Record Number of Carry Permits in U.S.

[daveman]

LOL..... and people don't speed on the freeway or smoke weed either.
Come on, man.....









Quick class for all the well behaved folks out there who don't know how to access the gray/black market in America; talk to the guy who sells your kid weed, or else check into a decent hotel and ask the concierge to hook you up with a decent call girl agency, and ask them to get you a gun. Illegal businesses can't call the cops if they get ripped off, so they are always armed. "Smuggler's Blues", baby....
Be cool, and be prepared to part with a good chunk of cash; you need to be tipping heavily along the way. And don't hesitate to smoke some weed or bang the call girl to establish your credibility, you're paying for it anyway.


They are determined to make criminals out of us all, act accordingly.

I think that there is a difference between a speeding ticket, a few joints of weed, and possessing an illegal firearm. I believe most of our fellow citizens obey the laws in this country, especially federal laws. For the ones that don't, if they get a stolen or illegally manufactured firearm. What can they do with it? If they use it for self-defense, the cops are going to find out where you got the gun from.

It's kind of like my CCW license. I don't know what states I would have reciprocity in, but if it were in NY, especially NYC, or California, I would never dream of using a gun there. Commie states let the bad guys go and arrest the good guys.

Leftists have criminalized self-defense.

Leftists hate normal Americans.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Leftists have criminalized self-defense.

Leftists hate normal Americans.

Leftists always side with evil, and righties always side with the good.

 

[freyasman]

LOL..... and people don't speed on the freeway or smoke weed either.
Come on, man.....









Quick class for all the well behaved folks out there who don't know how to access the gray/black market in America; talk to the guy who sells your kid weed, or else check into a decent hotel and ask the concierge to hook you up with a decent call girl agency, and ask them to get you a gun. Illegal businesses can't call the cops if they get ripped off, so they are always armed. "Smuggler's Blues", baby....
Be cool, and be prepared to part with a good chunk of cash; you need to be tipping heavily along the way. And don't hesitate to smoke some weed or bang the call girl to establish your credibility, you're paying for it anyway.


They are determined to make criminals out of us all, act accordingly.

I think that there is a difference between a speeding ticket, a few joints of weed, and possessing an illegal firearm. I believe most of our fellow citizens obey the laws in this country, especially federal laws. For the ones that don't, if they get a stolen or illegally manufactured firearm. What can they do with it? If they use it for self-defense, the cops are going to find out where you got the gun from.

It's kind of like my CCW license. I don't know what states I would have reciprocity in, but if it were in NY, especially NYC, or California, I would never dream of using a gun there. Commie states let the bad guys go and arrest the good guys.

Leftists have criminalized self-defense.

Leftists hate normal Americans.

The Angry Man

coldfury.com

From the link;
"The Angry Man
Posted on October 26, 2020 by Mike 3 Comments
It unclear to me who actually wrote this grand-slam piece, but I found it in tonight’s AOSHQ ONT.

