Question for Christians: Tithing

[Taz]

Actually, the preists were preying on kids. Even YOU know that.

They don't care. They just want to indulge their homophobia

You're confusing the 2 things, homosexual and pedophile. Sure, some pedophiles prefer the same sex, but regular homosexuals aren't pedophiles.

Actually homosexuals commit from one third to one half of all child molestations, and they are only 1%-2% of the population, plus their 'Rights' movement hoax had pedophile rapist fronts on its organizational advisor committees for decades, with few complaints outside of some scattered lesbian activists who were promptly ignored. The Founder of the first 'Gay Rights' organization in the U.S. was Harry Hays, a Communist, and he is famous for his support of NAMBLA throughout his years as a leader, even wearing a NAMBLA Walks With Me sign board when some lesbians managed to get the NAMBLA marchers tossed out of a Pride Parade, a very rare occurrence. Homosexuals and pedophilia are indeed close enough together, and even of those who might not be molesters themselves, they most certainly have a very high acceptance and tolerance for it and have no problems with kiddie rapers, so yeah, it's more than correct to tie them to each other's mental illnesses and fetishes.

Enough unlinked nonsense, go back in the closet and shut the door tight, or someone might find you in there. Like I just did.

 

[Taz]

Well, it's not really "for him" - mostly it's to provide for "The Church", the bride of Christ. The Gospel spreaders etc.

again, God could tell his followers to buy Microsoft and give that to the Church. It would seem to me that an omnipotent being would be a better financial planner.

I can't tap into the mind of God. You'd have to ask someone closer to Him....

sure you can read what Jesus said.

Actually, the bible was written several generations after the facts, minimum. So everything Jesus "said" was hearsay.

Actually the main theology was already well known before the fall of the Second Temple, and established before the 2nd century; the four Gospels, Acts, and Paul's letters were never in dispute anywhere, and the orthodox theology was by far the most prevalent, so much so that nobody thought about there evenbeing a need for a 'canon' at all, until Marcion's fake version began to be discussed. So, we're talking one generation, with it being widespread by the 2nd and 3rd 'generations' across the entire Roman empire and into Ethiopia and India.

Carbon dating says otherwise, but you're welcome to believe in your fantasies.

 

[Aletheia4u]

And the problems the Catholic Church experienced from the 1950's through the 1980's was a homosexual problem and not a pedophile problem. Now you know.

Actually, the preists were preying on kids. Even YOU know that.

The Catholic priest are trying to be holier than thou. Paul said that he was able to fight off sexual immorality from his mind. But to those that aren't able to do so, then they should marry. That they shouldn't deprived themselves from having sexual relationship if they aren't strong enough. The Priesthood is forcing servants to be something that they cannot be. That is against what Paul was preaching. But then there are some that enter the Priesthood so that they can prey on children, just like how some teachers becomes teachers just to get next to children. Those are wolves in sheep's clothing. But those that cannot withstand from coveting after someone should get married. Like there are some inmates that can withstand from having sexual desires entertaining their minds. But then there are some that cannot and will rehearse their sexual fantasies with someone of the same sex. while in prison But then that there are those that only have desires for the same sex.


Matthew 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

1 Corinthians 7:1 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

The bible is a book of fiction. Wake up.

You cannot explain how someone can predict something that never was in the process at all.







The Eastern ruler....

wtf are you talking about? I don't watch videos.

Unless they are porn videos..

 

[Aletheia4u]

again, God could tell his followers to buy Microsoft and give that to the Church. It would seem to me that an omnipotent being would be a better financial planner.

I can't tap into the mind of God. You'd have to ask someone closer to Him....

sure you can read what Jesus said.

Actually, the bible was written several generations after the facts, minimum. So everything Jesus "said" was hearsay.

