Record Number of Carry Permits in U.S.

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Gang bangers and other various criminals love gun buying sprees by the public. They know that means more firearms out there that they will eventually get their hands on..

Wow

Just fucking wow
240,000 Guns Are Stolen Each Year. Criminals Use Them to Injure and Kill.


So what? If a criminal didn't have a firearm, they could easily have another weapon.

You need to study history. Events like the Crusades and the Battle of Cannae were very violent. Many people killed, and all before firearms were even invented.

I don't know about you, but I have no preference to being knifed to death or stones or burned, as opposed to being shot. Pretending as if gunophobia solves anything is absurd.
This all started with me merely saying that gun buying sprees put more guns out there to steal...All I got in reply was diversion because nobody could dispute that fact.


And you are still wrong. In fact, before they are bought by the consumer, guns (or any other merchandise) is a lot easier to steal.

I suppose a thief could break into someone's domicile and steal their arsenal. But how many guns does the average person have? Not many I'll tell you that, compared to gun factories. If I wanted to steal some firearms, I'd look at Army bases or police stations or gun factories and seek to hijack a carload or a trailer full. Thieves aren't as stupid as you make them out to be.
Or, if you're a Mexican drug cartel, you could just let the Obama Administration give them to you for free.
Fast and Furious was an attempt to follow gun purchases made by straw buyers in the states for the bad guys down south...where do you get 'for free'?
Do you really believe that. The Obama administration made no effort to track the guns. I guess they figured that when the Mexicans took the guns off dead criminals the US would find out how they got from the US to the criminals. At least the Bush Administration tried putting GPS trackers into the guns they sold to the cartels.
 
Why are you still here?

I have a lot of fun mocking right wing freaks. It's kind of like those 18th Century people who visited Bedlam to watch the looneys for entertainment.

He would have done better to imitate John F'ing Kerry and gone into a gun store dressed like Elmer Fudd and ask the clerk "Is this where I git me a huntin' license?"

Kerry Lost. Biden is going to win, buddy. Sometimes it's better to hold to your principles.

Like I said, simple solution to the gun problem. Repeal the law that gives immunity to gun sellers and manufacturers for gun violence. You'll betcha they'll be very careful who they sell to after that.

And then sue car makers for all automobile deaths.....great plan...you fucking moron.
 
You mock others by being wrong about everything and showing your ass?
Okay dumbass.... carry on.

No, I mock you for pointing out your crazy.

The best argument for gun control is a five minute conversation with a gun nut wanking off about all the people he wants to shoot.


And since you never have those conversations except in your head, you should see a professional to help you....
 
And the best argument against it is the realization that there are people like you out there.

If you have a gun because you are afraid of me, then you have serious issues.

Oh, wait, we've already established you have serious issues.

No, it's a way to get around our Constitution. It's part of the Communist playbook. Biden wants to put all sellers and manufacturers out of business which allowing anybody to sue them would certainly do. Democrats are anti-Americans.

That would be a tragedy, NOT.

Actually, what we'd end up with is a system like Germany, where people can own guns, but only after they've undergone rigorous background checks. the problem with the gun industry is that they happily sell to criminals and the mentally ill knowing people like you will get scared and want them, too.

There's no sane reason why someone like Nicholas Cruz could have been able to buy a gun.


Yes, the Germans murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children in Europe.....we should all pay attention to you and follow their example...you nitwit...
 
Of course anybody should be afraid of you. You are a Democrat, and Democrats are violent people. The only reason we need guns is because of Democrats.

Again, Ray, I'm waiting for the headline "Cleveland Man goes on Unexplained Shooting Rampage". You're a hate crime looking for a place to happen.

It's you people on the left who constantly cry we need more background checks. Well, Cruz had a background check. He never committed a felony before and he was never diagnosed with mental issues. And we will not end up with a system like Germany because for one, owning a gun is a right in our Constitution, and two, if there are no place to buy firearms, how would you own one under any circumstance?

Then background checks were insufficient. They should do what they do when they employ you, they check with past employers and co-workers.

If they had done that with Cruz, talked to his teachers and his neighbors, no way he'd have gotten a gun.

Of course, if they talked to your HUD neighbors, no way you'd get a gun either, so there's that. :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:


Hey....shit bag......the Pulse night club shooter passed an extensive background check for his security job.....he then passed background checks for each gun he purchased, and when the FBI was alerted that he might be a terrorist, he passed a complete FBI background check, 3 interviews with FBI interrogators and even an undercover approach by FBI agents....and passed all of them with flying colors....

You moron....you have no idea what you are talking about..
 
Then background checks were insufficient. They should do what they do when they employ you, they check with past employers and co-workers.

If they had done that with Cruz, talked to his teachers and his neighbors, no way he'd have gotten a gun.

Of course, if they talked to your HUD neighbors, no way you'd get a gun either, so there's that.


And that's exactly why government should not be deciding on who gets a gun and who doesn't. Thanks for giving me a good example of that.

