Republic of Türkiye

[politicsezine]

So the logic says, where Oil is is also gas, and where those 2 are, there is a high potential that there will be discovered more. More so, if Romania already produces oil in Black Sea and Ukraine has also found oil reserves in Black Sea.

WTF?

Crude oil is made into gasoline (also known as petroleum) in an oil refinery. Gasoline isn't found naturally in the world.

Unless you're thinking of natural gas, in which case you should say natural gas. Otherwise it is just confusing.

To my knowledge nobody drills for natural gas offshore anyway. Its just not done. We have tonnes of natural gas anyway. There's no shortage of it.

And if you were thinking in terms of gasoline... well, sheesh. That is as bad as the vegetarian who only drinks powdered milk because they think dairy farms torture cows for the milk (when in reality powdered milk is made from real milk anyway).

Vegetarians are so clueless sometimes. Especially when they wear leather jackets and boots. Such hypocrites.

 

[ekrem]

I know, that many of you do not have much knowledge about Turkey. The knowledge you might have is a bit on foreign policy and through an US perspective.

I want to write about the closure case against the AKP and what might come next.
For this you have to know, that current Prime Minister Erdogan is a very charismatic leader. He is nearly unmatched in approaching the publics. Also his talking skills are very good.
In short he is very popular. In Turkey "political parties" are not that important as it is the leaders of the parties. The electors do vote for the persons leading the party and not necassarily for the programme of the party.

Also when Erdogan came to power, it happened through a new founded party. The AKP. The time frame also played into the hands of the new party, as AKP was elected into office in 2002, and just months ago in 2001 Turkey had the worst economic crisis since Republic's foundation.
People were sick of old dinosaurs in Turkish politics, and might have thought that these dinosaurs were given enough chance and they did lead Turkey in a economic crisis. So AKP was elected.

For example former president Süleyman Demirel has lead DYP party over 30 years. Current leader of CHP party is about 70 years old and has lead the party into election 6 times, never achieving victory, but staying at the head of the party.
This is what it is called being dinosaur.

Turkish people think very much with the heart. And sometimes irrationally. Many depends on persons in politics.
And AKP party will get closed. It is an unspoken secret. Not so secret if i think more about.

There is a person which was deputy in AKP, state minister for economics. But today he resigned from AKP party. Paralelly he teaches economics in TOBB University.
His name is Sener. He is very young, and as much talented in approaching the masses as Erdogan is. Also he is a professor and all polls in Turkey show, that he is one of the most trusted and loved persons in politics.
There is for long rumours in Turkish newspapers floating that Sener will form a new party. The party has the support of TOBB, which is the "Union of Chambers and Commodity Exchanges of Turkey" and is very powerfull. Sener also is Professor at an TOBB University. TOBB is together with TÜSIAD (Association of Turkish Business) the most powerfull civil institution within Turkey.
What they say counts, as money makes the talk.

Head of TOBB is Hisarciklioglu who hisself is a factor when talking about Turkish economy. It is being said, that Hisarciklioglu will also take a leading role within Sener's new party. So the party will be lead by Professors and leading business persons of the country. This is an important message for the public, as it implies that public can vote for them without fearing they will crash the economy.

Today Sener resigned from AKP party officially. And today also there where advertises in Turkish newspapers of a new party being formed with Sener's picture on the advertise.

AKP will get banned in about 3-6 weeks. Turkey will have new elections in fall of this year. And there is a very high chance that the masses will give confidence to this new party in the elections to be held in fall this year.
The AKP is getting destroyed, and split from within. When AKP is being banned, there will be transfers from former AKP members to the new party. Off course Sener will select them and off course only members will be transferred who will not have a political ban by the Constitutional court in about 3-6 weeks.

It is being said in newspaper articles, that about 60 AKP members of Turkish parliament have already signaled to switch to the new party.
Sener is 54, Hisarciklioglu 53. So this is fresh blood in an environment of dinosaurs.
Also, allthough you as US citizens might not know the names, there are several names from former politics and civil society who will start career in Sener's party.
Newspapers report that Sener and his gang are in the believe that to be elected there is being the need for a strong squad, who are clean (corruption) and have sympathies in the public.

