Putin Gives Obama / Kerry The Finger....Again

[paulitician]

But getting back to killing civilians. Seriously, how can the U.S. preach to others about that? No other nation has even come close to slaughtering as many civilians as the U.S. has the last 30yrs or so. That's the ugly truth America. Wake the fluck up.

 

[irosie91]

I did not refer to isolationism as a "BOGEYMAN"------I merely noted that it was the
position of the people in the USA who advocated a "leave adolf to his own whims" policy. It delayed the inevitable conflict-----which probably could have
been amerliorated by EARLIER ACTION. IMHO-----world war III has already begun------a far more active role than we have at present is INEVITABLE-----the US did not cause it-------the US is slow in stopping it

Hitler's dead. Has been for a very long time. He's no excuse for this absurd constant meddling all over the world.

somehow you excuse EXTENSIVE meddling by -----RUSSIAN IMPERIALISTS---
and now IRANIAN IMPERIALISTS -----and a rapidly developing MEDDLING
by CHINESE IMPERIALISTS. I cited ADOLF because he was ----in the 1930s
engaging in VERY EXTENSIVE IMPERIALIST MEDDLING whilst those of your ilk did the TWIDDLE THE THUMBS thing

Why does that scare you so much? What's Russia and China gonna do that frightens you so much? The U.S. has plenty of money and has the most powerful military on earth. So let em meddle. We've done enough of it. Time to come home and take care of our own.

what makes you think I IS SCARED-------I am safe------I am concerned about the
rest of the Planet. Your meddling pal-------ADOLF ----was probably no real threat to the Hillbillies of APPALACHIA either

So what do you think Russia and China are gonna do to destroy the world? I'm willing to listen. Go for it.

easy------wrap your minibrain around this concept------Russia, Iran, Syria----and whole lot of Shiite muslims around the world = THE AXIS ALLIANCE,
Right now -----Yemen = DAS SUDENTENLAND and Saudi Arabia is FRANCE.

you want to ignore it---------ok------sit tight and pay attention to that which is
going to happen within the next two years
.

 

[Stratford57]

But getting back to killing civilians. Seriously, how can the U.S. preach to others about that? No other nation has even come close to slaughtering as many civilians as the U.S. has the last 30yrs or so. That's the ugly truth America. Wake the fluck up.

Paulitician, no matter how solid your arguments are, those libtards will never agree with them: too dumb and seriously brainwashed to see the truth.

Henry Kissinger visited Putin this week and wrote an article. He says: "Russia is NO threat to US"

Today threats more frequently arise from the disintegration of state power and the growing number of ungoverned territories. This spreading power vacuum cannot be dealt with by any state, no matter how powerful, on an exclusively national basis. It requires sustained cooperation between the United States and Russia, and other major powers.

Regarding Syria, it is clear that the local and regional factions cannot find a solution on their own. Compatible U.S.-Russian efforts coordinated with other major powers could create a pattern for peaceful solutions in the Middle East and perhaps elsewhere.

What challenges do the changes pose to both Russian and American national interests? How do we reconcile the very different concepts of world order that have evolved in Russia and the United States—and in other major powers—on the basis of historical experience? The goal should be to develop a strategic concept for U.S.-Russian relations within which the points of contention may be managed.

Kissinger’s Vision for U.S.-Russia Relations

 

[irosie91]

But getting back to killing civilians. Seriously, how can the U.S. preach to others about that? No other nation has even come close to slaughtering as many civilians as the U.S. has the last 30yrs or so. That's the ugly truth America. Wake the fluck up.

what makes the history WINDOW OF KILLING------30 years. Why not cite the past
100 years?

 

[irosie91]

Henry Kissinger visited Putin this week and wrote an article. He says: "Russia is NO threat to US"
Today threats more frequently arise from the disintegration of state power and the growing number of ungoverned territories. This spreading power vacuum cannot be dealt with by any state, no matter how powerful, on an exclusively national basis. It requires sustained cooperation between the United States and Russia, and other major powers.

Regarding Syria, it is clear that the local and regional factions cannot find a solution on their own. Compatible U.S.-Russian efforts coordinated with other major powers could create a pattern for peaceful solutions in the Middle East and perhaps elsewhere.

What challenges do the changes pose to both Russian and American national interests? How do we reconcile the very different concepts of world order that have evolved in Russia and the United States—and in other major powers—on the basis of historical experience? The goal should be to develop a strategic concept for U.S.-Russian relations within which the points of contention may be managed.

