re: Syria

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W should have taken it off the map. It's nothing but a bunch of dirty, demonic Muslimes planning everyone's demise. I say we just let them kill each other. The less Muslimes in the world the better!
 
A pre-announced bombing will do nothing but kill more innocent people.

It is gratuitous and unnecessary.

I don't need to listen to a plastic faced liar like Kerry to know that.
 
Settle down, kids. You're arguing without all of the facts, which is like golfing with no driver. It's like singing at Woodstock with no microphone.

I've said the same about Iraq as I'll say about Syria, Lybia, etc.

Which is: you don't have all of the facts, you don't have the same information on your table as our top military advisors and so you're damn sure arguing from a position of ignorance, no matter which side you're arguing.

How many adults can actually admit this simple truth to themselves and let their ego subside? Not many.



Not many.

The fact that they are lying to us about the facts is the first thing that should be protested. When then get caught in a bald face lie such as " this is because we care about children" maybe our government could treat us like adults and move on to some real reasons.
 
Settle down, kids. You're arguing without all of the facts, which is like golfing with no driver. It's like singing at Woodstock with no microphone.

I've said the same about Iraq as I'll say about Syria, Lybia, etc.

Which is: you don't have all of the facts, you don't have the same information on your table as our top military advisors and so you're damn sure arguing from a position of ignorance, no matter which side you're arguing.

How many adults can actually admit this simple truth to themselves and let their ego subside? Not many.


Not many.

The fact that information is being withheld from the American people is reason enough to vote against intervention.

Until full disclosure is made, it is silly for the American people to risk the lives of its young people in the military, no?

Or do you think we should blindly follow our elected leaders and their military advisors based on their refusal to inform the American people?
 
We need to stay the hell out of there and let them kill each other/themselves off. The world will be a MUCH better place with less Muslimes/terrorists.
 
It is funny when you think about the ways to get the two parties involved.

With Democrats, make it humanitarian. Because they care about other people.

With Republicans, make it about making money. Either wave a little oil or "no-bid" contracts in front of their greedy faces.

Funny how there didn't seem to be all this "concern" about the Christians in Iraq. I don't get that at all.
 
It is funny when you think about the ways to get the two parties involved.

With Democrats, make it humanitarian. Because they care about other people.

With Republicans, make it about making money. Either wave a little oil or "no-bid" contracts in front of their greedy faces.

Funny how there didn't seem to be all this "concern" about the Christians in Iraq. I don't get that at all.

So bombing people is now humanitarian?
 
It is funny when you think about the ways to get the two parties involved.

With Democrats, make it humanitarian. Because they care about other people.

With Republicans, make it about making money. Either wave a little oil or "no-bid" contracts in front of their greedy faces.

Funny how there didn't seem to be all this "concern" about the Christians in Iraq. I don't get that at all.

So bombing people is now humanitarian?

Of course, the real answer is that bombing people in order to save a much greater number of people, can be considered humanitarian.

Except we're not bombing for humanitarian reason. That's a bald face lie.
 
It is funny when you think about the ways to get the two parties involved.

With Democrats, make it humanitarian. Because they care about other people.

With Republicans, make it about making money. Either wave a little oil or "no-bid" contracts in front of their greedy faces.

Funny how there didn't seem to be all this "concern" about the Christians in Iraq. I don't get that at all.

So bombing people is now humanitarian?

Of course, the real answer is that bombing people in order to save a much greater number of people, can be considered humanitarian.

It can't.

There is nothing humanitarian about dropping bombs and inevitably killing innocent people.
 
Settle down, kids. You're arguing without all of the facts, which is like golfing with no driver. It's like singing at Woodstock with no microphone.

I've said the same about Iraq as I'll say about Syria, Lybia, etc.

Which is: you don't have all of the facts, you don't have the same information on your table as our top military advisors and so you're damn sure arguing from a position of ignorance, no matter which side you're arguing.

How many adults can actually admit this simple truth to themselves and let their ego subside? Not many.


Not many.

The fact that information is being withheld from the American people is reason enough to vote against intervention.

Until full disclosure is made, it is silly for the American people to risk the lives of its young people in the military, no?

Or do you think we should blindly follow our elected leaders and their military advisors based on their refusal to inform the American people?

It's been like that for almost every American war, dude. It's not somehow different now, depending on who's in office.

We developed a big cabal of top secret intelligence that really guides these decisions, and for the citizens to get all red faced arguing with each other if a military action is right or wrong...........without having all of the facts............is literally arguing just because of a partisan o.c.d. to want to argue.

And it's amazing that the debate rages amongst millions.

Instead of, you know, outwardly demanding all of the facts? Noo00oo0o, we'd all rather "chime in" and debate the incomplete picture in our heads.

Our Country is great.
Its partisans are losers, and a poison.

wtf are you talking about ? We have plenty facts that our government won't even respond to because they have been caught red handed in lies.
 
Of course, the real answer is that bombing people in order to save a much greater number of people, can be considered humanitarian.

Except we're not bombing for humanitarian reason. That's a bald face lie.

According to all of the declassified reports that you have, I know I know :cuckoo:

There's nothing classified about the fact that we were supporting regime change long before any gas attacks.
 
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It's been like that for almost every American war, dude. It's not somehow different now, depending on who's in office.

We developed a big cabal of top secret intelligence that really guides these decisions, and for the citizens to get all red faced arguing with each other if a military action is right or wrong...........without having all of the facts............is literally arguing just because of a partisan o.c.d. to want to argue.

And it's amazing that the debate rages amongst millions.

Instead of, you know, outwardly demanding all of the facts? Noo00oo0o, we'd all rather "chime in" and debate the incomplete picture in our heads.

Our Country is great.
Its partisans are losers, and a poison.

wtf are you talking about ? We have plenty facts that our government won't even respond to because they have been caught red handed in lies.

Riiiiight, but do you have all of the facts?

No.

Why were there classified hearings?

I'm sure you're privy to all of the classified material that was gone over, in order to make a well informed opinion....,.?

Like I said, :cuckoo:

You guys are suckers

No we're discovering daily that the government doesn't give a shit what people and that they will ignore us to accomplish the goals that they want to achieve. The country is no longer ours.
 
Settle down, kids. You're arguing without all of the facts, which is like golfing with no driver. It's like singing at Woodstock with no microphone.

I've said the same about Iraq as I'll say about Syria, Lybia, etc.

Which is: you don't have all of the facts, you don't have the same information on your table as our top military advisors and so you're damn sure arguing from a position of ignorance, no matter which side you're arguing.

How many adults can actually admit this simple truth to themselves and let their ego subside? Not many.


Not many.

The fact that information is being withheld from the American people is reason enough to vote against intervention.

Until full disclosure is made, it is silly for the American people to risk the lives of its young people in the military, no?

Or do you think we should blindly follow our elected leaders and their military advisors based on their refusal to inform the American people?

It's been like that for almost every American war, dude. It's not somehow different now, depending on who's in office.

We developed a big cabal of top secret intelligence that really guides these decisions, and for the citizens to get all red faced arguing with each other if a military action is right or wrong...........without having all of the facts............is literally arguing just because of a partisan o.c.d. to want to argue.

And it's amazing that the debate rages amongst millions.

Instead of, you know, outwardly demanding all of the facts? Noo00oo0o, we'd all rather "chime in" and debate the incomplete picture in our heads.

Our Country is great.
Its partisans are losers, and a poison.


We weren't attacked. We have no reason to go to war.

We do know that, don't we?

Seems reason enough to me.

Maybe we should be nice and silent until the powers that be deign to inform us?

I don't think so.
 

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