Remember When You Used To Whine About Cancel Culture?

[martybegan]

Indeed... in the past that has only applied to over-the-airwaves broadcast networks... but that need-not restrict us here.

The implication here is that it would ALSO apply to the present-day glut of Cable and Internet outlets as well, yes?

Once we have a viable definition of what constitutes a News Outlet, the rest follows relatively easily, methinks.

Actually by the letter of the law it would only apply to the broadcast networks.

 

[Kondor3]

One method to help with this is for Congress to change the law on the FCC, removing their powers in this area.

I think I disagree.

If there IS to be a reformed and resurrected Equal Time or Fairness doctrine, wouldn't the FCC be the appropriate Enforcer?

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Welcome back to the McCarthy era, folks.

The Vice President of these Divided States of America has blasted out to every god-fearing American weasel to report their friends and neighbors who exercise any independent free speech. Henceforth, only politically correct MAGA Speech™ will be allowed. Not just allowed. If you don't exercise MAGA Speech™ at least once a day, you will be cast under suspicion. If on camera, you must praise Dear Leader with all the fervor of a North Korean subject.

Every member of the cult has been drafted as an informant. Wrongthink is punishable by being blacklisted and thrown onto the welfare rolls.

Vladimir Putin must be grinning from ear to ear at these old-school KGB tactics. He must be so proud of his protégé Donald Trump.

So let's add up how far down the totalitarian road we have come so far.

First Amendment? Gone.

Fourth Amendment? Gone.

Fourteenth Amendment? Gone.

Posse Comitatus? Gone.

Separation of powers? Gone.

Emoluments clause? Gone.

Bash a cop's head in on the Capitol steps on live TV? You're a patriot! Doubleplusgood!

Hurt MAGA's feelings? You're an enemy of the people. Have you now, or have you ever been, a subscriber to The Washington Post?

Come on, kids! Don't be shy. Don those jackboots and armbands. We have plenty of brown shirts in your size to wear during your brave patrols through the rough streets of social media.

It's safe now. You have become everything, and more, that you used to whine about.

What was it that had altered in the faces of the pigs? Clover's old dim eyes
flitted from one face to another. Some of them had five chins, some had four,
some had three. But what was it that seemed to be melting and changing?
Then, the applause having come to an end, the company took up their cards
and continued the game that had been interrupted, and the animals crept silently
away.

But they had not gone twenty yards when they stopped short. An uproar of
voices was coming from the farmhouse. They rushed back and looked through
the window again. Yes, a violent quarrel was in progress. There were shoutings,
bangings on the table, sharp suspicious glances, furious denials. The source of
the trouble appeared to be that Napoleon and Mr. Pilkington had each played
an ace of spades simultaneously.

Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question,
now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked
from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already
it was impossible to say which was which.

Animal Farm

JD Vance backs mass ‘doxing’ campaign to find and harass Charlie Kirk critics​

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When libs demand cancelations it's cool. When libs are axed because they're vile it's welcome Mccarthy era. You libs r plainly dishonest and cowards

 

[Zincwarrior]

I think I disagree.

If there IS to be a reformed and resurrected Equal Time or Fairness doctrine, wouldn't the FCC be the appropriate Enforcer?

I am not referring to the Fairness Doctrine, but removing a tool for the Executive to impair speech.

 

[Kondor3]

I am not referring to the Fairness Doctrine, but removing a tool for the Executive to impair speech.

Ahhhhh... OK... but... at first glance... that may be like throwing the baby out with the bathwater...

Would it not be better to craft a new type of Fairness Doctrine and set up the enforcement ( and administration of the oversight agency ) to make it as free of political manipulation ( including Executive interference ) as practicable?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Ahhhhh... OK... but... at first glance... that may be like throwing the baby out with the bathwater...

Would it not be better to craft a new type of Fairness Doctrine and set up the enforcement ( and administration of the oversight agency ) to make it as free of political manipulation ( including Executive interference ) as practicable?

Potentially so. Its a little before my time so I am a little ignorant on what it did and why it was removed.

 

[AntonToo]

It was Facebook, actually, and you cheered for it, you fascist piece of shit.

Bullshit, Facebook was never threatened with retaliation and at issue was very specifically Covid-19 misinformation posts, not political opponents.

