Reagan Voted Best Post WWII President

[potter 58]

yep I know and I will never take that away from anyone who anwersed the call , but why did your hero run from the real fight

 

[CrimsonWhite]

yep I know and I will never take that away from anyone who anwersed the call , but why did your hero run from the real fight

What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[potter 58]

Lebanon

 

[Wicked Jester]

yep I know and I will never take that away from anyone who anwersed the call , but why did your hero run from the real fight

There was no fight in Lebanon Potter. No stable government. No malitia to get behind. No UN forces willing to fight. No nothing. It was a peace keeping mission. We tried to keep the peace. They didn't want peace. So, fuck 'em!

 

[rdean]

GW was voted the worst, followed by Obama.

It appears Reaganism is alive and well in America, and coming back in a big way...

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Ronald Reagan and Franklin Roosevelt Best Presidents Since WWII, George W. Bush and Barack Obama Seen as Worst

NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--As the country heads into a long weekend thanks to President’s Day, it is a time to reflect on past presidents – both good and bad. When considering all the presidents since World War II, there are clear choices as to who Americans believe is the best president and who they believe is worst. For best president, one-quarter say it is Ronald Reagan (25%) while just under than say it is Franklin Delano Roosevelt (22%). On the other side, three in ten Americans say George W. Bush is the worst president since World War II (31%) while 15% say it is Barack Obama.

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Full article here:


Ronald Reagan and Franklin Roosevelt Best Presidents Since WWII, George W. Bush and Barack Obama Seen as Worst | Business Wire

This is so funny. The Republicans have been voted the most partisan and destructive political party in the last 50 years. Their track record stands at 100%. There is nothing they have been successful at.
Well, OK, that's not true. they have misled the American people, led the country to two disastrous wars, let Bin Laden go, destroyed the world economy, and convinced the most gullible Americans that "mysticism" is the same as "science".
They have terrified America more than al Qaeda ever has by calling the president everything from Fascist to Socialist to wanting to kill Grandma to even suggesting he might be a pedophile. They have charted unplumbed depths to bring down a sitting president.
Kudos, the Republicans are the worst ever.

So for that, they win the very money they created:

Thanks Republican Party. The US gave us Obama, but YOU GAVE US OBAMA BUCKS!

 

[bodecea]

If the poll is supposed to be since WW2 then why is FDR included as he died before the conclusion of that war?

Shhhh...tells you the intelligence level of those who took the poll.

 

[bodecea]

I found that interesting as well.

Poor Truman -still getting the shaft...

Or maybe you just can't read.

When considering all the presidents since World War II, there are clear choices as to who Americans believe is the best president and who they believe is worst.

Since WWII includes WWII.

Um...no. Since means after.

 

[potter 58]

OMG peacekeeping, you mean like Somalia that Bush Sr sent us into and you guys still blame on clinton, you mean that kind of peace keeping

 

[CrimsonWhite]

GW was voted the worst, followed by Obama.

It appears Reaganism is alive and well in America, and coming back in a big way...

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Ronald Reagan and Franklin Roosevelt Best Presidents Since WWII, George W. Bush and Barack Obama Seen as Worst

NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--As the country heads into a long weekend thanks to President’s Day, it is a time to reflect on past presidents – both good and bad. When considering all the presidents since World War II, there are clear choices as to who Americans believe is the best president and who they believe is worst. For best president, one-quarter say it is Ronald Reagan (25%) while just under than say it is Franklin Delano Roosevelt (22%). On the other side, three in ten Americans say George W. Bush is the worst president since World War II (31%) while 15% say it is Barack Obama.

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Full article here:


Ronald Reagan and Franklin Roosevelt Best Presidents Since WWII, George W. Bush and Barack Obama Seen as Worst | Business Wire

This is so funny. The Republicans have been voted the most partisan and destructive political party in the last 50 years. Their track record stands at 100%. There is nothing they have been successful at.
Well, OK, that's not true. they have misled the American people, led the country to two disastrous wars, let Bin Laden go, destroyed the world economy, and convinced the most gullible Americans that "mysticism" is the same as "science".
They have terrified America more than al Qaeda ever has by calling the president everything from Fascist to Socialist to wanting to kill Grandma to even suggesting he might be a pedophile. They have charted unplumbed depths to bring down a sitting president.
Kudos, the Republicans are the worst ever.

So for that, they win the very money they created:

Thanks Republican Party. The US gave us Obama, but YOU GAVE US OBAMA BUCKS!

 

[Wicked Jester]

OMG peacekeeping, you mean like Somalia that Bush Sr sent us into and you guys still blame on clinton, you mean that kind of peace keeping

Clinton elevated it from peacekeeping to Combat, without solid intel and force numbers.

That's a fact!

 

[potter 58]

to combat, LOL yea if you are getting shot at you shoot back DOH

 

[del]

Liberals forget the reason the Defect was so high was because of the Soviet threat.

For us to beat the USSR we had to compete, and we did and made them go Bankrupt and Communism fell.

While Reagan has its flaws he is still one of the few presidents with integrity and by far one of the greatest Public Speakers.

And full circle, twenty years later, thanks to St. Ronnie and Co, we are now going broke ourselves. There was no real Soviet threat by the 80's anyhow.

You crack me up, you can't even see how partisan you are.

Let's take that last sentence and reconstruct it shall we?

"While Obama had his flaws, he is still one of the few Presidents with integrity and by far one of the greatest Public Speakers."

Now, do you have any real concrete arguments or just emotional ones?

i'm not a big reagan guy, but hindsight is 20/20.

it's like all those "duck and cover" cartoons. they're hilarious now; they weren't so funny when i was 7 and the cuban missile crisis was in full bloom.

at the time in the 80's, i can assure you that as far as anyone knew, the soviet threat was very real.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Liberals forget the reason the Defect was so high was because of the Soviet threat.