Kissinger’s Vision for U.S.-Russia Relations

Kissinger would be right IF the US and RUSSIA shared his vision-----
Russia does not------it is in IMPERIALIST MODE

 

[paulitician]

Hitler's dead. Has been for a very long time. He's no excuse for this absurd constant meddling all over the world.

somehow you excuse EXTENSIVE meddling by -----RUSSIAN IMPERIALISTS---
and now IRANIAN IMPERIALISTS -----and a rapidly developing MEDDLING
by CHINESE IMPERIALISTS. I cited ADOLF because he was ----in the 1930s
engaging in VERY EXTENSIVE IMPERIALIST MEDDLING whilst those of your ilk did the TWIDDLE THE THUMBS thing

Why does that scare you so much? What's Russia and China gonna do that frightens you so much? The U.S. has plenty of money and has the most powerful military on earth. So let em meddle. We've done enough of it. Time to come home and take care of our own.

what makes you think I IS SCARED-------I am safe------I am concerned about the
rest of the Planet. Your meddling pal-------ADOLF ----was probably no real threat to the Hillbillies of APPALACHIA either

So what do you think Russia and China are gonna do to destroy the world? I'm willing to listen. Go for it.

easy------wrap your minibrain around this concept------Russia, Iran, Syria----and whole lot of Shiite muslims around the world = THE AXIS ALLIANCE,
Right now -----Yemen = DAS SUDENTENLAND and Saudi Arabia is FRANCE.

you want to ignore it---------ok------sit tight and pay attention to that which is
going to happen within the next two years
.

Uh yeah, we're the cause of the bloody Sunni/Shiite war we're seeing today. The result of more horrific meddling. And guess what? Let Russia and China meddle away in the Middle East. That's their problem. They'll regret it at some point. But we've done enough of it. We've made things so much wore over there. Time to disengage.

 

[paulitician]

Henry Kissinger visited Putin this week and wrote an article. He says: "Russia is NO threat to US"
Today threats more frequently arise from the disintegration of state power and the growing number of ungoverned territories. This spreading power vacuum cannot be dealt with by any state, no matter how powerful, on an exclusively national basis. It requires sustained cooperation between the United States and Russia, and other major powers.

Regarding Syria, it is clear that the local and regional factions cannot find a solution on their own. Compatible U.S.-Russian efforts coordinated with other major powers could create a pattern for peaceful solutions in the Middle East and perhaps elsewhere.

What challenges do the changes pose to both Russian and American national interests? How do we reconcile the very different concepts of world order that have evolved in Russia and the United States—and in other major powers—on the basis of historical experience? The goal should be to develop a strategic concept for U.S.-Russian relations within which the points of contention may be managed.

Kissinger’s Vision for U.S.-Russia Relations

Kissinger would be right IF the US and RUSSIA shared his vision-----
Russia does not------it is in IMPERIALIST MODE

To hell with Kissinger. He's one evil S.O.B. Leave it up to evil bastards like him, and we'll be seeing WWIII in no time.

 

[paulitician]

But getting back to killing civilians. Seriously, how can the U.S. preach to others about that? No other nation has even come close to slaughtering as many civilians as the U.S. has the last 30yrs or so. That's the ugly truth America. Wake the fluck up.

what makes the history WINDOW OF KILLING------30 years. Why not cite the past
100 years?

Most Americans ignore that ugly reality. But the numbers of civilians slaughtered by their Government is incredibly shocking. Just look at the last 30yrs or so alone. No other nation on earth can come close to the number of civilians slaughtered by the U.S. Government.

 

[irosie91]

But getting back to killing civilians. Seriously, how can the U.S. preach to others about that? No other nation has even come close to slaughtering as many civilians as the U.S. has the last 30yrs or so. That's the ugly truth America. Wake the fluck up.

what makes the history WINDOW OF KILLING------30 years. Why not cite the past
100 years?

Most Americans ignore that ugly reality. But the numbers of civilians slaughtered by their Government is incredibly shocking. Just look at the last 30yrs or so alone. No other nation on earth can come close to the number of civilians slaughtered by the U.S. Government.

what ugly reality?---------propagandists gerrymander windows of time----or place
or any CONVENIENT parameter

 

[defcon4]

But getting back to killing civilians. Seriously, how can the U.S. preach to others about that? No other nation has even come close to slaughtering as many civilians as the U.S. has the last 30yrs or so. That's the ugly truth America. Wake the fluck up.

Paulitician, no matter how solid your arguments are, those libtards will never agree with them: too dumb and seriously brainwashed to see the truth.

