read this before you listen to teacher protest news

[bodecea]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Vacation? Teachers do not get vacations and it damn sure isn't close to one-third of a year off. This year we are looking at about 6 weeks.

Total health coverage? Bzzzzztt!!!! Wrong answer! Try again!

If you can be retarded and do this job, why aren't you? Are you a college graduate? Can you pass a test on teaching methods? Can you pass subject area tests for every subject you teach?

Bet you can't!

Six weeks? Teachers get 2+ months just in the summer not to mention fall break, Christmas break and spring break. That's 3+ months a year. Then there are teacher no-work days

Nope....that's what the kids get.....and the parents don't parent during that time so at the beginning of the next school year, the teachers almost have to start from scratch....

 

[theDoctorisIn]

i



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I made more than $50 grand waiting tables.

Had pretty good benefits, too.

a teacher would have passed out trying to keep up with you

It's possible.

But it's completely certain that I'm incapable of doing their job.

 

[bodecea]

if the news report doesn't give you salary information when they cry about teacher wages...then it's socialist propaganda.

40k is a lot of money in MooseJaw Iowa.

They ACT like they care about the classroom, put duct tape on books and go out into the street and beg for money.

Socialist alliance so they can work 20 years and get public money for the rest of their life.

I made more than $50 grand waiting tables.

Had pretty good benefits, too.

That's doubtful pretty much anywhere. If you did, you know how rare that would be.

However, as a waiter, you probably worked a lot more hours and a lot more of the year than teachers do. They are failing. We have the most expensive schools in the west with the worst results. We need to start cutting pay, not increasing it, until we start getting our money's worth

Because cutting pay always motivates employees to do a better job.

Who said we should cut pay? . . .

You did. Did you forget already?

I'll give you a hint - it's in the "quotes" in this very post. I've highlighted it for you.

Trumpanzees are simply not very bright.

 

[hunarcy]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Then I invite you to give me your paycheck for a year and I will give you mine. We'll see how long you feel that it sounds great. (Oh, and you can also perform the training and duties my district requires during the "third of the year vacation" you seem to admire so much.

And understand how this works. You ONLY get paid for the days you work. You do not get paid for weekends, holidays or the "third of the year vacation" that you'll have. Oh wait, you do have 5 sick days you'll be paid for...after that, if you are sick and stay home, you won't be paid for that day.

 

[bgrouse]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Then I invite you to give me your paycheck for a year and I will give you mine. We'll see how long you feel that it sounds great. (Oh, and you can also perform the training and duties my district requires during the "third of the year vacation" you seem to admire so much.

And understand how this works. You ONLY get paid for the days you work. You do not get paid for weekends, holidays or the "third of the year vacation" that you'll have. Oh wait, you do have 5 sick days you'll be paid for...after that, you can be sick and stay home, but you won't be paid for that day.

I posted a set of benefits for teachers from a state that was discussed, but nobody discussed it. Feel free to post a link to your handbook and hourly pay or salary so we can take a look.

 

[bodecea]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Then I invite you to give me your paycheck for a year and I will give you mine. We'll see how long you feel that it sounds great. (Oh, and you can also perform the training and duties my district requires during the "third of the year vacation" you seem to admire so much.

And understand how this works. You ONLY get paid for the days you work. You do not get paid for weekends, holidays or the "third of the year vacation" that you'll have. Oh wait, you do have 5 sick days you'll be paid for...after that, you can be sick and stay home, but you won't be paid for that day.

I posted a set of benefits for teachers from a state that was discussed, but nobody discussed it. Feel free to post a link to your handbook and hourly pay or salary so we can take a look.

If it's so wonderful, why aren't you teaching?

 

[BULLDOG]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Thank you for presenting RWNJs opinion of teachers. The rest of us know they are preparing our children to be productive citizens, and would be underpaid at much more than the wages they receive

 

[hunarcy]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Then I invite you to give me your paycheck for a year and I will give you mine. We'll see how long you feel that it sounds great. (Oh, and you can also perform the training and duties my district requires during the "third of the year vacation" you seem to admire so much.

