Do you hear what is important instead of people writing words with defects to your way of thinking? You guys have books, binders and others printed up answers to all of the problems and somehow after spending unlimited trillions those problems still exist.
CNN reporter denies that America is a republic
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SweetSue92
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A straight democracy uses popular voting and so does a representative republic--but that's where the similarities end. Your bad comparison is more like, "since my coffee creamer and my sour cream both use dairy, they're the same." Okay then, put a fat dollop of sour cream in your coffee and drink on up.
And then insult people who say otherwise. Aren't you tired of this garbage?
ThunderKiss1965
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No it's not it's profoundly important. The Metro New York population alone is 5 times that of my home State of Alabama. The Democracy the left wants would make my voice and millions of others worthless. Tyranny of the majority. The Founding Fathers realized this and created our Constitutional Republic.
/——/ It’s beyond your limited mental ability to understand.
It is a democracy. Geez. No wonder Trump lies poorly educated.
Did you know ice cream is a dessert? US is a democracy. For now.
Who the **** said straight democracy? That isn’t even a thing. Everyone knows we don’t impractacally vote on every issue. We are a democracy.
Who the **** said straight democracy? That isn’t even a thing. Everyone knows we don’t impractacally vote on every issue. We are a democracy.
frigidweirdo
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CNN Reporter Claims Trump Supporters Calling America A Republic Is 'An Attack On Democracy'
A CNN reporter characterized supporters of former President Donald Trump describing the United States of America as a republic as “an attack on democracy.”dailycaller.com
by HAROLD HUTCHISON
A CNN reporter characterized supporters of former President Donald Trump describing the United States of America as a republic as “an attack on democracy” during a segment that aired Sunday.
Multiple Trump supporters told CNN reporter Donie O’Sullivan that the U.S. was not a “democracy” in man-on-the-street interviews during the segment, instead describing it as a republic. O’Sullivan attempted to disprove their description in an interview with historian Anne Applebaum.
“America is a democracy. It was founded as a democracy,” Applebaum claimed after O’Sullivan asked her if the U.S. was a democracy.
“I’ve heard a lot of conspiracy theories. I hear a lot of things out on the road, but to hear Americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots, say that America is not a democracy, that stopped me in my tracks,” O’Sullivan told Applebaum.
Applebaum blamed Trump for the denials that the United States is a democracy.
“You are hearing people say America is not a democracy because there are people around Trump who want them to be saying that, who’ve been planting that narrative,” Applebaum claimed.
Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution guarantees states a “republican” form of government, and historical records and documents show Founders like John Adams and Alexander Hamilton expressing skepticism about democracy.
“Honestly, the word ‘democracy’ and the word ‘republic’ have often been used interchangeably,” Applebaum claimed. “There isn’t a meaningful difference between them.”
“If they can convince people that we don’t have a democracy, then it’s okay that Trump is attacking democracy, because it doesn’t really matter,” Applebaum added.
James Madison outlined differences between pure democracies and a republic in The Federalist Number 10.
“There is, of course, a legitimate debate discussion to be had on what form of democracy we have here in the United States, direct democracy, representative democracy, in fact, constitutional republic, which you heard people mentioned in that piece, that is a form of democracy. But look, this is not actually a debate about government, about democracy, it’s an attack on democracy,” O’Sullivan told CNN host Omar Jimenez. “People have heard the warnings that Trump is a danger to democracy, and therefore you have people trying to convince others that, well, the United States isn’t a democracy in the first place, and therefore Trump can’t be a threat.”
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The Radical Left's use of the word "democracy" is misleading the dumb Democrat cultists.
What the Radical Left is calling a "democracy" is a one-party dictatorship.
The Democrats are attacking the 1st and 2nd amendments.
They want to abolish the Electoral College.
They want to stack the Supreme Court.
They want to allow non-citizens to erase the votes of American citizens.
They are breaking down the separation of powers.
America is a republic.
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A Republic can be a democracy, and it can not be a democracy. The US is a Republic that is barely a democracy and barely a Republic either.
The powers controlling the US are not what makes it a Republic or a democracy
That’s just too cynical. If people elect toadies it’s still a democracy. Just with poor stewardship.
frigidweirdo
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Depends what you mean by "democracy".
In Hong Kong they can vote. Beijing says that's "democracy". Beijing picks three people who they like who can run to be leaders, and the people then vote for electors who then vote for one of the three leaders.
People can vote. Is it "democracy"?
In the US people don't have much choice either. For President the system is actually very similar to Hong Kong's because you vote for an elector, then the elector votes for one of two people who are in the main parties.
So, really you get so little democracy it might as well not be called a democracy.
The House is the most democratic, where you get some seats with more than 1 million people, and other seats with half a million people per seat.
The Senate is worse, 250,000 per seat to 19.5 million per seat.
And it's FPTP, which is barely democratic, as you have one representative for all those people and if you voted for someone else, tough ******* luck.
frigidweirdo
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Do "people" elect them though?
In Germany in 2017 the CDU/CSU gained 37% of the votes and 77% of the seats. Who elected the CDU? It wasn't the people. It was the SYSTEM.
That system was FPTP.
But luckily for the Germans they have PR and 32% of people voted for them with PR and they got about 34% of the seats. There, THE PEOPLE elected the government. With FPTP it is NOT THE PEOPLE.
In the UK in 2019 the Labour Party and Lib Dems together got less than 1000 votes less than the Tories, but the Tories got what Labour and the Lib Dems got PLUS an extra 25% of the seats.
Did the people elect the Tories? Nope, the system did.
How can it be democracy if THE SYSTEM elects the government and not the people?
SweetSue92
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We have an electoral college and the 10th amendment, so no.
SweetSue92
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Go argue with the Constitution itself. We are not a "democracy".
Is the U.S. a Democracy or a Republic? Find Out! - U.S. Constitution.net
Defining a Constitutional Republic The United States operates as a constitutional republic, a form of government that involves representatives elected by the people, who execute their duties under the constraints of a prevailing constitution that specifies the powers and limits of government...
www.usconstitution.net
That is a democracy. I think you all have a learning disorder.Go argue with the Constitution itself. We are not a "democracy".
Is the U.S. a Democracy or a Republic? Find Out! - U.S. Constitution.net
Defining a Constitutional Republic The United States operates as a constitutional republic, a form of government that involves representatives elected by the people, who execute their duties under the constraints of a prevailing constitution that specifies the powers and limits of government...
SweetSue92
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It begins as a democracy, yes, in that we vote on elected representatives. But it doesn't end there, as you know. Hence the electoral college.
I know liberals hate being wrong so you can go argue with the wall. I'm right.
/——/ You really need to dumb it down for citygator to grasp. Try this: Democracy bad, Republic good.
Then say you heard it on CNN.
there4eyeM
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People voting and participating in government is the basic element of the word "democracy" (demos meaning people). That they vote for representatives to take care of details of decisions makes the democratic process republican. Of course, this post is intended for the possible reader who is still confused by all the pap that has passed above. That means virtually no one. So, it is just for amusement to see how the post can be turned by those who are adamant to confuse the situation and the political atmosphere of the nation ever more.
Billiejeens
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You are not talking with the best and the brightest, though.
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