Henry Kissinger visited Putin this week and wrote an article. He says: "Russia is NO threat to US"

Today threats more frequently arise from the disintegration of state power and the growing number of ungoverned territories. This spreading power vacuum cannot be dealt with by any state, no matter how powerful, on an exclusively national basis. It requires sustained cooperation between the United States and Russia, and other major powers.

Regarding Syria, it is clear that the local and regional factions cannot find a solution on their own. Compatible U.S.-Russian efforts coordinated with other major powers could create a pattern for peaceful solutions in the Middle East and perhaps elsewhere.

What challenges do the changes pose to both Russian and American national interests? How do we reconcile the very different concepts of world order that have evolved in Russia and the United States—and in other major powers—on the basis of historical experience? The goal should be to develop a strategic concept for U.S.-Russian relations within which the points of contention may be managed.

Kissinger’s Vision for U.S.-Russia Relations

Actually it is high time to scrap NATO and build a U.S.-Russian alliance to counter balance the China threat.

 

[irosie91]

But getting back to killing civilians. Seriously, how can the U.S. preach to others about that? No other nation has even come close to slaughtering as many civilians as the U.S. has the last 30yrs or so. That's the ugly truth America. Wake the fluck up.

Paulitician, no matter how solid your arguments are, those libtards will never agree with them: too dumb and seriously brainwashed to see the truth.

Henry Kissinger visited Putin this week and wrote an article. He says: "Russia is NO threat to US"

Today threats more frequently arise from the disintegration of state power and the growing number of ungoverned territories. This spreading power vacuum cannot be dealt with by any state, no matter how powerful, on an exclusively national basis. It requires sustained cooperation between the United States and Russia, and other major powers.

Regarding Syria, it is clear that the local and regional factions cannot find a solution on their own. Compatible U.S.-Russian efforts coordinated with other major powers could create a pattern for peaceful solutions in the Middle East and perhaps elsewhere.

What challenges do the changes pose to both Russian and American national interests? How do we reconcile the very different concepts of world order that have evolved in Russia and the United States—and in other major powers—on the basis of historical experience? The goal should be to develop a strategic concept for U.S.-Russian relations within which the points of contention may be managed.

Kissinger’s Vision for U.S.-Russia Relations

Actually it is high time to scrap NATO and build a U.S.-Russian alliance to counter balance the China threat.

right now----Russia is allied with China in a very big IMPERIALIST ADVENTURE. I could imagine why some people see RUSSIA as
a kinda kin to people of the USA------sorta "culturally"-----but the fact is---
we AIN'T. It took a while for the people of the US to get over that
"they're just like us"-----feeling about Germany too

 

[Stratford57]

Actually it is high time to scrap NATO and build a U.S.-Russian alliance to counter balance the China threat.

I'm not sure about China threat. But US/Russian cooperation would help both countries and significantly ease confrontation in the world. Watch how efficiently American astronauts and Russian cosmonauts work together for so many years! That could be a great example for the politicians. Unfortunately, no hopes till the current clown in the White House is gone...

 

[irosie91]

Actually it is high time to scrap NATO and build a U.S.-Russian alliance to counter balance the China threat.

I'm not sure about China threat. But US/Russian cooperation would help both countries and significantly ease up confrontation in the world. Watch how efficiently American astronauts and Russian cosmonauts work together! That could be a great example for the politicians. Unfortunately, no hopes till the current clown in the White House is gone...

no hope until Russia gives up the IMPERIALISM mania-------that phenomenon may
be a PUTIN thing

 

[Stratford57]

Actually it is high time to scrap NATO and build a U.S.-Russian alliance to counter balance the China threat.

I'm not sure about China threat. But US/Russian cooperation would help both countries and significantly ease up confrontation in the world. Watch how efficiently American astronauts and Russian cosmonauts work together! That could be a great example for the politicians. Unfortunately, no hopes till the current clown in the White House is gone...

no hope until Russia gives up the IMPERIALISM mania-------that phenomenon may
be a PUTIN thing

No hopes for somebody like you, Rosie, for sure. People with such chicken brain are hopeless, period.

 

[paulitician]

But getting back to killing civilians. Seriously, how can the U.S. preach to others about that? No other nation has even come close to slaughtering as many civilians as the U.S. has the last 30yrs or so. That's the ugly truth America. Wake the fluck up.

Paulitician, no matter how solid your arguments are, those libtards will never agree with them: too dumb and seriously brainwashed to see the truth.

