Repeal it already!

Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal

This is a MAJOR fail for the Repubs. Skinny is NOWHERE NEAR repeal. It's an attempt to save it.

And they had SEVEN F'ing YEARS to formulate a plan. TOLD US -- they had one. And they did Jack Crap..

They are toast. Both Brand Name parties are taking us down the crapper. There's gonna be NEW Leadership and it ain't gonna come from EITHER party. Because EVERYONE in Congress is useless -- except for the 4 party bosses. 500 of them ---- might as well NOT be there. Can't speak out or they pummeled. Especially in the Dem camp.

Need Indies and 3rd Parties.. And stop voting "winners".. America needs to vote for competence and leadership to survive right now --- not more "winning".. The WINNING is killing my country....

Right now we need a 3rd political party in Congress with enough seats to force the major parties to deal with them. Never mind the WH, that's for much later down the road, IMHO the major obstacle these days is the Legislative Branch of gov't. Only way I see to fix that is enough people in enough places voting in some Independent people so that the other 2 parties do not have a majority. Will that happen? Probably not, but I'm not seeing any other solution on the horizon.

Absolutely.. Nothing in Congress gets done unless the 4 party say it gets done. A lot of the "rules" that are not Constitutional Mandates -- need to change. So members can't be blackmailed or primaried out of their next election for disobedience.

These fully partisan votes are just the MAFIA DISCIPLINE of the tribal confrontation. SHOULD be Dems that actually want to separate MediCaid from O-Care so it can be done right. But leadership won't ALLOW "original thought".. You'd be working your Congress seat out of broom closet -- if you made suggestions to "help" the Repubs..

All you "winners" better be expecting more of this winning. Because 2 parties are having a death match and taking you down with them.

Well, I would have stuck to voting for Gary, but he totally screwed up by not doing his homework, being unprepared for the tougher questions. You would have thought he would have his shit together but he didn't, and that blew his chances at competing with The Hillbag or the Trumpster. The libertarians NEED to do a better job.
 
YES. We need to repeal this harmful law. It's done nothing good. It's only risen costs, limited availability, and limited competition. It's led us further towards socialist state much like Europe or Canada.

Going to have to educate you on something good:

Twenty million more people have health insurance.

uabo9dtqxuaxnjodz1cvmw.png


It has made many Americans more financially secure.

It made health insurance more comprehensive.

It has reduced inequality.

Grading Obamacare: Successes, Failures and ā€˜Incompletesā€™

The NY Times? Spare us the BS. The only thing the ACA did was subsidize most of those people on the taxpayer's dime. Most of those who did get insured are not getting better health care outcomes. And it sure as hell isn't doing anything for income inequality.

Facts are not dependant on the messenger.

What I said was factual and you are welcome to try to dispute it.

Subsidies make sure PEOPLE CAN AFFORD INSURANCE, that means more people CAN afford insurance, that means less people bankrupt due to medical bills and less people skipping on medical help they need.

To say that the law has no upside while not being ignorant of these facts is straight insane.

Here is another one - ACA accelerated technological progress in the healthcare sector with strong incentives to providers to switch to electronic records.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal

This is a MAJOR fail for the Repubs. Skinny is NOWHERE NEAR repeal. It's an attempt to save it.

And they had SEVEN F'ing YEARS to formulate a plan. TOLD US -- they had one. And they did Jack Crap..

They are toast. Both Brand Name parties are taking us down the crapper. There's gonna be NEW Leadership and it ain't gonna come from EITHER party. Because EVERYONE in Congress is useless -- except for the 4 party bosses. 500 of them ---- might as well NOT be there. Can't speak out or they pummeled. Especially in the Dem camp.

Need Indies and 3rd Parties.. And stop voting "winners".. America needs to vote for competence and leadership to survive right now --- not more "winning".. The WINNING is killing my country....

Right now we need a 3rd political party in Congress with enough seats to force the major parties to deal with them. Never mind the WH, that's for much later down the road, IMHO the major obstacle these days is the Legislative Branch of gov't. Only way I see to fix that is enough people in enough places voting in some Independent people so that the other 2 parties do not have a majority. Will that happen? Probably not, but I'm not seeing any other solution on the horizon.

Absolutely.. Nothing in Congress gets done unless the 4 party say it gets done. A lot of the "rules" that are not Constitutional Mandates -- need to change. So members can't be blackmailed or primaried out of their next election for disobedience.

These fully partisan votes are just the MAFIA DISCIPLINE of the tribal confrontation. SHOULD be Dems that actually want to separate MediCaid from O-Care so it can be done right. But leadership won't ALLOW "original thought".. You'd be working your Congress seat out of broom closet -- if you made suggestions to "help" the Repubs..

