Purpose of sex

[Midnight FM]

This is my general view on sex:

Sex and reproduction are not the purpose of life. Cavemen were more than capable of reproducing, but if everyone believed that was the only purpose of life, we wouldn't have modern civilization. Sex and reproduction may play a role in most people's lives, but the purpose of life is far more nuanced than that.

While the primary biological function of sex is reproduction, it isn't the only purpose of sex, and intimacy is arguably a superior purpose. While biological reproduction serves a survival function, the reality is that it is rare for people in the modern world to have to reproduce in order to survive, and most people who decide to have children don't do so in order to "perpetuate the human race" - they do so for more nuanced personal reasons.

So in essence, sex is something that people do simply because they're biologically hardwired to, but it doesn't always serve a specific purpose (such as in the case of people who have unplanned children), and if sex results in children being born into less-than-ideal circumstances, there can be consequences. And while the human race will always need some people to be having children in order to perpetuate itself, theoretically, many people could choose not to have children, and the human race would still continue to survive. A downsize in population wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, just as how people in the developed world are already having fewer children than they did in more primitive times where factors such as life expectancy were lower and rates of infant mortality were higher.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This is my general view on sex:

Sex and reproduction are not the purpose of life. Cavemen were more than capable of reproducing, but if everyone believed that was the only purpose of life, we wouldn't have modern civilization. Sex and reproduction may play a role in most people's lives, but the purpose of life is far more nuanced than that.

While the primary biological function of sex is reproduction, it isn't the only purpose of sex, and intimacy is arguably a superior purpose. While biological reproduction serves a survival function, the reality is that it is rare for people in the modern world to have to reproduce in order to survive, and most people who decide to have children don't do so in order to "perpetuate the human race" - they do so for more nuanced personal reasons.

Why do you think there's a purpose to life?

At the end of the day, whether there is life or there isn't, it doesn't matter, at least without our universe. Perhaps life makes a difference outside of our universe, like, we're a battery for something somewhere much larger, or just an atom within a huge universe, even then, is there really a purpose?

 

[Midnight FM]

Why do you think there's a purpose to life?

At the end of the day, whether there is life or there isn't, it doesn't matter, at least without our universe. Perhaps life makes a difference outside of our universe, like, we're a battery for something somewhere much larger, or just an atom within a huge universe, even then, is there really a purpose?

If there's no purpose to life, then people can do whatever they want, or nothing at all. Including raping and murdering if that suits their fancy.

Most people, even atheists, say that raping and murdering would be abhorrent, so I would argue this proves that there is a purpose to life, and that it involves some humanistic consideration for one's fellow man.

 

[Moonglow]

If there's no purpose to life, then people can do whatever they want, or nothing at all. Including raping and murdering if that suits their fancy.

Most people, even atheists, say that raping and murdering would be abhorrent, so I would argue this proves that there is a purpose to life, and that it involves some humanistic consideration for one's fellow man.

yer funny.

 

[frigidweirdo]

If there's no purpose to life, then people can do whatever they want, or nothing at all. Including raping and murdering if that suits their fancy.

Most people, even atheists, say that raping and murdering would be abhorrent, so I would argue this proves that there is a purpose to life, and that it involves some humanistic consideration for one's fellow man.

Not at all.

You're mixing purpose with power.

We, as humans, decide what is right and wrong, and people with power will then enforce those as laws. This happened back in the days of cavemen, through to the modern era.

Humans are manipulated into being as they are with drugs, we want sex because it produces drugs that make us feel good, we like sugar (usually) because it makes us feel good.

The same with thought processes. We think in a certain way because of how our bodies and brains function, rather than us actually being free to think however we like.

Purpose is "there's a reason for all of this". What purpose is there? We CREATE a purpose for ourselves, that's a survival technique, otherwise we'd all be killing ourselves over the pointlessness of life.

But people who REALLY THINK, will see that there is no point to any of this. We live, we die. So what?

 

[Midnight FM]

Not at all.

You're mixing purpose with power.

We, as humans, decide what is right and wrong, and people with power will then enforce those as laws. This happened back in the days of cavemen, through to the modern era.

No, we decide what to allow and what to prohibit, not whether or not the thing is "actually" right or "actually" wrong.

Humans are manipulated into being as they are with drugs, we want sex because it produces drugs that make us feel good, we like sugar (usually) because it makes us feel good.

The same with thought processes. We think in a certain way because of how our bodies and brains function, rather than us actually being free to think however we like.

Purpose is "there's a reason for all of this". What purpose is there? We CREATE a purpose for ourselves, that's a survival technique, otherwise we'd all be killing ourselves over the pointlessness of life.

But people who REALLY THINK, will see that there is no point to any of this. We live, we die. So what?

Then you're implying that survival is a purpose of life. If there is no purpose, then we might as well just die off.

 

[Muhammed]

Why do you think there's a purpose to life?

At the end of the day, whether there is life or there isn't, it doesn't matter, at least without our universe. Perhaps life makes a difference outside of our universe, like, we're a battery for something somewhere much larger, or just an atom within a huge universe, even then, is there really a purpose?

A very special purpose.

 

[frigidweirdo]

No, we decide what to allow and what to prohibit, not whether or not the thing is "actually" right or "actually" wrong.


Then you're implying that survival is a purpose of life. If there is no purpose, then we might as well just die off.

I don't understand your first sentence.

Murder, for example, we decide it's wrong, and then people enforce this as a law.

No, survival is not the purpose of life. We, as living beings, try and survive, it's built into us. But does it actually matter?

