Pyramids are impossible: Grok AI

You can attempt your mockery, if you wish.

It falls on deaf ears.
Your comments do rather ask for it.
The technology to build the pyramids to the exacting, incredibly minute standards we see today didn't exist then as explained by standard history.
It has been explained.

The ability to move incredibly heavy granite hundreds of miles didn't exist then as explained by modern history.
There are several quite rational theories as to how that was achieved.

How They Moved the 60-Ton Granite Blocks into the Great Pyramid

And here: How Did Ancient Egyptians Move Monumental Stones?

Sorry, pal. It doesn't add up.
It does but you prefer aliens and long-lost and unknown civilisations. In other words, the comforts of unreason
 
Your comments do rather ask for it.

It has been explained.


There are several quite rational theories as to how that was achieved.

How They Moved the 60-Ton Granite Blocks into the Great Pyramid

And here: How Did Ancient Egyptians Move Monumental Stones?


It does but you prefer aliens and long-lost and unknown civilisations. In other words, the comforts of unreason
Believe what you will.
You're wrong.
But you're welcome to indulge in fantasy. There's no law against it.
 
Believe what you will.
You're wrong.
But you're welcome to indulge in fantasy. There's no law against it.
I am not the one indulging in fantasy. That you evidently did not read the links I gave tells me all I need to know about your position on this matter.
 
I am not the one indulging in fantasy. That you evidently did not read the links I gave tells me all I need to know about your position on this matter.
I really couldn't care less what you think, pal.
I'm totally unimpressed. Go read some hyroglyphics or something.
 
I really couldn't care less what you think, pal.
I'm totally unimpressed. Go read some hyroglyphics or something.
Do tell us all what hyroglyphics might be? Or did you mean hieroglyphs?

It might be wise to check your spelling unless you wish to come across as a complete idiot.
 
Do tell us all what hyroglyphics might be? Or did you mean hieroglyphs?

It might be wise to check your spelling unless you wish to come across as a complete idiot.
You might want to not act like an asshole. But I see that's impossible for you.
 
Egyptologists are!

Because no other culture is responsible. Nor are present day Egyptians the same people as those of that ancient culture. Over the millennia there has been an influx of peoples from other regions of the world including Greece and Arabia.
It doesn´t matter. They are the Egyptians and are proud about the pyramids. And if you want to conduct an excavation or something similar there you need their approval. You even need an explanation for why no Pharao was found inside.
 
It doesn´t matter. They are the Egyptians and are proud about the pyramids. And if you want to conduct an excavation or something similar there you need their approval. You even need an explanation for why no Pharao was found inside.
And they jealousy guard those sites. There's a reason ...
 
It doesn´t matter. They are the Egyptians and are proud about the pyramids.
The structures and various other ancient sites are a good source for tourism.
And if you want to conduct an excavation or something similar there you need their approval.
That is true of all countries with ancient sites.
You even need an explanation for why no Pharao was found inside.
Sarcophagi are there but we know that tomb raiding was carried out even in ancient times. Thus the body may have been stolen for the artefacts buried with it. Or it may have been moved to prevent it being looted and was located somewhere else and has, so far, not been found.


Papyrus Mayer A is a legal document containing a portion of evidence at the trial of the tomb robbers at Thebes. It consists of a single sheet measuring 1430 mm x 425 mm, cut vertically into two portions, of length 795 and 635 mm respectively, and inscribed on both faces. In addition to the cutting of the papyrus into two pieces some trimming has been done along the edge, for on the verso there is a line of hieratic running across the top which has been so mutilated that the upper halves of its opening signs have been cut away. The two separate sheets of which the document now consists have been covered back and front with a semi-transparent paper (papier vegetal) that gives an appearance of brown varnish. Following the Second World War an attempt was made to remove the paper covering from one sheet. This process was not successful and now one sheet is now torn and extremely fragile; with the other sheet just having one mark where the paper has been removed. Some infrared photography was done in September 2006. The date recorded within the text corresponds to years 19 and 20 of Ramesses XI Menmaatre-setpenptah (ruled about 1103/1099-1070/1069 BC). The papyrus consists of a series of short reports into the examination of the accused in two separate series of thefts, one from certain gilded portable shrines, the other from various tombs in the royal necropolis. Earlier stages of the investigation into the robberies in the necropolis, held before the same judges, are given in a papyrus in the British Museum (pap. BM10052) written in the same hand and style.


