Raising to $15 minimum wage means more Federal TAX revenue!!!

[kaz]

Should we lower the minimum wage to 50 cents an hour and solve all these problems? Is that your solution?

Or better yet, just eliminate it. Low skilled workers need jobs to start out. That you believe denying them employment is in their interest is inane, and cruel. Unemployment for inner city teenagers is 50%. Businesses there can't pay that. They need jobs, and you deny it to them. How do you sleep at night?

 

[Defiant1]

The average age of Fast food workers is 30 years old. This aint the days of the Malt Shops

Anyone 30 years of age or older who has been working in a fast food restaurant for more then 60 days and is still earning min. wage is lucky to still have a job.

 

[kaz]

1. virtually no one is paid minimum wage

1. But people are paid min wage because the min wage exists. Do you think they pay the very least required by law because they are nice or because they'll violate law if they didn't

Most people earn minimum wage when they are starting out and have no skills. All the minimum wage really does for them is make the leash shorter for them to get up to speed and prove themselves. The other minimum wage workers are those who are unreliable and low performers. The minimum wage makes sure they remain unemployed and vote for Democrats.

 

[Kosh]

The far left just does not have a clue other than spouting far left talking points.

 

[MHunterB]

I'm sure that my son, who had to have a college degree to apply for his job, would be delighted to wake up tomorrow being paid 'minimum wage' . He's far from alone: many new teachers don't earn any more than $15/hour in a lot of states.

Having a 'national' minimum wage is ridiculous: that $15/hour doesn't buy you the same thing in NYC as it would in Mississippi.

Let's also note that in all the DECADES of mandating and raising a 'minimum wage' - it hasn't made it a 'living' wage yet (unless one's in a boarding house or has room-mates). So just maybe we should be looking at other ways to make housing more affordable?

The underlying problem is that with each new innovation, there are LESS opportunities for those with no particular skill set to hold a job - let alone earn enough to live entirely on their own. And with each new innovation, whole sets of formerly-skilled jobs (in manufacturing, mostly) have become obsolete.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm sure that my son, who had to have a college degree to apply for his job, would be delighted to wake up tomorrow being paid 'minimum wage' . He's far from alone: many new teachers don't earn any more than $15/hour in a lot of states.

Having a 'national' minimum wage is ridiculous: that $15/hour doesn't buy you the same thing in NYC as it would in Mississippi.

Let's also note that in all the DECADES of mandating and raising a 'minimum wage' - it hasn't made it a 'living' wage yet (unless one's in a boarding house or has room-mates). So just maybe we should be looking at other ways to make housing more affordable?

The underlying problem is that with each new innovation, there are LESS opportunities for those with no particular skill set to hold a job - let alone earn enough to live entirely on their own. And with each new innovation, whole sets of formerly-skilled jobs (in manufacturing, mostly) have become obsolete.

The minimum wage, adjusted for inflation, has been falling for 45 years.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Should we lower the minimum wage to 50 cents an hour and solve all these problems? Is that your solution?

Or better yet, just eliminate it. Low skilled workers need jobs to start out. That you believe denying them employment is in their interest is inane, and cruel. Unemployment for inner city teenagers is 50%. Businesses there can't pay that. They need jobs, and you deny it to them. How do you sleep at night?

Blacks pretty much had full employment in America until the 1860's.

Great point, moron.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Should we lower the minimum wage to 50 cents an hour and solve all these problems? Is that your solution?

Of course not. Abolish it. Problem solved.

And the 8 hour day? And child labor laws? And workplace safety rules?

Do you realize that when the working poor go down, you'll go down with them. Do you think the Rich give a shit about you just because you kiss their asses?

 

[Kosh]

Should we lower the minimum wage to 50 cents an hour and solve all these problems? Is that your solution?

Or better yet, just eliminate it. Low skilled workers need jobs to start out. That you believe denying them employment is in their interest is inane, and cruel. Unemployment for inner city teenagers is 50%. Businesses there can't pay that. They need jobs, and you deny it to them. How do you sleep at night?

Blacks pretty much had full employment in America until the 1860's.

Great point, moron.

More proof that the far left does not have a clue and also prove they are the true racists.

 

[Kosh]

Should we lower the minimum wage to 50 cents an hour and solve all these problems? Is that your solution?

Of course not. Abolish it. Problem solved.

And the 8 hour day? And child labor laws? And workplace safety rules?

Do you realize that when the working poor go down, you'll go down with them. Do you think the Rich give a shit about you just because you kiss their asses?

Even more far left talking points.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Should we lower the minimum wage to 50 cents an hour and solve all these problems? Is that your solution?

Of course not. Abolish it. Problem solved.

I love it when I make a joke based on some entirely retarded and the 'nuts come in and endorse it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Of course not. Abolish it. Problem solved.

And the 8 hour day? And child labor laws? And workplace safety rules?

Do you realize that when the working poor go down, you'll go down with them. Do you think the Rich give a shit about you just because you kiss their asses?

Even more far left talking points.

Calling something a talking point is your talking point. You need to wake up, grow up, or shut up.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Of course not. Abolish it. Problem solved.