Actually the main theology was already well known before the fall of the Second Temple, and established before the 2nd century; the four Gospels, Acts, and Paul's letters were never in dispute anywhere, and the orthodox theology was by far the most prevalent, so much so that nobody thought about there evenbeing a need for a 'canon' at all, until Marcion's fake version began to be discussed. So, we're talking one generation, with it being widespread by the 2nd and 3rd 'generations' across the entire Roman empire and into Ethiopia and India.

Carbon dating says otherwise, but you're welcome to believe in your fantasies.

 

[Taz]

Actually, the preists were preying on kids. Even YOU know that.

The Catholic priest are trying to be holier than thou. Paul said that he was able to fight off sexual immorality from his mind. But to those that aren't able to do so, then they should marry. That they shouldn't deprived themselves from having sexual relationship if they aren't strong enough. The Priesthood is forcing servants to be something that they cannot be. That is against what Paul was preaching. But then there are some that enter the Priesthood so that they can prey on children, just like how some teachers becomes teachers just to get next to children. Those are wolves in sheep's clothing. But those that cannot withstand from coveting after someone should get married. Like there are some inmates that can withstand from having sexual desires entertaining their minds. But then there are some that cannot and will rehearse their sexual fantasies with someone of the same sex. while in prison But then that there are those that only have desires for the same sex.


Matthew 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

1 Corinthians 7:1 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

The bible is a book of fiction. Wake up.

You cannot explain how someone can predict something that never was in the process at all.







The Eastern ruler....

wtf are you talking about? I don't watch videos.

Unless they are porn videos..

Why? Is that what you do?

 

[Taz]

I can't tap into the mind of God. You'd have to ask someone closer to Him....

sure you can read what Jesus said.

Actually, the bible was written several generations after the facts, minimum. So everything Jesus "said" was hearsay.

Actually the main theology was already well known before the fall of the Second Temple, and established before the 2nd century; the four Gospels, Acts, and Paul's letters were never in dispute anywhere, and the orthodox theology was by far the most prevalent, so much so that nobody thought about there evenbeing a need for a 'canon' at all, until Marcion's fake version began to be discussed. So, we're talking one generation, with it being widespread by the 2nd and 3rd 'generations' across the entire Roman empire and into Ethiopia and India.

Carbon dating says otherwise, but you're welcome to believe in your fantasies.

So you have no point to make. Got it.

If you ever do have a point to make, make it, and link it to a credible website. That's how it's done here.

 

[Aletheia4u]

sure you can read what Jesus said.

Actually, the bible was written several generations after the facts, minimum. So everything Jesus "said" was hearsay.

Actually the main theology was already well known before the fall of the Second Temple, and established before the 2nd century; the four Gospels, Acts, and Paul's letters were never in dispute anywhere, and the orthodox theology was by far the most prevalent, so much so that nobody thought about there evenbeing a need for a 'canon' at all, until Marcion's fake version began to be discussed. So, we're talking one generation, with it being widespread by the 2nd and 3rd 'generations' across the entire Roman empire and into Ethiopia and India.

Carbon dating says otherwise, but you're welcome to believe in your fantasies.

So you have no point to make. Got it.

If you ever do have a point to make, make it, and link it to a credible website. That's how it's done here.

Here in the States, that these videos are credible. But you do not recognize that, why? Mary Schweitzer is well known in the science community. And if she says that the process of fossilization studies needs to be rewritten, and then it needs to be done.


Mary Higby Schweitzer is a paleontologist at North Carolina State University, who is known for leading the groups that discovered the remains of blood cells in dinosaur fossils and later discovered soft tissue remains in the Tyrannosaurus rex specimen MOR 1125,[1][2] as well as evidence that the specimen was a gravid female when she died.[3] More recently, Schweitzer's work has shown molecular similarities between Tyrannosaurus remains and chickens, providing further evidence of the bird-dinosaur connection.[4] Mary Higby Schweitzer - Wikipedia

 

[Taz]

Actually, the bible was written several generations after the facts, minimum. So everything Jesus "said" was hearsay.