Under our Constitution, there is no way to deny him a gun. You can't violate rights based on an opinion. You can't hold trials in your living room and judge a crime that never happened yet. In our country, you are innocent until proven guilty, in spite of Democrat objections.

Again, Ray, I'm waiting for the headline "Cleveland Man goes on Unexplained Shooting Rampage". You're a hate crime looking for a place to happen.

And yet in 60 years that never happened.
Well, Joe hates the Constitution, because it doesn't allow the totalitarian government he so desperately desires.
 
Actually, America is 55th in murder rate- hardly at the top at all.

And nations like Mexico-which is praised by the left for its draconian style gun control- have a lot higher rate.

Actually, nobody praises Mexico for it's gun policy. They have a second Amendment just like we do.

Says the Commie who justifies Democrats releasing violent felons from prison early.

Again, you're the ones who want to lock up non-violent offenders so the Prison Industrial Complex can make money off of them.
In Mexico a civilian can’t own any gun except a pistol with a caliber of .380 (9mm short) or less (what would be considered a Saturday night special in the US), a .22 rifle or a shotgun of 12 gauge or less. For a civilian to own any more that a total of TWO of those guns, the government must decide that he NEEDS more than two guns. No Mexican Citizen may own more than one pistol and nine shotguns and/or rifles in total under any circumstances. Only firearms bought from a legal gun store are allowed and there is only ONE legal gun store in all of Mexico and it’s located in Mexico City D.F. So run that by us again. You might do a little simple research before spouting nonsense.
 
Actually, America is 55th in murder rate- hardly at the top at all.

And nations like Mexico-which is praised by the left for its draconian style gun control- have a lot higher rate.

Actually, nobody praises Mexico for it's gun policy. They have a second Amendment just like we do.

Says the Commie who justifies Democrats releasing violent felons from prison early.

Again, you're the ones who want to lock up non-violent offenders so the Prison Industrial Complex can make money off of them.
In Mexico a civilian can’t own any gun except a pistol with a caliber of .380 (9mm short) or less (what would be considered a Saturday night special in the US), a .22 rifle or a shotgun of 12 gauge or less. For a civilian to own any more that a total of TWO of those guns, the government must decide that he NEEDS more than two guns. No Mexican Citizen may own more than one pistol and nine shotguns and/or rifles in total under any circumstances. Only firearms bought from a legal gun store are allowed and there is only ONE legal gun store in all of Mexico and it’s located in Mexico City D.F. So run that by us again. You might do a little simple research before spouting nonsense.


Research isn't his thing.......rage, hate, and pulling crap out of his ass is his thing...
 
Actually, America is 55th in murder rate- hardly at the top at all.

And nations like Mexico-which is praised by the left for its draconian style gun control- have a lot higher rate.

Actually, nobody praises Mexico for it's gun policy. They have a second Amendment just like we do.

Says the Commie who justifies Democrats releasing violent felons from prison early.

Again, you're the ones who want to lock up non-violent offenders so the Prison Industrial Complex can make money off of them.
In Mexico a civilian can’t own any gun except a pistol with a caliber of .380 (9mm short) or less (what would be considered a Saturday night special in the US), a .22 rifle or a shotgun of 12 gauge or less. For a civilian to own any more that a total of TWO of those guns, the government must decide that he NEEDS more than two guns. No Mexican Citizen may own more than one pistol and nine shotguns and/or rifles in total under any circumstances. Only firearms bought from a legal gun store are allowed and there is only ONE legal gun store in all of Mexico and it’s located in Mexico City D.F. So run that by us again. You might do a little simple research before spouting nonsense.


But...but....then how do the drug cartels get fully automatic military rifles, .50 caliber sniper rifles, rocket lauchers, grenades, and anything else they want? But.......but.....gun contro?
 
And the best argument against it is the realization that there are people like you out there.

If you have a gun because you are afraid of me, then you have serious issues.

Oh, wait, we've already established you have serious issues.

No, it's a way to get around our Constitution. It's part of the Communist playbook. Biden wants to put all sellers and manufacturers out of business which allowing anybody to sue them would certainly do. Democrats are anti-Americans.

That would be a tragedy, NOT.

Actually, what we'd end up with is a system like Germany, where people can own guns, but only after they've undergone rigorous background checks. the problem with the gun industry is that they happily sell to criminals and the mentally ill knowing people like you will get scared and want them, too.

There's no sane reason why someone like Nicholas Cruz could have been able to buy a gun.
Delusional assholes who hate freedom are something to be concerned about.

Much more so than a lone killer like Cruz, IMO.


You don't realize that you are one, do you?
 
Hey....shit bag......the Pulse night club shooter passed an extensive background check for his security job.....he then passed background checks for each gun he purchased, and when the FBI was alerted that he might be a terrorist, he passed a complete FBI background check, 3 interviews with FBI interrogators and even an undercover approach by FBI agents....and passed all of them with flying colors....

You moron....you have no idea what you are talking about..