And understand how this works. You ONLY get paid for the days you work. You do not get paid for weekends, holidays or the "third of the year vacation" that you'll have. Oh wait, you do have 5 sick days you'll be paid for...after that, you can be sick and stay home, but you won't be paid for that day.

I posted a set of benefits for teachers from a state that was discussed, but nobody discussed it. Feel free to post a link to your handbook and hourly pay or salary so we can take a look.

http://www.davenportschools.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Teacher-Master-Contract-2017-2020.pdf

 

[bgrouse]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Then I invite you to give me your paycheck for a year and I will give you mine. We'll see how long you feel that it sounds great. (Oh, and you can also perform the training and duties my district requires during the "third of the year vacation" you seem to admire so much.

And understand how this works. You ONLY get paid for the days you work. You do not get paid for weekends, holidays or the "third of the year vacation" that you'll have. Oh wait, you do have 5 sick days you'll be paid for...after that, you can be sick and stay home, but you won't be paid for that day.

I posted a set of benefits for teachers from a state that was discussed, but nobody discussed it. Feel free to post a link to your handbook and hourly pay or salary so we can take a look.

http://www.davenportschools.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Teacher-Master-Contract-2017-2020.pdf

Some things I like:

1. Religious leave. I have never seen this before in the private sector jobs I've applied for/had/read about.
2. 185 days seems quite low for work days.
3. Very few jobs I've seen get all those holidays off.

So what don't you like?

 

[francoHFW]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Vacation? Teachers do not get vacations and it damn sure isn't close to one-third of a year off. This year we are looking at about 6 weeks.

Total health coverage? Bzzzzztt!!!! Wrong answer! Try again!

If you can be retarded and do this job, why aren't you? Are you a college graduate? Can you pass a test on teaching methods? Can you pass subject area tests for every subject you teach?

Bet you can't!

Eh? You haven't heard of summer vacation?

6 weeks is more than I've seen in most private sector jobs. 3 weeks is what I've been seeing. That and teachers get lots more holidays off than many private sector jobs.

And need them!

They give it to them precisely because teachers are not needed. In many inner cities, it's just daycare for the retarded inner city minority dwellers. Teaching jobs are little more than make-work to make it seem like the city isn't completely filled with worthless leeches and keep the minorities off the streets so they don't rape, rob, and murder as much. Since they produce next to nothing, there's little benefit to having teachers needlessly occupy space on the roads and sidewalk.

Typical mindless hater dupe.... Wonder why the country is going to hell...

 

[francoHFW]

if the news report doesn't give you salary information when they cry about teacher wages...then it's socialist propaganda.

40k is a lot of money in MooseJaw Iowa.

They ACT like they care about the classroom, put duct tape on books and go out into the street and beg for money.

Socialist alliance so they can work 20 years and get public money for the rest of their life.

I made more than $50 grand waiting tables.

Had pretty good benefits, too.

That's doubtful pretty much anywhere. If you did, you know how rare that would be.

However, as a waiter, you probably worked a lot more hours and a lot more of the year than teachers do. They are failing. We have the most expensive schools in the west with the worst results. We need to start cutting pay, not increasing it, until we start getting our money's worth

Because cutting pay always motivates employees to do a better job.

Who said we should cut pay? You and the doctor are both debating the voices in your head.

I said Houston we have a problem. We're getting the worst results for the most money of our peers. We need to figure out what's going on. The two of you are stuck on teacher pay. But we sure as shit shouldn't be raising pay until we figure out what's going wrong

You said "we should start cutting pay".

I will give you a clue, our country is falling apart and stressing out under your s*** head GOP Pander to the rich screw everybody else policies and tax rates... All they have is b*******and Hate propaganda...

 

[kaz]

if the news report doesn't give you salary information when they cry about teacher wages...then it's socialist propaganda.

40k is a lot of money in MooseJaw Iowa.

