Global temperatures have fallen over the last decade.
The EPA knows it and has proactively suppressed the reporting of the fact.
You are a blatant liar, Christine.
How do you KNOW that, exactly, Dude?
I'm not saying that you are wrong.
I am merely asking you to explain how YOU KNOW that there is a cabal of climatologists and meteorologists who are in on some massive conspiracy to lie to us about the earth's overall temperature.
The recently spiked EPA study finds that global temps have fallen since 2000. Do you exclude findings that tell you what you don't want to hear??
And it's not a conspiracy, it's an echo chamber clique which also excludes all contravening evidence.
That was not an EPA study. It was an unsolicited paper by someone with no prior papers in that field. His arguements were total shit right out of the wingnut talking points.
RealClimate: Bubkes
26 Jun 2009
Bubkes
Filed under: Climate Science Greenhouse gases gavin @ 8:00 am
Some parts of the blogosphere, headed up by CEI (CO2: They call it pollution, we call it life!), are all a-twitter over an apparently suppressed document that supposedly undermines the EPA Endangerment finding about human emissions of carbon dioxide and a basket of other greenhouse gases. Well a draft of this suppressed document has been released and we can now all read this allegedly devastating critique of the EPA science. Lets take a look
A Chinese translation is available here.
First off the authors of the submission; Alan Carlin is an economist and John Davidson is an ex-member of the Carter administration Council of Environmental Quality. Neither are climate scientists. Thats not necessarily a problem perhaps they have mastered multiple fields? but it is likely an indication that the analysis is not going to be very technical (and so it will prove). Curiously, while the authors work for the NCEE (National Center for Environmental Economics), part of the EPA, they appear to have rather closely collaborated with one Ken Gregory (his inline comments appear at multiple points in the draft). Ken Gregory if you dont know is a leading light of the Friends of Science a astroturf anti-climate science lobbying group based in Alberta. Indeed, parts of the Carlin and Davidson report appear to be lifted directly from Kens rambling magnum opus on the FoS site. However, despite this odd pedigree, the scientific points could still be valid.
Their main points are nicely summarised thus: a) the science is so rapidly evolving that IPCC (2007) and CCSP (2009) reports are already out of date, b) the globe is cooling!, c) the consensus on hurricane/global warming connections has moved from uncertain to ambiguous, d) Greenland is not losing mass, no sirree
, e) the recession will save us!, f) water vapour feedback is negative!, and g) Scafetta and Wests statistical fit of temperature to an obsolete solar forcing curve means that all other detection and attribution work is wrong. From this evidence, they then claim that all variations in climate are internal variability, except for the warming trend which is caused by the sun, oh and by the way the globe is cooling.
Devastating eh?
One can see a number of basic flaws here; the complete lack of appreciation of the importance of natural variability on short time scales, the common but erroneous belief that any attribution of past climate change to solar or other forcing means that CO2 has no radiative effect, and a hopeless lack of familiarity of the basic science of detection and attribution.
Um ... I'm a bit confused by this response ... what was to who?
