You choose which side to take, based on how many "happy points" you'll get for your argument.
Let me tell you, I don't give a shit about how many "Agrees" or "fuck yous" I get on my posts. I post what is real, and don't care about anything else.
What you do, boss, and ding, is forum masturbation. To be honest...
And by the way, I do have a lot of faith. I am a very spiritual person. Which is why religious fanatics totally piss me off.
They follow no truth except the one that they were born into. And brainwashed by their parents and family. A baby never gets to choose his/her religion upon birth, it is already done for her/him.
Few people change after the initial brainwashing. I did. And some others here did too. But at least 95% of people in this world don't change from the religion they were born into.
So given all the religions in the world, you would think that there is one that is correct, or more correct than the others. Yet almost everyone never waivers from the religion they were born into.
The ones who do waiver, are probably here on this board arguing about the stupidity of religion. The rest of you just secretly want to convert or kill each other.
Boss-man does not even believe in a religion, he's doing this for shits and giggles.
He'll end this thread by saying that he was just trying to debate a subject.
Don't listen to what he says, because he's just a troll...
Not about shits or giggles. Not trolling. I don't have a religion and I also have no ax to grind with religion. That makes me an objective opinion.
Your poorly worded OP claims religion is the antithesis of ethics and morality. All you've presented as support for this opinion is a litany of bad things you hold religion responsible for. You dismiss and ignore any good from religion.
You seem to be completely oblivious to how the vast majority of what we define as morality and ethics stems from our unique religious or spiritual beliefs.
Like I said, you're just here to debate something you have no interest in. You're here for the fun of debate. Which is why you make arguments that don't have spiritual meaning behind it.
And by the way, I do have a lot of faith. I am a very spiritual person. Which is why religious fanatics totally piss me off.
They follow no truth except the one that they were born into. And brainwashed by their parents and family. A baby never gets to choose his/her religion upon birth, it is already done for her/him.
Few people change after the initial brainwashing. I did. And some others here did too. But at least 95% of people in this world don't change from the religion they were born into.
So given all the religions in the world, you would think that there is one that is correct, or more correct than the others. Yet almost everyone never waivers from the religion they were born into.
The ones who do waiver, are probably here on this board arguing about the stupidity of religion. The rest of you just secretly want to convert or kill each other.
Boss-man does not even believe in a religion, he's doing this for shits and giggles.
He'll end this thread by saying that he was just trying to debate a subject.
Don't listen to what he says, because he's just a troll...
Not about shits or giggles. Not trolling. I don't have a religion and I also have no ax to grind with religion. That makes me an objective opinion.
Your poorly worded OP claims religion is the antithesis of ethics and morality. All you've presented as support for this opinion is a litany of bad things you hold religion responsible for. You dismiss and ignore any good from religion.
You seem to be completely oblivious to how the vast majority of what we define as morality and ethics stems from our unique religious or spiritual beliefs.
Like I said, you're just here to debate something you have no interest in. You're here for the fun of debate. Which is why you make arguments that don't have spiritual meaning behind it.
You are entitled to your opinion. Yup, I come here to debate and discuss ideas. What is your purpose? Looks like it's to grandstand and Christian bash. Hey, I get it... them Christians are pains in the ass pushing their morality and making it hard to do what you please.
I can't speak for the whole world or all religions, indeed, some places you can be killed if you don't profess a certain view... or maybe if you do. Not everyone has religious freedom. I don't want to dispute your 95% claims but I can tell you, Christianity is a religion of acceptance. That comes from the heart of the individual. You cannot be forced to be Christian. It's like being forced to love... it's not possible.
In America, many children are raised attending church. This is generally done to instill moral values at an early age, in hopes the child won't turn out to be a hoodlum. You somehow think that's a bad thing and we'd all be better off without it. You call it brainwashing... but for what exactly? To abide certain standards of decent behavior? To love and forgive? To be thankful and have grace? Such terrible and awful attributes to instill when we all should be learning behavior from great apes, right?
My point is that religious morality is an oxymoron. You can't have one and the other, if you truly follow a "big three" religion.
Unless you just gloss over all the things they did to get you to modern-day.
I don't just bash Christianity, trust me, Jews and Muslims are equally bad. Their morals dictated that it was "good" to kill/torture/rape infidels. Because they didn't believe in the same religion. It is written in the holy books, and documented in the history books. So as a true believer, someone cannot just gloss over those facts and just take the good parts that make them "feel good". That person has to understand the bad parts. And if they still believe it, then they accept the bad parts, and morally corrupt themselves. If they just accept the good parts, then they don't follow a religion. They follow their personal faith, and they need to understand that. They should not be listening to what the religious rulers say if they are following their personal faith. That's a BIG problem nowadays and in the past....
You don't need religion to teach morals. Otherwise, we never would have survived the first generation of humankind. It can be understood without the need of religious doctrine. And is a principle part of evolution. Because any species that is "evil" (ie "no morals" in the case of humans), will quickly die out. Other species of life show altruism all over the world, without the need to believe in a religion.
And religion's true purpose is to create an army of followers. Willing to donate and die for the benefit of the rulers. That is why it was created.
But, you can have your personal faith, and moral boundaries, without having to sell yourselves to them. It just takes thinking outside the box.
