Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"?

Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

  • They're irresponsible people & happy to pass their responsibility elsewhere. It's Y they love govt.

    Votes: 9 45.0%
  • It's an entitlement

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • It's a right under the Constitution. Same with free housing, clothing and food. Probably sex too.

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • They're selfish & spend their money on travel, beer, gadgets etc. Can't afford healthcare too

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Because someone told them they deserve it, so believing so is convenient

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Cuz some other countries have it. Best ignore those countries are small, united & W/O immigration

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Because they're unable to connect the dots, so of course "free" sounds AWESOME.

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 9 45.0%

  • Total voters
    20

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Well, to be totally honest, Trump never had a replacement. He just lied to the rubes and told them he did.

In actuality, Trump is as dumb as his rube herd and he believe the GOP when they said they were going to repeal and replace Obamacare.


Trump was just going to take credit for the Republican plan.

Except there never was a plan.

And the rubes have STILL not caught on they have massively hoaxed for NINE YEARS now.
Even the stray cat near your house knows you have Never been Totally Honest.
 

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Trump promised on Day One to repeal and replace Obamacare.

To this day, almost three years in, he has yet to put a replacement on the table.

Lyin' Donald is a big, fat coward. His actions prove it.
Putin McCain stopped that from happening before his trip to Hell.
 

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So it has become blindingly obvious the real Republican plan is to capitulate to the Democrats in slow motion on the road to UHC, and to pretend to be morally outraged all along the way.
 

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Trump promised on Day One to repeal and replace Obamacare.

To this day, almost three years in, he has yet to put a replacement on the table.

Lyin' Donald is a big, fat coward. His actions prove it.
Putin McCain stopped that from happening before his trip to Hell.
Nope. That's more false witness.

The bill McCain vetoed did not repeal Obamacare, much less replace it.

Trump hoaxed you yet again.

It is astonishing how you keep going back to be lied to some more. I have never seen more submissive dumb fucks than Trump's True Believers. Not even close.
 

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"You're going to have such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost, and it's going to be so easy."


President Trump's plan for Tremendous Health Care at almost unbelievable savings was defeated by a single vote in the middle of the night, that of John McCain.

The problem was that Mr. McCain really hated Donald Trump, even taking it to the grave by barring the President from his funeral, and would do anything to punish the President's supporters.
 

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The fact that the bill was not a repeal, much less a replacement, of Obamacare is exactly why McCain vetoed it.

It was a bill to sabotage Obamacare and make it even more of a disaster than it already is.

Trump has you tards thinking he tried to repeal and replace Obamacare when he has never even tried.

I can't believe how easily you idiots are hoaxed. Seriously. It's pathetic.
 

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"You're going to have such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost, and it's going to be so easy."


President Trump's plan for Tremendous Health Care at almost unbelievable savings was defeated by a single vote in the middle of the night, that of John McCain.

The problem was that Mr. McCain really hated Donald Trump, even taking it to the grave by barring the President from his funeral, and would do anything to punish the President's supporters.
Wrong. See post 184.

If you need more evidence you were hoaxed, I will be more than happy to shove it up your ass if you need it.
 

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When Trump says something three times, you can bet your house he is lying through his fat face.

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Make no mistake,” the president said at one point, “this is a repeal and a replace of Obamacare, make no mistake about it. Make no mistake.”

The bill to which Trump was referring did not even repeal, much less replace, ObamaCare.

Here is the bill McCain thumbed down: https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HealthCareFreedomAct.pdf

Here are some summaries of that bill if you don't want to read it all:

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/s.a.667.pdf

http://files.kff.org/attachment/Summary-of-the-Health-Care-Freedom-Act


As you can plainly see, it is neither a total repeal nor a replacement of Obamacare.

“Make no mistake,” the president said at one point, “this is a repeal and a replace of Obamacare, make no mistake about it. Make no mistake.”


Trump lied out his fucking fat ass, and he bore false witness against McCain.

The man is a disgrace. A total disgrace.

So these results are ALL on Trump:

U.S. Health Care Costs Skyrocketed to $3.65 Trillion in 2018

Health Insurance Costs Surpass $20,000 Per Year, Hitting a Record
 
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The fact that the bill was not a repeal, much less a replacement, of Obamacare is exactly why McCain vetoed it.

It was a bill to sabotage Obamacare and make it even more of a disaster than it already is.

Trump has you tards thinking he tried to repeal and replace Obamacare when he has never even tried.

I can't believe how easily you idiots are hoaxed. Seriously. It's pathetic.
McCain is burning in Hell with other Evil Doers. That's where Traitors go when they decide to betray their country.
 

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Face it, rubes. You've been hoaxed by Trump yet again.

You can blubber all you want, and toss out all the venomous logical fallacies you wish, but the only person you are harming is yourself so long as you continue to defend a fat fucking liar.
 

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The Republicans have no solutions. Just bitches.

The Democrats have put solutions on the table.

So, good bad or indifferent, it is obvious whose actions will win out in the long run.
 

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The fact that the bill was not a repeal, much less a replacement, of Obamacare is exactly why McCain vetoed it.

It was a bill to sabotage Obamacare and make it even more of a disaster than it already is.

Trump has you tards thinking he tried to repeal and replace Obamacare when he has never even tried.

I can't believe how easily you idiots are hoaxed. Seriously. It's pathetic.
McCain is burning in Hell with other Evil Doers. That's where Traitors go when they decide to betray their country.
McCain is a hero who served our nation honorably in Vietnam and in the Senate. The one going to hell is the adulterous false witnessing coward Bone Spur.
 

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The fact that the bill was not a repeal, much less a replacement, of Obamacare is exactly why McCain vetoed it.

