Repealed In The Senate -

[JakeStarkey]

They can repeal it. And create an unholy mess.

But they can't pass a new plan without the Democrats.

How do you figure? It was passed by simple majority in a reconciliation vote without any Republicans in the first place. What would prevent that from being done again?

Five to Seven GOP senators and about forty members of the House's freedom caucus that are not happy with their party's leaders.

 

[Conservative65]

I know what I say is true. Continuing only proves that we have freeloaders not willing to do for themselves. Pieces of shit.

You believe what you say is true. But the program will continue, lucky you, in some form and fashion. Maybe it will give better care for less money. That would be very good.

I know what I say is true. I believe it is because it is. Based on what it's done, it will more like cost more despite the lies of the little black social experiment called Obama.

Believe as you wish. The GOP program may well cost more than Obama's ACA. That is a good point.

Sad how you speculate on something and ignore what has already happened. You morons will never learn that putting someone in office because of a skin color social experiment was a failure. You only have 7 days left to kiss his ass. Get in line. Based on what's on here, the line in long. Pucker up NL.

We are talking about government health programs, not the color of someone's skins: only losers do the latter. That you can't articulate your point of view logically and with evidence merely reveals that you are steaming on emotion and nothing else. Get out of the way. Government sponsored health care insurance is going to continue, and, hopefully, get better.

One put into place by a President where skin color was used as a qualification.

I'll get out of the way when you can move me. We both know that won't happen.

Pucker up NL. It's all you have.

 

[Broncho4]

They can repeal it. And create an unholy mess.

But they can't pass a new plan without the Democrats.

You say that as it's a bad thing. Government screwed it up huge last time, never again

We have the lowest rate of uninsured ever - only 9% - you seem to think that is a bad thing.

That is a ridiculous statistic. It is also an irrelevant statistic. By that "logic" if we had 100% of the population insured it would be a good thing? With $5,000 deductibles and 60/40 co-insurance... Having a piece of paper that says you're insured that is too expensive to ever use is worthless and for that privilege, small businesses have fundamentally changed.

 

[Broncho4]

They can repeal it. And create an unholy mess.

But they can't pass a new plan without the Democrats.

How do you figure? It was passed by simple majority in a reconciliation vote without any Republicans in the first place. What would prevent that from being done again?

Five to Seven GOP senators and about forty members of the House's freedom caucus that are not happy with their party's leaders.

Not happy and not voting for are two very different things. Secondly, they have very specific issues that may very well be addressed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

They can repeal it. And create an unholy mess.

But they can't pass a new plan without the Democrats.

You say that as it's a bad thing. Government screwed it up huge last time, never again

We have the lowest rate of uninsured ever - only 9% - you seem to think that is a bad thing.

That is a ridiculous statistic. It is also an irrelevant statistic. By that "logic" if we had 100% of the population insured it would be a good thing? With $5,000 deductibles and 60/40 co-insurance... Having a piece of paper that says you're insured that is too expensive to ever use is worthless and for that privilege, small businesses have fundamentally changed.

That statistic is relevant and your assessment is ridiculous. Yes, having the entire population covered with quality, accessible, and affordable health care would drive costs downward, and if properly subsidized would help small business tremendously. The only reason that cost problems occur is that the program does not include everyone. No one should be able to privatize their savings at the price of socializing the cost and care.

The senators and congresscritters have specific needs and causes, and thinking they will swing behind their file leaders is very foolish based on the last fifteen years of voting.

 

[Broncho4]

They can repeal it. And create an unholy mess.

But they can't pass a new plan without the Democrats.

You say that as it's a bad thing. Government screwed it up huge last time, never again

We have the lowest rate of uninsured ever - only 9% - you seem to think that is a bad thing.

That is a ridiculous statistic. It is also an irrelevant statistic. By that "logic" if we had 100% of the population insured it would be a good thing? With $5,000 deductibles and 60/40 co-insurance... Having a piece of paper that says you're insured that is too expensive to ever use is worthless and for that privilege, small businesses have fundamentally changed.

That statistic is relevant and your assessment is ridiculous. Yes, having the entire population covered with quality, accessible, and affordable health care would drive costs downward, and if properly subsidized would help small business tremendously. The only reason that cost problems occur is that the program does not include everyone. No one should be able to privatize their savings at the price of socializing the cost and care.

The senators and congresscritters have specific needs and causes, and thinking they will swing behind their file leaders is very foolish based on the last fifteen years of voting.

If my assessment is ridiculous it's because the reality is. Your retort requires "quality, accessible and affordable" insurance. The reality is that all three standards have decreased under the ACA. Loading a program with "need but can't afford" will not reduce cost unless the system is designed to limit payout for that group. The problem you have is that you think that you can insert the reality you desire into the real world. That's not how life works.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

We have the lowest rate of uninsured ever - only 9% - you seem to think that is a bad thing.

Like many, many, many ACA "members"....a "plan" that leaves you with $5000 - $7000 deductible IS NOT INSURANCE.
That is not health insurance. It is catastrophic care only plans at full health insurances rates.

 

[Anathema]

And when they go to the emergency room, who the hell pays? You are one stupid old man.

Nobody. The hospital should be allowed to turn them away if they can't pay.

 

[ClosedCaption]

They can repeal it. And create an unholy mess.

But they can't pass a new plan without the Democrats.

do you really think the repub party the party that refused to consider healthcare forever, will really try to do something all americans will benefit from?

They have replacement plans. Look it up. Rand Pauls is pretty good.

They have a bunch of plans...that none of them can agree on....But if having plans by itself is good then yeah. Awesome

 

[Darkwind]

ACA is done.

what will it be replaced with and how many years will that take ,,lots of folks including trump voters are going to get hurt

Lots of folks, including Trump voters, have been seriously hurt by Obamacare. Did you care about them?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

They have a bunch of plans...that none of them can agree on....But if having plans by itself is good then yeah. Awesome

Same as ACA is it not?
High Deductible plans (catastrophic care) have been around for years...but they were dirt cheap.
MANY Obamacare plans carry VERY high deductibles..but are at full health insurance rates.
So if having a "plan" that puts a plastic card in your pocket that cost you $400 a month that you will never use by itself is good then yeah, Awesome.

 

[ClosedCaption]

ACA is done.

what will it be replaced with and how many years will that take ,,lots of folks including trump voters are going to get hurt

Lots of folks, including Trump voters, have been seriously hurt by Obamacare. Did you care about them?

You always have to laugh at people who say things like "lots of folks" were hurt like that means something.