Putin's Bombers Could Devastate Ukraine But He's Holding Back. Here's Why

[The Sage of Main Street]

What verified war crimes? Remember Ukrainians are not famous for their honesty.

Geneva Is Haunted by the Ghosts of Our Fighting Men

The only war crime occurs when American lives are wasted because of suicidal pacifist Rules of Engagement.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Russia wants the Ukraine back, where it has been for a thousand years.

No, putin the evil maniac does.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You haven't seen nothing yet.
Putin be serious.

Our Information Highway Is As Stupid As Virgins Being Marriage Counselors

Americans are lied to about war by rich sissyboys who weaseled out of fighting the Communists.

 

[Moonglow]

Our Information Highway Is As Stupid As Virgins Being Marriage Counselors

Americans are lied to about war by rich sissyboys who weaseled out of fighting the Communists.

Damn that Trump!

 

[Lastamender]

holy crap

Problem, drama queen?

 

[Lastamender]

Maybe he's waiting for his crack troops to fight the "Nazis"....

When is Antifa deploying????

Marvelous idea. BLM can form their own battalion.

 

[Lesh]

He's telling you that Russia is going to prevail.

Jo

He's actually saying that Russia is looking for an out

 

[Mac1958]

Right, that's what I was thinking.
So putins plan is not to turn all of Ukraine into a pile of rubble.
Yeah, thanks professor, we kind of figured that

From some of the posts here, it looks like some of them are looking for any excuse to pat him on the back for it.

I wish I could say that was surprising.

 

[Mac1958]

yeah, the Russian apologist list just keeps getting longer and longer

And they become furious when they're pointed out.

 

[Mac1958]

Problem, drama queen?

No. I'm not surprised by anything at this point. Just reminded.

 

[Vastator]

Contra the Western and Ukrainian driven propaganda that is daily fed to people.

The author is a highly regarded expert.

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As destructive as the Ukraine war is, Russia is causing less damage and killing fewer civilians than it could, U.S. intelligence experts say.​

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"The destruction is massive," a senior analyst working at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) tells Newsweek, "especially when compared with what Europeans and Americans are used to seeing."​

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But, the analyst says, the damage associated with a contested ground war involving peer opponents shouldn't blind people to what is really happening. (The analyst requested anonymity in order to speak about classified matters.) "The heart of Kyiv has barely been touched. And almost all of the long-range strikes have been aimed at military targets."​

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"We need to understand Russia's actual conduct," says a retired Air Force officer, a lawyer by training who has been involved in approving targets for U.S. fights in Iraq and Afghanistan. The officer currently works as an analyst with a large military contractor advising the Pentagon and was granted anonymity in order to speak candidly.​

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"If we merely convince ourselves that Russia is bombing indiscriminately, or [that] it is failing to inflict more harm because its personnel are not up to the task or because it is technically inept, then we are not seeing the real conflict."​

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In the analyst's view, though the war has led to unprecedented destruction in the south and east, the Russian military has actually been showing restraint in its long-range attacks.​

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MSN

I've already explained this to the board numerous times... Putin is n ot trying to destroy Ukraine. He's trying to capture as much of it as possible, as intact as possible. There's a reason that a majority of the country still has most of its infrastructure intact. Russia has a very different agenda, and martial philosophy than the West. They aren't running a two week bombing campaign, leveling the place, destroying all infrastructure, thus making it safer to send in ground troops. That's the American way of conducting war.
Russia is willing to suffer casualties in its effort to capture Ukraine with as little damage as possible. Why? Because Russia will have to rebuild everything they destroy, and will have to have a governanable populace when it's over. You cannot achieve this through "shock, and awe".

 

[SweetSue92]

I've already explained this to the board numerous times... Putin is n ot trying to destroy Ukraine. He's trying to capture as much of it as possible, as intact as possible. There's a reason that a majority of the country still has most of its infrastructure intact. Russia has a very different agenda, and martial philosophy than the West. They aren't running a two week bombing campaign, leveling the place, destroying all infrastructure, thus making it safer to send in ground troops. That's the American way of conducting war.
Russia is willing to suffer casualties in its effort to capture Ukraine with as little damage as possible. Why? Because Russia will have to rebuild everything they destroy, and will have to have a governanable populace when it's over. You cannot achieve this through "shock, and awe".

