Remember when Donald Trump said this?

[Mack The Finger]

None the less, you're right about Trump and the republicans. They simply spend more than democrats.

Yeah right !

 

[TemplarKormac]

Everyone has their own grand political ambitions until they hit the giant political buzz saw that is DC

 

[Oddball]

Yeah right !

Chimpola Bush certainly did.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Chimpola Bush certainly did.

Yeah Right !

 

[Invisibleflash]

Are you MAGAts ready!!

When will all the Black Rifle Coffee drinking MAGA idiots come to Jesus and confess their sins?? Repeat after me...

Trump is a despicable pos and lying con man...but he is probably better than a filthy commie dem pig. (I think.)

And why are we not sure about this?

Because a filthy commie dem pig may end up being better...if Trump's egomaniacal big head gets the world nuked.

...only time will tell.

Confess your sins MAGAts!

 

[Couchpotato]

Covid was never a "reason" to spend so much. It was an excuse.

None the less, you're right about Trump and the republicans. They simply spend more than democrats.

LOL no they dont. They are all the same. In my lifetime we have gone from spending less than 200 billion a year to over 5 trillion. Both parties have been in power for extended periods of time neither of them have significantly turned the curve of spending any direction other than up. Even when Clinton and Gingrich were able to balance the budget the spending never stopped increasing.

 

[Oddball]

Yeah Right !

True story, dude...He spent more and bloated bureaucracy at a faster rate than did Bubba.

 

[22lcidw]

The GOP has the trifecta. No more excuses. No more blaming the democrats. They're not the problem. The big spending RINO's (Trump, Johnson & Thune) are the problem.

We just saw endless smearing of DOGE trying to cut waste. And Progs ran near 2 trillion-dollar deficits for 4 years. So, you are saying that if Progs come to power and control, they will balance the budget immediately and that those whose goodies are cut off are not going to be happy campers. Progs are not helping this. They did nothing to cut the deficit and actually raised the federal budget a good amount.

 

[meaner gene]

LOL no they dont. They are all the same. In my lifetime we have gone from spending less than 200 billion a year to over 5 trillion. Both parties have been in power for extended periods of time neither of them have significantly turned the curve of spending any direction other than up. Even when Clinton and Gingrich were able to balance the budget the spending never stopped increasing.

There are two sides to the equation . Spending and revenue.
The idea is to get economic growth high enough, that the GDP is big enough to cover all the spending, without increasing the tax rates.

Do you remember Reagans famous "Laffer" curve.
The only problem is that the curve was seen as static, when every economic change, causes the curve to change. So their static view was bound to fail.

 

[22lcidw]

Increasing the debt, deficit and debt ceiling is going to cause them to lose in 2026.

The democrats, when they have a small majority, can ram anything they want down the throats of the GOP. But these weak ass RINO's don't have to balls to even try.

I think that Republican voters will slowly get disgusted if they screw this chance up. We know Progs are under a lot of globalist influence. A percentage of Republicans are also. Some of the Republican stalwarts who left the party were just neo cons. War mongers and nothing even happened to them.

 

[22lcidw]

There are two sides to the equation . Spending and revenue.
The idea is to get economic growth high enough, that the GDP is big enough to cover all the spending, without increasing the tax rates.

Do you remember Reagans famous "Laffer" curve.
The only problem is that the curve was seen as static, when every economic change, causes the curve to change. So their static view was bound to fail.

Tip O'Neill made a promise to cut the social costs when Reagan's tax policies were passed. Whether Reagan believed that or not is moot. And the Tipper did not cut social costs.

 

[meaner gene]

We just saw endless smearing of DOGE trying to cut waste. And Progs ran near 2 trillion-dollar deficits for 4 years. So, you are saying that if Progs come to power and control, they will balance the budget immediately and that those whose goodies are cut off are not going to be happy campers. Progs are not helping this. They did nothing to cut the deficit and actually raised the federal budget a good amount.

Look at the other side of the coin. Under democratic leadership the stock market goes way up, unemployment goes way down, and they leave the economy much better than they inherited.
In fact, the democrats make running government look so easy, people think anybody can do it.
In 2016 Trump campaigned on "what do you have to lose?"

If only we had a crystal ball
Did you realize since Ronald Reagan, every republican put the country into a recession.
And while democrats may have inherited a recession, they always left the economy better than they found it.without having a recession of their own.

 

[citygator]

 

[YoursTruly]

I think that Republican voters will slowly get disgusted if they screw this chance up. We know Progs are under a lot of globalist influence. A percentage of Republicans are also. Some of the Republican stalwarts who left the party were just neo cons. War mongers and nothing even happened to them.

The GOP replaced bad for bad. Maybe even worse. If Trump continues to stay on Ukraine's side, he's liable to get us into a war with Russia.

 

[meaner gene]

Tip O'Neill made a promise to cut the social costs when Reagan's tax policies were passed. Whether Reagan believed that or not is moot. And the Tipper did not cut social costs.

And Ronald Reagan happily signed off on every budget.
Bill Clinton on the other hand, stood up to congress.
And he was the only president since Eisenhower to actually produce a budget surplus.
What Al Gore was going to put in a lock box, but Bush Jr. spent it on his tax cut.

 

[meaner gene]

The GOP replaced bad for bad. Maybe even worse. If Trump continues to stay on Ukraine's side, he's liable to get us into a war with Russia.

And if Trump doesn't show that America stands behind its allies, then he's liable to get us into a war with China.

 

[Mack The Finger]

True story, dude...He spent more and bloated bureaucracy at a faster rate than did Bubba.

What about Sleepy Joe...how much did he run it up ? Everything $$$ wise goes up !

When you give the GOV $$$ and power....it never lessens even when the crisis is over.

 

[Oddball]

What about Sleepy Joe ? Everything $$$ wise goes up !

When you give the GOV $$$ and power....it never lessens even when the crisis is over.

Whatabout nothing...Dubya was as fucked a "republican" as there ever was...And the "republican" congress he had for six years enabling him was even shittier.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Whatabout nothing...Dubya was as fucked a "republican" as there ever was...And the "republican" congress he had for six years enabling him was even shittier.

Oddball...I just got off the phone OMB and he said you live up to your handle.

and that if they had a oddball convention....you would be the head speaker.

 

[Oddball]

Oddball...I just got off the phone OMB and he said you live up to your handle.

and that if they had a oddball convention....you would be the head speaker.

So you can't refute that republicans have blown sunshine up your ass, about being fiscally responsible and in favor of less bureaucracy.

Capitulation accepted.