"Repeal The Second Amendment!"

[martybegan]

A tangible example they won't take things too far.

Repeal NYC's sullivan law and let law abiding citizens get a revolver without going through hoops.

that's another issue that clogs this up - states can and will pass their own laws.

And those laws cannot be against the constitution. NYC's law is obviously infringement, but a case has never reached far enough up the courts to do anything about it.

then that would be up to someone in new york to push if it bugged them that much.

it's been tried over and over and it dies in lower courts.

then that would be up to them to determine their own gun laws. now is that a good or bad thing?

As a US Citizen I have a right to keep and bear arms, and the State cannot infringe on that.

Is a 3-6 month waiting period and $600 in fees infringement or not?

 

[whitehall]

Why not repeal the pesky 1st Amendment too? Arrogant lefties won't have to worry about the religious beliefs of Americans that interfere with the progressive agenda. As a bonus they can shut down the free press and print only propaganda. Sounds like a win-win (-win) for the left. Welcome to Orwell's world.

 

[pismoe]

I know. The world is even MORE dangerous now. Even more reason to be armed and ready to defend yourself and your family from a lunatic. "Gun control" measures have not worked and will not work. Guess why?

Some "Gun control" measures do work. None of the mass shooting have been with the use of a fully-automatic guns. Guess why?

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aw well , its 2018 and the other day 17 people were murdered and thats out of a USA population of 310 million [2010 census] plus many millions of illegal aliens . Plus start arming teachers in gun free zones Alang .

So the answer is always more guns? I can't believe that is the only answer. Can you point to a time/place where that has worked?

 

[martybegan]

Again, the other side can't be trusted to be reasonable, so anything more we give them will be exploited towards their overall goal of an unarmed populace.

again - then where do we go from here? sitting around saying WE DON'T TRUST YOU is only going to go so far.

---------------------------------------------------------------------- can't do much , GunOwners have RIGHTS . Stand on those Legal RIGHTS and don't give an inch , be ready and see what happens .

those rights are there because we agree to them and do in fact, defend them. but *we the people* can and do change our rights all the time. there is no god given right to anything, rights are what man has put up and chosen to defend. you can either work to resolve issues you're perceived to be a part of or you can stand that ground until they take that ground away.

The only way to change them is 2/3 of Congress (or conventions) and 3/4 of the States.

anything else is an end run.

And rights are inherent in man, regardless of the source, the only thing the constitution does is prevent government from interfering in them.

Without that, your other option is to fight.

then again, go to another country and demand your "rights" as we define them here.

we have them because we decide on what they are and we defend them to the death. pretty much all there is to it.

Why go to another country? All I ask is the that the US constitution be followed, and if people don't want to follow it, put in the effort to amend it.

We have them as rights protected from government interference because of the Constitution. We have them as rights because of who we are.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Why not repeal the pesky 1st Amendment too? Arrogant lefties won't have to worry about the pesky religious beliefs of Americans. As a bonus they can shut down the free press and print only propaganda. Sounds like a win-win for the left.

It's another left loon fantasy. These people have far too much time on their hands

 

[alang1216]

---------------i don't care if they work or don't work as i repeat reality that 17 people were murdered a few days ago in America which has a legal population of about 310 million residents Alang .

How many lives would make you care? Would you care if one of those 17 were your child?

If my wife was shot by some piece of shit I would not be crying for gun control.

I would hunt that piece of shit down and shoot him

I'm sure you'd feel better but it wouldn't help your wife any. Do you care more about justice than keeping her safe?

 

[pismoe]

Why not repeal the pesky 1st Amendment too? Arrogant lefties won't have to worry about the pesky religious beliefs of Americans. As a bonus they can shut down the free press and print only propaganda. Sounds like a win-win for the left.

-------------------------------- think they are going after FREE Speech and other RIGHTS , see college campuses , Berzerkly for one .

 

[ChrisL]

Many, many, MANY more kids die from drugs and alcohol related "accidents" every year than from being shot. Many, many more children die in household accidents and drown every single year.

How Many People Die From Drugs, Each Year? | Promises

 

[Thinker101]

again - then where do we go from here? sitting around saying WE DON'T TRUST YOU is only going to go so far.

