Questions for Trump Supporters, 09/21/2025

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

A few facts first:

• All day every day on USMB, anyone who criticizes the current President is assumed to be a radical/evil left wing communist who want to destroy America.
• At the same time, there is a long list of Republicans who have publicly criticized him as no group of Republicans ever has. Clear, strong rebukes.
• This group includes many of his former staffers, former Cabinet officials, former Generals, former Attorneys, and a wide rage of conservatives.
• It also includes his current Vice President, current Secretary of State, and current Secretary of Health & Human Services.

So just a few questions:

• Do you realize this? Do you understand this? Did I say anything that is incorrect?
• What do you think about when you review those facts?
• Do you believe it's possible that people who are not Left wing have a serious problem with what is happening, regardless of the politics?

I realize many responses will just be personal insults, and that's fine. But it would be nice to gain a little understanding of your thought processes on this.

Link: List of Republicans who opposed the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign

OK, a lot of Franklin Roosevelt’s one time detractors went on to become his greatest supporters. That type of change and also the unity among democrats and Republicans help to get us through World War II.

A big part of the reason why Trump was elected twice is because of radicalism. And that’s something that I rarely see left-wingers and never Trump Republicans ever talk about. Like the insane left-wing ideas on race and gender. No, that’s not a both side thing. And no political violence is not a both side equal thing. It’s not even close. BLM riots were left-wing and constituted the most horrific political violence in recent American history. People voted for Trump in opposition to that not necessarily because they supported Donald Trump.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Let's just cut to the bottom line, shall we?

I think you people know that many of us who criticize Trump and MAGA are not lefties or "commies" at all. That we exist across the political spectrum. And I think that writing us all off as lefties is simply your defense mechanism to avoid admitting it.

We include conservatives, liberals, moderates and independents. Republicans, Democrats and Unaffiliateds. I just want to see if any Trumpsters here are willing to admit this obvious fact, or if you're going to just keep playing this game with yourselves.

The predicted insults are providing an excellent verification.

Obviously there are Republicans who don’t like Trump. Among them the pro war neo conservatives. Not all Trump supporters view their opponents as only communists or lefties. Obviously there’s tons of Trump supporters who have called out the establishment right or the pro war Republicans or things like the uni party. You just don’t know it or you ignore it.

Trump was elected president twice most recently winning the popular vote. And a lot of people were not simply voting just for Trump, but voting against left-wing insanity on race and gender. And left-wing political violence. No, that’s not a both sides do it thing. You are one of those people who say “oh both sides do it” ….well not equally. This is the critical and core problem with your view. Most Americans don’t see it your way. And certainly when it comes to political violence it’s not even close.

The left wing is the most violent political group in recent American history. It is not just the BLM/antifa riot’s. But it’s also their views on race and gender(i.e. lying about people being racist) and you’re gonna keep on doing the old “well both sides do it”.

 

[Dorian Mode]

OK, a lot of Franklin Roosevelt’s one time detractors went on to become his greatest supporters. That type of change and also the unity among democrats and Republicans help to get us through World War II.

A big part of the reason why Trump was elected twice is because of radicalism. And that’s something that I rarely see left-wingers and never Trump Republicans ever talk about. Like the insane left-wing ideas on race and gender. No, that’s not a both side thing. And no political violence is not a both side equal thing. It’s not even close. BLM riots were left-wing and constituted the most horrific political violence in recent American history. People voted for Trump in opposition to that not necessarily because they supported Donald Trump.

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People like Mac1958 really don't think too deeply about politics and all their thoughts are at the emotional level. Once they go deeper than the usual emotional ploys like "Think about the children!" they start to see the political propaganda that really drives a lot of political discourse. Once someone goes deeper than the political propaganda the truth emerges. People don't necessarily adore Trump, but they really detest the left.

 

[kyzr]

is that why donny is so underwater , he can't breathe? & his LACK of character is even worse. how silly to want the leader of this country to no be an embarrassment on the world stage.

