Reagan's (R) 8- year reign of terror in Central America

[Political Junky]

 

[Dot Com]

^ If there were any justice, he would be posthumously impeached!!!

 

[whitehall]

Democrats tried to impeach Reagan for trying to curb left wing communist infiltration into Central America after he defied an amendment hidden in a military appropriations bill written by a notorious left wing democrat senator. The Boland amendment prevented the US from saving Central America from left wing revolution. Now we are faced with millions of diseased illegal aliens flooding our borders from Central America and the powerless Hussein administration tries to blame Reagan and the low information left believes it. You almost gotta laugh.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Dotcom was dumping on reagan, not the country. It's not common knowledge in right wing circles that reagan had the most corrupt administration in close to a hundred years. over a hundred convictions, indictments, or official investigations. For all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over obama being a criminal, ronnie the rat takes the prize.

you're serious...lol
prove all that or gnash your teeth some more

It's common knowledge to those with at least average intelligence. Being below that line and willfully ignorant I'm not surprised by your reaction. Better to mime CrusaderFrank whose simply simple and dishonest, thank his idiot-grams and be done with it.

 

[Wry Catcher]

When in doubt, blame America

When in deep shit, bring up the distant past, cut out all the facts except the ones you need and attack.

and don't forget the moronic cartoon, gotta have those.

I'm surprised you would bring up PoliticalChic, but the point you made is pointed directly at her with her all too oftern far distant attacks on Wilson and FDR. Most run of the mill conservatives chose Jimmy Carter as their target, not knowing or refusing to admit when the word STAGFLATION was invented to describe our economic malaise.

 

[Wry Catcher]

how the rw sheeple were brainwashed to think the Gipper was the best they ever had is astounding

For them only a light rinse was needed.

 

[Sallow]

just wow

of course it BLAME us for all worlds problems

who didn't see this coming...

what, they didn't have a GOVERNMENT?

Really?

Step..if you cause misery?

The Miserable will blame you.

And rightly so.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Every time a Progressive says something mean about Reagan, Uncle Joe smiles

Every time CrusaderFrank posts an idiot-gram (every time he posts) every Joe, John and Jane in America cringe, knowing people in other lands judge Americans by his idiocy.

 

[Sallow]

The more Obama fucks up, the more Reagan threads they post

Obama hasn't fucked up.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Reagan isn't the one inviting Honduran Criminals into the United States.

Man you guys have been really melting down lately. You know you only have till November right? Gotta' destroy the country by then.

Really? You know that those in Central America can't remember the conservatives Messiah granting amnesty to those in our nation illegally? Wow, selective memory, willfully ignorance of dishonesty - what else can that be?

 

[percysunshine]

I am thinking about a vacation to Venezuela. Anyone know of a good tourist resort there?

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[editec]

Dotcom was dumping on reagan, not the country. It's not common knowledge in right wing circles that reagan had the most corrupt administration in close to a hundred years. over a hundred convictions, indictments, or official investigations. For all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over obama being a criminal, ronnie the rat takes the prize.

you're serious...lol
prove all that or gnash your teeth some more

here

1. Lyn Nofziger--White House Press Secretary - Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal. The lobbying would not have been illegal had he not been White House Press Secretary.

2. Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn Nofziger.

3. James Watt, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.

4. John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing...

5. Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North.

6. Elliott Abrams was appointed by President Reagan in 1985 to head the State Department's Latin American Bureau. He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North's covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush...

7. Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan's National Security Advisor, pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush...

8. Alan D. Fiers was the Chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's Central American Task Force. Fiers pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North's activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush...

Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations;
Carl R. Channel - Office of Public Diplomacy , partner in International Business- first person convicted in the Iran/Contra scandal, pleaded guilty of one count of defrauding the United States
Richard R. Miller - Partner with Oliver North in IBC, a Office of Public Diplomacy front group, convicted of conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Frank Gomez
Frank Gomez
13.. Donald Fortier
Clair George was Chief of the CIA's Division of Covert Operations under President Reagan. George was convicted of lying to two congressional committees in 1986. George faced a maximum five year federal prison sentence and a $20,000 fine for each of the two convictions. Jurors cleared George of five other charges including two counts of lying to a federal grand jury. Clair George received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President George Bush...

Rita Lavelle was indicted, tried and convicted of lying to Congress and served three months of a six-month prison sentence.