I think Sener will be new Prime Minister of Turkey in some months. Good for Turkey. He is very talented, a person of integrity, can talk very well and the masses love him.
As a bonus he is one of the most competent men in Turkey in cases of Economy.

 

[ekrem]

From Jamestown Foundation.
ABDULLATIF SENER: A DIVISIVE FACTOR OR THE NEW POLITICAL LEADER OF TURKEY? - Eurasia Daily Monitor

In short:
- Sener is one of 4 founding members of AKP.
- Polls reveal Sener is most appreciated political leader in center right after Gül and Erdogan.
- Sener did critizize corruption within AKP and therefore declined to be Parliament Member for AKP in July 2007 elections.
- has support of biggest media conglomerate in Turkey (Dogan Holding).
- is currently holding rallies and meetings in conservative cities mainly with AKP voters.
- is respected by ultra-secularists of society

It seems that Sener’s role in short-term politics will be to divide the ruling party, but it is not clear how deep a political wound he might leave on the face of the AKP, since there is absolutely no sign as to what Erdogan’s plan will be if the court shuts his party down. Sener is in a critical position and must play the right cards at just the right time. Sener could become Erdogan’s Brutus or, with the help of the political climate and a bit of luck, he could be the next leader of Turkey.

And what Jamestownfoundation did not mentioned:
- One of the wisest men in Turkish economics
- Currently serving as professor in University of TOBB ::TOBB ETU:: TOBB UNIVERSITY OF ECONOMICS AND TECHNOLOGY
- has support of TOBB, Union of Chambers and Exchange Commodities which consists of 178 Industry Chambers, 60 commerce chambers, 113 Exchanges, 2 Sea Trade Chambers.
Has 1,3 Million members.
Türkiye Odalar ve Borsalar Birli?i - Vikipedi

 

[ekrem]

Today is a good day for Israelian-Turkish relations.
There were for years talks about pipelines to be built between Turkey and Israel, which interconnects both countries. There was since years goodwill for this project and also a study team was selected to make a preliminary feasibility study.

The feasibility study shows that the project is economicaly viable and in the next weeks a framework agreement will be signed between Israel and Turkey. A Turkish team will visit Israel in next days.
The target completion date is 2012-2013.
There will be built
- oil pipeline (20-50 million tonnes a year)
- natural gas pipeline (4-10 billion m³)
- electricity pipeline (4,200 MW)
- water pipeline (400 million - 1 billion m³)

All crossing the Mediteranean from Turkish Ceyhan to Israelian Haifa.
Turkey will supply Israel with those 4 ressources.
Read more at Israelian Ministry
Messages - Med Stream

 

[ekrem]

Today SSM (Arms Procurement Authority) chose German U-214 submarines.
The submarines are engined by hydrogen fuelcells and are very modern.
Type 214 submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turkey will order 6 pieces, with the first entering service in 2015.
The submarines will be built in Gölcük Naval Military Shipyard near Istanbul.
Turkish industrial participation will be at 80 percent. Around 20 of the systems and sub-systems of U-214 will be built by Turkish industry.
UPDATE 3-Turkey in $4 bln submarines deal with HDW | Industries | Autos & Transport | Reuters

Nice. Turkey already has great experience with German submarines. We produced them all local, with a mix of German-Turkish industry participation as it will be again with U-214 order.
Turkey will remain its status as described here:

The Turkish Navy is also the largest operator of German-designed submarines in the world.

Type 209 submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ekrem]

3 days left till first MILGEM corvette will be released to sea:
Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanlýðý Resmi Kurumsal Ýnternet Sitesidir - Anasayfa - Turkish Naval Forces Official Web Site - Main Page

MILGEMs will be produced 12 times and are indigenious. Displacement is 2.000 tonnes.
It is a stealth corvette ship.
You can read here from "Arms Procurement Authority" which sub-projects and sub-components were developed for MILGEM.
Patrol & Anti-Submarine Warfare Ship (MILGEM) Project

Stealth materials and paints have developed by Aselsan-Tubitak-ODTU. The most important feature of the new materials is that they provide high absorption and reduce the radar cross section by 1/1000, which means it enables a 100-squaremeter object to be perceived as 0.1 square meter.