---------------------------------------------------------------------- can't do much , GunOwners have RIGHTS . Stand on those Legal RIGHTS and don't give an inch , be ready and see what happens .

those rights are there because we agree to them and do in fact, defend them. but *we the people* can and do change our rights all the time. there is no god given right to anything, rights are what man has put up and chosen to defend. you can either work to resolve issues you're perceived to be a part of or you can stand that ground until they take that ground away.

The only way to change them is 2/3 of Congress (or conventions) and 3/4 of the States.

anything else is an end run.

And rights are inherent in man, regardless of the source, the only thing the constitution does is prevent government from interfering in them.

Without that, your other option is to fight.

then again, go to another country and demand your "rights" as we define them here.

we have them because we decide on what they are and we defend them to the death. pretty much all there is to it.

Why go to another country? All I ask is the that the US constitution be followed, and if people don't want to follow it, put in the effort to amend it.

We have them as rights protected from government interference because of the Constitution. We have them as rights because of who we are.

How about those that don't want to follow the constitution move.

 

[hazlnut]

Nobody gives out natural rights. We are BORN with them. They are an inherent part of being a human being.

Not really

Billions of people are born without those rights

Because of their governments oppressing them.

Did these governments ban guns? Winger won't grasp it

Yes.

But so did Australia, Japan

Plenty of Governments have strict gun laws and thriving economies with abundant freedoms.


Banning of guns to suppress and control a population doesn't result in a thriving and growing mega-economy. That's why it would never happen here. There's no upside. And it wouldn't be just a "gun grab" they'd have to rip up the 1st, the 4th, and a few others... to what end?

But the gun lobby needs you to think it might happen so you will buy more guns.... buy, buy, buy....

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Nobody gives out natural rights. We are BORN with them. They are an inherent part of being a human being.

Not really

Billions of people are born without those rights

Because of their governments oppressing them.

Did these governments ban guns? Winger won't grasp it

Yes.

But so did Australia, Japan

Plenty of Governments have strict gun laws and thriving economies with abundant freedoms.


Banning of guns to suppress and control a population doesn't result in a thriving and growing mega-economy. That's why it would never happen here. There's no upside. And it wouldn't be just a "gun grab" they'd have to rip up the 1st, the 4th, and a few others... to what end?

But the gun lobby needs you to think it might happen so you will buy more guns.... buy, buy, buy....

You're never going to get it done....you'll just get tired, nut

 

[ChrisL]

In 2015, 27.1 million people aged 12 or older were current illicit drug users and 138.3 million currently drank alcohol.

• Of those, an estimated 20.8 million people aged 12 or older had a substance use disorder in the past year, including 7.7 million people with an illicit drug use disorder and 15.7 million with an alcohol use disorder.1
• That means an estimated 77% of illicit drug users become addicted and about 5.6% of alcohol drinkers develop dependence.
• Drugs and alcohol affect individuals, families, the workplace and society. The toll on America’s economy is staggering, with a yearly annual economic impact of $442 billion from the misuse of prescription drugs, illicit drugs or alcohol.2

How Many People Die From Drug Abuse and Overdoses?
In 2015, drug overdoses accounted for 52,404 U.S. deaths (19,447 females and 32,957 males). Overdose figures include:

• Unintentional drug poisoning
• Suicide drug poisoning
• Homicide drug poisoning
• Drug poisoning of undetermined intent

When considering mortalities associated with drug abuse, one needs to look at the big picture. In the strictest sense, drug-abuse-related deaths are overdoses or poisonings, although drug- or alcohol-induced accidents also account for thousands of deaths every year. Moreover, drug trafficking is directly connected to violent fatal crimes, deadly spousal and child abuse, and infant mortality.

 

[Skull Pilot]

---------------i don't care if they work or don't work as i repeat reality that 17 people were murdered a few days ago in America which has a legal population of about 310 million residents Alang .

How many lives would make you care? Would you care if one of those 17 were your child?

If my wife was shot by some piece of shit I would not be crying for gun control.

I would hunt that piece of shit down and shoot him

I'm sure you'd feel better but it wouldn't help your wife any. Do you care more about justice than keeping her safe?

You asked the question what if one of my loved ones was shot. I answered.