All but one person died on that Indian Airlines flight. In 200 years time will it matter? Sure, it'll change things, but does it matter? People die, their atoms don't, the atoms just become something else. The only thing that has changed is how humans perceive things. Are we that important that how we perceive things make a difference to the universe?

 

[luiza]

Why do you think there's a purpose to life?

The OP is confusing our Matterium with Reality -- Universe .

He might more usefully ask as an intellectual thought exercise :-

--- What caused Consciousness to become self aware,
and what made the idea of forcing Novelty into and extra to Creation , so compelling .

Bluntly .
What is the Pay-Off ?
And how is that Pay-Off any better than the one which it would have experienced without Creation ?

Come in Plato and Aristotle .
Or ,from USMB ---Pluto and Horsey Horse .
Other Dip - Stick brands available

 

[cnm]

What caused Consciousness to become self aware

It was the fault of someone begging the question.

 

[Votto]

This is my general view on sex:

Sex and reproduction are not the purpose of life. Cavemen were more than capable of reproducing, but if everyone believed that was the only purpose of life, we wouldn't have modern civilization. Sex and reproduction may play a role in most people's lives, but the purpose of life is far more nuanced than that.

While the primary biological function of sex is reproduction, it isn't the only purpose of sex, and intimacy is arguably a superior purpose. While biological reproduction serves a survival function, the reality is that it is rare for people in the modern world to have to reproduce in order to survive, and most people who decide to have children don't do so in order to "perpetuate the human race" - they do so for more nuanced personal reasons.

So in essence, sex is something that people do simply because they're biologically hardwired to, but it doesn't always serve a specific purpose (such as in the case of people who have unplanned children), and if sex results in children being born into less-than-ideal circumstances, there can be consequences. And while the human race will always need some people to be having children in order to perpetuate itself, theoretically, many people could choose not to have children, and the human race would still continue to survive. A downsize in population wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, just as how people in the developed world are already having fewer children than they did in more primitive times where factors such as life expectancy were lower and rates of infant mortality were higher.

"While the primary biological function of sex is reproduction, it isn't the only purpose of sex, and intimacy is arguably a superior purpose"

Your statement above first tackles the scientific purpose of sex but then shifts to the philosophical and/or spiritual purpose of sex.

The problem here is, atheists tend to claim they only care about science. At the same time, however, they reject the biological purpose of sex by supporting a myriad of sexual practices, most of which avoid trying to reproduce at any cost. In fact, for many they spend most of their waking hours avoiding reproduction, and if it happens, have an abortion doctor on speed dial.

 

[whitehall]

Speaking of caveman sex, scientists have isolated the Neanderthal gene and traced it to modern humans. Maybe we all have a little caveman in us.

 

[MarathonMike]

Not at all.

You're mixing purpose with power.

We, as humans, decide what is right and wrong, and people with power will then enforce those as laws. This happened back in the days of cavemen, through to the modern era.

Humans are manipulated into being as they are with drugs, we want sex because it produces drugs that make us feel good, we like sugar (usually) because it makes us feel good.

The same with thought processes. We think in a certain way because of how our bodies and brains function, rather than us actually being free to think however we like.

Purpose is "there's a reason for all of this". What purpose is there? We CREATE a purpose for ourselves, that's a survival technique, otherwise we'd all be killing ourselves over the pointlessness of life.

But people who REALLY THINK, will see that there is no point to any of this. We live, we die. So what?

You are right we do CREATE a purpose (or purposes) for ourselves. Or we choose not to. No one knows why we are on this spinning rock sharing this collective moment in time experiencing biological life. And that's ok. We do know there's plenty are of things to experience, people to help, things to fix or create etc. Created purpose is still purpose.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You are right we do CREATE a purpose (or purposes) for ourselves. Or we choose not to. No one knows why we are on this spinning rock sharing this collective moment in time experiencing biological life. And that's ok. We do know there's plenty are of things to experience, people to help, things to fix or create etc. Created purpose is still purpose.

Yes, it is. But it's an individual purpose.

What's the purpose of humans as a collective? What's the point of you being born in the first place?

Is there any purpose to humanity? Doesn't seem to be.

 

[MarathonMike]

Yes, it is. But it's an individual purpose.

What's the purpose of humans as a collective? What's the point of you being born in the first place?

Is there any purpose to humanity? Doesn't seem to be.

So here's a wild idea. Maybe humanity is just one of many "experiments" the God is conducting across multiple universes with multiple life forms.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So here's a wild idea. Maybe humanity is just one of many "experiments" the God is conducting across multiple universes with multiple life forms.

Lots of possibilities.

So what would the purpose of humans be, if we're just an experiment?

 

[MarathonMike]

Lots of possibilities.

So what would the purpose of humans be, if we're just an experiment?

On one level, we would simply be part of God's entertainment. On another level as a species, if we perform better than some other competing species maybe we are "rewarded" with continued existence whilst poorer performing species are terminated.

 

[frigidweirdo]

On one level, we would simply be part of God's entertainment. On another level as a species, if we perform better than some other competing species maybe we are "rewarded" with continued existence whilst poorer performing species are terminated.

So, no purpose at all.

Many other hypotheses too. All of which lead to no purpose, other than individual purpose we make for ourselves, or which come as a survival technique.

 

[MarathonMike]

So, no purpose at all.

Many other hypotheses too. All of which lead to no purpose, other than individual purpose we make for ourselves, or which come as a survival technique.

It's all in how you choose to look at your existence.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's all in how you choose to look at your existence.

Yeah, it does. And how we look at it usually depends on the drugs in our bodies and our genetics. Some people seek the truth, most seek comfort and it's more comfortable to believe in a God who's looking out for us and giving us purpose than just "we're just science, biology"

Hence why religion exists.