OK, lets try this again:
1. Donny is not underwater compared to democrats (19%) or Biden's 75% wrong track. He is the much better alternative.

2. Trump-47's "lack of character" after surviving two assassination attempts isn't obvious, please list the specific issues.

3. Trump was an all-star at the NATO meetings, he even got the EU countries to commit 5% of GDP. Calling him an "embarrassment" after the Brits hold Biden in "contempt" for his AFG disaster is dumb/stupid/moronic.

UK Parliament Holds Biden in Contempt for Afghanistan Withdrawal

The United Kingdom's Parliament on Wednesday held President Joe Biden in contempt for his withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan, calling the move "catastrophic" and "shameful."

freebeacon.com

 

[playtime]

OK, lets try this again:
1. Donny is not underwater compared to democrats (19%) or Biden's 75% wrong track. He is the much better alternative.

2. Trump-47's "lack of character" after surviving two assassination attempts isn't obvious, please list the specific issues.

3. Trump was an all-star at the NATO meetings, he even got the EU countries to commit 5% of GDP. Calling him an "embarrassment" after the Brits hold Biden in "contempt" for his AFG disaster is dumb/stupid/moronic.

UK Parliament Holds Biden in Contempt for Afghanistan Withdrawal

The United Kingdom's Parliament on Wednesday held President Joe Biden in contempt for his withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan, calling the move "catastrophic" and "shameful."

freebeacon.com

yer chosen one's bigley lack of character goes back some 45 years...

as a man, a husband, a father, a business 'tycoon', & as a general human being.

color me naive, but the leader of a country - ANY country - should have a moral compass & yer dear leader is sorely lacking in that arena.

 

[kyzr]

yer chosen one's bigley lack of character goes back some 45 years...
as a man, a husband, a father, a business 'tycoon', & as a general human being.
color me naive, but the leader of a country - ANY country - should have a moral compass & yer dear leader is sorely lacking in that arena.

So if you are not a democrat I'm going to guess that you are a Never-Trumper like g5000.
When electing a president voters compare the choices, their strengths and weaknesses, and then cast their vote, generally for the lesser of the evils.
Electability, intelligence, energy, and policies mean more to me than "choir boy character".
The US has congress and the courts as guardrails or checks and balances to keep any presidential character issues to a minimum.
There are Trump policies I don't like, the Gaza Riviera being one, if he tricks out the gift 747 from Qatar with taxpayer money another, other than those two I'm liking all of his other EOs and "promises kept".

The problem never-Trumpers have is that any alternative meant that the democrat's lawfare would have worked, and we can't allow that.

 

[Dorian Mode]

yer chosen one's bigley lack of character goes back some 45 years...

as a man, a husband, a father, a business 'tycoon', & as a general human being.

color me naive, but the leader of a country - ANY country - should have a moral compass & yer dear leader is sorely lacking in that arena.

Is Trump the only POTUS without a moral compass in the entire history of American politics? I bet you are willing to say Biden, Obama and Clinton all had impeccable moral compasses. Here's a suggestion: hold your beloved party to the same standards that you hold Trump to. It might just save the democrap party.

 

[Cellblock2429]

And there’s the first personal attack

/----/ You attacked everyone on the Right. We're supposed to sit here, shut up, and take it? No way, Jose.

 

[Mac1958]

color me naive, but the leader of a country - ANY country - should have a moral compass & yer dear leader is sorely lacking in that arena.

I would really like to be able to expect more, but now there are just no standards.

Or worse, they'll ASSIGN qualities to him, like character, intelligence, strength, empathy, etc.

Pointless. It really looks like this just has to play out like a cancer, for better or worse.

 

[80zephyr]

Wrong. The two assholes differ on immigration, sports, and tariffs. That’s it. Everything else you’ve listed they are nearly identical twins. Plus add their love of the .01%, war machine, Wall Street, and Israel. And their hatred of poor and working class Americans.

They believe the same on NATO? Really?

 

[BlindBoo]

What you call a "fact" is almost always complete bullshit.

is "Global Warming" a "fact?"

