Related To The School Shooting....

[Penelope]

Yes people do evil things, but there is no reason we need to have assault weapons

Not your call, nor the government's.

And in any case certainly not a matter for discussion before you define "assault weapon"

Let me be more frank, any weapon that holds a cartridge should be outlawed.

 

[Penelope]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

You want to go by the Bible and bring back the stoning days. By the way , this nation was not founded on Judaism, the time judeo Christian came into effect is when Israel declared their statehood. As a matter of fact Jews were outcasts same as Catholics, no different than blacks. That is the Protestant history.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yes people do evil things, but there is no reason we need to have assault weapons, people only need to have pistols to defend oneself , so if you want to shoot an assault weapon join the military.

Also ask yourself why so many military vets have PTSD, they have done things and seen things that haunt them, those who go in wanting to fight, its like a high they get, re-enlist. So we have many different types of mass shooters, but they are usually white males that are citizens.

"Yes people do evil things,..."


OK.....the witness is dismissed.


You should read the rest of this thread....it may just teach you a great deal.

I doubt I could learn anything from you.

"I doubt I could learn anything from you."

If you leave off those last two words, you'd probably be correct.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Yes people do evil things, but there is no reason we need to have assault weapons

Not your call, nor the government's.

And in any case certainly not a matter for discussion before you define "assault weapon"

Let me be more frank, any weapon that holds a cartridge should be outlawed.

Yet "Democrats don't want to ban guns". Gotcha.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

You want to go by the Bible and bring back the stoning days. By the way , this nation was not founded on Judaism, the time judeo Christian came into effect is when Israel declared their statehood. As a matter of fact Jews were outcasts same as Catholics, no different than blacks. That is the Protestant history.

"...this nation was not founded on Judaism,..."

My statement referred to the Judeo-Christian faith.


And, as always, I am correct.


"...a few of the nuggets he dissects in his lectures, from Phillips’ letter to a Dutch friend during the American Revolution, intercepted by the British and taken for secret code because it was written in Yiddish, to Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin’s proposals for a Great Seal featuring not an eagle but Moses and the Israelites crossing the Red Sea.

Rather than just tolerate the Jews as another religious minority, America’s Founding Fathers were profoundly inspired by Jewish ideas, from the biblical reservations about the expansive rights of kings to Judaism’s core idea: divine election. They erected their new republic accordingly, understanding liberty not as an individual license for each of us to pursue his or her bliss but as a collective commitment to a greater good under the watchful eyes of God.

Using the Jewish wedding ritual as metaphor—Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, attended the wedding of Phillips’ daughter Rachel—Soloveichik reminds us that the coming together of two people, like the coming together of a nation, is both a contract and a covenant, an acknowledgment of difference that also serves to seal a union.



American Christians, long feeling ill-at-ease in a culture progressively mistrustful of religion, don’t have to retreat, as some recent thinkers have suggested, into cloistered communities far from the madding crowd; instead, they should come to see themselves as American Jews always had, as both strangers and neighbors, simultaneously bound to and different from the rest of the nation. And they—and we with them—should see religious liberty not as something to be tolerated but as a sacred cause, helping each other to defend our differences whenever they are called into question or come under attack.

...the freedom America offers us all is the freedom to come together, not the freedom to stand apart. It’s always been that way, and if we want there to be an America centuries from now, we should fight to make sure it remains this way still."
In American Jewish History, a Key to Future Greatness



Did you know that a quote from the Old Testament is written on the the Liberty Bell?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

Is this just a long winded way of repeating that "Since we kicked God out of schools, He can't protect the children" nonsense?

Why would you doubt it?


Traditional faith and Liberalism couldn't be more different.....and mass shooting represent one more of the disastrous fruits of the latter.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yes people do evil things, but there is no reason we need to have assault weapons

Not your call, nor the government's.

And in any case certainly not a matter for discussion before you define "assault weapon"

Let me be more frank, any weapon that holds a cartridge should be outlawed.

Yet "Democrats don't want to ban guns". Gotcha.

But, do want to ban penalties for gun crimes...

"Gov. Jerry Brown Signs Bill Removing Penalty for Using Gun in Crime"
Gov. Jerry Brown Signs Bill Removing Penalty for Using Gun in Crime | Breitbart

 

[edthecynic]

"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor.”

Is 13: 15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.

16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

 

[Penelope]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

You want to go by the Bible and bring back the stoning days. By the way , this nation was not founded on Judaism, the time judeo Christian came into effect is when Israel declared their statehood. As a matter of fact Jews were outcasts same as Catholics, no different than blacks. That is the Protestant history.

"...this nation was not founded on Judaism,..."

My statement referred to the Judeo-Christian faith.


And, as always, I am correct.