Doesn't look like they're doing so great on the "governable population" front, not to mention how ticked off people will be at all the Russian troops Putin had killed

 

[Vastator]

Doesn't look like they're doing so great on the "governable population" front, not to mention how ticked off people will be at all the Russian troops Putin had killed

They've already allowed millions of people to get out of the line of fire, and still allow them to do so daily. That has already lowered the potential for needless civilian casualties. Now that the Ukrainians are boxed into the cities, and continue to fight the Russians; Russian responses invariably run the risk of collateral damage. Such is war. It's unrealist to expect the Russians to come under fire, and not fire back.

 

[Mac1958]

It's unrealist to expect the Russians to come under fire, and not fire back.

Those poor Russians. They didn't do nuffin' and somebody shot at them.

 

[Vastator]

Those poor Russians. They didn't do nuffin' and somebody shot at them.

It is, what it is. Such is war.

 

[Mac1958]

It is, what it is. Such is war.

Hey, we can fix that real quick.

Pack up your shit, turn around, and get out.

 

[Vastator]

Hey, we can fix that real quick.

Pack up your shit, turn around, and get out.

Not happenin' snowflake. Simmer down. This is Europe's war. Let em have it. If you're so emotionally invested in it; perhaps you're the one who should be packing. Ukraine is accepting applications for would-be body bag fillers...

 

[Mac1958]

Not happenin' snowflake. Simmer down. This is Europe's war. Let em have it. If you're so emotionally invested in it; perhaps you're the one who should be packing. Ukraine is accepting applications for would-be body bag fillers...

Yeah, I didn't think so.

 

[Lesh]

I've already explained this to the board numerous times... Putin is n ot trying to destroy Ukraine. He's trying to capture as much of it as possible, as intact as possible. There's a reason that a majority of the country still has most of its infrastructure intact. Russia has a very different agenda, and martial philosophy than the West. They aren't running a two week bombing campaign, leveling the place, destroying all infrastructure, thus making it safer to send in ground troops. That's the American way of conducting war.
Russia is willing to suffer casualties in its effort to capture Ukraine with as little damage as possible. Why? Because Russia will have to rebuild everything they destroy, and will have to have a governanable populace when it's over. You cannot achieve this through "shock, and awe".

How do you account for Mariupol then?

 

[bendog]

Contra the Western and Ukrainian driven propaganda that is daily fed to people.

The author is a highly regarded expert.

​

As destructive as the Ukraine war is, Russia is causing less damage and killing fewer civilians than it could, U.S. intelligence experts say.​

​

...​

​

​

​

"The destruction is massive," a senior analyst working at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) tells Newsweek, "especially when compared with what Europeans and Americans are used to seeing."​

​

But, the analyst says, the damage associated with a contested ground war involving peer opponents shouldn't blind people to what is really happening. (The analyst requested anonymity in order to speak about classified matters.) "The heart of Kyiv has barely been touched. And almost all of the long-range strikes have been aimed at military targets."​

​

...​

​

"We need to understand Russia's actual conduct," says a retired Air Force officer, a lawyer by training who has been involved in approving targets for U.S. fights in Iraq and Afghanistan. The officer currently works as an analyst with a large military contractor advising the Pentagon and was granted anonymity in order to speak candidly.​

​

"If we merely convince ourselves that Russia is bombing indiscriminately, or [that] it is failing to inflict more harm because its personnel are not up to the task or because it is technically inept, then we are not seeing the real conflict."​

​

In the analyst's view, though the war has led to unprecedented destruction in the south and east, the Russian military has actually been showing restraint in its long-range attacks.​

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MSN

It's true, he really could have killed even more in his war of aggression to consolidate Russian land claims.