For us to beat the USSR we had to compete, and we did and made them go Bankrupt and Communism fell.

While Reagan has its flaws he is still one of the few presidents with integrity and by far one of the greatest Public Speakers.

And full circle, twenty years later, thanks to St. Ronnie and Co, we are now going broke ourselves. There was no real Soviet threat by the 80's anyhow.

You crack me up, you can't even see how partisan you are.

Let's take that last sentence and reconstruct it shall we?

"While Obama had his flaws, he is still one of the few Presidents with integrity and by far one of the greatest Public Speakers."

Now, do you have any real concrete arguments or just emotional ones?

i'm not a big reagan guy, but hindsight is 20/20.

it's like all those "duck and cover" cartoons. they're hilarious now; they weren't so funny when i was 7 and the cuban missile crisis was in full bloom.

at the time in the 80's, i can assure you that as far as anyone knew, the soviet threat was very real.

Remember those air raid sirens?

 

[Xenophon]

Nobody likes Ike.

 

[potter 58]

hey del when we are spending 1/2 our budget on the military and after 6-8 years we are still in Afgan , you know those guys that are pretty much armed with nothing and still in Iraq after daddy Bush destroyed about 90 % of there capacity in 90 , are we really getting any bang for our bucks

 

[del]

hey del when we are spending 1/2 our budget on the military and after 6-8 years we are still in Afgan , you know those guys that are pretty much armed with nothing and still in Iraq after daddy Bush destroyed about 90 % of there capacity in 90 , are we really getting any bang for our bucks

short answer:no


long answer:
"Crises there will continue to be. In meeting them, whether foreign or domestic, great or small, there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties. A huge increase in newer elements of our defenses; development of unrealistic programs to cure every ill in agriculture; a dramatic expansion in basic and applied research -- these and many other possibilities, each possibly promising in itself, may be suggested as the only way to the road we wish to travel.

But each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs, balance between the private and the public economy, balance between the cost and hoped for advantages, balance between the clearly necessary and the comfortably desirable, balance between our essential requirements as a nation and the duties imposed by the nation upon the individual, balance between actions of the moment and the national welfare of the future. Good judgment seeks balance and progress. Lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration. The record of many decades stands as proof that our people and their Government have, in the main, understood these truths and have responded to them well, in the face of threat and stress."
Eisenhower's farewell address - Wikisource


i opposed this war in 2002. however, we went in and now must deal with the consequences. there is, IMO, no commonality between the arms race of the post ww2 period through the collapse of the ussr and our involvement in SW asia.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Liberals forget the reason the Defect was so high was because of the Soviet threat.

For us to beat the USSR we had to compete, and we did and made them go Bankrupt and Communism fell.

While Reagan has its flaws he is still one of the few presidents with integrity and by far one of the greatest Public Speakers.

And full circle, twenty years later, thanks to St. Ronnie and Co, we are now going broke ourselves. There was no real Soviet threat by the 80's anyhow.

You crack me up, you can't even see how partisan you are.

Let's take that last sentence and reconstruct it shall we?

"While Obama had his flaws, he is still one of the few Presidents with integrity and by far one of the greatest Public Speakers."

Now, do you have any real concrete arguments or just emotional ones?

Go back to the 80's.. Ask anybody here, like Del..

Right, blame everything on Bush and Ronnie.

Who's being the Partisan now?

Next thing.. I'm not one of those who despises Obama 100% like some foilks here.. I see the good and bad things from every president, Obama, Clinton, Bush, Ronnie.

So next time when you come with those accusations back them up.

 

[del]

And full circle, twenty years later, thanks to St. Ronnie and Co, we are now going broke ourselves. There was no real Soviet threat by the 80's anyhow.

You crack me up, you can't even see how partisan you are.

Let's take that last sentence and reconstruct it shall we?

"While Obama had his flaws, he is still one of the few Presidents with integrity and by far one of the greatest Public Speakers."

Now, do you have any real concrete arguments or just emotional ones?

i'm not a big reagan guy, but hindsight is 20/20.

it's like all those "duck and cover" cartoons. they're hilarious now; they weren't so funny when i was 7 and the cuban missile crisis was in full bloom.

at the time in the 80's, i can assure you that as far as anyone knew, the soviet threat was very real.

Remember those air raid sirens?

yep, and the trefoils on the bldgs with the shelter capacity on them.

 

[Modbert]

Go back to the 80's.. Ask anybody here, like Del..

Right, blame everything on Bush and Ronnie.

Who's being the Partisan now?

Next thing.. I'm not one of those who despises Obama 100% like some foilks here.. I see the good and bad things from every president, Obama, Clinton, Bush, Ronnie.

So next time when you come with those accusations back them up.

I'm placing the blame where it needs to be placed. Our only spending wasn't against the Soviets. I gave you a whole laundry list of what Reagan did wrong. It's your choice to accept that or not.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Go back to the 80's.. Ask anybody here, like Del..

Right, blame everything on Bush and Ronnie.

Who's being the Partisan now?

Next thing.. I'm not one of those who despises Obama 100% like some foilks here.. I see the good and bad things from every president, Obama, Clinton, Bush, Ronnie.

So next time when you come with those accusations back them up.

I'm placing the blame where it needs to be placed. Our only spending wasn't against the Soviets. I gave you a whole laundry list of what Reagan did wrong. It's your choice to accept that or not.

But I don't see you blaming any Dem President. But if you show me then I apologize respectfully of course.

Reagan did things wrong like any president. Iran-Contra was one of those that make me get pissed off at Ronnie.

But! The Soviet threat was at full swing, we had to do something about it, or i assure you Soviet Russia would've lived longer if not still very well alive.