A derivate of MILGEM will be "TF-100"-Type Frigate. This derivate will be longer and will displace more tonnes. MILGEM is Anti-Submarine Corvette.
"TF-100" will be multirole Frigate.
Milgem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After MILGEM and TF-100 Projects are completed, TF-2000 project will begin.
TF-2000 will be a complete different design and is intended for Anti-Air warfare with a displacement of 5.500 tonnes.
According to CNN-Türk TF-2000 project will add a volume of 15 billion $ to Turkish defence industry:
CNNTürk 2008 - Sava? Gemisi Çal??tay? ?ubatta toplan?yor

"Arms Procurement Authority" approved building of 4 TF-2000 ships
TF 2000 Project

 

[Sunni Man]

Turkey is making a mistake in dealing with the Zionist leadership of Israel.

Someday Turkey will regret dealing with Israel.

 

[ekrem]

Turkey is making a mistake in dealing with the Zionist leadership of Israel.

Someday Turkey will regret dealing with Israel.

If Turkey is going to regret anything or change anything this motivation will come from inside Turkey. Off course no nation is really fully independent in this globalized world, but leaving aside globalization with shocks unable to prevent from being felt also in Turkey, Turks do make their own politics in full independence.

There is no one around being able to let Turkey regret anything.

 

[ekrem]

Today was a special day in Astronomy. Jupiter stood near to the moon.
Here a picture taken from Turkish city Edirne:

And some history (picture taken from Wikipedia, Software "stellarium")

 

[Annie]

Today was a special day in Astronomy. Jupiter stood near to the moon.
Here a picture taken from Turkish city Edirne:

And some history (picture taken from Wikipedia, Software "stellarium")

So Canavar, you've jumped the shark, big time. Congrats!

 

[Lycurgus]

If Turkey is going to regret anything or change anything this motivation will come from inside Turkey. Off course no nation is really fully independent in this globalized world, but leaving aside globalization with shocks unable to prevent from being felt also in Turkey, Turks do make their own politics in full independence.

There is no one around being able to let Turkey regret anything.

Tell me something, which group do you work for?

And why lobby this site?

Further, if anyone wants some insight into the Turks, they can look at how they treated us when we needed them. And it had nothing to do with them feeling that going into Iraq was wrong. It was because we would not be letting them slaughter the Kurds as they have in the past.

 

[ekrem]

Tell me something, which group do you work for?

And why lobby this site?

Further, if anyone wants some insight into the Turks, they can look at how they treated us when we needed them. And it had nothing to do with them feeling that going into Iraq was wrong. It was because we would not be letting them slaughter the Kurds as they have in the past.

I am working for no "group", you?
You live in a small world if you think Turkey is defined by its decision not to allow US soldiers on its territory. Maybe you are confuseing the issue, Turkey is no US dog relying on US security guarantees or being dictated policies to follow. We brew our own beer and as Turkey gets more involved in regional politics, everyone (includeing the US) has to be cautious and must sleep over the issue of follow-up damage by provoking Turkish reaction. We have witnessed this between US and Turkey the last years and the outcome of this is that US decided not to push too much against Turkey. Despite Iraq war has been catastrophic for region and Iraq issue will be a conflict zone between regional powers even when US redeployed to a non-relevant presence in this region, Iraq issue is now being shaped by US in compliance to Turkish interests, and US gets word Turkey will not occupy North-Iraq in a large-scale. In practical this means US giving up policy of Turkish blockade into Iraqi realpolitics. US for itself does not need to follow policy of strengthening centralist Iraq, geo-political reality of Turkey ensures other regional powers of not following policy to divide Iraq up. Namely Iran.

Stratfor has received word that Turkish President Abdullah Gul recently reached a deal with U.S. President George W. Bush on the question of Kirkuk and Turkish military intervention in northern Iraq. In return for the shelving of U.S. plans to hold the Kirkuk referendum, Turkey allegedly has promised not to launch a large-scale military incursion into northern Iraq and instead will stick to cross-border shelling and occasional airstrikes.