Even to get a CCW in our state you are checked out throughly. Plus the fact I have a CDL, and I was TSA certified to handle air and overseas freight. I was told the TSA check takes a week or more to get clearance.

But Joe thinks in spite of all the government checking on me, my low educated HUD neighbor should be the arbiter of whether I own a gun or not, the same HUD neighbor that shot at his wife breaking the kitchen window and putting a bullet hole in his car outside.
 
And that's exactly why government should not be deciding on who gets a gun and who doesn't. Thanks for giving me a good example of that.

Under our Constitution, there is no way to deny him a gun. You can't violate rights based on an opinion. You can't hold trials in your living room and judge a crime that never happened yet. In our country, you are innocent until proven guilty, in spite of Democrat objections.

Sure there is.

Here's the conversation.

"I want me an AR-15 and a 100 round clip! Meh, heheheheheheh..."

"Okay, are you a member of a well-regulated Militia?"

"Um, no."

"No Gun for you!!!"

See, that was easy.

And yet in 60 years that never happened.

yet.
 
Well, Joe hates the Constitution, because it doesn't allow the totalitarian government he so desperately desires.

This is very clear. He also believes that citizens are not constitutionally allowed to own firearms, and the founders intent is it was only for militias, in spite of the USSC stating differently.


That's the thing that doesn't make any sense to me. Why would the "right" for the government militias to be armed be something in the Bill of Rights- a document that deals with individual rights.

Even in the old USSR and National Socialist Germany, the army had the "right" to be armed. The weapons held by the government and the army are necessary, but it isn't a "civil liberty" is any sense of the word.
 
And then sue car makers for all automobile deaths.....great plan...you fucking moron.

If the car makers acted like the gunmakers do, I would.

This is what you'd be driving if the Automakers were like the Gun Industry.

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And they'd see this guy as a prime customer.

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Hey....shit bag......the Pulse night club shooter passed an extensive background check for his security job.....he then passed background checks for each gun he purchased, and when the FBI was alerted that he might be a terrorist, he passed a complete FBI background check, 3 interviews with FBI interrogators and even an undercover approach by FBI agents....and passed all of them with flying colors....

Then those background checks were INSUFFICIENT.

So, everyone who signed off on him having a gun - FIRED. Make them do the fucking WALK OF SHAME out of FBI headquarters, the next guy will do his job.
 
This is very clear. He also believes that citizens are not constitutionally allowed to own firearms, and the founders intent is it was only for militias, in spite of the USSC stating differently.

Well, if it wasn't then it wouldn't have taken the USSC 200 years to make that determination.

The keeping and bearing of arms is a tradition dating back to our founding and has always been recognized.
 
The keeping and bearing of arms is a tradition dating back to our founding and has always been recognized.

So where slavery and the genocide of Native Americans...

That doesn't make it a good idea.

Actually, the tradition is kind of a lie. Most Americans didn't own guns, which were expensive and didn't really have a practical use.

The reason why the NRA was founded was because Americans didn't know shit about guns, and it showed in the Civil War.
 
And then sue car makers for all automobile deaths.....great plan...you fucking moron.

If the car makers acted like the gunmakers do, I would.

This is what you'd be driving if the Automakers were like the Gun Industry.

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And they'd see this guy as a prime customer.

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Hey....shit bag......the Pulse night club shooter passed an extensive background check for his security job.....he then passed background checks for each gun he purchased, and when the FBI was alerted that he might be a terrorist, he passed a complete FBI background check, 3 interviews with FBI interrogators and even an undercover approach by FBI agents....and passed all of them with flying colors....

Then those background checks were INSUFFICIENT.

So, everyone who signed off on him having a gun - FIRED. Make them do the fucking WALK OF SHAME out of FBI headquarters, the next guy will do his job.


Cars kill over 35,000 people a year.....they are worse than gun makers......accidental gun deaths were 458 in 2019.........
 
And then sue car makers for all automobile deaths.....great plan...you fucking moron.

If the car makers acted like the gunmakers do, I would.

This is what you'd be driving if the Automakers were like the Gun Industry.

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And they'd see this guy as a prime customer.

View attachment 409415

Hey....shit bag......the Pulse night club shooter passed an extensive background check for his security job.....he then passed background checks for each gun he purchased, and when the FBI was alerted that he might be a terrorist, he passed a complete FBI background check, 3 interviews with FBI interrogators and even an undercover approach by FBI agents....and passed all of them with flying colors....

Then those background checks were INSUFFICIENT.

So, everyone who signed off on him having a gun - FIRED. Make them do the fucking WALK OF SHAME out of FBI headquarters, the next guy will do his job.


A full, detailed background check for his job as a security guard......a federal background check for each gun he bought......a full, detailed FBI background check as a suspected terrorist, 3 full FBI interviews, and an undercover approach by the FBI...but since he hadn't committed any crime...at all, he passed them with flying, fucking, colors....you moron....

If you don't commit a crime, they can't take your guns....and they can't lock you up.....that's how it works, you dumb ass.
 
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