They ACT like they care about the classroom, put duct tape on books and go out into the street and beg for money.

Socialist alliance so they can work 20 years and get public money for the rest of their life.

I made more than $50 grand waiting tables.

Had pretty good benefits, too.

That's doubtful pretty much anywhere. If you did, you know how rare that would be.

However, as a waiter, you probably worked a lot more hours and a lot more of the year than teachers do. They are failing. We have the most expensive schools in the west with the worst results. We need to start cutting pay, not increasing it, until we start getting our money's worth

Because cutting pay always motivates employees to do a better job.

Who said we should cut pay? . . .

You did. Did you forget already?

I'll give you a hint - it's in the "quotes" in this very post. I've highlighted it for you.

OK, I get it now.

When I said cut pay, I meant pay rates. You made that personal in terms of cutting the pay of individuals. That's why when you said cutting someone's pay doesn't motivate them I didn't recognize it.

I wasn't specific when I said that, I'm not complaining about what you said. Only explaining why when you went to cutting the pay of people who already work there I didn't recognize the connection to what I said.

We need to assess the people working there, but I wouldn't cut the pay of poor performers, I would fire them

 

[kaz]

if the news report doesn't give you salary information when they cry about teacher wages...then it's socialist propaganda.

40k is a lot of money in MooseJaw Iowa.

They ACT like they care about the classroom, put duct tape on books and go out into the street and beg for money.

Socialist alliance so they can work 20 years and get public money for the rest of their life.

I made more than $50 grand waiting tables.

Had pretty good benefits, too.

That's doubtful pretty much anywhere. If you did, you know how rare that would be.

However, as a waiter, you probably worked a lot more hours and a lot more of the year than teachers do. They are failing. We have the most expensive schools in the west with the worst results. We need to start cutting pay, not increasing it, until we start getting our money's worth

Because cutting pay always motivates employees to do a better job.

Who said we should cut pay? You and the doctor are both debating the voices in your head.

I said Houston we have a problem. We're getting the worst results for the most money of our peers. We need to figure out what's going on. The two of you are stuck on teacher pay. But we sure as shit shouldn't be raising pay until we figure out what's going wrong

You said "we should start cutting pay".

I meant pay rates, not the rates of people who already work there now. I would fire the bad ones, not cut their pay

 

[rightwinger]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

That is 40K after 20 years

OK does not value education

that's a fictional wage

Most do not make $40k

 

[kaz]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Vacation? Teachers do not get vacations and it damn sure isn't close to one-third of a year off. This year we are looking at about 6 weeks.

Total health coverage? Bzzzzztt!!!! Wrong answer! Try again!

If you can be retarded and do this job, why aren't you? Are you a college graduate? Can you pass a test on teaching methods? Can you pass subject area tests for every subject you teach?

Bet you can't!

Six weeks? Teachers get 2+ months just in the summer not to mention fall break, Christmas break and spring break. That's 3+ months a year. Then there are teacher no-work days

Nope....that's what the kids get.....and the parents don't parent during that time so at the beginning of the next school year, the teachers almost have to start from scratch....

You're such a stupid bigot. Go back to making up your military experience

 

[rightwinger]

if the news report doesn't give you salary information when they cry about teacher wages...then it's socialist propaganda.

40k is a lot of money in MooseJaw Iowa.

They ACT like they care about the classroom, put duct tape on books and go out into the street and beg for money.

Socialist alliance so they can work 20 years and get public money for the rest of their life.

I made more than $50 grand waiting tables.

Had pretty good benefits, too.

That's doubtful pretty much anywhere. If you did, you know how rare that would be.

However, as a waiter, you probably worked a lot more hours and a lot more of the year than teachers do. They are failing. We have the most expensive schools in the west with the worst results. We need to start cutting pay, not increasing it, until we start getting our money's worth

How many years did that waiter study to qualify for his job

 

[kaz]

I made more than $50 grand waiting tables.

Had pretty good benefits, too.

That's doubtful pretty much anywhere. If you did, you know how rare that would be.