Actually the main theology was already well known before the fall of the Second Temple, and established before the 2nd century; the four Gospels, Acts, and Paul's letters were never in dispute anywhere, and the orthodox theology was by far the most prevalent, so much so that nobody thought about there evenbeing a need for a 'canon' at all, until Marcion's fake version began to be discussed. So, we're talking one generation, with it being widespread by the 2nd and 3rd 'generations' across the entire Roman empire and into Ethiopia and India.

Carbon dating says otherwise, but you're welcome to believe in your fantasies.

So you have no point to make. Got it.

If you ever do have a point to make, make it, and link it to a credible website. That's how it's done here.

Here in the States, that these videos are credible. But you do not recognize that, why? Mary Schweitzer is well known in the science community. And if she says that the process of fossilization studies needs to be rewritten, and then it needs to be done.


Mary Higby Schweitzer is a paleontologist at North Carolina State University, who is known for leading the groups that discovered the remains of blood cells in dinosaur fossils and later discovered soft tissue remains in the Tyrannosaurus rex specimen MOR 1125,[1][2] as well as evidence that the specimen was a gravid female when she died.[3] More recently, Schweitzer's work has shown molecular similarities between Tyrannosaurus remains and chickens, providing further evidence of the bird-dinosaur connection.[4] Mary Higby Schweitzer - Wikipedia

I don't have time to sit through 5 videos so you can attempt to make a point. If you want to make a point, make it in writing and link to a credible source/website, not a video. Otherwise, go bother someone else.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Actually the main theology was already well known before the fall of the Second Temple, and established before the 2nd century; the four Gospels, Acts, and Paul's letters were never in dispute anywhere, and the orthodox theology was by far the most prevalent, so much so that nobody thought about there evenbeing a need for a 'canon' at all, until Marcion's fake version began to be discussed. So, we're talking one generation, with it being widespread by the 2nd and 3rd 'generations' across the entire Roman empire and into Ethiopia and India.

Carbon dating says otherwise, but you're welcome to believe in your fantasies.

So you have no point to make. Got it.

If you ever do have a point to make, make it, and link it to a credible website. That's how it's done here.

Here in the States, that these videos are credible. But you do not recognize that, why? Mary Schweitzer is well known in the science community. And if she says that the process of fossilization studies needs to be rewritten, and then it needs to be done.


Mary Higby Schweitzer is a paleontologist at North Carolina State University, who is known for leading the groups that discovered the remains of blood cells in dinosaur fossils and later discovered soft tissue remains in the Tyrannosaurus rex specimen MOR 1125,[1][2] as well as evidence that the specimen was a gravid female when she died.[3] More recently, Schweitzer's work has shown molecular similarities between Tyrannosaurus remains and chickens, providing further evidence of the bird-dinosaur connection.[4] Mary Higby Schweitzer - Wikipedia

I don't have time to sit through 5 videos so you can attempt to make a point. If you want to make a point, make it in writing and link to a credible source/website, not a video. Otherwise, go bother someone else.

I believe that you are the one that had started bothering me. But if you were studying to become a $ 15 an hour scientist, that you will know that carbon dating is not accurate.


Since 1947, scientists have reckoned the ages of many old objects by measuring the amounts of radioactive carbon they contain. New research shows, however, that some estimates based on carbon may have erred by thousands of years. And tell your boss to get a higher speed internet provider. I know that some countries are still using 1/2 G dial up. I do not know any placed in the States that still uses low speed dial up that makes it hard to stream online videos. Unless they are 20 or more people using the same modem.


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It is too soon to know whether the discovery will seriously upset the estimated dates of events like the arrival of human beings in the Western Hemisphere, scientists said. But it is already clear that the carbon method of dating will have to be recalibrated and corrected in some cases. ERRORS ARE FEARED IN CARBON DATING

 

[Taz]

Carbon dating says otherwise, but you're welcome to believe in your fantasies.