For all the interest group pandering that shapes modern American politics, the group that may well have decided the election recently might have come down to the demographic of “The Angry Man.”
The Angry Man is difficult to stereotype. He comes from all economic backgrounds, from dirt-poor to filthy rich. He represents all geographic areas in America, from sophisticated urbanite to rural redneck, Deep South to Yankee North, Left Coast to Eastern Seaboard.
No matter where he’s from, Angry Men share many common traits; they aren’t asking for anything from anyone other than the promise to be able to make their own way on a level playing field. In many cases, they are independent businessmen and employ several people. They pay more than their share of taxes and they work very hard for what they have and intend to keep.
He’s used to picking up the tab, whether it’s the Christmas party for the employees at his company, three sets of braces, college educations or a beautiful wedding or two. Not because he was forced to, but because it’s the right thing to do.
The Angry Man believes the Constitution should be interpreted as it was written. It is not as a “living document” open to the whims and vagaries of appointed judges and political winds.
The Angry Man owns firearms, and he’s willing to pick up a gun and use it in defense of his home, his country and his family. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of others, and the thought of killing someone if necessary to achieve those goals gives him only momentary pause.
The Angry Man is not, and never will be, a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina. He got his people together and got out. Then, he went back in to rescue those who needed help or were too stupid to help themselves in the first place. He was selfless in this, just as often a civilian as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter. Victimhood syndrome buzzwords; “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” don’t resonate with The Angry Man. “Press ‘one’ for English” is a curse-word to him.
His last name, his race and his religion don’t matter. His ancestry might be Italian, English, African, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, Russian, Hispanic or any of a hundred others. What does matter is that he considers himself in every way to be an American. He is proud of this country and thinks that if you aren’t, you are whole-heartedly encouraged to find one that suits you and move there.
The Angry Man is usually a man’s man. The kind of guy who likes to play poker, watch football, go hunting, play golf, maintain his own vehicles and build things. He coaches kid’s baseball, soccer and football and doesn’t ask for a penny. He’s the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a couple of friends, drill an oil well, design a factory or work the land. He can fill a train with 100,000 tons of coal and get it to the power plant so that you can keep the lights on while never knowing everything it took to do that. The Angry Man is the backbone of this country.
He’s not racist, but is truly disappointed and annoyed, when people exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their ethnicity. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they’re willing to work hard and play by the rules. He expects other people to do the same. Above all, he has integrity in everything he does.
The Angry Man votes, and he loathes the dysfunction now rampant in government. It’s the victim groups being pandered to and the “poor me” attitude that they represent. The inability of politicians to give a straight answer to an honest question. The tax dollars that are given to people who simply don’t want to do anything for themselves. The fact that, because of very real consequences, he must stay within a budget but for some obscure reason the government he finances doesn’t. Mostly, it’s the blatantly arrogant attitude displayed implying that we are too stupid to run our own lives and only people in government are smart enough to do that.
The Angry Man has reached his limit. When a social justice agitator goes on TV, leading some rally for Black Lives Matter, safe spaces or other such nonsense, he may bite his tongue but, he remembers. When a child gets charged with carrying a concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school, he takes note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement. But when government officials are repeatedly caught red-handed breaking the law and getting off scot-free, The Angry Man balls-up his fists and readies himself for the coming fight. He knows that this fight, will be a live or die situation, so he prepares fully. Make no mistake, this is a fight in which he is not willing to lose and he will never give up.
Obama calls him a Clinger.
Hillary calls him Deplorable.
Bill calls him Redneck.
Black lives Matter calls him Racist.
Feminists call him Sexist.
ISIS calls him an Infidel.
Donald Trump calls him an American.

Ultimately, that’s the real reason they hate Trump so much: because, unlike them, Trump doesn’t hate us."

 

[Shawnee_b]

He is always on the wrong side, without fail.... it's almost got to be on purpose, because even the dumbest fucks will get something right on accident once in a while.

Paid shill.

 

[Shawnee_b]

There is a good write up about it in the book "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross.

https://www.amazon.com/Unintended-Consequences-John-Ross/dp/1888118040&tag=ff0d01-20

It's worth the price, btw.
[/QUOTE]

Have it since it came out. Hard cover, read many times. There are other good ones but that one reigns.

 

[freyasman]

There is a good write up about it in the book "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross.

https://www.amazon.com/Unintended-Consequences-John-Ross/dp/1888118040&tag=ff0d01-20

It's worth the price, btw.

Have it since it came out. Hard cover, read many times. There are other good ones but that one reigns.
[/QUOTE]
I read that cover to cover 20 years ago when I was laid up with a broken leg after a bad Airborne op.
Lent it out to a couple people and had to literally threaten to beat the shit out of them to get it back, lol.

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe you should stop doing drugs...?

Obama's not in office any more. We're not sending guns to the cartels.

Actually, it's still very much a problem. Probably even worse under Trump.

The flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico is getting lost in the border debate

The Trump administration has not addressed a root cause of the violence that drives the displacement of many families in Mexico and Central America: the flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico.

www.pbs.org

Research shows that a majority of guns in Mexico can be traced to the U.S. A report from the U.S Government Accountability Office showed that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico by Mexican authorities and submitted for tracing have a U.S. origin. This percentage remains consistent, said Bradley Engelbert, a spokesperson for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. And the Trump has administration has recently taken steps to ease rules on gun exports, which enables manufacturers to sell guns in Mexico and Central America countries.