An absolute fact. The globe is warming and the Ice caps are melting. It has been for well over 12,000 years. It's a feature of the Ice Age we live in. The scientist don't know when it's going to stop and return to a glacial advancing state either. They're pretty sure it will some day. They don't know how much human activity has contributed to the warming in the current Epoch, if any at all.

 

[EMH]

The globe is warming

No actual data showing that, only fudge. Actual satellite, balloon, and surface air pressure data completely refute it.

the Ice caps are melting

Then surely you can show us a PHOTO of "ocean rise," but you cannot...

the Ice Age

You are an absolute moron and you have no clue what an ICE AGE really is...

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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Try answering 5 basic climate questions for us...

Thread 'Any honest media person with the courage to actually ask climate questions?'

Feb 12, 2024

Apparently not.

Not on Faux

Not on RAV or OANN


What questions will the media never ask?


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



The Co2 Fraud is bilking America out of $200 billion per...

• EMH
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[BlindBoo]

No actual data showing that, only fudge. Actual satellite, balloon, and surface air pressure data completely refute it.

The world has been warming since the last glacial maximum. Notice, however, that the peak temperature in the previous epoch(s) is/are greater than today. Yet somehow humanity managed to survive.

 

[80zephyr]

An absolute fact. The globe is warming and the Ice caps are melting. It has been for well over 12,000 years. It's a feature of the Ice Age we live in. The scientist don't know when it's going to stop and return to a glacial advancing state either. They're pretty sure it will some day. They don't know how much human activity has contributed to the warming in the current Epoch, if any at all.

You are correct.

 

[gipper]

They believe the same on NATO? Really?

Absolutely! Trump is still arming Ukraine and continuing the war there. He merely wants Europe to keep buying US weapons to enrich his billionaire buddies running the war machine. Exactly as Genocide Joe did.

 

[80zephyr]

Absolutely! Trump is still arming Ukraine and continuing the war there. He merely wants Europe to keep buying US weapons to enrich his billionaire buddies running the war machine. Exactly as Genocide Joe did.

Nope. Trump is making them pay their fair share. A HUGE difference.

 

[EMH]

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The world has been warming since the last glacial maximum. Notice, however, that the peak temperature in the previous epoch(s) is/are greater than today. Yet somehow humanity managed to survive.

To cut and paste a fudge chart takes no intelligence.

Do you know where the "data" for that originates?


During every one of those "interglacials" 97% of Earth ice on Greenland and Antarctica grew, and the ice cores prove it.

 

[Eman623]

A few facts first:

• All day every day on USMB, anyone who criticizes the current President is assumed to be a radical/evil left wing communist who want to destroy America.
• At the same time, there is a long list of Republicans who have publicly criticized him as no group of Republicans ever has. Clear, strong rebukes.
• This group includes many of his former staffers, former Cabinet officials, former Generals, former Attorneys, and a wide rage of conservatives.
• It also includes his current Vice President, current Secretary of State, and current Secretary of Health & Human Services.

So just a few questions:

• Do you realize this? Do you understand this? Did I say anything that is incorrect?
• What do you think about when you review those facts?
• Do you believe it's possible that people who are not Left wing have a serious problem with what is happening, regardless of the politics?

I realize many responses will just be personal insults, and that's fine. But it would be nice to gain a little understanding of your thought processes on this.

Link: List of Republicans who opposed the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign

1. I don't assume that anyone who criticizes Trump is evil or want to destroy America. I disagree with him all the time and I'm a patriotic.
2. Given #1, your "facts" are in fact lies.
3. I spend remarkably little time worrying about other people's problems. I have enough of my own to keep me busy.

 

[gipper]

Nope. Trump is making them pay their fair share. A HUGE difference.

No. You’ll believe anything dumb Don says.

I bet you believe he built the wall and Mexico paid for it.

 

[80zephyr]

No. You’ll believe anything dumb Don says.

I bet you believe he built the wall and Mexico paid for it.

So prove me wrong.