Rabid anti-abortion extremists activate others to do their dirty work

[Thunderbird]

Abortion doctors do the "legal" work of taking care of women

Taking care of women = killing women before they are born?! What's the matter with you?

Why do you hate women?

The abortion industry lies to women. The abortion industry has been the greatest enemy of the female gender in human history. So really you couldn't be more wrong.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

The Constitution never mentions abortion.

 

[Thunderbird]

Carly Fiorina accurately described O'Donnell's eyewitness narrative of the daily practice of fetal body parts harvesting at Planned Parenthood.

Here are quotes from the transcript.

O'Donnell: so then I hear her calling, ‘hey Holly, come over here. I want you to see something kinda cool. It’s kinda neat, so I’m over here, and the moment I see it, I’m just flabbergasted. This is the gestated fetus, and closest thing to a baby I’ve ever seen. She’s like, okay, I want to show you something. She has one of her instruments, and she just taps the heart and it starts beating. I’m sitting here, and I’m looking at this fetus, and it’s heart is beating, and I don’t know what to think.

O'Donnell again: It had a face. It wasn’t completely torn up, and its nose was very pronounced. It had eyelids and its mouth was pronounced, and then, since the fetus was so intact, she said, well, okay, this is a really good fetus and it looks like we can procure a lot from it. Um, we’re going to procure a brain, so the moment I heard that, that meant we’re going to have to cut the head open, we’re going to have to cut the head open. ‘So, okay, so what you do is you go through the face.’ I’m thinking, no, don’t do this, and she takes the scissors and she makes a small incision right here [O’Donnell points to her chin], and goes, I would say maybe a little through the mouth. She says, ‘okay, can you go the rest of the way,’ and I’m like…yes. And I didn’t want to do this. So she gave me the scissors and told me that I had to cut down the middle of the face, and I can’t even, like, describe what that feels like.

No hyperbole, just the facts: they torture infants to death at Planned Parenthood.

 

[2aguy]

Since he didn't kill anyone associated with the murder facility ....there is a chance the baby parts he talked about is what he actually saw in the clinic as he moved through it......since he had no running water or electricity......and no way to view those videos in his home...

 

[2aguy]

Freedom of speech is one thing, but are people like Cruz, Fiorina, Huckabee, Trump, and Center for Medical Progress who spread lies and misinformation any less guilty than the terrorists they incite and instigate to commit violence against those who are providing legal services to poor women? This is part of how ISIS works - triggering lone wolves to commit terrorist acts. Acting surprised and expressing phony remorse does not absolve those who motivate others to commit terrorist acts. Why did Robert Dear tell police "No More Baby Parts"? Where did he hear that? He heard it from the links below:

When the shooting that killed three at a Colorado Planned Parenthood clinic -- where the alleged killer, Robert Dear, reportedly ranted about "baby parts" after the crime -- occurred, the folks at CNSNews.com, the "news" division of the right-wing Media Research Center, knew what it had to do: change the narrative.

First on the agenda: dismiss the shooter as crazy, despite the fact that no psychological evaluation of Dear has been performed or otherwise made public. CNS articles portray Dear as "an apparently unstable man," highlighted Dear's "several run-ins with police" touted a Republican congressman's suggestion that Dear has "mental problems" and promoted GOP presidential candidates calling Dear a "madman" and "very unstable," not to mention "deranged."

CNS has done this before; it repeatedly portrayed Scott Roeder, killer of abortion doctor George Tiller, as mentally unstable despite the fact that he did not mount an insanity defense at his trial and a psychologist hired by his own defense found Roeder competent to stand trial.

The next step was to separate Dear from the anti-abortion movement, even though he was echoing its attacks on Planned Parenthood. CNS reporter Lauretta Browncountered statements by NARAL Pro-Choice America president Ilyse Hogue condemning the killings and those who apparently inspired Dear with statements from anti-abortion groups denouncing violence.

Brown quoted the Center for Medical Progress' denunciation of the killings -- in which Dear was dismissed as a "violent madman" -- and proudly noted CMP's "undercover videos over the summer showing Planned Parenthood's harvesting of aborted baby parts," but she did not mention that Dear was ranting about "baby parts" during his rampage.

Similarly, Brown highlighted Operation Rescue's statement denouncing the shooting, but she didn't mention that Operation Rescue official Cheryl Sullenger spent time in prison for plotting to blow up an abortion clinic.

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It was most likely Bill O'Reilly's rants that got Doctor Tiller assassinated.

No...it was the fact that Dr. tiller proudly murdered babies in the last 3 months of pregnancy that got him killed......fully formed babies that he murdered....

 

[whitehall]

Maybe a left wing fantasy revolves around a concept of "activating others" to commit murder but it just ain't so. God help us if it was possible because the radical left would be sitting pretty instead of struggling for existence.

