Refugees and the right to return

[ForeverYoung436]

the Europeans who stole Palestine could and should be resettled

Cool. When can we resettle the Arabs who stole Byzantium?

When did the Arabs "steal" Byzantium? You need to hit the books moron.

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Byzantine Empire - Wikipedia

When can we expect the Arabs/Muslims to depart from their stolen territory?

Posting a link to Wiki which shows you are a moron is not helpful. Just admit you haven't a clue and are confused. The Arabs did not steal Constantinople from anyone, moron. It's the same with every other propagandist lie you people spout.

Get the Arabs out of Byzantium.....now!!

There are no Arabs in Byzantium.

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Muslims in Constantinople. What are you trying to prove by splitting hairs?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Posting a link to Wiki which shows you are a moron is not helpful. Just admit you haven't a clue and are confused. The Arabs did not steal Constantinople from anyone, moron. It's the same with every other propagandist lie you people spout.

Get the Arabs out of Byzantium.....now!!

There are no Arabs in Byzantium.

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When can we expect the Arabs/Muslims to depart from their stolen territory?

It would take another Crusades to free all the stolen Muslim lands.

We could start with Palestine and reestablish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Let's start with all the crappy Muslim countries first.

 

[montelatici]

Get the Arabs out of Byzantium.....now!!

There are no Arabs in Byzantium.

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When can we expect the Arabs/Muslims to depart from their stolen territory?

It would take another Crusades to free all the stolen Muslim lands.

We could start with Palestine and reestablish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Let's start with all the crappy Muslim countries first.

Naw, there are Christians to be freed in Palestine plus it is tradtional for Crusaders to conquer Palestine first.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There are no Arabs in Byzantium.

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When can we expect the Arabs/Muslims to depart from their stolen territory?

It would take another Crusades to free all the stolen Muslim lands.

We could start with Palestine and reestablish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Let's start with all the crappy Muslim countries first.

Naw, there are Christians to be freed in Palestine plus it is tradtional for Crusaders to conquer Palestine first.

We can settle the Christians in Lebanon.
Fight the weak Muslims. Israel can help.

 

[montelatici]

When can we expect the Arabs/Muslims to depart from their stolen territory?

It would take another Crusades to free all the stolen Muslim lands.

We could start with Palestine and reestablish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Let's start with all the crappy Muslim countries first.

Naw, there are Christians to be freed in Palestine plus it is tradtional for Crusaders to conquer Palestine first.

We can settle the Christians in Lebanon.
Fight the weak Muslims. Israel can help.

Why would Christian Crusaders have anything to do with Jews. At least Muslims revere Jesus Christ. Under Crusader law, Jews would be the first to be expelled from re-conquered Christian lands. You need to think this through better.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It would take another Crusades to free all the stolen Muslim lands.

We could start with Palestine and reestablish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Let's start with all the crappy Muslim countries first.

Naw, there are Christians to be freed in Palestine plus it is tradtional for Crusaders to conquer Palestine first.

We can settle the Christians in Lebanon.
Fight the weak Muslims. Israel can help.

Why would Christian Crusaders have anything to do with Jews. At least Muslims revere Jesus Christ. Under Crusader law, Jews would be the first to be expelled from re-conquered Christian lands. You need to think this through better.

Why would Christian Crusaders have anything to do with Jews.

I agree. That's why they should clear out all the Muslims and leave Israel alone.

At least Muslims revere Jesus Christ.

Yeah, Muslims love them some Jews.

Under Crusader law,

We'd boot some Muzzie ass.

 

[xyz]

They should return.
To any other failed Muslim nation.

For example, the United States?

People like you were screaming that Obama wants to turn the US into a Muslim state.

 

[MJB12741]

When did the Arabs "steal" Byzantium? You need to hit the books moron.

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Byzantine Empire - Wikipedia

When can we expect the Arabs/Muslims to depart from their stolen territory?