And The British Museum Images
 
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The structures and various other ancient sites are a good source for tourism.
Even more when aliens made them.


That is true of all countries with ancient sites.
Few of them have wild stories twining around them.


Sarcophagi are there but we know that tomb raiding was carried out even in ancient times. Thus the body may have been stolen for the artefacts buried with it. Or it may have been moved to prevent it being looted and was located somewhere else and has, so far, not been found.


Papyrus Mayer A is a legal document containing a portion of evidence at the trial of the tomb robbers at Thebes. It consists of a single sheet measuring 1430 mm x 425 mm, cut vertically into two portions, of length 795 and 635 mm respectively, and inscribed on both faces. In addition to the cutting of the papyrus into two pieces some trimming has been done along the edge, for on the verso there is a line of hieratic running across the top which has been so mutilated that the upper halves of its opening signs have been cut away. The two separate sheets of which the document now consists have been covered back and front with a semi-transparent paper (papier vegetal) that gives an appearance of brown varnish. Following the Second World War an attempt was made to remove the paper covering from one sheet. This process was not successful and now one sheet is now torn and extremely fragile; with the other sheet just having one mark where the paper has been removed. Some infrared photography was done in September 2006. The date recorded within the text corresponds to years 19 and 20 of Ramesses XI Menmaatre-setpenptah (ruled about 1103/1099-1070/1069 BC). The papyrus consists of a series of short reports into the examination of the accused in two separate series of thefts, one from certain gilded portable shrines, the other from various tombs in the royal necropolis. Earlier stages of the investigation into the robberies in the necropolis, held before the same judges, are given in a papyrus in the British Museum (pap. BM10052) written in the same hand and style.


And The British Museum Images
I know the explanations. Robbers can´t go to the Pharao´s grave and steal his body, though. And they get no buyer.
 
Even more when aliens made them.
Oh lord! Do you really believe that nonsense?
Few of them have wild stories twining around them.
The pyramids were remarked upon as ancient wonders by Herodotus - I assume you have heard of him?
I know the explanations. Robbers can´t go to the Pharao´s grave and steal his body, though. And they get no buyer.
The artefacts would have been of more interest. If the body was looted it was likely dumped somewhere.

The interesting thing about those two papyri is that despite the religious significance of the Pharoah and his/her position it would seem that that reverence did not extend to all those within the lower strata of society.
 
Oh lord! Do you really believe that nonsense?
I did not say that. I said such stories will boost tourism. But however, since we do exist, how can you rule out the existence of other human like civilizations out there?

The pyramids were remarked upon as ancient wonders by Herodotus - I assume you have heard of him?
I looked it up. I guess his stuff is based on hearsay:

So he went to the Egyptians and that is what they told him:


The artefacts would have been of more interest. If the body was looted it was likely dumped somewhere.

The interesting thing about those two papyri is that despite the religious significance of the Pharoah and his/her position it would seem that that reverence did not extend to all those within the lower strata of society.
Sure, agreed. But you will still have to explain why nobody cared.
 
Sure, agreed. But you will still have to explain why nobody cared.
Plenty did care.

And if you read Herodotus here: An Account of Egypt, by Herodotus

He mentions:

On the pyramid it is declared in Egyptian writing how much was spent on radishes and onions and leeks for the workmen, and if I rightly remember that which the interpreter said in reading to me this inscription, a sum of one thousand six hundred talents of silver was spent and if this is so, how much besides is likely to have been expended upon the iron with which they worked, and upon bread and clothing for the workmen.
Of course Herodotus did not know that when these monuments were constructed the Egyptians had no iron.

You can read more on their use of copper and bronze tools here The Use of Copper and Bronze Tools in Pyramid Building Processes
 
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