 

[AntonToo]

Weaponization Committee Exposes the Biden White House Censorship Regime in New Report

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House Judiciary Committee and its Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government released an interim staff report titled, "The Censorship-Industrial Complex: How Top Biden White House Officials Coerced Big Tech to Censor Americans, True...

judiciary.house.gov

• Big Tech changed their content moderation policies because of the Biden White House
• The Biden White House's censorship targeted true information, satire, and other content that did not violate the platforms' policies
• The Biden White House's censorship campaign had a chilling effect on other speech
• The White House had leverage because the companies had other policy concerns involving the Biden Administration
• The Biden White House pushed censorship of books, not just social media

While the Biden White House's pressure campaign largely succeeded, its effects were devastating. By suppressing free speech and intentionally distorting public debate in the modern town square, ideas and policies were no longer fairly tested and debated on their merits.

Thats just partisan repackaging of everything that was already said.

Biden admin never threatened retaliation the way Trump and his FCC did and none of it was about political opposition, it was about Covid-19 misinformation during the pandemic. The administration was trying to save lives, not go after people that didn't say nice things about them.

The difference is very stark.

 

[AntonToo]

Jealous?

They (Conservatives) learned all about guerilla politicking from watching YOU guys during the early days of the Internet era.

And now your own outlets aren't faring so well as they once did ( examples: CNN, MSNBC ) due to audience shrinkage.

Ditch the Illegals and Trannies and start lowering taxes and admit your past mistakes and you might regain audience share.

But you won't.

Your decades of Culture Wars and Public Shaming of those who disagree with you have (finally) brought you to this state.

And, humorously, your Opposition ended-up beating you at your own game, even if it took a couple of decades to do it.

You have no one to blame but yourselves for your current predicament.

As to Equal Time or Fairness... I'll bet that most of those outlets would participate in a leveling of the playing field.

Unlike your own juvenile always-have-to-have-it-all-MY-way side of the fence.


Who is "you" in this instance?

Not me... I'm truly an Independent or Centrist.. I'm just enjoying seeing the Left squirm and make excuses for their situation.

As to the demise of the old Fairness Doctrine, in today's climate, Conservatives hold the power, and yet THEY are the ones who have been advocating for its return in recent times... even if it works against them from time-to-time...

A revised Fairness Doctrine... one that cannot easily be used as a political weapon... and encased in Federal Statute rather than just as a long-standing FCC Rule published in the Federal Register... would be a good thing for BOTH sides if done properly, yes?

If it WOULD be a good thing for both sides, then... why-in-the-world would you gripe about WHO proposed it or even WHY? Hell.. the Devil himself could have proposed it... but if it's a GOOD thing, then... who-the-hell cares?

G5000 this is why you shouldn't take deflection bait like this.

He will be happily deflecting for pages and pages and pages about his fairness doctrine fantasies to avoid addressing Trump admin's degenerate free speech squashing, which is at the very heart of the issue.

 

[struth]

Thats just partisan repackaging of everything that was already said.

Biden admin never threatened retaliation the way Trump and his FCC did and none of it was about political opposition, it was about Covid-19 misinformation during the pandemic. The administration was trying to save lives, not go after people that didn't say nice things about them.

The difference is very stark.

hahah they weren't trying to save lives....they caused a record amount of lives to die from their misinformation on covid.

They were trying to suppress free speech, and it wasn't just covid, it was also news about the xiden crime family, in particualr Hunter's laptop

To just being critcal of the admin :“[T]he impetus for this request is criticism from the Biden Administration about sensitive books we’re giving prominent placement to.”6https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Censorship-Industrial-Complex-WH-Report_Appendix.pdf

 

[Kondor3]

G5000 this is why you shouldn't take deflection bait like this.

Incorrect... not Deflection Bait... I did not vote for Trump nor do I support his leaning on the FCC to spank Jimmy Kimmel.

What I had posted about resurrecting some kind of Equal Time (Fairness) Doctrine was entirely genuine.

I have no reason to deflect and am sufficiently honest with respect to topical discussion not to engage in that very often.

This was not one of those times.

It's unfortunate that you believe otherwise but I'll get over it.

He will be happily deflecting for pages and pages and pages about his fairness doctrine fantasies

Not at all... I served-up a few lines of text outlining my thoughts on the subject in response to a related post.

Mentioning one's opinion on resurrecting something that existed in the past for decades doesn't amount to 'fantasy'.