Posting a link to Wiki which shows you are a moron is not helpful. Just admit you haven't a clue and are confused. The Arabs did not steal Constantinople from anyone, moron. It's the same with every other propagandist lie you people spout.

Get the Arabs out of Byzantium.....now!!

There are no Arabs in Byzantium.

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Muslims in Constantinople. What are you trying to prove by splitting hairs?

Yep! Once stolen by Muslims it would take another Crusades to get back what was rightfully your land.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They should return.
To any other failed Muslim nation.

For example, the United States?

People like you were screaming that Obama wants to turn the US into a Muslim state.

Yes, the United States should also send our Muslims to a failed Muslim state.
I hear Syria is nice....plenty of free space.

 

[montelatici]

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Byzantine Empire - Wikipedia

When can we expect the Arabs/Muslims to depart from their stolen territory?

Posting a link to Wiki which shows you are a moron is not helpful. Just admit you haven't a clue and are confused. The Arabs did not steal Constantinople from anyone, moron. It's the same with every other propagandist lie you people spout.

Get the Arabs out of Byzantium.....now!!

There are no Arabs in Byzantium.

View attachment 134939

Muslims in Constantinople. What are you trying to prove by splitting hairs?

Yep! Once stolen by Muslims it would take another Crusades to get back what was rightfully your land.

Crusade are designed to return lands to Christendom. Jews, like Muslims are considered pagans.

Deus Vult.

"On whom, therefore, is the labor of avenging these wrongs and of recovering this territory incumbent, if not upon you, you upon whom, above all other nations, God has conferred remarkable glory in arms, great courage, bodily activity, and strength to humble the heads of those who resist you ? Let the deeds of your ancestors encourage you and incite your minds to manly achievements:-the greatness of King Charlemagne, and of his son Louis, and of your other monarchs, who have destroyed the kingdoms of the Turks and have extended the sway of Church over lands previously possessed by the pagan. Let the holy sepulcher of our Lord and Saviour, which is possessed by unclean nations, especially arouse you, and the holy places which are now treated, with ignominy and irreverently polluted with the filth of the unclean. Oh, most valiant soldiers and descendants of invincible ancestors, do not degenerate; our progenitors., but recall the valor of your progenitors.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Posting a link to Wiki which shows you are a moron is not helpful. Just admit you haven't a clue and are confused. The Arabs did not steal Constantinople from anyone, moron. It's the same with every other propagandist lie you people spout.

Get the Arabs out of Byzantium.....now!!

There are no Arabs in Byzantium.

View attachment 134939

Muslims in Constantinople. What are you trying to prove by splitting hairs?

Yep! Once stolen by Muslims it would take another Crusades to get back what was rightfully your land.

Crusade are designed to return lands to Christendom. Jews, like Muslims are considered pagans.

Deus Vult.

"On whom, therefore, is the labor of avenging these wrongs and of recovering this territory incumbent, if not upon you, you upon whom, above all other nations, God has conferred remarkable glory in arms, great courage, bodily activity, and strength to humble the heads of those who resist you ? Let the deeds of your ancestors encourage you and incite your minds to manly achievements:-the greatness of King Charlemagne, and of his son Louis, and of your other monarchs, who have destroyed the kingdoms of the Turks and have extended the sway of Church over lands previously possessed by the pagan. Let the holy sepulcher of our Lord and Saviour, which is possessed by unclean nations, especially arouse you, and the holy places which are now treated, with ignominy and irreverently polluted with the filth of the unclean. Oh, most valiant soldiers and descendants of invincible ancestors, do not degenerate; our progenitors., but recall the valor of your progenitors.

The Muzzies are the dangerous pagans.
Clear them out first.

 

[ProudVeteran76]

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All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

That would be me.

Susan Akram
B.A., with honors, University of Michigan at Ann Arbor
J.D., Georgetown University Law Center
Diplome in International Human Rights, Institut International des Droits de l’Homme, Strasbourg (France)

Anyone in favor of the right to return does not want peace.

They want to destroy Israel and have another Diaspora.