"...a few of the nuggets he dissects in his lectures, from Phillips’ letter to a Dutch friend during the American Revolution, intercepted by the British and taken for secret code because it was written in Yiddish, to Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin’s proposals for a Great Seal featuring not an eagle but Moses and the Israelites crossing the Red Sea.

Rather than just tolerate the Jews as another religious minority, America’s Founding Fathers were profoundly inspired by Jewish ideas, from the biblical reservations about the expansive rights of kings to Judaism’s core idea: divine election. They erected their new republic accordingly, understanding liberty not as an individual license for each of us to pursue his or her bliss but as a collective commitment to a greater good under the watchful eyes of God.

Using the Jewish wedding ritual as metaphor—Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, attended the wedding of Phillips’ daughter Rachel—Soloveichik reminds us that the coming together of two people, like the coming together of a nation, is both a contract and a covenant, an acknowledgment of difference that also serves to seal a union.



American Christians, long feeling ill-at-ease in a culture progressively mistrustful of religion, don’t have to retreat, as some recent thinkers have suggested, into cloistered communities far from the madding crowd; instead, they should come to see themselves as American Jews always had, as both strangers and neighbors, simultaneously bound to and different from the rest of the nation. And they—and we with them—should see religious liberty not as something to be tolerated but as a sacred cause, helping each other to defend our differences whenever they are called into question or come under attack.

...the freedom America offers us all is the freedom to come together, not the freedom to stand apart. It’s always been that way, and if we want there to be an America centuries from now, we should fight to make sure it remains this way still."
In American Jewish History, a Key to Future Greatness



Did you know that a quote from the Old Testament is written on the the Liberty Bell?

I don't care. This country was not founded on Judaism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yes people do evil things, but there is no reason we need to have assault weapons

Not your call, nor the government's.

And in any case certainly not a matter for discussion before you define "assault weapon"

Let me be more frank, any weapon that holds a cartridge should be outlawed.

Even if we were to make those out of pages from the Bible?
I would have guess that would be to your liking.


"April 13, 1798, was a Friday. But it was springtime in revolutionary Paris, meaning that under the Directory’s new calendar it was the twenty-forth day of the month of Germinal in the Year Six, and the next day of rest was still six days distant, not two.

Has any reform been more futile? The Government’s arrogant discard of Christianity means that weeks have been extended to ten days instead of seven. The revision’s intent is to supplant the papal calendar with a uniform alternative of twelve months of thirty days each, based on the system of ancient Egypt. Bibles themselves were torn up to make paper gun cartridges in the grim days of 1793, and now the biblical week has been guillotined, each month instead divided into three decades of ten days, with the year, with the year beginning at the autumn equinox and five to six holidays added to balance idealism with our solar orbit. Not content with regimenting the calendar, the government has introduced a new metric system for weight and measure. There are even proposals for a new clock of precisely 100,000 seconds each day. Reason, reason!...The new calendar is the kind of logical idea imposed by clever people that completely ignores habit, emotion, and human nature and thus forecasts the Revolution’s doom."
From the novel “Napoleon’ Pyramids,” by William Dietrich

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

You want to go by the Bible and bring back the stoning days. By the way , this nation was not founded on Judaism, the time judeo Christian came into effect is when Israel declared their statehood. As a matter of fact Jews were outcasts same as Catholics, no different than blacks. That is the Protestant history.

"...this nation was not founded on Judaism,..."

My statement referred to the Judeo-Christian faith.


And, as always, I am correct.


"...a few of the nuggets he dissects in his lectures, from Phillips’ letter to a Dutch friend during the American Revolution, intercepted by the British and taken for secret code because it was written in Yiddish, to Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin’s proposals for a Great Seal featuring not an eagle but Moses and the Israelites crossing the Red Sea.

Rather than just tolerate the Jews as another religious minority, America’s Founding Fathers were profoundly inspired by Jewish ideas, from the biblical reservations about the expansive rights of kings to Judaism’s core idea: divine election. They erected their new republic accordingly, understanding liberty not as an individual license for each of us to pursue his or her bliss but as a collective commitment to a greater good under the watchful eyes of God.

Using the Jewish wedding ritual as metaphor—Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, attended the wedding of Phillips’ daughter Rachel—Soloveichik reminds us that the coming together of two people, like the coming together of a nation, is both a contract and a covenant, an acknowledgment of difference that also serves to seal a union.



American Christians, long feeling ill-at-ease in a culture progressively mistrustful of religion, don’t have to retreat, as some recent thinkers have suggested, into cloistered communities far from the madding crowd; instead, they should come to see themselves as American Jews always had, as both strangers and neighbors, simultaneously bound to and different from the rest of the nation. And they—and we with them—should see religious liberty not as something to be tolerated but as a sacred cause, helping each other to defend our differences whenever they are called into question or come under attack.