It was a bill to sabotage Obamacare and make it even more of a disaster than it already is.

Trump has you tards thinking he tried to repeal and replace Obamacare when he has never even tried.

I can't believe how easily you idiots are hoaxed. Seriously. It's pathetic.
McCain is burning in Hell with other Evil Doers. That's where Traitors go when they decide to betray their country.
McCain is a hero who served our nation honorably in Vietnam and in the Senate. The one going to hell is the adulterous false witnessing coward Bone Spur.
He lost his hero status when he started playing with Putin's Balls and kissing up to Socialists and Communists.
 

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The fact that the bill was not a repeal, much less a replacement, of Obamacare is exactly why McCain vetoed it.

It was a bill to sabotage Obamacare and make it even more of a disaster than it already is.

Trump has you tards thinking he tried to repeal and replace Obamacare when he has never even tried.

I can't believe how easily you idiots are hoaxed. Seriously. It's pathetic.
McCain is burning in Hell with other Evil Doers. That's where Traitors go when they decide to betray their country.
McCain is a hero who served our nation honorably in Vietnam and in the Senate. The one going to hell is the adulterous false witnessing coward Bone Spur.
He lost his hero status when he started playing with Putin's Balls and kissing up to Socialists and Communists.
The Trump Organization Planned To Give Vladimir Putin The $50 Million Penthouse In Trump Tower Moscow

Moscow Skyscraper Talks Continued Through ‘the Day I Won,’ Trump Is Said to Acknowledge







2013: Trump actually starts blushing like a schoolgirl when he talks about being in a relationship with his idol.





Q: Do you have a relationship with Vladimir Putin? A conversational relationship, or anything that you feel you have sway or influence over his government?

TRUMP: I do have a relationship, and I can tell you that he's very interested in what we're doing here today.
 

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The fact that the bill was not a repeal, much less a replacement, of Obamacare is exactly why McCain vetoed it.

It was a bill to sabotage Obamacare and make it even more of a disaster than it already is.

Trump has you tards thinking he tried to repeal and replace Obamacare when he has never even tried.

I can't believe how easily you idiots are hoaxed. Seriously. It's pathetic.
McCain is burning in Hell with other Evil Doers. That's where Traitors go when they decide to betray their country.
McCain is a hero who served our nation honorably in Vietnam and in the Senate. The one going to hell is the adulterous false witnessing coward Bone Spur.
He lost his hero status when he started playing with Putin's Balls and kissing up to Socialists and Communists.
McCain has never lost his "hero" status. He spent his entire adult life in the honourable service to his country. The only American playing with Putin's balls is Donald Trump, who has fulfilled all of Putin's wildest fantasies, except getting rid of the sanction, and the only reason he hasn't done that is because Congress and the Senate passed a veto-proof law that says he can't.
 

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I think there's a lot of politicians who want control. There's already been a few trans fats laws and a lot of cigarette taxes predicated upon the idea that a lot of the people harming themselves with these things won't be able to pay for their own hospital care when those habits catch up with them. Couple that factor with way our system is currently set up, where tax payers essentially pay for the privilege to tell hospitals that they can't turn anyone away, and bam, politicians can site a vested, financial interest that the taxpayers have in making sure people don't smoke or eat too much.

What happens when the taxpayers fit the bill for EVERYBODY'S healthcare, you think? Keep the government out of my bedroom? Fuck that, HIV treatment is spendy. My body my choice? Yeah, right up until the first major economic downturn.
 

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Republican Plan: Nothing. Continue forever with skyrocketing costs.

Democratic Plan: Universal health care.

Gee, I wonder which plan will win out in the long run!
You don't think switching from the current hea
Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.

1. because conservatives are irresponsible and politically INcorrect. They REFUSE to diet or exercise so by the time they are in their early 40's they are obese and out of shape, developing lung, heart, leg, back and heart problems which they will NOT be able to afford to cure so we NEED CHEAP AFFORDABLE healthcare for all of the IRRESPONSIBLE conservatives.
Like Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell?
 

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Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"? Choose up to three.
Because they are mooching deadbeats who want someone else to pay for their healthcare insurance.
Because the rest of the world spends half of what the USA spends on healthcare that is ranked #37 in the world, and has poor outcomes. US life expectancy is DECLINING while the rest of the first world is living longer. It is more profitable for your health care system to encourage sickness and addiction than to encourage the health of your nation.

Big Pharma is now paying billions for addicting millions of Americans to opiods. Advanced medicine and the costs of getting sick are driving the vast majority of personal bankruptcies. The rehap industry is cycling addicts into and out of 28 day treatment programs, because addicts are such dependable customers.

And women can't get their health insurance to pay for reproductive health issues, while more American women die in childbirth than any first world nation, and the infant mortality rate is the highest in the first world.
If we want Canada's opinion we'll beat it out of them.
 

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Oh look, "I'm trolling".

Code for you can't defend yourself.
"Code"? Your thread meets all of the standards necessary and sufficient to label it trolling. Your problems is you need to get affirmation from other biddable fools, yet it does not fool those of us who can think for ourselves.
 
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I have a solution:

A.. We reduce welfare where a mother on welfare has another child. We reduce welfare in general, including no welfare for immigrants unless they meet the standard, and only cover critical medical for illegals. However, illegals would still owe a debt to we citizens.

B. Everyone pays for healthcare, and everyone pays income tax too. Only exception are children who are wards of the State, and those who meet a threshold of truly disabled. You can do this on a sliding scale of some sort with ceilings and floors.

Suddenly the poor might take some interest in their health. All universal does is give them an excuse to abuse themselves and society. Maybe that's why PROGS love it, but I don't suspect most can connect the dots anyway.
 

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