Question about “under the jurisdiction thereof” in the birthright citizenship debate

[Concerned American]

Hey bud. How'd your magic encyclopedia work out for ya today?

When the court rules, why don't you tell me. Til then just keep running your mouth, it will be all the easier to feed the crow to you.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Run around in your head until you're worn out. The SCOTUS will put the question to rest and you'll still be wearing your tin hat and howling at the moon.

 

[Concerned American]

Once again demonstrating that you are pitiably ignorant.

Your always shallow understandings get in the way. For example, you have confused what “jurisdiction” means since you weren’t even alive in the days in which that Amendment was approved by Congress. And in your always feeble mind, you imagine (wrongly) that a state having a claim over you for its own criminal jurisdiction concerns isn’t even remotely what the framers of the Amendment understood it to mean in its own context.

It dealt with another concept about which you are ignorant. “Allegiance.”

What makes a simpleton shitlib like you imagine that a baby born here — to a couple who have entered this country illegally — would consider himself as owing allegiance to this country?

You’re a goober, Lib.

Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment

What’s the citizenship status of the children of illegal aliens? That question has spurred quite a debate over the 14th Amendment lately, with the news that several states—including Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia, and South Carolina—may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to...

www.heritage.org

Thank you. Also, the framers were very cognizant of the very real threat of the Manchurian candidate, if you will, hence their specific requirement that candidates for the presidency be 'natural born CITIZENS'

 

[Concerned American]

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You bet.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

When the court rules, why don't you tell me. Til then just keep running your mouth, it will be all the easier to feed the crow to you.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Once again demonstrating that you are pitiably ignorant.

Your always shallow understandings get in the way. For example, you have confused what “jurisdiction” means since you weren’t even alive in the days in which that Amendment was approved by Congress. And in your always feeble mind, you imagine (wrongly) that a state having a claim over you for its own criminal jurisdiction concerns isn’t even remotely what the framers of the Amendment understood it to mean in its own context.

It dealt with another concept about which you are ignorant. “Allegiance.”

What makes a simpleton shitlib like you imagine that a baby born here — to a couple who have entered this country illegally — would consider himself as owing allegiance to this country?

You’re a goober, Lib.

Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment

What’s the citizenship status of the children of illegal aliens? That question has spurred quite a debate over the 14th Amendment lately, with the news that several states—including Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia, and South Carolina—may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to...

www.heritage.org

I notice he ran away from your post as you destroyed his irrational claims.

He likely didn't read it either, this is what he missed,

"Sen. Lyman Trumbull, a key figure in the adoption of the 14th Amendment, said that “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S. included not owing allegiance to any other country."

 

[BackAgain]

Exactly. That’s an exception in the law.
It’s always been. But you cannot point to an exception regarding people who are not children of diplomats. You just can’t win this one.

It doesn’t address the question (at least not in the manner in which the Amendment itself is phrased) at all.

Thus, it does invite different interpretations.

I don’t know how SCOTUS will decide this issue. But I do know what “allegiance” means. Evidently, Lib, you don’t.

 

[BackAgain]

Damn right you’ll take it. You have no choice message board lawyer.

And that applies to you, too.

Sucks to be you, lib.