Free Preview of Members-Only Content | Stratfor


Of factions within Iraq (Kurds) i do not even talk about, this geography is no musical request programme. Despite Iraq being a ressource power, Iraq as an entity has lost ability to keep up with other regional powers: Iran, Saudi-Arabia and Turkey. If you look at Iraq on a faction/sectarian/ethnic level each faction is being doomed to a vasall status. This may sound arrogant but it is the truth what Iraq awaits as an entity and on faction level.

 

[ekrem]

Turkish president is currently for a 4-day visit in Russia.
There was important developments.
Russia and Turkey agreed to switch their trade transactions to local currencies, Rubel and Turkish Lira.
Turkey, Russia agree on TL-ruble area in bilateral trade
World Bulletin [ Turkey, Russia agree on TL-ruble area in bilateral trade ]


Some deals were made worth 60 to 80 billion $:
$US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow
Russia and Turkey have signed a 15-year energy contract worth $US 60 billion. The agreements were reached while Turkish President Abdullah Gul is in Moscow for a four day official visit.
Russian Energy Minister Sergey Shmatko says the two countries have also almost agreed to build four reactors for a potential nuclear plant in Turkey, which could cost $US 18-20 billion. Each reactor would have 1200 MW of power. The project is planned to be finished within six years.
RT: News : $US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow


Then there was signed an strategic cooperation agreement:

Putin says Turkey 'priority' for Russian foreign policy
http://en.rian.ru/world/20090213/120131597.html

Presidents of Russia, Turkey adopt strategic declaration
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090213/120126947.html

Russia, Turkey hail flourishing neighbourhood ties
AFP: Russia, Turkey hail flourishing neighbourhood ties

 

[Munin]

Tell me something, which group do you work for?

And why lobby this site?

Further, if anyone wants some insight into the Turks, they can look at how they treated us when we needed them. And it had nothing to do with them feeling that going into Iraq was wrong. It was because we would not be letting them slaughter the Kurds as they have in the past.

I am working for no "group", you?
You live in a small world if you think Turkey is defined by its decision not to allow US soldiers on its territory. Maybe you are confuseing the issue, Turkey is no US dog relying on US security guarantees or being dictated policies to follow. We brew our own beer and as Turkey gets more involved in regional politics, everyone (includeing the US) has to be cautious and must sleep over the issue of follow-up damage by provoking Turkish reaction. We have witnessed this between US and Turkey the last years and the outcome of this is that US decided not to push too much against Turkey. Despite Iraq war has been catastrophic for region and Iraq issue will be a conflict zone between regional powers even when US redeployed to a non-relevant presence in this region, Iraq issue is now being shaped by US in compliance to Turkish interests, and US gets word Turkey will not occupy North-Iraq in a large-scale. In practical this means US giving up policy of Turkish blockade into Iraqi realpolitics. US for itself does not need to follow policy of strengthening centralist Iraq, geo-political reality of Turkey ensures other regional powers of not following policy to divide Iraq up. Namely Iran.

Stratfor has received word that Turkish President Abdullah Gul recently reached a deal with U.S. President George W. Bush on the question of Kirkuk and Turkish military intervention in northern Iraq. In return for the shelving of U.S. plans to hold the Kirkuk referendum, Turkey allegedly has promised not to launch a large-scale military incursion into northern Iraq and instead will stick to cross-border shelling and occasional airstrikes.

Free Preview of Members-Only Content | Stratfor


Of factions within Iraq (Kurds) i do not even talk about, this geography is no musical request programme. Despite Iraq being a ressource power, Iraq as an entity has lost ability to keep up with other regional powers: Iran, Saudi-Arabia and Turkey. If you look at Iraq on a faction/sectarian/ethnic level each faction is being doomed to a vasall status. This may sound arrogant but it is the truth what Iraq awaits as an entity and on faction level.

Turkish people are very, very pride about their country, ekrem here is a good example of it.


A bit like americans that have so much patriotism, so glad to put an american flag everywhere it is possible : this site is a good example of it



I find it also a confusing country: is it muslim? or is it secular?

