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[candycorn]

In all due respect, I think this whole thing goes way WAY beyond inept.

Right...this thread goes straight to the "pure bullshit" moniker.

Question? Were you dropped on your head at birth?

 

[surada]

You'fre in over your head, yet again....Just STFU.

Don't be stupid.

Trump Is Totally Cavalier About His Use of Personal Technology

But what about her emails?

www.theatlantic.com

Trump handling of security information at Mar-a-Lago queried by House panel

President Donald Trump's handling of U.S. security information at his Florida resort came under congressional scrutiny on Tuesday as a watchdog panel asked the White House to explain reports that Trump dealt with a sensitive foreign policy issue in view of club guests.

www.reuters.com

 

[sparky]

The "intelligence community" is acting far outside their lawful spheres.

at least you 'get it' here , thx Odd one

~S~

 

[OldFlame]

The government over classifies a lot of documents. Only the fbi and DOJ is going to know exactly which ones have a real interest to our adversaries. So far, Trump is a big loser in that regard.
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” All documents produced by United States intelligence, some law enforcement and other federal agencies are generally kept under a classification system.”

That means there is a lot empty shit out there markEd “classified “. Deal with it. Anyone in support who has served in the military knows that’s true.

Amazing how the leftie narrative changes on a dime now that the asshole in chief is in the spotlight.

 

[BackAgain]

~ Only sometimes .. ?

Well, in fairness, sometimes some of them are good at their jobs. Like the IRS is good at taking our money.

 

[Oddball]

Don't be stupid.

Trump Is Totally Cavalier About His Use of Personal Technology

But what about her emails?

www.theatlantic.com

Trump handling of security information at Mar-a-Lago queried by House panel

President Donald Trump's handling of U.S. security information at his Florida resort came under congressional scrutiny on Tuesday as a watchdog panel asked the White House to explain reports that Trump dealt with a sensitive foreign policy issue in view of club guests.

www.reuters.com

None of which was SCI info....But nobody here is expecting you to be smarter that the dullard hacks at Atlantic and Reuters.

 

[Foxfyre]

Well, in fairness, sometimes some of them are good at their jobs. Like the IRS is good at taking our money.

But the current Administration is gung ho to weaponize the IRS which will include unprecedented tactics bordering on extortion with some of the general public and major harassment of a lot of people who won't deserve that.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And now Pence found classified documents he says were inadvertently boxed up and sent to his Indiana home.

This on top of the drip-drip-drip of classified docs found in Biden's home and the Penn Biden Center.

All documents presumably they should not have had.

But only Trump's Mar-a-lago home was raided and savaged in the wee hours of the morning to retrieve illegal classified documents so we were told.

QUESTION:

How is it the National Archives didn't know anything about all those documents in Biden's and Pence's possession, never asked for them back, didn't advise the FBI they were missing, but notified the FBI that Trump was illegally keeping documents at Mar-a-lago?

As far as I can tell, someone told them about Trump's stash. And probably someone told them about Biden's.

The difference is Biden and Pence both complied, Trump played game.

 

[Oddball]

As far as I can tell, someone told them about Trump's stash. And probably someone told them about Biden's.

The difference is Biden and Pence both complied, Trump played game.

At least that's how the hack-a-rama in the media has framed the situation for you....Which you've lapped up like a kitten at a saucer of cream.

 

[surada]

None of which was SCI info....But nobody here is expecting you to be smarter that the dullard hacks at Atlantic and Reuters.

They are two of the most respected names in journalism. Perhaps you prefer Gateway Pundit. Are you saying Trump didn't use the Mara Lago dining room as a situation room?

 

[meaner gene]

But the current Administration is gung ho to weaponize the IRS which will include unprecedented tactics bordering on extortion with some of the general public and major harassment of a lot of people who won't deserve that.

This is actually indicative of the type of people you are.
If you're like George Floyd, you don't want more police on the street.
If you're Bernie Madoff, you don't want more SEC agents.
And if you're a tax cheat, you don't want more IRS agents.

 

[Oddball]

They are two of the most respected names in journalism. Perhaps you prefer Gateway Pundit. Are you saying Trump didn't use the Mara Lago dining room as a situation room?

They're two of the biggest hack operations this side of China's Global Times.