Henry Kissinger visited Putin this week and wrote an article. He says: "Russia is NO threat to US"

Today threats more frequently arise from the disintegration of state power and the growing number of ungoverned territories. This spreading power vacuum cannot be dealt with by any state, no matter how powerful, on an exclusively national basis. It requires sustained cooperation between the United States and Russia, and other major powers.

Regarding Syria, it is clear that the local and regional factions cannot find a solution on their own. Compatible U.S.-Russian efforts coordinated with other major powers could create a pattern for peaceful solutions in the Middle East and perhaps elsewhere.

What challenges do the changes pose to both Russian and American national interests? How do we reconcile the very different concepts of world order that have evolved in Russia and the United States—and in other major powers—on the basis of historical experience? The goal should be to develop a strategic concept for U.S.-Russian relations within which the points of contention may be managed.

Kissinger’s Vision for U.S.-Russia Relations

Actually it is high time to scrap NATO and build a U.S.-Russian alliance to counter balance the China threat.

I think it's too late for that. Looks like the West wants another Cold War. It's looking more like a Russia-China alliance is gonna happen instead.

 

[defcon4]

Actually it is high time to scrap NATO and build a U.S.-Russian alliance to counter balance the China threat.

I'm not sure about China threat. But US/Russian cooperation would help both countries and significantly ease up confrontation in the world. Watch how efficiently American astronauts and Russian cosmonauts work together! That could be a great example for the politicians. Unfortunately, not with the current clown in the White House....

Don't underestimate China's imperialistic tendencies.
Can somebody tell me what's the U.S. interest in keeping NATO afloat? the EU has appr. 500 million inhabitants, Russia has Appr. 300 million. Both are highly developed militarily. EU should stand for itself. What do we get from the EU? Nothing. We just spend a lot on NATO. What could we get from a Russian trade? Since Russia has vast untapped natural resources (attractive for China, no?) we both could benefit tremendously.

 

[alpine]

Actually it is high time to scrap NATO and build a U.S.-Russian alliance to counter balance the China threat.

I'm not sure about China threat. But US/Russian cooperation would help both countries and significantly ease up confrontation in the world. Watch how efficiently American astronauts and Russian cosmonauts work together! That could be a great example for the politicians. Unfortunately, not with the current clown in the White House....

Don't underestimate China's imperialistic tendencies.
Can somebody tell me what's the U.S. interest in keeping NATO afloat? the EU has appr. 500 million inhabitants, Russia has Appr. 300 million. Both are highly developed militarily. EU should stand for itself. What do we get from the EU? Nothing. We just spend a lot on NATO. What could we get from a Russian trade? Since Russia has vast untapped natural resources (attractive for China, no?) we both could benefit tremendously.

Russia has 300 million of what exactly?

Russia has a declining population of 140mil, which only 100 mil of being ethnically Russian.

If you don't have an extensive understanding and acceptance of citizenship by your people, like the US has, thats a very tough spot to be in. And Russia is no where close to that.

Europe has been trying to get Russia down for a long time. And US has been the biggest ally. The price of this game is the connection between the old worlds nerve center(western europe) and the one of the power center(central asia).

If US can get a hold of that, the US corporation will benefit from this vastly. They got pretty close with Nabucco (check what the names means), but the project was dead once Russia invaded Georgia and Crimea.

But europeans did not give up. Iranian deal is the indication of europeans starting the 2nd half of this game...

As for China; Russia tried to solicit her natural resources to China, but Chinese are too smart for that. Because they know Russia is merely selling her own resources, but just redistributing the central asias turkic gas they acquire for dirt cheap. So China is rather making a move to that direction through. They are after Afghanistan. That would be a huge step for China, because that will get them right next door to the 50% of worlds oil and natural gas resources.

 

[candycorn]

JS, this isn't about Syria, as I believe you actually know. This is about EGO, POWER, and embarrassing the hell out of your opponent every chance you get. Leaders who have mutual respect do not try to 'pants' the other in public, but Putin has done so and continues to do so every chance he gets to Obama and Kerry.

Iran's huge public display of showing the pictures and numerous videos of captured US sailors, of giving his military members involved medals, etc is the same thing. We aren't going to war over that, but it's embarrassing as hell.

NO ONE has respect for this country anymore, not even our allies.

What should Obama do?

 

[easyt65]

Go away... No way he can earn the world's respect with the time he has left. After things like his 'Red Line' debacle everyone knows he has no 'bite' and does not mean what he says. As I have told my kids, 'Credibility is hard-earned over time while lost in the blink of an eye'.

 

[defcon4]

Russia has 300 million of what exactly?

My mistake.. I recalled the number from the time of U.S.S.R.