We brew our own beer

Muslims do not drink alcohol.

 

[Shogun]

If Turkey is going to regret anything or change anything this motivation will come from inside Turkey. Off course no nation is really fully independent in this globalized world, but leaving aside globalization with shocks unable to prevent from being felt also in Turkey, Turks do make their own politics in full independence.

There is no one around being able to let Turkey regret anything.

Tell me something, which group do you work for?

And why lobby this site?

Further, if anyone wants some insight into the Turks, they can look at how they treated us when we needed them. And it had nothing to do with them feeling that going into Iraq was wrong. It was because we would not be letting them slaughter the Kurds as they have in the past.

Gosh, i don't recall you asking toomuchtime_ that same question.. geee, the double standard is amazing. A turk posting about his muslim nation gets flak while the standard issue retinue of zionist jews get nothing less than a sloppy blowjob. SAY IT AINT SO!

 

[ekrem]

Turkish president is currently for a 4-day visit in Russia.
There was important developments.
Russia and Turkey agreed to switch their trade transactions to local currencies, Rubel and Turkish Lira.
Turkey, Russia agree on TL-ruble area in bilateral trade
World Bulletin [ Turkey, Russia agree on TL-ruble area in bilateral trade ]


Some deals were made worth 60 to 80 billion $:
$US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow
Russia and Turkey have signed a 15-year energy contract worth $US 60 billion. The agreements were reached while Turkish President Abdullah Gul is in Moscow for a four day official visit.
Russian Energy Minister Sergey Shmatko says the two countries have also almost agreed to build four reactors for a potential nuclear plant in Turkey, which could cost $US 18-20 billion. Each reactor would have 1200 MW of power. The project is planned to be finished within six years.
RT: News : $US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow


Then there was signed an strategic cooperation agreement:

Putin says Turkey 'priority' for Russian foreign policy
RIA Novosti - World - Putin says Turkey 'priority' for Russian foreign policy

Presidents of Russia, Turkey adopt strategic declaration
RIA Novosti - Russia - Presidents of Russia, Turkey adopt strategic declaration

Russia, Turkey hail flourishing neighbourhood ties
AFP: Russia, Turkey hail flourishing neighbourhood ties

Turkey will build a total of 3 nuclear power plants. The nuclear power plants will be built and operated by private sector. The first tender to build the first nuclear power plant on the south coast of Turkey in Akkuyu was won by a Russian-Turkish consortium. The consortium consists of a Russian energy distributor, a Turkish energy distributor and the Russian state company for nuclear technology.

The consortium offered to build the VVER-1200 type reactor. That reactor is the newest developed reactor Russia has to offer. The reactor itself is not being installed in Russia, yet.
But the Russian government has authorized to build 6 nuclear reactors on VVER-1200 technology in Russia between 2011-2015:
Russian government approved a General plan of power industry objects placement till 2020

The Nuclear power plant in Akkuyu has a design of 4 * 1.200 MW reactors and has a project value of 18 to 20 Billion $.
RT: News : $US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow

The next tender will be for the nuclear power plant on the north coast in Turkey in Sinop.
Where the 3rd nuclear power plant will be built is not decided, yet, but press reports indicate, that in Sinop will be built also the 3rd nuclear power plant.

All these nuclear power plants will be built and operated by the private sector, no state involvement. The state itself currently develops an indigenious reactor technology. The aim is to produce a 100 MW reactor by 2015. The project is financed with 3 billion TL (current exchange rate = 1,8 billion $) and finace was approved by government in 2007:
Nükleer için TAEK’e 3 milyar YTL kaynak

The first round of nuclear power plants is private company related. In the first round there will be built 3 nuclear power plants with foreign technology. The 3 nuclear power plants will produce about 14.000 to 15.000 MW. So each plant is designed containing several reactors.