Philip Winn - Assistant HUD Secretary. Pleaded guilty to one count of scheming to give illegal gratuities.

Thomas Demery - Assistand HUD Secretary - pleaded guilty to steering HUD subsidies to politically connected donors.

Deborah Gore Dean - executive assistant to Samuel Pierce - indicted on thirteen counts, three counts of conspiracy, one count of accepting an illegal gratuity, four counts of perjury, and five counts of concealing articles. She was convicted on twelve accounts. She appealed and prevailed on several accounts but the convictions for conspiracy remained.

Catalina Villaponda - Former US Treasurer
Joseph A. Strauss - Accepting kickbacks from developers
Oliver North - He was indicted on sixteen felony counts and on May 4, 1989, he was convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents (by his secretary, Fawn Hall, on his instructions). He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours community service. His conviction was later overturned.

List of Reagan administration convictions.

 

[Sallow]

Reagan isn't the one inviting Honduran Criminals into the United States.

Man you guys have been really melting down lately. You know you only have till November right? Gotta' destroy the country by then.

That because he was to busy funding contra death squads.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Noriega was a tool of the United States through CIA operations who later bit the hand that fed him. We were in drug War mode back then, 70's and 80's and Noriega turned rabid................

So we invaded and took him into custody. He served time in our Jails and then went to jail in France for being what he was in Panama.............A drug KING PIN..................

The Drug Wars failed because people wanted the chit. Still do, and now about 100,000 have died down there due to Drug Lords and Drug Wars. Who control most of the leaders of the countries.

Real close. Not arguing with you. Just want to tweak what you posted a bit. I was stationed in Panama before, during and after Just Cause. I'm a little familiar with what went down.

Yes, Noriega was our guy. He was also Castro's guy. He was also the Medellin Cartel's guy. He tried to play all three sides against each other. No one is cunning enough to pull that off. He tried to convince all three sides he was their man. The problem, as you point out, he was a tool. If he had true talent, he never would have been picked by the CIA, Cubans or the Medellin to be what they thought would be their tool. They all needed a tool they could manipulate. He was in way over his head. You can imagine how pissed the commies and druggies were when they found out they had been played. He's lucky we took him out.

I could write a lot more about Central America in the 80's and 90's but it seems history has already been rewritten by people smarter than those of us who were there.

Your comment on the failed drug war is sadly right on the mark.

Think of all the lives which could have been saved and all the money spent on the war if and only if people just said no. [Gee, that's almost a CrusaderFrank idiot-gram.] Serously, and of course this is for another thread, the war on drugs has been a failure for decades. If we understood no solution exists to drug and alcohol abuse and addiction we might try a medical model and not rely on punishment.

In short, continue to put purveyors of illegal drugs in jail, and continue to detain users who present as a problem civilly; give them counseling and a card which will allow them to freely obtain and use drugs in a controlled setting, as long as they continue to attend therapy.

 

[percysunshine]

Latin American communism has always been a pinnacle of social achievement.

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[whitehall]

Almost every post by left wingers is designed to shift focus away from the current state of affairs in the Obama regime. Attack corporations and post inane stuff about Reagan while the mid east is burning, the Libyan government the Obama admin. created chases the US out of the embassy, the IRS loses more stuff than Nixon and the US is flooded by diseased illegal aliens while Obama goes off on fund raisers. You almost gotta laugh.

 

[GreenBean]

since when do commies = nuns frank57?

When the nuns are Communists - does that answer your question ?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Latin American communism has always been a pinnacle of social achievement.

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Communism has appeal to the poor and exploited, which is why rational people see regulation of capitalism as a means to save capitalism from the capitalists. Irrational people see regulation of capitalism in any form as Socialism, and see any form of Socialism as the precursor to totalitarian communism.

Hence the recent return to the RED SCARE , it too has appeal to those Lincoln singled out as, some of the people who can be fooled all of the time.

 

[Moonglow]

When in doubt, blame America

When in deep shit, bring up the distant past, cut out all the facts except the ones you need and attack.

and don't forget the moronic cartoon, gotta have those.

Just like another poli chick I know of...does, but Reagan is no better than any other president...

 

[Wry Catcher]

since when do commies = nuns frank57?

When the nuns are Communists - does that answer your question ?

An example of ignorance ^^^ of both Nuns and Communists. GB tries to be cleaver yet seems stuck on nonsense.