"Reasonable" says Trump called NAZI good people

[ChrisL]

they are thugs, who wear masks and attend gatherings to create violence.

Stop 'white washing' them

Stop deflecting.

You don't agree that the Klan is repugnant?

one no worse than the other.

Real shame you have a hard on for the klan, but when 'peaceful' protestors show up at a klan protest with bats, clubs, bricks, rocks, mace, pepper spray, etc, they are no better than the klan.

The question was do "very fine people" March with the Klan like the president said?

That's where this started when you responded to me.

Do 'very fine people' march with Antifa?

I don't blame you for not answering. As a Trump supporter it's an impossible task.

Trump isn't a white supremacist, and you have no evidence of such, just like you have no evidence that anyone here who is defending free speech and free thoughts without the threat of violent attacks is a white supremacist.

Like I said before, if you wanted to change hearts and minds, you would use tact to do so. Your name calling and violent tactics and vigilantism isn't going to change anybody's hearts and minds and will drive people away. Simple really.

 

[Auld Phart]

they are thugs, who wear masks and attend gatherings to create violence.

Stop 'white washing' them

Stop deflecting.

You don't agree that the Klan is repugnant?

one no worse than the other.

Real shame you have a hard on for the klan, but when 'peaceful' protestors show up at a klan protest with bats, clubs, bricks, rocks, mace, pepper spray, etc, they are no better than the klan.

The question was do "very fine people" March with the Klan like the president said?

That's where this started when you responded to me.

Do 'very fine people' march with Antifa?

I don't blame you for not answering. As a Trump supporter it's an impossible task.

Hey, dumbass...


I didnt' vote for Trump, and if he runs again in 2020, I still won't vote for him.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Anyways, it's not surprise to me that a leftist would twist words and lie about them. That is a tactic that they use often. Who do they think they are fooling? I don't know. Their own base I suppose.

Who are you referring to?

Leftists. I did say that, didn't I?

No. You said a leftist. Who's words and who's lies are you referring to?

 

[ChrisL]

Anyways, it's not surprise to me that a leftist would twist words and lie about them. That is a tactic that they use often. Who do they think they are fooling? I don't know. Their own base I suppose.

Who are you referring to?

Leftists. I did say that, didn't I?

No. You said a leftist. Who's words and who's lies are you referring to?

Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant ALL of you leftists. You all suck. Lol.

 

[ChrisL]

Stop deflecting.

You don't agree that the Klan is repugnant?

one no worse than the other.

Real shame you have a hard on for the klan, but when 'peaceful' protestors show up at a klan protest with bats, clubs, bricks, rocks, mace, pepper spray, etc, they are no better than the klan.

The question was do "very fine people" March with the Klan like the president said?

That's where this started when you responded to me.

Do 'very fine people' march with Antifa?

I don't blame you for not answering. As a Trump supporter it's an impossible task.

Hey, dumbass...


I didnt' vote for Trump, and if he runs again in 2020, I still won't vote for him.

I will unless there is a better candidate offered up.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Stop deflecting.

You don't agree that the Klan is repugnant?

one no worse than the other.

Real shame you have a hard on for the klan, but when 'peaceful' protestors show up at a klan protest with bats, clubs, bricks, rocks, mace, pepper spray, etc, they are no better than the klan.

The question was do "very fine people" March with the Klan like the president said?

That's where this started when you responded to me.

Do 'very fine people' march with Antifa?

I think they do as I agree what they stand for.

Your turn.

You agree with masked people showing up at peaceful protests with clubs, bats, bricks, rocks, pepper spray, mace, chains, etc, and creating violence.

Well, bud...

you arent' worth talking to.

As for me, as a prison guard I dealt with the kkk, Birchers, supremeists, Aryan Nation, and their counterparts in the Black community.

When not hanging with their 'groups', some were fairly decent people.

They could live next door, and you'd never know where their interests lie.

now, go away.

Your promotion of thugs is disturbing

Coward.

 

[ChrisL]

one no worse than the other.

Real shame you have a hard on for the klan, but when 'peaceful' protestors show up at a klan protest with bats, clubs, bricks, rocks, mace, pepper spray, etc, they are no better than the klan.

The question was do "very fine people" March with the Klan like the president said?

That's where this started when you responded to me.

Do 'very fine people' march with Antifa?

I think they do as I agree what they stand for.

Your turn.

You agree with masked people showing up at peaceful protests with clubs, bats, bricks, rocks, pepper spray, mace, chains, etc, and creating violence.

Well, bud...

you arent' worth talking to.

As for me, as a prison guard I dealt with the kkk, Birchers, supremeists, Aryan Nation, and their counterparts in the Black community.