Also... given that Conservatives have the upper-hand at present and actually spanked someone using that power recently...

If I was a Trumpster, trying to deflect attention away from his actions, why would I hoping to resurrect the Fairness Doctrine?

Think.

to avoid addressing Trump admin's degenerate free speech squashing, which is at the very heart of the issue.

Again...

I do not support Trump's leaning on the FCC to spank Kimmel for his despicable commentary...

I would have laughed if ABC actually fired him but they did not... they suspended him to assess the situation...

Presidents sometimes step outside their lane and this may very well be one of those times; especially when they get pi$$ed...

It wasn't pretty and I don't like the way it was done so why-in-the-world would I be deflecting attention away from Trump?

Think.

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And, until Trump's FCC pulls a license for simply reporting FACT about Trump, I'm not too worried about Free Speech.

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Edit: I just heard on the cable-TV channel "News Nation" that Kimmel's show will be back on-the-air on Tues Sep 23rd.

At a time when a vast, tremendous percentage of the nation was grieving, Kimmel's comments were entirely out-of-line.

Here's hoping that his viewership tanks... straight into the toilet... but that's something that will remain unknown for a while.

 

[g5000]

 

[g5000]

hahah they weren't trying to save lives....they caused a record amount of lives to die from their misinformation on covid.

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The vast majority of people who died were the misinformed unvaxxed.

 

[struth]

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The vast majority of people who died were the misinformed unvaxxed.

Misinformed by xiden

 

[g5000]

Jealous?

Way to miss the point, genius!

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They (Conservatives) learned all about guerilla politicking from watching YOU guys during the early days of the Internet era.

"YOU guys"? What guys? I'm old school conservative. That's why I hammer the most on YOU guys who have publicly murdered both conservatism and Christianity.

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And now your own outlets aren't faring so well as they once did ( examples: CNN, MSNBC ) due to audience shrinkage.

News flash: I don't have cable. The only time I see any of the 24-hour propaganda channels is when someone posts a clip on here.

I don't even use social media.

Try again.

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Ditch the Illegals and Trannies and start lowering taxes and admit your past mistakes and you might regain audience share.

How about YOU guys stop overspending? THEN we can lower taxes.

That's how it works if you are a conservative. Something YOU guys fail to understand..

But you won't.

But YOU won't. You love big spender Republicans. Love, love, love them. Because your motto is "gimme gimme gimme but don't make me pay for it."

I have never heard a single member of the Trump cult complain about his overspending.

I have never heard a single member of the Trump cult complain about his thoroughly immoral life.

I have never heard a single member of the Trump cult complain about his neverending lies. In fact, they DENY he lies!

I have never heard a member of the Trump cult criticize Trump's far left protectionism.

I have never heard a single member of the Trump cult criticize Trump's nationalization of US companies.

I have never heard a single member of the Trump cult criticize his repeated violtions of the Posse Comitatus Act.

I have never heard a single member of the Trump cult criticize his destruction of the separation of powers.

I have never heard a single member of the Trump cult criticize his violation of the 14th Amendment.

I have heard only a handful of the cult criticize Trump's violation of the 1st Amendment.

You aren't conservatives. You are a left wing cult, just as I've been warning since 2016.

 

[g5000]

Misinformed by xiden

Biden didn't tell you idiots not to get vaxxed, dipshit. Your own MAGA propagandists did, and nearly a million of you have paid the price of your stupidity and ignorance with your lives.

 

[g5000]

 

[g5000]

Not one MAGA finds it ironic that Donald Trump wants Jimmy Kimmel fired for...

...lying.

Not one.

I am frankly stunned a massive irony vortex hasn't opened up and swallowed the planet.

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[struth]

Biden didn't tell you idiots not to get vaxxed, dipshit. Your own MAGA propagandists did, and nearly a million of you have paid the price of your stupidity and ignorance with your lives.

Xiden campaigned on undermine trust in the vaccine

Moreover the vaccine wasn’t for all the variants. That xiden allowed in when he opened the border

 

[g5000]

Xiden campaigned on undermine trust in the vaccine

Complete fiction.

Moreover the vaccine wasn’t for all the variants.

That's why you have to get a booster every year. That's why you have to get a flu shot every year.

This is exactly the kind of ignorance which weeded so many of you out of the gene pool.