And the 8 hour day? And child labor laws? And workplace safety rules?

Do you realize that when the working poor go down, you'll go down with them. Do you think the Rich give a shit about you just because you kiss their asses?

Even more far left talking points.

It never gets old or any less enjoyable when another rightwinger comes out FOR child labor.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. virtually no one is paid minimum wage

1. But people are paid min wage because the min wage exists. Do you think they pay the very least required by law because they are nice or because they'll violate law if they didn't

Most people earn minimum wage when they are starting out and have no skills. All the minimum wage really does for them is make the leash shorter for them to get up to speed and prove themselves. The other minimum wage workers are those who are unreliable and low performers. The minimum wage makes sure they remain unemployed and vote for Democrats.

You're willing to eat food prepared by someone who is stupid and unreliable?

 

[healthmyths]

Eliminate the Min wage for which reason:

1. Race to the bottom

or

2. Companies don't take advantage of people anymore

1. virtually no one is paid minimum wage
2. supply and demand set the price of labor, MW sets an artifical floor and hurts job growth.

FACTS...FACTS...
In 2011, 73.9 million American workers age 16 and over were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.1 percent of all wage and salary workers.
Among those paid by the hour,
1.7 million earned exactly the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.
About 2.2 million had wages below the minimum.
Together, these 3.8 million workers with wages at or below the Federal minimum made up 5.2 percent of all hourly-paid workers.
Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2011

5.2 million of which:



Of the above chart from the US Census Bureau,
of the 3.8 million nearly 2 million are under 24 years old.
How many of those 24 year olds probably still live at home or have a 2nd job?

Agan.. NOTE 2 million under 24 years old!!!

 

[depotoo]

I'm sure that my son, who had to have a college degree to apply for his job, would be delighted to wake up tomorrow being paid 'minimum wage' . He's far from alone: many new teachers don't earn any more than $15/hour in a lot of states.

Having a 'national' minimum wage is ridiculous: that $15/hour doesn't buy you the same thing in NYC as it would in Mississippi.

Let's also note that in all the DECADES of mandating and raising a 'minimum wage' - it hasn't made it a 'living' wage yet (unless one's in a boarding house or has room-mates). So just maybe we should be looking at other ways to make housing more affordable?

The underlying problem is that with each new innovation, there are LESS opportunities for those with no particular skill set to hold a job - let alone earn enough to live entirely on their own. And with each new innovation, whole sets of formerly-skilled jobs (in manufacturing, mostly) have become obsolete.

The minimum wage, adjusted for inflation, has been falling for 45 years.

Bull and you know it. And that's why you never responded to my post of your utterly ridiculous claims before.

 

[kaz]

Should we lower the minimum wage to 50 cents an hour and solve all these problems? Is that your solution?

Or better yet, just eliminate it. Low skilled workers need jobs to start out. That you believe denying them employment is in their interest is inane, and cruel. Unemployment for inner city teenagers is 50%. Businesses there can't pay that. They need jobs, and you deny it to them. How do you sleep at night?

Blacks pretty much had full employment in America until the 1860's.

Great point, moron.

So did you intend that as a strawman, red herring or ad homenim fallacy?

 

[kaz]

1. But people are paid min wage because the min wage exists. Do you think they pay the very least required by law because they are nice or because they'll violate law if they didn't

Most people earn minimum wage when they are starting out and have no skills. All the minimum wage really does for them is make the leash shorter for them to get up to speed and prove themselves. The other minimum wage workers are those who are unreliable and low performers. The minimum wage makes sure they remain unemployed and vote for Democrats.

You're willing to eat food prepared by someone who is stupid and unreliable?

I don't know, where do you work?

I thought we were talking about the people taking the orders though. I doubt many cooks make minimum wage even in a fast food restaurant. None of the cooks in my restaurant ever earned minimum wage.

 

[kiwiman127]

I think some our expert economist here at USMB should read this article before making absolutely incorrect statements

The Best Indicator of U.S. Health is Wage Growth (or Lack Thereof
The Best Indicator of U.S. Health is Wage Growth (or Lack Thereof) - MoneyBeat - WSJ
or
More jobs, yes, but wage growth holds up recovery
More jobs, yes, but wage growth holds up recovery - NBC News.com
or
Foroohar: America’s Real Economic Crisis Is Flat Wages
Read more: America's Real Economic Crisis Is Flat Wages | TIME.com America's Real Economic Crisis Is Flat Wages | TIME.com

People do realize that 70% of the US economy is driven by consumer spending and the working class is the largest segment of the consumer class,,right?
Sometimes I wonder, we have economist on this board who are also not part of the working class constantly campaigning to keep wages down, which stalls economic growth. Or maybe they are not economist and are part of the working class. So why do they want to continue flat wages? What about their children, if this trend continues, their children will be in the same boat. Wonderful!

 

[william the wie]

This is a foolish argument most people live in states with a minimum wage above the current federal minimum and that has been exporting jobs and capital at a 3 to 1 rate to states without such laws. This is a major reason that Boston, Chicago, NYC and Baltimore are probably going to follow in the footsteps of Detroit. Do the stupid and see what happens.