Zone1 Question

[Captain Caveman]

Cuz he ain't a nice person?

Can't say as I care anyway, cuz I do not believe Satan exists nor a Hell either except as whatever situations we create for ourselves while we are alive. Did Jesus ever mention Satan or Hell specifically? Don't know.

I think Satan/devil is mentioned about 54 times in the Bible, but I've not looked to see if any of those implicated Jesus.

Maybe around here, some atheist religion expert knows, or a religious person.

 

[TNHarley]

Cuz he ain't a nice person?

Can't say as I care anyway, cuz I do not believe Satan exists nor a Hell either except as whatever situations we create for ourselves while we are alive. Did Jesus ever mention Satan or Hell specifically? Don't know.

He did. A lot. But he didnt call it hell, though.

 

[TNHarley]

Surprising what they worship.

I'm agnostic, I sit on the fence and watch the fisty cuffs at dawn between the religious and the atheists (who believe they're the experts on religion).

I dont believe in the abrahamic religions, but I dont doubt the concept of a supreme being, or creator. So I label myself agnostic.

 

[Captain Caveman]

He did. A lot. But he didnt call it hell, though.

Seems to be a lot of verbal fighting when it comes to religion, but it doesn't pay our mortgages. Not sure why some of the religious just don't get on with their lives, and the same with atheists?

If anyone has any concerns or pressing questions about religion, they have 3 options -

1) Do fuck all

2) Go and see a vicar/pastor/pope etc..

3) Buy a Bible and read it. Any concerns can be discussed at their local bible group meeting

 

[task0778]

He did. A lot. But he didnt call it hell, though.

OK, but I wonder if he actually did or whether somebody at some later time attributed those references to him that he actually didn't say. I sometimes wonder if much of his original message was changed to bolster the power of the early Catholic church. Accept Jesus as your savior or roast in Hell does have a little gravitas, no?

 

[TNHarley]

Seems to be a lot of verbal fighting when it comes to religion, but it doesn't pay our mortgages. Not sure why some of the religious just don't get on with their lives, and the same with atheists?

If anyone has any concerns or pressing questions about religion, they have 3 options -

1) Do fuck all

2) Go and see a vicar/pastor/pope etc..

3) Buy a Bible and read it. Any concerns can be discussed at their local bible group meeting

I love discussing religion. All of them. I could spend all day talking about hinduism. Its so interesting and creative.

 

[TNHarley]

OK, but I wonder if he actually did or whether somebody at some later time attributed those references to him that he actually didn't say. I sometimes wonder if much of his original message was changed to bolster the power of the early Catholic church. Accept Jesus as your savior or roast in Hell does have a little gravitas, no?

You wont get any argument from me on that.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I love discussing religion. All of them. I could spend all day talking about hinduism. Its so interesting and creative.

Where do you sit with religion, atheism etc..

 

[TNHarley]

Where do you sit with religion, atheism etc..

Atheism is disbelieving because of lack of proof, which I dont agree with. Just because there isnt proof, doesnt mean something doesnt exist.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Atheism is disbelieving because of lack of proof, which I dont agree with. Just because there isnt proof, doesnt mean something doesnt exist.

My same sentiments.

 

[ESay]

I love discussing religion. All of them. I could spend all day talking about hinduism. Its so interesting and creative.

Hinduism? What is so interesting in Hinduism? Except of maybe a thousand branches.

 

[TNHarley]

Hinduism? What is so interesting in Hinduism? Except of maybe a thousand branches.

The Yuga. Their creation stories.

 

[ESay]

The Yuga. Their creation stories.

But their worldview is so .. impractical. Their cast system, fatalism, 'non-moralism'.

 

[TNHarley]

But their worldview is so .. impractical. Their cast system, fatalism, 'non-moralism'.

I understand that.
Although one can argue that their cast system of today was shaped by the British.

 

[ESay]

I understand that.
Although one can argue that their cast system of today was shaped by the British.

Of today maybe. But it doesn't matter what families comprise the upper cast. Who cares. What is important is that the cast system is an integral part of Hinduism. Kind of, the conception of hell.

 

[TNHarley]

Of today maybe. But it doesn't matter what families comprise the upper cast. Who cares. What is important is that the cast system is an integral part of Hinduism. Kind of, the conception of hell.

Agreed

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I sometimes wonder if much of his original message was changed to bolster the power of the early Catholic church. Accept Jesus as your savior or roast in Hell does have a little gravitas, no?

Domination Through Damnation

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I love discussing religion. All of them. I could spend all day talking about hinduism. Its so interesting and creative.

Cast out Caste

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

But their worldview is so .. impractical. Their cast system, fatalism, 'non-moralism'.

Man Up and Topple the Top

Hindu vegetarianism creates cowardice, which is the only way its Birth-Class Supremacy can survive.

 

[ding]

Atheism is disbelieving because of lack of proof, which I dont agree with. Just because there isnt proof, doesnt mean something doesnt exist.

Atheism is a belief that only the material world exists. Apparently they are too ignorant to state what they believe in the affirmative. It's like a football fan defining he's a Titan's fan by saying he's not a Cowboys fan. So dumb.