All my firearms are as far as I'm concerned for the sole purpose of self defense, defense of my wife, my dogs and my property. But if my wife is ever murdered you better ******* believe I will kill the ************

 

[hazlnut]

Many, many, MANY more kids die from drugs and alcohol related "accidents" every year than from being shot. Many, many more children die in household accidents and drown every single year.

How Many People Die From Drugs, Each Year? | Promises

Yes. and how to we address those problems. Working together. or mouth foaming about God-given rights?


Could you imagine if drunk drivers started holding up the 21st Amendment of the United States as their god-given natural right... "You libs want to take away my booze!!"

 

[JoeMoma]

Here's another one blabbering.

Michael Moore Calls for Repeal of 'Ancient & Outdated' 2nd Amendment

The 2nd Amendment isn't going anywhere. Quit fearmongering. You sound ridiculous.

It's going to stay in the constitution. However, it may become eroded by case law made by the courts. In other words, "banana" can mean "pineapple" if the supreme court decides to call it that way.

Only if the people permit it.

People have been allowing the principles of the constitution to erode since it was established. If it's done slowly enough, people will allow it.

 

[rightwinger]

Nobody gives out natural rights. We are BORN with them. They are an inherent part of being a human being.

Not really

Billions of people are born without those rights

Because of their governments oppressing them.

So you are not born with them

Billions of people are born without the right to own a firearm....their rights come from the government

No, your rights come from the governed....

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are (1) endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That (2) to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, (3) deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

Very true

And the governed is getting tired over endless massacres and a government that does nothing

 

[ChrisL]

I propose that the next time a Muslim terror attack happens, that we BAN the Muslim religion. We aren't going to ban ALL religions, just the Muslim religion. They use various tools at their disposal to accomplish their terrorist goals, bombs, knives, vehicles, guns, so it isn't so much the tool I am concerned about but rather the dangerous ideology which has seduced some into joining the cause of murdering innocent American citizens here and abroad. So, since I don't want to ban ALL religions and even though the vast majority of Muslims have never harmed anyone, I feel justified in banning their right to practice that particular religion due to the violence. How many children around the world have been killed in Muslim terror attacks?

 

[hazlnut]

How about those that don't want to follow the constitution move.

So, Ted Cruz and the GOP in the U.S. Senate...? 2016 Scalia died and they'd be goddamned if they were going let the black man replace him... so they pulled "precedent" from their ass, called it the Biden rule and put the constitution on pause until after the election...

and the Dems did very little to stop them because they know in the next election cycle, they might want to pause the constitution....

Welcome to the age of American Nihilism where the champions of the constitution (Ted Cruz) only really follow it when it's convenient...

 

[rightwinger]

I propose that the next time a Muslim terror attack happens, that we BAN the Muslim religion. We aren't going to ban ALL religions, just the Muslim religion. They use various tools at their disposal to accomplish their terrorist goals, bombs, knives, vehicles, guns, so it isn't so much the tool I am concerned about but rather the dangerous ideology which has seduced some into joining the cause of murdering innocent American citizens here and abroad. So, since I don't want to ban ALL religions and even though the vast majority of Muslims have never harmed anyone, I feel justified in banning their right to practice that particular religion due to the violence. How many children around the world have been killed in Muslim terror attacks?

Nobody is proposing a BAN on guns

Merely enhanced background checks on all purchases

Why do conservatives oppose it?

 

[hazlnut]

I propose that the next time a Muslim terror attack happens, that we BAN the Muslim religion. We aren't going to ban ALL religions, just the Muslim religion. They use various tools at their disposal to accomplish their terrorist goals, bombs, knives, vehicles, guns, so it isn't so much the tool I am concerned about but rather the dangerous ideology which has seduced some into joining the cause of murdering innocent American citizens here and abroad. So, since I don't want to ban ALL religions and even though the vast majority of Muslims have never harmed anyone, I feel justified in banning their right to practice that particular religion due to the violence. How many children around the world have been killed in Muslim terror attacks?

The reason President Obama didn't call them Muslim/Islamic extremists, he knew we can't allow a mentally deranged murder cult to hide behind a religion. He took away their religion.

You want to take your own ignorance of islam, your own hatred and xenophobia and vent it on an entire religion.

Ignorance, Fear, and prejudice go hand in hand.