All you "winners" better be expecting more of this winning. Because 2 parties are having a death match and taking you down with them.

Well, I would have stuck to voting for Gary, but he totally screwed up by not doing his homework, being unprepared for the tougher questions. You would have thought he would have his shit together but he didn't, and that blew his chances at competing with The Hillbag or the Trumpster. The libertarians NEED to do a better job.

That's what happens to people who smoke weed.....duh
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal

This is a MAJOR fail for the Repubs. Skinny is NOWHERE NEAR repeal. It's an attempt to save it.

And they had SEVEN F'ing YEARS to formulate a plan. TOLD US -- they had one. And they did Jack Crap..

They are toast. Both Brand Name parties are taking us down the crapper. There's gonna be NEW Leadership and it ain't gonna come from EITHER party. Because EVERYONE in Congress is useless -- except for the 4 party bosses. 500 of them ---- might as well NOT be there. Can't speak out or they pummeled. Especially in the Dem camp.

Need Indies and 3rd Parties.. And stop voting "winners".. America needs to vote for competence and leadership to survive right now --- not more "winning".. The WINNING is killing my country....

Right now we need a 3rd political party in Congress with enough seats to force the major parties to deal with them. Never mind the WH, that's for much later down the road, IMHO the major obstacle these days is the Legislative Branch of gov't. Only way I see to fix that is enough people in enough places voting in some Independent people so that the other 2 parties do not have a majority. Will that happen? Probably not, but I'm not seeing any other solution on the horizon.

Absolutely.. Nothing in Congress gets done unless the 4 party say it gets done. A lot of the "rules" that are not Constitutional Mandates -- need to change. So members can't be blackmailed or primaried out of their next election for disobedience.

These fully partisan votes are just the MAFIA DISCIPLINE of the tribal confrontation. SHOULD be Dems that actually want to separate MediCaid from O-Care so it can be done right. But leadership won't ALLOW "original thought".. You'd be working your Congress seat out of broom closet -- if you made suggestions to "help" the Repubs..

All you "winners" better be expecting more of this winning. Because 2 parties are having a death match and taking you down with them.

Well, I would have stuck to voting for Gary, but he totally screwed up by not doing his homework, being unprepared for the tougher questions. You would have thought he would have his shit together but he didn't, and that blew his chances at competing with The Hillbag or the Trumpster. The libertarians NEED to do a better job.

That's what happens to people who smoke weed.....duh

You'd be surprised at the people who smoke weed that you never had an inkling about, I'm sure. Anyways, it's not just that. There is a lot more to it.
 
YES. We need to repeal this harmful law. It's done nothing good. It's only risen costs, limited availability, and limited competition. It's led us further towards socialist state much like Europe or Canada.

Going to have to educate you on something good:

Twenty million more people have health insurance.

uabo9dtqxuaxnjodz1cvmw.png


It has made many Americans more financially secure.

It made health insurance more comprehensive.

It has reduced inequality.

Grading Obamacare: Successes, Failures and ā€˜Incompletesā€™

The NY Times? Spare us the BS. The only thing the ACA did was subsidize most of those people on the taxpayer's dime. Most of those who did get insured are not getting better health care outcomes. And it sure as hell isn't doing anything for income inequality.

Facts are not dependant on the messenger.

What I said was factual and you are welcome to try to dispute it.

Subsidies make sure PEOPLE CAN AFFORD INSURANCE, that means more people CAN afford insurance, that means less people bankrupt due to medical bills and less people skipping on medical help they need.

An estimate of 20 million more insured people by the effing Obama Administration is NOT FACT. It's political BULLSHIT. Just like the rest of that tripe.

You don't seem to understand that as a country we don't have enough fucking money to subsidize health care for everybody. We cannot fucking afford it.
 
YES. We need to repeal this harmful law. It's done nothing good. It's only risen costs, limited availability, and limited competition. It's led us further towards socialist state much like Europe or Canada.

Going to have to educate you on something good:

Twenty million more people have health insurance.

uabo9dtqxuaxnjodz1cvmw.png


It has made many Americans more financially secure.

It made health insurance more comprehensive.

It has reduced inequality.

Grading Obamacare: Successes, Failures and ā€˜Incompletesā€™

The NY Times? Spare us the BS. The only thing the ACA did was subsidize most of those people on the taxpayer's dime. Most of those who did get insured are not getting better health care outcomes. And it sure as hell isn't doing anything for income inequality.

Facts are not dependant on the messenger.