 

[meaner gene]

At least that's how the hack-a-rama in the media has framed the situation for you....Which you've lapped up like a kitten at a saucer of cream.

Do the math.
The number of days between finding documents with classification markings, and turning them over to the National Archives varies greatly.

Biden - average time 1 day
Pence - average time 1 day
Trump - average time 6 months

 

[Oddball]

Do the math.
The number of days between finding documents with classification markings, and turning them over to the National Archives varies greatly.

Biden - average time 1 day
Pence - average time 1 day
Trump - average time 6 months

SCI docs don't reside at the National Archives, Corky.

And Trump's attorneys didn't need to go rooting around in the closet of his fake "think tank" in order to "discover" them.

 

[Foxfyre]

As far as I can tell, someone told them about Trump's stash. And probably someone told them about Biden's.

The difference is Biden and Pence both complied, Trump played game.

Trump gave them what they asked for. Boxes and boxes of it. No stalling. No complaints. Handed them over. Then the FBI came calling in the spring and asked to see any other docs Trump took with him. They were let into the storage room and allowed to go through every single box, see what was there, take with them anything they wanted, were told if they wanted anything other than what was in the storage room just ask and it would be produced. They asked for nothing, took nothing, asked that an extra lock be put on the storage room door and left.

If there was anything else they needed, all they had to do was ask for it later. They didn't.

Then just before the midterms, there was the Gestapo type raid on Mar-a-lago, the FBI kicked Trump's lawyer and staff off the premises so nobody could see what they were doing, they ransacked the place, spread empty folders on the floor for a photo op, took boxes with them including personal papers they had no right to have--that it was illegal for them to take--made sure the media had lots of opportunity to take what looked like incriminating photos, and left.

If the FBI had found ANYTHING in all of that they could say was incriminating, you can be damn sure the whole world would have known about it before the midterms as the whole operation was to damage Trump and the GOP before the midterms. They kept even the existence of Biden's docs quiet until after the midterms so as not to hurt the Democrats.

The double standard, the lack of due process, the obvious bias and partisanship, the willingness to bear false witness. . .all of that is pure evil.

 

[Foxfyre]

Do the math.
The number of days between finding documents with classification markings, and turning them over to the National Archives varies greatly.

Biden - average time 1 day
Pence - average time 1 day
Trump - average time 6 months

Biden's docs were known about since November 2 but some dated back to his Senate days. None were turned over for weeks giving his lawyers and staff, with no security clearances, time to go through it all and remove anything that might be really incriminating.
Pence docs were found and reported and were picked up by the FBI 8 days later.
The media and Justice Dept and NARA have been so thoroughly dishonest in their dealings with Trump, we will likely never have a believable official account of what happened.

 

[Foxfyre]

This is actually indicative of the type of people you are.
If you're like George Floyd, you don't want more police on the street.
If you're Bernie Madoff, you don't want more SEC agents.
And if you're a tax cheat, you don't want more IRS agents.

Yours is indicative of an ad hominem argument that is laughed at by debate judges who score it with zeros and/or an argument by somebody who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. You pick.

 

[BWK]

And now Pence found classified documents he says were inadvertently boxed up and sent to his Indiana home.

This on top of the drip-drip-drip of classified docs found in Biden's home and the Penn Biden Center.

All documents presumably they should not have had.

But only Trump's Mar-a-lago home was raided and savaged in the wee hours of the morning to retrieve illegal classified documents so we were told.

QUESTION:

How is it the National Archives didn't know anything about all those documents in Biden's and Pence's possession, never asked for them back, didn't advise the FBI they were missing, but notified the FBI that Trump was illegally keeping documents at Mar-a-lago?

Probably the sheer volume. Trump had so many, that it was obvious to the archives. And he had them for so long. Then Trump compounded the problem by not voluntarily handing them over. That's a huge difference.

 

[BWK]

I have no doubt there are specialists in several government agencies that are looking for ways to criticize, accuse, indict Donald J. Trump.

He deliberately stole them. Trump will be indicted.

 

[Foxfyre]

Probably the sheer volume. Trump had so many, that it was obvious to the archives. And he had them for so long. Then Trump compounded the problem by not voluntarily handing them over. That's a huge difference.

He did not believe he had anything that needed to be voluntarily turned over. But he gave them what they specifically asked for. There is absolutely zero anything sinister or illegal in that.