So you have no point to make. Got it.

If you ever do have a point to make, make it, and link it to a credible website. That's how it's done here.

Here in the States, that these videos are credible. But you do not recognize that, why? Mary Schweitzer is well known in the science community. And if she says that the process of fossilization studies needs to be rewritten, and then it needs to be done.


Mary Higby Schweitzer is a paleontologist at North Carolina State University, who is known for leading the groups that discovered the remains of blood cells in dinosaur fossils and later discovered soft tissue remains in the Tyrannosaurus rex specimen MOR 1125,[1][2] as well as evidence that the specimen was a gravid female when she died.[3] More recently, Schweitzer's work has shown molecular similarities between Tyrannosaurus remains and chickens, providing further evidence of the bird-dinosaur connection.[4] Mary Higby Schweitzer - Wikipedia

I don't have time to sit through 5 videos so you can attempt to make a point. If you want to make a point, make it in writing and link to a credible source/website, not a video. Otherwise, go bother someone else.

I believe that you are the one that had started bothering me. But if you were studying to become a $ 15 an hour scientist, that you will know that carbon dating is not accurate.


Since 1947, scientists have reckoned the ages of many old objects by measuring the amounts of radioactive carbon they contain. New research shows, however, that some estimates based on carbon may have erred by thousands of years. And tell your boss to get a higher speed internet provider. I know that some countries are still using 1/2 G dial up. I do not know any placed in the States that still uses low speed dial up that makes it hard to stream online videos. Unless they are 20 or more people using the same modem.


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It is too soon to know whether the discovery will seriously upset the estimated dates of events like the arrival of human beings in the Western Hemisphere, scientists said. But it is already clear that the carbon method of dating will have to be recalibrated and corrected in some cases. ERRORS ARE FEARED IN CARBON DATING

When you learn how to debate, come back. Until then, **** off.

 

[Hawkins]

Well, it's not really "for him" - mostly it's to provide for "The Church", the bride of Christ. The Gospel spreaders etc.

The importance of tithing is for saving souls. To me it's bit yes and no. Money pooling is critical in terms of soul saving. It's like this,

When you know with consent that children in Africa are dying in hunger on a daily basis, should you donate all your money to save the dying instead of using your money surfing the net while watching them die, just as what you are doing now? You should but we all know that you won't.

Similar, how good it is to watch people die in terms of souls? You should donate all your money but God knows that you won't! Saving soul is far more important than saving lives of children in Africa!

 

[ding]

And the problems the Catholic Church experienced from the 1950's through the 1980's was a homosexual problem and not a pedophile problem. Now you know.

Um, no, they had a pedophile problem because when you advertise for help with "Must have no sexual interest in adult women and be willing to spend lots of time with kids", you are going to have a problem.

I do think a large part of the problem was back in Old School Catholicism, when Little Timmy started singing showtunes in puberty, they shipped him off to the seminary, where his sexual development was arrested. While his little playmates were learning how to touch Sally's private parts, he was a frustrated teen boy who might have been gay, then released back into the wild as a 20 something.

Cool story, bro, but if you look at the time line this all happened back between the 1960's and 1980's. This mirrored the sexual revolution. The Catholic Church was a safe have for homosexuals.

 

[ding]

Your logic eludes me, Joe.

Did I need to use smaller words.

If you believe that you should give money to the Church so the Church can do charitable things...

Then you believe that church serves an omnipotent God who allows the evils that require charity to start with.

A Greek Philosopher named Epicurus figured this out a long time ago, even before Jesus.

1. If God is willing but unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
2. If God is able but not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
3. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
4. If God is unable and unwilling to prevent evil, why call him God?

So you believe in an omnipotent being who allows evil to exist so that the rest of us can show how "good" we are by giving up money we worked hard to earn, when he could just as easily snap his fingers and make these things go away.

And sorry, before you direct me to read the bible or some such nonsense, the Bible is full of stories of God doing truly horrible things because the Hebrews weren't giving him his props!