 

[roomy]

Turkish president is currently for a 4-day visit in Russia.
There was important developments.
Russia and Turkey agreed to switch their trade transactions to local currencies, Rubel and Turkish Lira.
Turkey, Russia agree on TL-ruble area in bilateral trade
World Bulletin [ Turkey, Russia agree on TL-ruble area in bilateral trade ]


Some deals were made worth 60 to 80 billion $:
$US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow
Russia and Turkey have signed a 15-year energy contract worth $US 60 billion. The agreements were reached while Turkish President Abdullah Gul is in Moscow for a four day official visit.
Russian Energy Minister Sergey Shmatko says the two countries have also almost agreed to build four reactors for a potential nuclear plant in Turkey, which could cost $US 18-20 billion. Each reactor would have 1200 MW of power. The project is planned to be finished within six years.
RT: News : $US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow


Then there was signed an strategic cooperation agreement:

Putin says Turkey 'priority' for Russian foreign policy
RIA Novosti - World - Putin says Turkey 'priority' for Russian foreign policy

Presidents of Russia, Turkey adopt strategic declaration
RIA Novosti - Russia - Presidents of Russia, Turkey adopt strategic declaration

Russia, Turkey hail flourishing neighbourhood ties
AFP: Russia, Turkey hail flourishing neighbourhood ties

Turkey will build a total of 3 nuclear power plants. The nuclear power plants will be built and operated by private sector. The first tender to build the first nuclear power plant on the south coast of Turkey in Akkuyu was won by a Russian-Turkish consortium. The consortium consists of a Russian energy distributor, a Turkish energy distributor and the Russian state company for nuclear technology.

The consortium offered to build the VVER-1200 type reactor. That reactor is the newest developed reactor Russia has to offer. The reactor itself is not being installed in Russia, yet.
But the Russian government has authorized to build 6 nuclear reactors on VVER-1200 technology in Russia between 2011-2015:
Russian government approved a General plan of power industry objects placement till 2020

The Nuclear power plant in Akkuyu has a design of 4 * 1.200 MW reactors and has a project value of 18 to 20 Billion $.
RT: News : $US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow

The next tender will be for the nuclear power plant on the north coast in Turkey in Sinop.
Where the 3rd nuclear power plant will be built is not decided, yet, but press reports indicate, that in Sinop will be built also the 3rd nuclear power plant.

All these nuclear power plants will be built and operated by the private sector, no state involvement. The state itself currently develops an indigenious reactor technology. The aim is to produce a 100 MW reactor by 2015. The project is financed with 3 billion TL (current exchange rate = 1,8 billion $) and finace was approved by government in 2007:
Nükleer için TAEK’e 3 milyar YTL kaynak

The first round of nuclear power plants is private company related. In the first round there will be built 3 nuclear power plants with foreign technology. The 3 nuclear power plants will produce about 14.000 to 15.000 MW. So each plant is designed containing several reactors.

Mark my words, it will end in disaster.

 

[Munin]

Turkish president is currently for a 4-day visit in Russia.
There was important developments.
Russia and Turkey agreed to switch their trade transactions to local currencies, Rubel and Turkish Lira.
Turkey, Russia agree on TL-ruble area in bilateral trade
World Bulletin [ Turkey, Russia agree on TL-ruble area in bilateral trade ]


Some deals were made worth 60 to 80 billion $:
$US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow
Russia and Turkey have signed a 15-year energy contract worth $US 60 billion. The agreements were reached while Turkish President Abdullah Gul is in Moscow for a four day official visit.
Russian Energy Minister Sergey Shmatko says the two countries have also almost agreed to build four reactors for a potential nuclear plant in Turkey, which could cost $US 18-20 billion. Each reactor would have 1200 MW of power. The project is planned to be finished within six years.
RT: News : $US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow


Then there was signed an strategic cooperation agreement:

Putin says Turkey 'priority' for Russian foreign policy
RIA Novosti - World - Putin says Turkey 'priority' for Russian foreign policy

Presidents of Russia, Turkey adopt strategic declaration
RIA Novosti - Russia - Presidents of Russia, Turkey adopt strategic declaration

Russia, Turkey hail flourishing neighbourhood ties
AFP: Russia, Turkey hail flourishing neighbourhood ties

Turkey will build a total of 3 nuclear power plants. The nuclear power plants will be built and operated by private sector. The first tender to build the first nuclear power plant on the south coast of Turkey in Akkuyu was won by a Russian-Turkish consortium. The consortium consists of a Russian energy distributor, a Turkish energy distributor and the Russian state company for nuclear technology.