When not hanging with their 'groups', some were fairly decent people.

They could live next door, and you'd never know where their interests lie.

now, go away.

Your promotion of thugs is disturbing

Coward.

Why is he a coward? Again, he makes good points and you make no points.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Anyways, it's not surprise to me that a leftist would twist words and lie about them. That is a tactic that they use often. Who do they think they are fooling? I don't know. Their own base I suppose.

Who are you referring to?

Leftists. I did say that, didn't I?

No. You said a leftist. Who's words and who's lies are you referring to?

Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant ALL of you leftists. You all suck. Lol.

So it was just one of your typical flighty, non-relevant posts. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The question was do "very fine people" March with the Klan like the president said?

That's where this started when you responded to me.

Do 'very fine people' march with Antifa?

I think they do as I agree what they stand for.

Your turn.

You agree with masked people showing up at peaceful protests with clubs, bats, bricks, rocks, pepper spray, mace, chains, etc, and creating violence.

Well, bud...

you arent' worth talking to.

As for me, as a prison guard I dealt with the kkk, Birchers, supremeists, Aryan Nation, and their counterparts in the Black community.

When not hanging with their 'groups', some were fairly decent people.

They could live next door, and you'd never know where their interests lie.

now, go away.

Your promotion of thugs is disturbing

Coward.

Why is he a coward? Again, he makes good points and you make no points.

Maybe you can answer the question.

 

[ChrisL]

Do 'very fine people' march with Antifa?

I think they do as I agree what they stand for.

Your turn.

You agree with masked people showing up at peaceful protests with clubs, bats, bricks, rocks, pepper spray, mace, chains, etc, and creating violence.

Well, bud...

you arent' worth talking to.

As for me, as a prison guard I dealt with the kkk, Birchers, supremeists, Aryan Nation, and their counterparts in the Black community.

When not hanging with their 'groups', some were fairly decent people.

They could live next door, and you'd never know where their interests lie.

now, go away.

Your promotion of thugs is disturbing

Coward.

Why is he a coward? Again, he makes good points and you make no points.

Maybe you can answer the question.

What question is that? Do I agree with what WHO stands for?

 

[ChrisL]

The bottom line is you do not know what ALL of the people who were attending this protest were thinking or feeling. Plenty of them were not wearing "white supremacist garb" or marching with or alongside the white supremacists. I feel that white supremacy is WRONG, but they still have the right to peacefully protest whether I agree with them or not. I do agree with the ones who are NOT white supremacists and think it is wrong for their monuments to their ancestors and their history to be removed in such tactless actions.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Stop deflecting.

You don't agree that the Klan is repugnant?

one no worse than the other.

Real shame you have a hard on for the klan, but when 'peaceful' protestors show up at a klan protest with bats, clubs, bricks, rocks, mace, pepper spray, etc, they are no better than the klan.

The question was do "very fine people" March with the Klan like the president said?

That's where this started when you responded to me.

Do 'very fine people' march with Antifa?

I don't blame you for not answering. As a Trump supporter it's an impossible task.

Trump isn't a white supremacist, and you have no evidence of such, just like you have no evidence that anyone here who is defending free speech and free thoughts without the threat of violent attacks is a white supremacist.

Like I said before, if you wanted to change hearts and minds, you would use tact to do so. Your name calling and violent tactics and vigilantism isn't going to change anybody's hearts and minds and will drive people away. Simple really.

Point to where I said he was, dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The bottom line is you do not know what ALL of the people who were attending this protest were thinking or feeling. Plenty of them were not wearing "white supremacist garb" or marching with or alongside the white supremacists. I feel that white supremacy is WRONG, but they still have the right to peacefully protest whether I agree with them or not. I do agree with the ones who are NOT white supremacists and think it is wrong for their monuments to their ancestors and their history to be removed in such tactless actions.

One does not simply attend and participate in a supremacist cult gathering unless they sympathize with their philosophies. These are morally repugnant groups that have been so for a century. There is no equivocation on that point.

 

[Aletheia4u]

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Here's your misunderstood supremacist victims.
Lovely stuff.

 

[bripat9643]

We understand that you want desperately for them to be the same. It will never happen.
They are the antithesis of the supremacist cults.

they are thugs, who wear masks and attend gatherings to create violence.

Stop 'white washing' them

Stop deflecting.

You don't agree that the Klan is repugnant?

That is irrelevant. The point is that people have a right to peacefully assemble whether or not you agree with them. End of story.

That wasn't the point at all.

What is the point then?

His point is that anyone who disagrees with the left has no First Amendment rights, and anyone who defends their First Amendment rights is no better than them.