 

[2aguy]

Freedom of speech is one thing, but are people like Cruz, Fiorina, Huckabee, Trump, and Center for Medical Progress who spread lies and misinformation any less guilty than the terrorists they incite and instigate to commit violence against those who are providing legal services to poor women? This is part of how ISIS works - triggering lone wolves to commit terrorist acts. Acting surprised and expressing phony remorse does not absolve those who motivate others to commit terrorist acts. Why did Robert Dear tell police "No More Baby Parts"? Where did he hear that? He heard it from the links below:

When the shooting that killed three at a Colorado Planned Parenthood clinic -- where the alleged killer, Robert Dear, reportedly ranted about "baby parts" after the crime -- occurred, the folks at CNSNews.com, the "news" division of the right-wing Media Research Center, knew what it had to do: change the narrative.

First on the agenda: dismiss the shooter as crazy, despite the fact that no psychological evaluation of Dear has been performed or otherwise made public. CNS articles portray Dear as "an apparently unstable man," highlighted Dear's "several run-ins with police" touted a Republican congressman's suggestion that Dear has "mental problems" and promoted GOP presidential candidates calling Dear a "madman" and "very unstable," not to mention "deranged."

CNS has done this before; it repeatedly portrayed Scott Roeder, killer of abortion doctor George Tiller, as mentally unstable despite the fact that he did not mount an insanity defense at his trial and a psychologist hired by his own defense found Roeder competent to stand trial.

The next step was to separate Dear from the anti-abortion movement, even though he was echoing its attacks on Planned Parenthood. CNS reporter Lauretta Browncountered statements by NARAL Pro-Choice America president Ilyse Hogue condemning the killings and those who apparently inspired Dear with statements from anti-abortion groups denouncing violence.

Brown quoted the Center for Medical Progress' denunciation of the killings -- in which Dear was dismissed as a "violent madman" -- and proudly noted CMP's "undercover videos over the summer showing Planned Parenthood's harvesting of aborted baby parts," but she did not mention that Dear was ranting about "baby parts" during his rampage.

Similarly, Brown highlighted Operation Rescue's statement denouncing the shooting, but she didn't mention that Operation Rescue official Cheryl Sullenger spent time in prison for plotting to blow up an abortion clinic.

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You mean the one deranged guy in the last 5 or 6 years……who may or may not have been targeting planned parenthood/murder even though he didn't kill anyone in the actual facility……

And it occurred to me…..is it possible that the guy was walking through the building and actually saw dead baby parts…and that is what he was saying……?

Deranged? It's sadly funny to hear you NaziCons always trying to excuse anti-abortion terrorists as "deranged". Does that include people like Operation Rescue official Cheryl Sullenger who spent time in prison for plotting to blow up an abortion clinic?

I am a modern American Conservative...what used to be called a "classical" liberal...nazis are left wing socialists......since the only socialists running for President are on the democrat side...you are wrong...

 

[blackhawk]

 

[2aguy]

Maybe a left wing fantasy revolves around a concept of "activating others" to commit murder but it just ain't so. God help us if it was possible because the radical left would be sitting pretty instead of struggling for existence.

Yes...when Christain doctrine is love your enemy, and do unto others as you would have them do unto you and thou shalt do no murder .....can't really activate killers with all that touchy feely peace talk......

 

[Lakhota]

Cowards instigate others to do their bloody work.

 

[Blackrook]

What is your solution? Censorship?

You are a Communist.

 

[Lakhota]

What is your solution? Censorship?

You are a Communist.

Prosecution and prison! Possible death sentence!

 

[Thunderbird]

What is your solution? Censorship?

You are a Communist.

Prosecution and prison! Possible death sentence!

For speech you disapprove of?

 

[Lakhota]

What is your solution? Censorship?

You are a Communist.

Prosecution and prison! Possible death sentence!

For speech you disapprove of?

For speech that incites terrorist acts.

 

[Thunderbird]

People on the left kill too. Should we imprison and even kill leftists for speaking their mind?

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[Thunderbird]

What is your solution? Censorship?

You are a Communist.

Prosecution and prison! Possible death sentence!

For speech you disapprove of?

For speech that incites terrorist acts.

How about someone who criticizes the abortion industry or gay activists or the police but doesn't call for violence?

 

[BlueGin]

Homegrown terrorists are most dangerous threat to Americans!

Not.

You are more likely to die in a car accident.

 

[BlueGin]

People on the left kill too. Should we kill leftists for speaking their mind?

Pro-Life Activist Shot and Killed in Michigan

Inside Vester Lee Flanagan's life

Al Gore and the eco-terrorist

Yep.

They shoot up christian organizations. Is this what Lakhota is trying to gin up?