...the freedom America offers us all is the freedom to come together, not the freedom to stand apart. It’s always been that way, and if we want there to be an America centuries from now, we should fight to make sure it remains this way still."
In American Jewish History, a Key to Future Greatness



Did you know that a quote from the Old Testament is written on the the Liberty Bell?

I don't care. This country was not founded on Judaism.

You're not a quick learner.....let's try again.
My statement referred to the Judeo-Christian faith.


And, as always, I am correct.


"...a few of the nuggets he dissects in his lectures, from Phillips’ letter to a Dutch friend during the American Revolution, intercepted by the British and taken for secret code because it was written in Yiddish, to Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin’s proposals for a Great Seal featuring not an eagle but Moses and the Israelites crossing the Red Sea.

Rather than just tolerate the Jews as another religious minority, America’s Founding Fathers were profoundly inspired by Jewish ideas, from the biblical reservations about the expansive rights of kings to Judaism’s core idea: divine election. They erected their new republic accordingly, understanding liberty not as an individual license for each of us to pursue his or her bliss but as a collective commitment to a greater good under the watchful eyes of God.

Using the Jewish wedding ritual as metaphor—Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, attended the wedding of Phillips’ daughter Rachel—Soloveichik reminds us that the coming together of two people, like the coming together of a nation, is both a contract and a covenant, an acknowledgment of difference that also serves to seal a union.



American Christians, long feeling ill-at-ease in a culture progressively mistrustful of religion, don’t have to retreat, as some recent thinkers have suggested, into cloistered communities far from the madding crowd; instead, they should come to see themselves as American Jews always had, as both strangers and neighbors, simultaneously bound to and different from the rest of the nation. And they—and we with them—should see religious liberty not as something to be tolerated but as a sacred cause, helping each other to defend our differences whenever they are called into question or come under attack.

...the freedom America offers us all is the freedom to come together, not the freedom to stand apart. It’s always been that way, and if we want there to be an America centuries from now, we should fight to make sure it remains this way still."
In American Jewish History, a Key to Future Greatness



Did you know that a quote from the Old Testament is written on the the Liberty Bell?



And the Constitution was largely based on the Old Testament, too.

 

[WinterBorn]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

Is this just a long winded way of repeating that "Since we kicked God out of schools, He can't protect the children" nonsense?

Why would you doubt it?


Traditional faith and Liberalism couldn't be more different.....and mass shooting represent one more of the disastrous fruits of the latter.

Because I was taught my faith at home. As were most people I know. It went with us to school, whether there was a school-led prayer or not.

The idea that God was "removed from school" is laughable.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

Is this just a long winded way of repeating that "Since we kicked God out of schools, He can't protect the children" nonsense?

Why would you doubt it?


Traditional faith and Liberalism couldn't be more different.....and mass shooting represent one more of the disastrous fruits of the latter.

Because I was taught my faith at home. As were most people I know. It went with us to school, whether there was a school-led prayer or not.

The idea that God was "removed from school" is laughable.

So, as a result of "my faith at home..
As were most people I know. It went with us to school, whether there was a school-led prayer or not" ......you never shot up your school....



And your schoolmates, for whom the same applied, behaved in the same manner.
I believe you've reinforced my point.

 

[edthecynic]

In fact....that is the aim of 'evil,' to cause good folks to do evil. Whether one attributes that to the personification of evil, Lucifer/Satan, or simply call it a force, like gravity, that influences all of us at one time or another....it exists.

"The Bible is the wisdom of the West.

Romans 12:17-21; 17) Return evil for evil to no one. Provide fine things in the sight of all men.
18) If possible, as far as it depends upon you, be peaceable with all men.
19)Do not avenge yourself, beloved, but yield place to the wrath; for it is written: "Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says Jehovah."
20) But "if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by doing this you will heap fiery coals upon his head."
21) Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil, but keep conquering the evil with good.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

Is this just a long winded way of repeating that "Since we kicked God out of schools, He can't protect the children" nonsense?

Why would you doubt it?


Traditional faith and Liberalism couldn't be more different.....and mass shooting represent one more of the disastrous fruits of the latter.

Because I was taught my faith at home. As were most people I know. It went with us to school, whether there was a school-led prayer or not.

The idea that God was "removed from school" is laughable.

"The idea that God was "removed from school" is laughable."

That 'laughing' is of the sort that Lord Byron referred to...“And if I laugh at any mortal thing, 'Tis that I may not weep.”


"High School Quarterback Penalized For Thanking God

 

[edthecynic]

the Left, the most dynamic political force in society, decided that we could impose our own individual judgment for that which the Bible provides...

Psalms 137: 9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

 

[PoliticalChic]

High School Quarterback Penalized For Thanking God
So on Oct. 17 when Dante ran 73 yards for a touchdown, the 17-year-old quarterback raised a single finger to the sky.