 

[TheDude]

"Very fine people" don't March with nazis.

Well dumb dumb, a "reasonable" person might research who organized it. Nice side step however, but if it were me, I'd just admit I was wrong.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

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His thread seems to have been lost, but his message wasn't. He based his decision on the story per the link below. Here are the highlights of the story, followed by reality (bold):

From the story, which of course is a liberal source:

President Trump on Tuesday sought to sanitize the stench of hate surrounding a deadly white nationalist rally in Virginia, calling armed, torch-carrying protesters clad in Nazi gear “very fine people” looking to protect their history. So far, we only see the suggestion by a leftist (story teller) that Trump called these people fine individuals. As you can see, so far, Trump didn't say this, the story teller only says he did. You know, fact Vs fabrication (e.g., propaganda).

Trump, in a return to his statement from Saturday, cast blame for the outbreak of savagery on “both sides” and shrugged off the evil nature that made up the core of the white supremacist groups in the crowd at the “Unite the Right” event. Trump's right, but liberals don't take responsibility, they project.

You had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest,” the President said of the sea of people who chanted Nazi slogans, carried swastikas and wore combat gear. Again Trump is right. Those with a brain see the twist on words following the quote. This is where people like "REASONABLE" cave in, because they're cowardly, uneducated and weak.

“I don’t know if you know, they had a permit,” a defensive Trump added in an attempt to justify the gathering. “The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this. There are two sides to a story.” Again, Trump is right. And incidentally the NAZI didn't have a permit, nor did KKK or white supremacists. For that matter, nor did the left.

Rally organizers were clear about their objectives ahead of the chaotic event — which claimed the life of 32-year-old paralegal Heather Heyer and two state troopers. Wholly shit people, read that line again. They just implied the objectives were to kill a 32 year old paralegal.

Organizer Jason Kessler told The Associated Press last week that it was “about an anti-white climate within the Western world and the need for white people to have advocacy like other groups do.” Kessler is correct.

Attendees included white nationalist Richard Spencer and former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, though Trump said Tuesday that he was unaware at the time of his first statement that Duke had been there. These people were not invited, but it's a free country.

The commander-in-chief’s sympathy for the radical edges of society was a return to his original comments after the death of Heyer, when he said that “many sides” were behind the violence, which drew heavy criticism. No where in the body of the story is this line supported. It's propaganda to get weak people to hate.

“I think the driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and this country. You can call it terrorism. You can call it murder. You can call it whatever you want,” Trump said Tuesday. Again, Trump is right.

He blamed “both sides” for the violence, correctly noting that some of the counterprotesters were armed with clubs and had been looking for trouble, while portraying those who were protesting with torches and shouting anti-Jewish slogans as “people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.” Again Trump is right, and in fact the left was responsible for most of the violence.

“There are no ‘very fine’ white supremacists, Mr. Trump,” Gov. Cuomo said on Twitter. Cumo like the OP think with their butts. They hear what they want to hear, while none of what they "hear" can be supported by reality.




Well there you go people. This is the story that motivated the OP to say Trump says some NAZI are fine people. As you can see, every day is opposite day for "Reasonable". I really hope he sees the error in his ways to change his avatar. As unusual as it may seem, he called his opponents liars throughout this thread. I call it expected. Thanks for the link "Reasonable", you were an easy task.

Trump shows sympathy to hate groups in bizarre tirade

I pointed out to this dumb fuck 3 posts where I posted links. He couldn't find them.
How stupid are you?
Here is it aFOURTH time.

President Trump calls white supremacists ‘very fine people,’ blames Charlottesville on ‘both sides’ in bizarre Trump Tower tirade

Trump shows sympathy to hate groups in bizarre tirade

You thoroughly embarrassed yourself by one... not even knowing what your fuhrer said and two not knowing what a link is.

Oh and three. This call out thread.

I sincerely doubt he was specifcally calling members of the KKK, or other white extremists "very fine people".

But believe what you wish.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I sincerely doubt Trump was referring to anyone of the KKK, or the like.

He was likely referring to regular Trump supporters who likely got caught up in a fucking mess.

Here's the big BIG BIG problem. Trump doesn't have the ability to get his views across so that people actually know what he's saying. You can doubt all you like about whether what he said meant what you want it to mean or not, but you know full well he's doing a piss poor job of communicating with the American people.

 

[Reasonable]

"Very fine people" don't March with nazis.

Well dumb dumb, a "reasonable" person might research who organized it. Nice side step however, but if it were me, I'd just admit I was wrong.

Oh look... this chronic liar finally returned to the scene of the crime. Still can't admit he was an asshole and dead wrong of course.. after all he is a deplorable.