What I said was factual and you are welcome to try to dispute it.

Subsidies make sure PEOPLE CAN AFFORD INSURANCE, that means more people CAN afford insurance, that means less people bankrupt due to medical bills and less people skipping on medical help they need.

To say that the law has no upside while not being ignorant of these facts is straight insane.

Here is another one - ACA accelerated technological progress in the healthcare sector with strong incentives to providers to switch to electronic records.
one thing you lefties don't seem to understand......health insurance does not equate to actual health care.....
 
YES. We need to repeal this harmful law. It's done nothing good. It's only risen costs, limited availability, and limited competition. It's led us further towards socialist state much like Europe or Canada.

Going to have to educate you on something good:

Twenty million more people have health insurance.

It has made many Americans more financially secure.

It made health insurance more comprehensive.

It has reduced inequality.

Grading Obamacare: Successes, Failures and ā€˜Incompletesā€™

Let me re-educate you from your liberal brainwashing:

Twenty million more people have health insurance:

In fact, those people who have health insurance now didn't have it then because they didn't want it or they couldn't afford it. Obamacare didn't help anyone, it just forced them to get it or pay a tax not to have it. Additionally, for the poor, it didn't make it any more affordable. It made it more expensive.

It has made many Americans more financially secure:

How? By taking away their money so they have less to spend on stupid stuff or luxuries? If you call that secure, then yes, it's very secure. In reality, it's only made Americans pay more for stuff they couldn't (and still can't) afford or didn't want.

It made health insurance more comprehensive:

How? It only stopped competition, basically stopping all small health insurance businesses from being able to grow, and only allowing big biz to run the market, along with the government. You liberals rant all the time against corporations, well Obamacare gave corporations mountains of money instead of allowing the market to compete and prices to fall.

It has reduced inequality:

This is America. We are all created equal. No man or woman is less equal than the other. But to say that someone with health insurance is more equal than someone without health insurance is disrespectful. Equality, in the market of health insurance, sucks. We need equity, not equality. Equity is where everyone is equal, but people can earn as much as they want, get as much as they want, and give as much as they want without interference. Equality is where everyone has to earn, get, and give equally. Usually that earn bit is very low, the get bit is very low, and give bit is very high.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal

This is a MAJOR fail for the Repubs. Skinny is NOWHERE NEAR repeal. It's an attempt to save it.

And they had SEVEN F'ing YEARS to formulate a plan. TOLD US -- they had one. And they did Jack Crap..

They are toast. Both Brand Name parties are taking us down the crapper. There's gonna be NEW Leadership and it ain't gonna come from EITHER party. Because EVERYONE in Congress is useless -- except for the 4 party bosses. 500 of them ---- might as well NOT be there. Can't speak out or they pummeled. Especially in the Dem camp.

Need Indies and 3rd Parties.. And stop voting "winners".. America needs to vote for competence and leadership to survive right now --- not more "winning".. The WINNING is killing my country....

Right now we need a 3rd political party in Congress with enough seats to force the major parties to deal with them. Never mind the WH, that's for much later down the road, IMHO the major obstacle these days is the Legislative Branch of gov't. Only way I see to fix that is enough people in enough places voting in some Independent people so that the other 2 parties do not have a majority. Will that happen? Probably not, but I'm not seeing any other solution on the horizon.

A third party would only serve to further dilute the vote. Everything would have to be a compromise. I don't see how that helps anything.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal


Nope. Republicans are cowards. Replace them.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?
 
YES. We need to repeal this harmful law. It's done nothing good. It's only risen costs, limited availability, and limited competition. It's led us further towards socialist state much like Europe or Canada.

Going to have to educate you on something good:

Twenty million more people have health insurance.

uabo9dtqxuaxnjodz1cvmw.png


It has made many Americans more financially secure.

It made health insurance more comprehensive.

It has reduced inequality.

Grading Obamacare: Successes, Failures and ā€˜Incompletesā€™

It's a MIRACLE !!! Fine people enough and they'll buy insurance. That and hide the costs of a Medicaid "expansion" in the pool. Cancel my GROUP Plan, toss ME in the pool and use ME as a blood donor to pay for their so honorable "expansion"..

Health INSURANCE subsidies is not what Medicaid patients need. They need welfare and DEDUCTIBLE subsidies...
 
YES. We need to repeal this harmful law. It's done nothing good. It's only risen costs, limited availability, and limited competition. It's led us further towards socialist state much like Europe or Canada.

Going to have to educate you on something good:

Twenty million more people have health insurance.

uabo9dtqxuaxnjodz1cvmw.png


It has made many Americans more financially secure.