Dante was honoring the Lord. But a referee said he was taunting.

READ THE FULL STORY AT FOXNEWS.COM!

Todd Starnes Articles - Political Columnist & Commentator - Todd Starnes




"Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Yesterday, Joe Kennedy, an assistant high-school–football coach in Bremerton, Wash., was suspended. His offense? Kneeling for a short on-field prayer after football games. According to multiple news reports, for the last several years Kennedy has waited until each game ends and the players leave the field before walking to the 50-yard line and offering a quiet prayer for his students. He never asks anyone to join him, nor does he stop anyone who wants to do so.

Read more at: Football Coach Suspended for Praying: How Lawless Judges Empower Censorship of Christians | [site:name] | National Review

 

[WinterBorn]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

Is this just a long winded way of repeating that "Since we kicked God out of schools, He can't protect the children" nonsense?

Why would you doubt it?


Traditional faith and Liberalism couldn't be more different.....and mass shooting represent one more of the disastrous fruits of the latter.

Because I was taught my faith at home. As were most people I know. It went with us to school, whether there was a school-led prayer or not.

The idea that God was "removed from school" is laughable.

So, as a result of "my faith at home..
As were most people I know. It went with us to school, whether there was a school-led prayer or not" ......you never shot up your school....



And your schoolmates, for whom the same applied, behaved in the same manner.
I believe you've reinforced my point.

If your point was that removing school led religion from school caused the school shootings, I do not believe I have reinforced any such thing.

The world has become more hostile and people more disconnected. That is not because the Lord's Prayer is no longer read over the intercom system. And the removal of school led prayer did not "remove God" from schools. The idea that God would protect children in school if He was "allowed in school" is laughable as well.

 

[WinterBorn]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

Is this just a long winded way of repeating that "Since we kicked God out of schools, He can't protect the children" nonsense?

Why would you doubt it?


Traditional faith and Liberalism couldn't be more different.....and mass shooting represent one more of the disastrous fruits of the latter.

Because I was taught my faith at home. As were most people I know. It went with us to school, whether there was a school-led prayer or not.

The idea that God was "removed from school" is laughable.

"The idea that God was "removed from school" is laughable."

That 'laughing' is of the sort that Lord Byron referred to...“And if I laugh at any mortal thing, 'Tis that I may not weep.”


"High School Quarterback Penalized For Thanking God

And that is stupid. If all he did was point to the sky, it should never have been penalized.

But after every school shooting there are claims that God could not help the school children because he was not allowed in the school. That is equally (if not more) ridiculous and stupid.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fact is, that cog-in-the-wheel view is necessary for military victory.

6. OK....but what if we are not in a war? What is the basis for decision-making by individuals in a civilized society?

How does religion get to be the arbiter?


"The Bible is the wisdom of the West. It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed- systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible to that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.”

It is these rules and laws which form a framework which allows the individual foreknowledge of that which is permitted and that which is forbidden."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."



By driving religion out of our schools, the Left has made room for a very different perspective.

Is this just a long winded way of repeating that "Since we kicked God out of schools, He can't protect the children" nonsense?

Why would you doubt it?


Traditional faith and Liberalism couldn't be more different.....and mass shooting represent one more of the disastrous fruits of the latter.

Because I was taught my faith at home. As were most people I know. It went with us to school, whether there was a school-led prayer or not.

The idea that God was "removed from school" is laughable.

So, as a result of "my faith at home..
As were most people I know. It went with us to school, whether there was a school-led prayer or not" ......you never shot up your school....



And your schoolmates, for whom the same applied, behaved in the same manner.
I believe you've reinforced my point.

If your point was that removing school led religion from school caused the school shootings, I do not believe I have reinforced any such thing.

The world has become more hostile and people more disconnected. That is not because the Lord's Prayer is no longer read over the intercom system. And the removal of school led prayer did not "remove God" from schools. The idea that God would protect children in school if He was "allowed in school" is laughable as well.

Actually, you have supported my thesis....it's about faith, and you've admitted that it influenced you.


Further....

"That leaves us with some uncomfortable possibilities remaining. What has changed from thirty years ago when kids could take firearms into school responsibly and today might involve some difficult truths.

Let’s inventory the possibilities.

What changed? The mainstreaming of nihilism. Cultural decay. Chemicals. The deliberate destruction of moral backstops in the culture. A lost commonality of shared societal pressures to enforce right and wrong. And above all, simple, pure, evil.

Before you retort that we can’t account for the mentally ill, they existed forever.

Paranoid schizophrenics existed in 1888 and 2018. Mentally ill students weren’t showing up in schools with guns even three decades ago.

So it must be something else."
Flashback 30 Years: When Guns Were in Schools ... and Nothing Happened