Did I need to use smaller words.

Probably. You're not very good at using big ones.

If you believe that you should give money to the Church so the Church can do charitable things...

Then you believe that church serves an omnipotent God who allows the evils that require charity to start with.

A Greek Philosopher named Epicurus figured this out a long time ago, even before Jesus.

1. If God is willing but unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
2. If God is able but not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
3. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
4. If God is unable and unwilling to prevent evil, why call him God?

Why would I need to believe that? Couldn't I just be thankful for all I have and to show my gratitude give something back? You've created a very complicated answer for something that has a very simple answer.

So you believe in an omnipotent being who allows evil to exist so that the rest of us can show how "good" we are by giving up money we worked hard to earn, when he could just as easily snap his fingers and make these things go away.

Evil is not extant, Joe. Evil is the absence of good. Didn't I already explain this to you?

And sorry, before you direct me to read the bible or some such nonsense, the Bible is full of stories of God doing truly horrible things because the Hebrews weren't giving him his props!

I would never direct you to read the Bible, Joe. That would be a waste of everyone's time.

 

[ding]

I did. The John Jay Report.

Okay, doesn't say what you claim it says...

John Jay Report - Wikipedia

The John Jay report found that 81% of the victims were male; and of all the victims, 22% were younger than age 10, 51% were between the ages of 11 and 14, and 27% were between the ages of 15 and 17 years

So essentially, 19% of the victims were female. That blows your claim about 4600 being gay and 200 being straight pedophiles right out of the water.

Of course, a pedophile isn't gay or straight, he's a pedophile.

That's because you didn't look at the data, Joe.

 

[ding]

That would be too much of a coincidence.

Naw, man, it's your side that gets all hung up over sex.

Joe, feel free to have sex. Really. Go forth and multiply.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well, it's not really "for him" - mostly it's to provide for "The Church", the bride of Christ. The Gospel spreaders etc.

again, God could tell his followers to buy Microsoft and give that to the Church. It would seem to me that an omnipotent being would be a better financial planner.

I can't tap into the mind of God. You'd have to ask someone closer to Him....

sure you can read what Jesus said.

Actually, the bible was written several generations after the facts, minimum. So everything Jesus "said" was hearsay.

One could say the same thing about virtually any journalist's quoting an interviewee, or virtually anything taught in history class. So what?

 

[Taz]

Well, it's not really "for him" - mostly it's to provide for "The Church", the bride of Christ. The Gospel spreaders etc.

again, God could tell his followers to buy Microsoft and give that to the Church. It would seem to me that an omnipotent being would be a better financial planner.

I can't tap into the mind of God. You'd have to ask someone closer to Him....

sure you can read what Jesus said.

Actually, the bible was written several generations after the facts, minimum. So everything Jesus "said" was hearsay.

One could say the same thing about virtually any journalist's quoting an interviewee, or virtually anything taught in history class. So what?

Journalists quoting interviewees several generations after the facts? Um...no.

 

[Cecilie1200]

again, God could tell his followers to buy Microsoft and give that to the Church. It would seem to me that an omnipotent being would be a better financial planner.

I can't tap into the mind of God. You'd have to ask someone closer to Him....

sure you can read what Jesus said.

Actually, the bible was written several generations after the facts, minimum. So everything Jesus "said" was hearsay.

One could say the same thing about virtually any journalist's quoting an interviewee, or virtually anything taught in history class. So what?

Journalists quoting interviewees several generations after the facts? Um...no.

Historians quoting famous people several generations after the facts? Um . . . yes. Don't think for a second that you're doing any sort of effective job hiding your hatred behind a pretense of disinterested rationality. For some reason, leftists and atheists always go for that dodge, and they always suck at it.

