Queens man gets four years for shooting a mugger

[Crepitus]

Why is the question.

Illegal gun? I wasn't there and don't have all the info the folks on the spot did.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Illegal gun? I wasn't there and don't have all the info the folks on the spot did.

Why search the apartment? This is malicious prosecution.

 

[Crepitus]

Why search the apartment? This is malicious prosecution.

Maybe he let slip there were more illegal guns there?

Like I said, I wasn't there and don't have all the information.

 

[OKTexas]

State of Nu Yawk constitution, whose gun laws are unconstitutional.

The second amendment trumps any State law. What do you fail to understand about "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."? And yes, SCOTUS has ruled that is an individual right. Not a privilege that has to be licensed.

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[excalibur]

Criminals are a cherished voting block for the Democrat Party's coalition of hate.

It is what Solzhenitsyn said Communists do. Allow criminals off easily, and go after their political rivals.

Yes, we are there now.

 

[OKTexas]

Most pleas in NYC (to any reduced crime, etc) are conditioned by the prosecutors to a “waiver of the right to appeal.”

This doesn’t always prevent the defendant from appealing all issues. But I suspect? here, that he won’t have his appeal (if he tries) entertained by the appellate courts.

It’s a case that sharply frames the problem: you cannot have any unlicensed handgun, but if he hadn’t been carrying that unlicensed gun he might have been killed, instead. And yes, a stab to the throat could easily cause death if it hit the right spot.

I didn't see where there were any reduced charges. Did I miss something?

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[excalibur]

This

 

[Woodznutz]

The second amendment trumps any State law. What do you fail to understand about "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."? And yes, SCOTUS has ruled that is an individual right. Not a privilege that has to be licensed.

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That's what I said, in so many words. The U.S. Constitution is meaningless to the anti's.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Man, 67, is jailed after shooting and killing mugger who robbed him

Charles Foehner, who hails from New York, appeared stone-faced as he arrived at Queens County Criminal Court Thursday morning for sentencing.

www.dailymail.co.uk

By NIKA SHAKHNAZAROVA, U.S. ASSISTANT EDITOR
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A 67-year-old man who fatally shot a would-be mugger during a robbery gone wrong has been jailed for four years.

Charles Foehner, from Queens, New York, appeared stone-faced as he arrived at Queens County Criminal Court Thursday morning for sentencing.

Foehner, a retired doorman, was walking to a parking garage outside his Queens apartment when the alleged mugger lunged at him with a sharp object about 2am on May 31, 2023.

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Comment:
In most states the mugging victim would probably walk.
NY seems to favor the criminal over the victim.
Society will eventually break down if crime gets out of hand.

In blue states, the powers that be want the decent people gone and the degenerates running the asylum.

 

[Polishprince]

Ratted him out on the shooting? You need to read the story and knock off the drugs! Do you think he shot a mugger and then walked home as if nothing happened?

Evidently that would have been the smart thing to do. Maybe the fellow did turn himself in, but that was stupid as he should have known they were going to try to nail him with something over this.

After all, the officials at the Queens DA official were going to be pissed seeing one of their muggers getting their comeuppance.

Walking away from the scene of the justifiable homicide would have given officials an opportunity just to label this as a "robbery gone wrong" and sweep the whole matter under the rug, instead of giving them an opportunity to go on a fishing expedition.

The DA's office was given the suspect, they were undoubtedly going to find a crime to nail him on.

 

[Hafar1014]

What sort of gun would be best for defense against muggers?

357 magnum snub nose revolver

 

[Hafar1014]

A couple of strikes to the throat with a pen can kill you just as dead as any gun or knife can.

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No it cant if you let your attacker get that close your dead too

 

[Hafar1014]

He was convicted of having an "arsenal" of unlicensed guns in his apartment. Not for shooting anyone.

Why can't you people ever tell the truth?

Very good point and it shoes how the article is also distorted in the title.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Evidently that would have been the smart thing to do. Maybe the fellow did turn himself in, but that was stupid as he should have known they were going to try to nail him with something over this.

After all, the officials at the Queens DA official were going to be pissed seeing one of their muggers getting their comeuppance.

Walking away from the scene of the justifiable homicide would have given officials an opportunity just to label this as a "robbery gone wrong" and sweep the whole matter under the rug, instead of giving them an opportunity to go on a fishing expedition.

The DA's office was given the suspect, they were undoubtedly going to find a crime to nail him on.

Your pessimism is exhilarating!

You are assuming way too much.

What if there were witnesses? You don't think the perps relatives and friends might wonder why he got shot?

Too sad really! The whole mess.

 

[Crepitus]

Very good point and it shoes how the article is also distorted in the title.

Daily mail is pretty good at that.

 

[OKTexas]

No it cant if you let your attacker get that close your dead too

You don't follow conversations very well do ya? Go back and read the posts I was replying to.

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[BackAgain]

I didn't see where there were any reduced charges. Did I miss something?

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It depends on what they initially charged. They distinguish between possession with intent to use and a more simple possession. I don’t know if they reduced anything. But the same consideration goes to a defendant who is facing more time than the offer.

If he accepts the offer to take advantage of a specific lower period of incarceration, the People can still condition their plea offer on the waiver of his right to appeal.

 

[OKTexas]

It depends on what they initially charged. They distinguish between possession with intent to use and a more simple possession. I don’t know if they reduced anything. But the same consideration goes to a defendant who is facing more time than the offer.

If he accepts the offer to take advantage of a specific lower period of incarceration, the People can still condition their plea offer on the waiver of his right to appeal.

There was no mention of a plea in the link it the OP, it turns out, he did plea to one count of weapons possession.

Senior citizen who saved himself from would-be mugger is heading to prison because of NYC’s ‘draconian’ laws

Foehner took the deal Thursday with the understanding that he’d be sentenced to four years in prison.

nypost.com

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[BackAgain]

There was no mention of a plea in the link it the OP, it turns out, he did plea to one count of weapons possession.

Senior citizen who saved himself from would-be mugger is heading to prison because of NYC’s ‘draconian’ laws

Foehner took the deal Thursday with the understanding that he’d be sentenced to four years in prison.

nypost.com

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He pled. And newspapers often are seriously ignorant and incomplete in their “reporting.”

If his plea wasn’t to a lesser count or to an almost minimum sentence, then he might still have a way to appeal. But appeals take TONS of time. He might be out before his appeal if ever heard.