A report from the Center of American Progress found that the United States was the primary source of weapons used in crime in Mexico and Canada. Other countries in Central America can also trace a large proportion of guns seized in crimes to the United States. For example, the report found that from 2014 to 2016, 49 percent of crime guns seized in El Salvador were originally purchased in the U.S. In Honduras, 45 percent of guns recovered in crime scenes were traced to the United States as well.

 

[2aguy]

Maybe you should stop doing drugs...?

Obama's not in office any more. We're not sending guns to the cartels.

Actually, it's still very much a problem. Probably even worse under Trump.

The flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico is getting lost in the border debate

The Trump administration has not addressed a root cause of the violence that drives the displacement of many families in Mexico and Central America: the flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico.

www.pbs.org

Research shows that a majority of guns in Mexico can be traced to the U.S. A report from the U.S Government Accountability Office showed that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico by Mexican authorities and submitted for tracing have a U.S. origin. This percentage remains consistent, said Bradley Engelbert, a spokesperson for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. And the Trump has administration has recently taken steps to ease rules on gun exports, which enables manufacturers to sell guns in Mexico and Central America countries.

A report from the Center of American Progress found that the United States was the primary source of weapons used in crime in Mexico and Canada. Other countries in Central America can also trace a large proportion of guns seized in crimes to the United States. For example, the report found that from 2014 to 2016, 49 percent of crime guns seized in El Salvador were originally purchased in the U.S. In Honduras, 45 percent of guns recovered in crime scenes were traced to the United States as well.

Wrong.....the majority of guns come from China and Europe.....the guns you are talking about, doofus, are given to the Mexican military and then passed through them to the drug cartels...you doofus.

And the guns traced are a tiny portion of the guns they find...only the U.S. guns are traceable, you doofus.

In fact, the 3,480 guns positively traced to the United States equals less than 12 percent of the total arms seized in Mexico in 2008 and less than 48 percent of all those submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF for tracing. This means that almost 90 percent of the guns seized in Mexico in 2008 were not traced back to the United States.
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It is also important to understand that the Mexican authorities simply don't bother to submit some classes of weapons to the ATF for tracing. Such weapons include firearms they identify as coming from their own military or police forces, or guns that they can trace back themselves as being sold through the Mexican Defense Department's Arms and Ammunition Marketing Division (UCAM).
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Type 3: Guns Not Available for Civilian Purchase in Mexico or the U.S.

The third category of weapons encountered in Mexico is military-grade ordnance not generally available for sale in the United States or Mexico. This category includes hand grenades, 40 mm grenades, rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), automatic assault rifles and main battle rifles and light machine guns.

This third type of weapon is fairly difficult and very expensive to obtain in the United States, especially in the large numbers in which the cartels are employing them. They are also dangerous to obtain in the United States due to heavy law enforcement scrutiny. Therefore, most of the military ordnance used by the Mexican cartels comes from other sources, such as the international arms market — increasingly from China via the same networks that furnish precursor chemicals for narcotics manufacturing — or from corrupt elements in the Mexican military or even deserters who take their weapons with them. Besides, items such as South Korean fragmentation grenades and RPG-7s, often used by the cartels, simply are not in the U.S. arsenal. This means that very few of the weapons in this category come from the United States.

Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

It is a common claim that almost all the weapons used by Mexican drug cartels come from the United States, but the numbers don't add up.

worldview.stratfor.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-control-laws-a-model-for-the-united-states/


Whatever the exact percentage, it is incorrect to assert that purchases from American gun stores for the purposes of smuggling into Mexico are the prime source of American guns in Mexico. To the contrary, of the Mexican guns that are successfully traced to the U.S., the average firearms age is fifteen years, according to data compiled by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives.

The age of these guns is strong evidence that they were legal American guns that were stolen and then sold into the black market–and not guns which were bought at a gun store as part of a plan for them to be immediately transported to Mexico.

Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

It is a common claim that almost all the weapons used by Mexican drug cartels come from the United States, but the numbers don't add up.

worldview.stratfor.com

Report: Guns recovered in Central America traced to non-U.S. sources

Agents traced the majority of these recovered guns to foreign countries — or no source at all.

Over 71 percent of the 2,182 guns recovered in Honduras came from non-U.S. manufacturers, according to the report. Likewise, 60 percent of the 152 guns found in Panama, 53 percent of the 623 guns from Honduras and 51 percent of the 2,718 the guns recovered in El Salvador were traced to foreign manufacturers.
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Analysis of the guns traced back to the United States shows less than a third came from retailers, according to the report. In El Salvador, for example, 50 percent of the 1,329 guns traced to American manufacturers were linked to foreign countries and another 40 percent weren’t traceable at all. About 30 percent of guns recovered in Honduras traced back to American retailers — the highest percentage for any of the five reporting countries.
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[JoeB131]

Wrong.....the majority of guns come from China and Europe...

The Mexican authorities say otherwise... But never mind... Sure. Let's get a gun all the way from Europe where they are hard to get when you can just drive into Billy-Bob's Guns R Us and get them.

That makes sense... said no one ever.

 

[Polishprince]

Wrong.....the majority of guns come from China and Europe...

The Mexican authorities say otherwise... But never mind... Sure. Let's get a gun all the way from Europe where they are hard to get when you can just drive into Billy-Bob's Guns R Us and get them.

That makes sense... said no one ever.

Europe has lots of arms, apparently you are unfamiliar with the attacks in Paris a few years ago.

 

[2aguy]

Wrong.....the majority of guns come from China and Europe...

The Mexican authorities say otherwise... But never mind... Sure. Let's get a gun all the way from Europe where they are hard to get when you can just drive into Billy-Bob's Guns R Us and get them.

That makes sense... said no one ever.

Yes.....the Mexican authorities, who are owned and controlled by the drug cartels say something else.....you really are a doofus.

As the report says, doofus......they can't get the guns from gun stores, and the guns that turn up are stolen guns that have been gone for years before they turn up in Mexico...the real guns they have the actual military rifles, rocket launchers and grenades they get from the U.S....when corrupt Mexican officials sell them to the drug cartels...or the cartels get them from China and Europe...you doofus...

 

[JoeB131]

Europe has lots of arms, apparently you are unfamiliar with the attacks in Paris a few years ago.

Point was, it was a few years ago.

We have mass shooting so often we can't even keep track. I guess that's one thing that Trump Plague has managed, it's kept anyone from doing a mass shooting because everyone's stuck at home.

Yes.....the Mexican authorities, who are owned and controlled by the drug cartels say something else.....you really are a doofus.

You go on with the NRA Spooge, buddy..

But all these guns they recover, started life in American Gun Stores...

 

[Polishprince]

Europe has lots of arms, apparently you are unfamiliar with the attacks in Paris a few years ago.

Point was, it was a few years ago.

We have mass shooting so often we can't even keep track. I guess that's one thing that Trump Plague has managed, it's kept anyone from doing a mass shooting because everyone's stuck at home.

Yes.....the Mexican authorities, who are owned and controlled by the drug cartels say something else.....you really are a doofus.

You go on with the NRA Spooge, buddy..

But all these guns they recover, started life in American Gun Stores...

If it wasn't for the libs attacking the right of Law Abiders to defend themselves, there wouldn't be as big a run on the gun stores. People are stocking up in anticipation of Sleepy Joe's threats to disarm the people.

 

[JoeB131]

If it wasn't for the libs attacking the right of Law Abiders to defend themselves, there wouldn't be as big a run on the gun stores. People are stocking up in anticipation of Sleepy Joe's threats to disarm the people.

Yes, the Gun Industry is very good at getting you guys to buy more "Compensation"...

 

[freyasman]

If it wasn't for the libs attacking the right of Law Abiders to defend themselves, there wouldn't be as big a run on the gun stores. People are stocking up in anticipation of Sleepy Joe's threats to disarm the people.

Yes, the Gun Industry is very good at getting you guys to buy more "Compensation"...

Question:

Why are you still here?


I mean, you have totally discredited yourself and no one believes anything you say, so WTF? You're not changing anyone's mind about anything, and you have made yourself an object of ridicule with this pathetic insistence on denying reality, so...........what's your deal?