The consortium offered to build the VVER-1200 type reactor. That reactor is the newest developed reactor Russia has to offer. The reactor itself is not being installed in Russia, yet.
But the Russian government has authorized to build 6 nuclear reactors on VVER-1200 technology in Russia between 2011-2015:
Russian government approved a General plan of power industry objects placement till 2020

The Nuclear power plant in Akkuyu has a design of 4 * 1.200 MW reactors and has a project value of 18 to 20 Billion $.
RT: News : $US 60 billion energy contract signed in Moscow

The next tender will be for the nuclear power plant on the north coast in Turkey in Sinop.
Where the 3rd nuclear power plant will be built is not decided, yet, but press reports indicate, that in Sinop will be built also the 3rd nuclear power plant.

All these nuclear power plants will be built and operated by the private sector, no state involvement. The state itself currently develops an indigenious reactor technology. The aim is to produce a 100 MW reactor by 2015. The project is financed with 3 billion TL (current exchange rate = 1,8 billion $) and finace was approved by government in 2007:
Nükleer için TAEK’e 3 milyar YTL kaynak

The first round of nuclear power plants is private company related. In the first round there will be built 3 nuclear power plants with foreign technology. The 3 nuclear power plants will produce about 14.000 to 15.000 MW. So each plant is designed containing several reactors.

Mark my words, it will end in disaster.

Russia and Nuclear. I always thought that you should keep those 2 words as far away from each other as possible .

 

[Lycurgus]

If Turkey is going to regret anything or change anything this motivation will come from inside Turkey. Off course no nation is really fully independent in this globalized world, but leaving aside globalization with shocks unable to prevent from being felt also in Turkey, Turks do make their own politics in full independence.

There is no one around being able to let Turkey regret anything.

Tell me something, which group do you work for?

And why lobby this site?

Further, if anyone wants some insight into the Turks, they can look at how they treated us when we needed them. And it had nothing to do with them feeling that going into Iraq was wrong. It was because we would not be letting them slaughter the Kurds as they have in the past.

Gosh, i don't recall you asking toomuchtime_ that same question.. geee, the double standard is amazing. A turk posting about his muslim nation gets flak while the standard issue retinue of zionist jews get nothing less than a sloppy blowjob. SAY IT AINT SO!

My complaints with Turkey are more than fair. Further wanting to know which propaganda group a person represents is a fair question. since I am not a Zionist, I don't understand your last comments. I stated fact and asked fair question, that is not flack! Grow up!

 

[Lycurgus]

I am working for no "group", you?
You live in a small world if you think Turkey is defined by its decision not to allow US soldiers on its territory. Maybe you are confuseing the issue, Turkey is no US dog relying on US security guarantees or being dictated policies to follow. We brew our own beer and as Turkey gets more involved in regional politics, everyone (includeing the US) has to be cautious and must sleep over the issue of follow-up damage by provoking Turkish reaction. We have witnessed this between US and Turkey the last years and the outcome of this is that US decided not to push too much against Turkey. Despite Iraq war has been catastrophic for region and Iraq issue will be a conflict zone between regional powers even when US redeployed to a non-relevant presence in this region, Iraq issue is now being shaped by US in compliance to Turkish interests, and US gets word Turkey will not occupy North-Iraq in a large-scale. In practical this means US giving up policy of Turkish blockade into Iraqi realpolitics. US for itself does not need to follow policy of strengthening centralist Iraq, geo-political reality of Turkey ensures other regional powers of not following policy to divide Iraq up. Namely Iran.

I only speak for myself. Thank you for your response, it is very hum, Turkish and expected. Further it supports my worries about the US giving too much in that direction, it will come back to bite us. No one asked you to be their dogs, but, they did expect a fair agreement considering what has been done for Turkey. Seems you forgot who aided in all of that industry building. Washington needs to learn from this.