However, as a waiter, you probably worked a lot more hours and a lot more of the year than teachers do. They are failing. We have the most expensive schools in the west with the worst results. We need to start cutting pay, not increasing it, until we start getting our money's worth

Because cutting pay always motivates employees to do a better job.

Who said we should cut pay? . . .

You did. Did you forget already?

I'll give you a hint - it's in the "quotes" in this very post. I've highlighted it for you.

Trumpanzees are simply not very bright.

Well why did you vote for Trump then? Here you are a Castro dyke and you go around voting for an orange clown. WTF?

 

[hunarcy]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Then I invite you to give me your paycheck for a year and I will give you mine. We'll see how long you feel that it sounds great. (Oh, and you can also perform the training and duties my district requires during the "third of the year vacation" you seem to admire so much.

And understand how this works. You ONLY get paid for the days you work. You do not get paid for weekends, holidays or the "third of the year vacation" that you'll have. Oh wait, you do have 5 sick days you'll be paid for...after that, you can be sick and stay home, but you won't be paid for that day.

I posted a set of benefits for teachers from a state that was discussed, but nobody discussed it. Feel free to post a link to your handbook and hourly pay or salary so we can take a look.

http://www.davenportschools.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Teacher-Master-Contract-2017-2020.pdf

Some things I like:

1. Religious leave. I have never seen this before in the private sector jobs I've applied for/had/read about.
2. 185 days seems quite low for work days.
3. Very few jobs I've seen get all those holidays off.

So what don't you like?

Actually, I like teaching very much. But, to answer your question, I don't like that I don't get paid holidays as is customary in the private sector. I don't like that I don't get paid vacation as is customary in the private sector. I don't like that buffoons think they are experts on education because they made it through school.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

40k a year isn't a lot of money anywhere. Especially not for babysitting hundreds of children each day.

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Then I invite you to give me your paycheck for a year and I will give you mine. We'll see how long you feel that it sounds great. (Oh, and you can also perform the training and duties my district requires during the "third of the year vacation" you seem to admire so much.

And understand how this works. You ONLY get paid for the days you work. You do not get paid for weekends, holidays or the "third of the year vacation" that you'll have. Oh wait, you do have 5 sick days you'll be paid for...after that, you can be sick and stay home, but you won't be paid for that day.

I posted a set of benefits for teachers from a state that was discussed, but nobody discussed it. Feel free to post a link to your handbook and hourly pay or salary so we can take a look.

That is because most intelligent people have you on "ignore".

 

[Norman]

40K, total health coverage, a third of the year is vacation, and it's a job where results literally do not matter (read: there is no way to do the job wrong). In other words, you can be utterly retarded and have this job.

40K sounds GREAT!

Then I invite you to give me your paycheck for a year and I will give you mine. We'll see how long you feel that it sounds great. (Oh, and you can also perform the training and duties my district requires during the "third of the year vacation" you seem to admire so much.

And understand how this works. You ONLY get paid for the days you work. You do not get paid for weekends, holidays or the "third of the year vacation" that you'll have. Oh wait, you do have 5 sick days you'll be paid for...after that, you can be sick and stay home, but you won't be paid for that day.

I posted a set of benefits for teachers from a state that was discussed, but nobody discussed it. Feel free to post a link to your handbook and hourly pay or salary so we can take a look.

http://www.davenportschools.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Teacher-Master-Contract-2017-2020.pdf

Some things I like:

1. Religious leave. I have never seen this before in the private sector jobs I've applied for/had/read about.
2. 185 days seems quite low for work days.
3. Very few jobs I've seen get all those holidays off.

So what don't you like?

Actually, I like teaching very much. But, to answer your question, I don't like that I don't get paid holidays as is customary in the private sector. I don't like that I don't get paid vacation as is customary in the private sector. I don't like that buffoons think they are experts on education because they made it through school.

You know what else isn't customary in the private sector? 4 months vacation every year. Not to mention, you have to actually be useful on the job.