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[Manonthestreet]

Rosebud........ummm ummmmmkultra...........ummmmummmm

 

[martybegan]

What is your solution? Censorship?

You are a Communist.

Prosecution and prison! Possible death sentence!

For speech you disapprove of?

For speech that incites terrorist acts.

And how would you define "incite terrorist acts"? Currently the definition is actually telling people to go out and kill/rape/attack/destroy.

I have a feeling you would define it far more loosely, basically "If you disagree with me DIE DIE DIE"

 

[oreo]

Freedom of speech is one thing, but are people like Cruz, Fiorina, Huckabee, Trump, and Center for Medical Progress who spread lies and misinformation any less guilty than the terrorists they incite and instigate to commit violence against those who are providing legal services to poor women? This is part of how ISIS works - triggering lone wolves to commit terrorist acts. Acting surprised and expressing phony remorse does not absolve those who motivate others to commit terrorist acts. Why did Robert Dear tell police "No More Baby Parts"? Where did he hear that? He heard it from the links below:

When the shooting that killed three at a Colorado Planned Parenthood clinic -- where the alleged killer, Robert Dear, reportedly ranted about "baby parts" after the crime -- occurred, the folks at CNSNews.com, the "news" division of the right-wing Media Research Center, knew what it had to do: change the narrative.

First on the agenda: dismiss the shooter as crazy, despite the fact that no psychological evaluation of Dear has been performed or otherwise made public. CNS articles portray Dear as "an apparently unstable man," highlighted Dear's "several run-ins with police" touted a Republican congressman's suggestion that Dear has "mental problems" and promoted GOP presidential candidates calling Dear a "madman" and "very unstable," not to mention "deranged."

CNS has done this before; it repeatedly portrayed Scott Roeder, killer of abortion doctor George Tiller, as mentally unstable despite the fact that he did not mount an insanity defense at his trial and a psychologist hired by his own defense found Roeder competent to stand trial.

The next step was to separate Dear from the anti-abortion movement, even though he was echoing its attacks on Planned Parenthood. CNS reporter Lauretta Browncountered statements by NARAL Pro-Choice America president Ilyse Hogue condemning the killings and those who apparently inspired Dear with statements from anti-abortion groups denouncing violence.

Brown quoted the Center for Medical Progress' denunciation of the killings -- in which Dear was dismissed as a "violent madman" -- and proudly noted CMP's "undercover videos over the summer showing Planned Parenthood's harvesting of aborted baby parts," but she did not mention that Dear was ranting about "baby parts" during his rampage.

Similarly, Brown highlighted Operation Rescue's statement denouncing the shooting, but she didn't mention that Operation Rescue official Cheryl Sullenger spent time in prison for plotting to blow up an abortion clinic.

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I don't think you can compare Deer, with what these Islamic terrorists did in San Bernadino. Deer has had mental problems for decades. His x-wife stated he was easily angered, a loner, no friends, didn't go to church, a survivalist. Very religious though considered himself an evangelist. He lived in a trailer out in the middle of no-where near Hartzel. The locals call it SouthPark,.Very cold in the winter. No heat, no water, no electricity, etc. I live about 45 minutes from there, that's why I know the area. His x-wife stated he had vandalized a Planned Parenthood Office 20 years ago. So he's been at it for quite a while.
Ex-Wife Says Colorado Suspect Vandalized Another Clinic
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One isolated neighbor stopped by one day to introduce himself, and within 3 minutes Deer was handing him anti-Obama brochures.

I agree with you, I don't think Supreme Court issues should ever be put on a political platform. These are court issues, and they should be handled by the court. If there was wrong doing by Planned Parenthood, by misuse of funds or doing something they weren't supposed to be doing then our already seated congress should investigate, and anti-abortionists shouldn't have a public forum about it.

THE VIDEOS
We do know that these video's do exist. What I would like to know is who is responsible for taping these video's and then blasting them across the internet. Obviously anti-abortion activists. I think there should be an congressional investigation, and public hearing over these video's. We have 3 innocent people that are dead, and all of them had kids. I think that whomever made these video's and put them out to the public has a responsibility to answer a whole lot of questions, under oath. I think someone should be held accountable for them.

BUT, at the same time Hillary Clinton, as is Carly Fiorina are both in the public eye. Could this happen to Hillary Clinton, to where she says something, and a nutcase takes it much farther than words. Of course it could.

Personally, I don't want to hear another word about abortion or Gay marriage. These are Supreme Court issues and Roe V Wade was settled 45 years ago. And it's going be around for the next 45 years.

No one can legislate their version of morality from Washington D.C. Social issues are not party line political issues, and they should not be treated or handled like they are. The far right of the Republican party, who has continually dragged political candidates into these issues, has resulted in irreparable damage to the Republican party. It's got to stop.