It made health insurance more comprehensive.

It has reduced inequality.

Grading Obamacare: Successes, Failures and ā€˜Incompletesā€™

The NY Times? Spare us the BS. The only thing the ACA did was subsidize most of those people on the taxpayer's dime. Most of those who did get insured are not getting better health care outcomes. And it sure as hell isn't doing anything for income inequality.

Actually the whole broke because not ALL TAXPAYERS were paying for MediCaid expansion. Only those who were FORCED into the "pool"... They tried to hide the costs...
 
What obviously needs to happen is to surgically SEPARATE Medicaid from Insurance legislation. Put it back to the welfare that it was. and NOT hide it's costs in the "pool" like Jonathan Gruber TRICKED You into doing.


You can spot bullshit conspiracy theories a mile away in the way they concentrate around personas rather than policy.

Can you clarify exactly how ACA changed Medicaid to "hide it's costs in the pool"??? All it did was expand qualification to 125% poverty level and change program re-imbursement to pay for OUTCOMES rather then procedures (great idea btw!).

If you are talking about providers making up low re-imbersement from Medicare with higher bills to other patients then you are not talking about ACA chang, it was happening for a while now.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal

This is a MAJOR fail for the Repubs. Skinny is NOWHERE NEAR repeal. It's an attempt to save it.

And they had SEVEN F'ing YEARS to formulate a plan. TOLD US -- they had one. And they did Jack Crap..

They are toast. Both Brand Name parties are taking us down the crapper. There's gonna be NEW Leadership and it ain't gonna come from EITHER party. Because EVERYONE in Congress is useless -- except for the 4 party bosses. 500 of them ---- might as well NOT be there. Can't speak out or they pummeled. Especially in the Dem camp.

Need Indies and 3rd Parties.. And stop voting "winners".. America needs to vote for competence and leadership to survive right now --- not more "winning".. The WINNING is killing my country....

Right now we need a 3rd political party in Congress with enough seats to force the major parties to deal with them. Never mind the WH, that's for much later down the road, IMHO the major obstacle these days is the Legislative Branch of gov't. Only way I see to fix that is enough people in enough places voting in some Independent people so that the other 2 parties do not have a majority. Will that happen? Probably not, but I'm not seeing any other solution on the horizon.

Absolutely.. Nothing in Congress gets done unless the 4 party say it gets done. A lot of the "rules" that are not Constitutional Mandates -- need to change. So members can't be blackmailed or primaried out of their next election for disobedience.

These fully partisan votes are just the MAFIA DISCIPLINE of the tribal confrontation. SHOULD be Dems that actually want to separate MediCaid from O-Care so it can be done right. But leadership won't ALLOW "original thought".. You'd be working your Congress seat out of broom closet -- if you made suggestions to "help" the Repubs..

All you "winners" better be expecting more of this winning. Because 2 parties are having a death match and taking you down with them.

Well, I would have stuck to voting for Gary, but he totally screwed up by not doing his homework, being unprepared for the tougher questions. You would have thought he would have his shit together but he didn't, and that blew his chances at competing with The Hillbag or the Trumpster. The libertarians NEED to do a better job.

So you like demagogues and narcissistic power whores? Good ---- keep winning. Gary had a few embarrassments. NOTHING to compare to the other choices. And unlike EITHER of them, Gary and Bill had actually successfully run STATES for 8 years. Against hostile legislators. And made a difference in the outcome for NMex and Mass. .
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

The cost as it stands is going up anyway....even with a skinny repeal it's a start in the right direction...
 
Well, a plan like single payer or something on that idea would require a VERY robust economy with MOST people working. I don't think that would work in the US at this time. Our economy is still kind of shaky and there aren't a WHOLE lot of jobs out there and I've read that close to 30% of the population is currently collecting some kind of social services. You need to have a healthy balance of people working and people collecting for it to be feasible at all.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

ā€œReplaceā€ has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But thatā€™s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because itā€™s rotten to the core.

If Republicans canā€™t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be ā€œprimariedā€ with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.

You couldn't be more wrong. Removing the mandate and subsidies would decrease competition. How do you not see that?
 
Well, a plan like single payer or something on that idea would require a VERY robust economy with MOST people working. I don't think that would work in the US at this time. Our economy is still kind of shaky and there aren't a WHOLE lot of jobs out there and I've read that close to 30% of the population is currently collecting some kind of social services. You need to have a healthy balance of people working and people collecting for it to be feasible at all.
in other words you need to pick the pockets of the working people to pay for those who don't....single payer does not work unless you really like looooong lines at the doctor.....
 

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