than foreigners, namely the conservatives in the Republican party.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What does a Drivers License have to do with immigration?

It raises the status of illegals closer to that of citizens.

Yeah, so?

So law breakers should not be catered to.