Let's just cut to the chase. I believe in God. I believe God has told me to tithe. You don't believe in God. You desperately need to tell me how stupid you think I am for believing in God, let alone following the instructions of the God you desperately need to mock. I think you're pathetically pathological and more annoying than an incontinent Chihuahua on an antique rug, and there is literally nothing that could ever happen in this world that would EVER make me give a shit what you think of my beliefs. This thread is not titled "Dumbshits Spew Hatred of Religion". Your posts are 100% utterly unrelated to the topic, and 200% of no interest to anyone here.

There. The obligatory conversation your sort insists on having every time any topic regarding religion comes up has now been completed. You may go.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Carbon dating says otherwise, but you're welcome to believe in your fantasies.

So you have no point to make. Got it.

If you ever do have a point to make, make it, and link it to a credible website. That's how it's done here.

Here in the States, that these videos are credible. But you do not recognize that, why? Mary Schweitzer is well known in the science community. And if she says that the process of fossilization studies needs to be rewritten, and then it needs to be done.


Mary Higby Schweitzer is a paleontologist at North Carolina State University, who is known for leading the groups that discovered the remains of blood cells in dinosaur fossils and later discovered soft tissue remains in the Tyrannosaurus rex specimen MOR 1125,[1][2] as well as evidence that the specimen was a gravid female when she died.[3] More recently, Schweitzer's work has shown molecular similarities between Tyrannosaurus remains and chickens, providing further evidence of the bird-dinosaur connection.[4] Mary Higby Schweitzer - Wikipedia

I don't have time to sit through 5 videos so you can attempt to make a point. If you want to make a point, make it in writing and link to a credible source/website, not a video. Otherwise, go bother someone else.

I believe that you are the one that had started bothering me. But if you were studying to become a $ 15 an hour scientist, that you will know that carbon dating is not accurate.


Since 1947, scientists have reckoned the ages of many old objects by measuring the amounts of radioactive carbon they contain. New research shows, however, that some estimates based on carbon may have erred by thousands of years. And tell your boss to get a higher speed internet provider. I know that some countries are still using 1/2 G dial up. I do not know any placed in the States that still uses low speed dial up that makes it hard to stream online videos. Unless they are 20 or more people using the same modem.


.

It is too soon to know whether the discovery will seriously upset the estimated dates of events like the arrival of human beings in the Western Hemisphere, scientists said. But it is already clear that the carbon method of dating will have to be recalibrated and corrected in some cases. ERRORS ARE FEARED IN CARBON DATING

Radiocarbon dating is only used to date things as old as 50,000 years. It is not used to date dinosaur fossils. So you kind of fell on your face with that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I can't tap into the mind of God. You'd have to ask someone closer to Him....

sure you can read what Jesus said.

Actually, the bible was written several generations after the facts, minimum. So everything Jesus "said" was hearsay.

One could say the same thing about virtually any journalist's quoting an interviewee, or virtually anything taught in history class. So what?

Journalists quoting interviewees several generations after the facts? Um...no.

Historians quoting famous people several generations after the facts? Um . . . yes. Don't think for a second that you're doing any sort of effective job hiding your hatred behind a pretense of disinterested rationality. For some reason, leftists and atheists always go for that dodge, and they always suck at it.

Let's just cut to the chase. I believe in God. I believe God has told me to tithe. You don't believe in God. You desperately need to tell me how stupid you think I am for believing in God, let alone following the instructions of the God you desperately need to mock. I think you're pathetically pathological and more annoying than an incontinent Chihuahua on an antique rug, and there is literally nothing that could ever happen in this world that would EVER make me give a shit what you think of my beliefs. This thread is not titled "Dumbshits Spew Hatred of Religion". Your posts are 100% utterly unrelated to the topic, and 200% of no interest to anyone here.

There. The obligatory conversation your sort insists on having every time any topic regarding religion comes up has now been completed. You may go.

You have spent half of your time in this thread throwing a hissy and being an insulting prick, and the other half accusing everyone else of being bad people and haters. Jesus dude, go pray into a brown paper bag or something.