Or worse.

Sure they want peace. They just don't want Israel's version of peace.

The Israelis want Peace. They just don't want the Palestinian's version of peace; To have a Palestinian majority which would anneliate them and eventually annex them to Palestine. For that reason alone, the " two state solution" is forever dead

There are certainly quite a few Zionist dummies. They must be the Christian useful idiots. Hey genius, the two-state solution was the only solution that might have allowed the Jews to maintain a majority in a limited space, even though with no more large Jew populations inclined to move to israel, that was not a sure thing.

Now that only a single state is possible, the Jews might be able to rule over a majority of non-Jews for a generation or so, but the demographics are not favorable for the Jews. A western style democratic secular state or an Apartheid state with Jew rule are the only two options now.

Hey, stupid; The Arabs should have accepted the TWO STATE SOLUTION in 48; or certainly before '67 !!!!

 

[montelatici]

[Here is an article which is asking to become a thread. Who will start one? ]
All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

That would be me.

Susan Akram
B.A., with honors, University of Michigan at Ann Arbor
J.D., Georgetown University Law Center
Diplome in International Human Rights, Institut International des Droits de l’Homme, Strasbourg (France)

Anyone in favor of the right to return does not want peace.

They want to destroy Israel and have another Diaspora.


Or worse.

Sure they want peace. They just don't want Israel's version of peace.

The Israelis want Peace. They just don't want the Palestinian's version of peace; To have a Palestinian majority which would anneliate them and eventually annex them to Palestine. For that reason alone, the " two state solution" is forever dead

There are certainly quite a few Zionist dummies. They must be the Christian useful idiots. Hey genius, the two-state solution was the only solution that might have allowed the Jews to maintain a majority in a limited space, even though with no more large Jew populations inclined to move to israel, that was not a sure thing.

Now that only a single state is possible, the Jews might be able to rule over a majority of non-Jews for a generation or so, but the demographics are not favorable for the Jews. A western style democratic secular state or an Apartheid state with Jew rule are the only two options now.

Hey, stupid; The Arabs should have accepted the TWO STATE SOLUTION in 48; or certainly before '67 !!!!

The partition in 1948 left a third of the Muslims and Christians within the Jew partition and would have relegated them disenfranchised never to achieve self-determination. This, notwithstanding being a majority (when combined with the Muslim Bedouin population) because the UN insisted that Jews had to rule over non-Jews. No people could have accepted relegating a third of their population, who still owned 90% of the land, within the Jew partition to subservience to Jews forever.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Anyone in favor of the right to return does not want peace.

They want to destroy Israel and have another Diaspora.


Or worse.

Sure they want peace. They just don't want Israel's version of peace.

The Israelis want Peace. They just don't want the Palestinian's version of peace; To have a Palestinian majority which would anneliate them and eventually annex them to Palestine. For that reason alone, the " two state solution" is forever dead

There are certainly quite a few Zionist dummies. They must be the Christian useful idiots. Hey genius, the two-state solution was the only solution that might have allowed the Jews to maintain a majority in a limited space, even though with no more large Jew populations inclined to move to israel, that was not a sure thing.

Now that only a single state is possible, the Jews might be able to rule over a majority of non-Jews for a generation or so, but the demographics are not favorable for the Jews. A western style democratic secular state or an Apartheid state with Jew rule are the only two options now.

Hey, stupid; The Arabs should have accepted the TWO STATE SOLUTION in 48; or certainly before '67 !!!!

The partition in 1948 left a third of the Muslims and Christians within the Jew partition and would have relegated them disenfranchised never to achieve self-determination. This, notwithstanding being a majority (when combined with the Muslim Bedouin population) because the UN insisted that Jews had to rule over non-Jews. No people could have accepted relegating a third of their population, who still owned 90% of the land, within the Jew partition to subservience to Jews forever.

They should start and lose another war. Because losing land seems to be an Arab thing.