Why are you still here posting obvious nonsense?

What's the point?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, the Gun Industry is very good at getting you guys to buy more "Compensation"...

Not nearly as good as the Democrats are.

 

[2aguy]

Europe has lots of arms, apparently you are unfamiliar with the attacks in Paris a few years ago.

Point was, it was a few years ago.

We have mass shooting so often we can't even keep track. I guess that's one thing that Trump Plague has managed, it's kept anyone from doing a mass shooting because everyone's stuck at home.

Yes.....the Mexican authorities, who are owned and controlled by the drug cartels say something else.....you really are a doofus.

You go on with the NRA Spooge, buddy..

But all these guns they recover, started life in American Gun Stores...

We had 10 in 2019 in a country of over 330 million people with a land mass the size of the entire western Europe......

Total killed? 76

76 people killed in mass public shootings in 2019.....in a country of over 330 million people.......

Cars killed over 35,000...........

knives killed over 1,500 and kill that many every single year...

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies and murders...

1.1 million vs 76 killed........

You have no argument.

 

[2aguy]

Europe has lots of arms, apparently you are unfamiliar with the attacks in Paris a few years ago.

Point was, it was a few years ago.

We have mass shooting so often we can't even keep track. I guess that's one thing that Trump Plague has managed, it's kept anyone from doing a mass shooting because everyone's stuck at home.

Yes.....the Mexican authorities, who are owned and controlled by the drug cartels say something else.....you really are a doofus.

You go on with the NRA Spooge, buddy..

But all these guns they recover, started life in American Gun Stores...

And were stolen by criminals who are constantly released by democrat party judges and prosecutors........

And which article was from the NRA, you fucking moron?

 

[2aguy]

Europe has lots of arms, apparently you are unfamiliar with the attacks in Paris a few years ago.

Point was, it was a few years ago.

We have mass shooting so often we can't even keep track. I guess that's one thing that Trump Plague has managed, it's kept anyone from doing a mass shooting because everyone's stuck at home.

Yes.....the Mexican authorities, who are owned and controlled by the drug cartels say something else.....you really are a doofus.

You go on with the NRA Spooge, buddy..

But all these guns they recover, started life in American Gun Stores...

If it wasn't for the libs attacking the right of Law Abiders to defend themselves, there wouldn't be as big a run on the gun stores. People are stocking up in anticipation of Sleepy Joe's threats to disarm the people.

Yes....it was a great strategic move on the part of the democrats to activate gun owners this election cycle.....it worked so well in the 1990's when clinton passed the Assault Weapon ban, that the democrats lost control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years............obama was smart enough to just appoint anti-gun judges to do his dirty work.....but like he said of biden, never doubt biden's ability to fuck things up....

 

[Polishprince]

Europe has lots of arms, apparently you are unfamiliar with the attacks in Paris a few years ago.

Point was, it was a few years ago.

We have mass shooting so often we can't even keep track. I guess that's one thing that Trump Plague has managed, it's kept anyone from doing a mass shooting because everyone's stuck at home.

Yes.....the Mexican authorities, who are owned and controlled by the drug cartels say something else.....you really are a doofus.

You go on with the NRA Spooge, buddy..

But all these guns they recover, started life in American Gun Stores...

If it wasn't for the libs attacking the right of Law Abiders to defend themselves, there wouldn't be as big a run on the gun stores. People are stocking up in anticipation of Sleepy Joe's threats to disarm the people.

Yes....it was a great strategic move on the part of the democrats to activate gun owners this election cycle.....it worked so well in the 1990's when clinton passed the Assault Weapon ban, that the democrats lost control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years............obama was smart enough to just appoint anti-gun judges to do his dirty work.....but like he said of biden, never doubt biden's ability to fuck things up....

Sleepy Joe really made the mistake last year of bringing this to the forefront and appointing the phony Mexican, Beto, as his Gun Confiscation Czar during the primaries.

He would have done better to imitate John F'ing Kerry and gone into a gun store dressed like Elmer Fudd and ask the clerk "Is this where I git me a huntin' license?"