 

[fanger]

I think the jewish Illegal immigrants to palestine should be offered the right of return, to whence they came.
Stealing Land seems to be a jewish thing

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I think the jewish Illegal immigrants to palestine should be offered the right of return, to whence they came.
Stealing Land seems to be a jewish thing

I think the jewish Illegal immigrants to palestine should be offered the right of return,

I agree, illegal immigrants to that imaginary nation need to leave.
And then all the Muslims should leave Israel.

 

[Shusha]

The partition in 1948 left a third of the Muslims and Christians within the Jew partition and would have relegated them disenfranchised never to achieve self-determination. This, notwithstanding being a majority (when combined with the Muslim Bedouin population) because the UN insisted that Jews had to rule over non-Jews. No people could have accepted relegating a third of their population, who still owned 90% of the land, within the Jew partition to subservience to Jews forever.

Your premise is in error. Your premise is that a population of one culture can not live in a nation dominated by another culture, because to do so is "subservience". By your premise, every nation must be completely ethnically homogeneous. That is just a false premise.

This is an Arab Muslim way of thinking, though, stemming from ideas of dhimmi status, which they falsely then project onto other peoples.

 

[montelatici]

The partition in 1948 left a third of the Muslims and Christians within the Jew partition and would have relegated them disenfranchised never to achieve self-determination. This, notwithstanding being a majority (when combined with the Muslim Bedouin population) because the UN insisted that Jews had to rule over non-Jews. No people could have accepted relegating a third of their population, who still owned 90% of the land, within the Jew partition to subservience to Jews forever.

Your premise is in error. Your premise is that a population of one culture can not live in a nation dominated by another culture, because to do so is "subservience". By your premise, every nation must be completely ethnically homogeneous. That is just a false premise.

This is an Arab Muslim way of thinking, though, stemming from ideas of dhimmi status, which they falsely then project onto other peoples.

No, it's the Zionist way of thinking that only people that practice Judaism must rule and that the state they rule can't be a secular state with equality for people of all confessions.

 

[Shusha]

I am not conceding anything. This is assuming that Israel is a legitimate state that nobody has proven to be true.

This is one of your more ridiculous arguments. And a blatant double standard you hold against Israel alone. Israel meets every legal criteria (the most obvious being recognition) and is just like every other state on the planet. It doesn't have to "prove" its legitimacy. Rather, you would have to conclusively demonstrate that it somehow doesn't meet the criteria of being a State.

 

[fanger]

The partition in 1948 left a third of the Muslims and Christians within the Jew partition and would have relegated them disenfranchised never to achieve self-determination. This, notwithstanding being a majority (when combined with the Muslim Bedouin population) because the UN insisted that Jews had to rule over non-Jews. No people could have accepted relegating a third of their population, who still owned 90% of the land, within the Jew partition to subservience to Jews forever.

Your premise is in error. Your premise is that a population of one culture can not live in a nation dominated by another culture, because to do so is "subservience". By your premise, every nation must be completely ethnically homogeneous. That is just a false premise.

This is an Arab Muslim way of thinking, though, stemming from ideas of dhimmi status, which they falsely then project onto other peoples.

A dhimmi ([ðimi]; Arabic: ذمي, meaning "protected person") refers to specific individuals living in Muslim lands, who were granted special status and safety in Islamic law in return for paying the capital tax. This status was originally only made available to non-Muslims who were People of the Book, namely, Jews and Christians), but was later extended to include Zoroastrians, Mandeans, and, in some areas, Hindus[1] and Buddhists.[2] The term connotes an obligation of the state to protect the individual, including the individual's life, property, and freedom of religion and worship, and required loyalty to the empire, and a poll tax known as the jizya.Dhimmi had fewer legal and social rights than Muslims, but more rights than other non-Muslim religious subjects.[3] This status applied to millions of people living from the Atlantic Ocean to India from the seventh century until modern times.
Dhimmi - New World Encyclopedia
Americans pay a Tax to israel, does that make them Dhimmi's to israel or merely Dhummi's?