Pulling down statues? It’s a tradition that dates back to U.S. independence

[Dogmaphobe]

Destruction of public and private property a "Tradition"?....
Oh for heavens sake.....

Of course it's a tradition.

The Taliban did that in Afghanistan to destroy the symbols of non Islamic cultures.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Yup...it’s nothing new.

Pulling down statues? It’s a tradition that dates back to U.S. independence

Enthusiasm for the American Revolution led colonists to burn, disfigure, and deface any symbol of Britain and its hated king.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Fireworks, bands, and cookouts are essential ingredients of any Fourth of July celebration. What’s usually not on the menu is toppling statues, ripping down signs, or burning portraits. But in the days following the new nation’s declaration of independence, Americans went on a frenzy of destruction that makes today’s attackson Confederate and other symbols of white supremacy pale by comparison.
The most dramatic act took place in New York City on July 9, 1776. Early that evening, General George Washington and his troops, along with hundreds of citizens, crowded into what is now City Hall Park to hear a reading of the document that had just arrived from Philadelphia. The enthusiastic throng then headed for Broadway and the two-ton equestrian statue of King George III on Bowling Green.
This was the same route protestors took in 1765 when New Yorkers demonstrated against the Stamp Act taxing a host of goods. The following year, the colony’s assembly commissioned the statue in recognition of the king’s support in repealing the despised legislation. Modeled on the classical equestrian sculpture of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, it arrived from London in 1770 and was erected with great pomp. When John Adams paid his first visit to New York in 1774, he wrote to his wife Abigail that the king’s statue was “very large, of solid lead, gilded with gold, standing on a pedestal of marble very high.”

Two years later, fervent New Yorkers, with the help of Washington’s soldiers, quickly pulled it from its plinth and broke it into pieces. Much of the lead was shipped to Connecticut and melted down to make 42,008 bullets.

U.S. Postmaster Ebenezer Hazard wrote that the statue “has been pulled down to make musket ball of, so that his troops will probably have melted Majesty fired at them.”

A British officer who had the decapitated head rescued from a tavern before it reached the furnace noted that the nose was severed, the laurels were awry, and a musket ball was lodged “part of the way through his head.” He had it shipped back to London “to convince them at home of the infamous disposition of the ungrateful people of this distressed country.”


Washington wrote that while he didn’t doubt the zeal of those who mutilated the statue, he decried what had “so much the appearance of a riot, and want of order.” He told his soldiers to steer clear of such incidents in the future. (Washington also fought an epidemic during the American Revolution.)

So we can pull down statues of abolitionists and marital cheaters like MLK ?

What don't you understand ?

 

[Jitss617]

Yup...it’s nothing new.

Pulling down statues? It’s a tradition that dates back to U.S. independence

Enthusiasm for the American Revolution led colonists to burn, disfigure, and deface any symbol of Britain and its hated king.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Fireworks, bands, and cookouts are essential ingredients of any Fourth of July celebration. What’s usually not on the menu is toppling statues, ripping down signs, or burning portraits. But in the days following the new nation’s declaration of independence, Americans went on a frenzy of destruction that makes today’s attackson Confederate and other symbols of white supremacy pale by comparison.
The most dramatic act took place in New York City on July 9, 1776. Early that evening, General George Washington and his troops, along with hundreds of citizens, crowded into what is now City Hall Park to hear a reading of the document that had just arrived from Philadelphia. The enthusiastic throng then headed for Broadway and the two-ton equestrian statue of King George III on Bowling Green.
This was the same route protestors took in 1765 when New Yorkers demonstrated against the Stamp Act taxing a host of goods. The following year, the colony’s assembly commissioned the statue in recognition of the king’s support in repealing the despised legislation. Modeled on the classical equestrian sculpture of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, it arrived from London in 1770 and was erected with great pomp. When John Adams paid his first visit to New York in 1774, he wrote to his wife Abigail that the king’s statue was “very large, of solid lead, gilded with gold, standing on a pedestal of marble very high.”

Two years later, fervent New Yorkers, with the help of Washington’s soldiers, quickly pulled it from its plinth and broke it into pieces. Much of the lead was shipped to Connecticut and melted down to make 42,008 bullets.

U.S. Postmaster Ebenezer Hazard wrote that the statue “has been pulled down to make musket ball of, so that his troops will probably have melted Majesty fired at them.”

A British officer who had the decapitated head rescued from a tavern before it reached the furnace noted that the nose was severed, the laurels were awry, and a musket ball was lodged “part of the way through his head.” He had it shipped back to London “to convince them at home of the infamous disposition of the ungrateful people of this distressed country.”


Washington wrote that while he didn’t doubt the zeal of those who mutilated the statue, he decried what had “so much the appearance of a riot, and want of order.” He told his soldiers to steer clear of such incidents in the future. (Washington also fought an epidemic during the American Revolution.)

Go away Stalin

 

[Coyote]

Falling Down: History's Toppled Statues And Monuments

As public debate rages over the removal or vandalism of statues in the United States and the United Kingdom, we look back on some of the monuments brought down in recent history.

www.rferl.org

 

[Jitss617]

Falling Down: History's Toppled Statues And Monuments

As public debate rages over the removal or vandalism of statues in the United States and the United Kingdom, we look back on some of the monuments brought down in recent history.

www.rferl.org

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Any statue you morons take down we will put back up

 

[OldLady]

After Lexington & Concord, did King George rethink his colonial policies, consider easing up on the Coercive Acts or reopening Boston Harbor? Nope. It's not good to harden your position against protesters sometimes; the colonists' attitudes also hardened against the King for his refusal to meet them halfway. Everything went downhill from there.

Trump is following that same playbook, although BLM is keeping its cannons in the garage for the moment--I'm not suggesting we are working up to a shooting war here. But by not listening, by simply dismissing them and talking like they're the "enemy," Trump is hardening the protesters' attitudes toward the government, too. Locally, towns and cities are making changes, so maybe this thing will eventually die down, thanks to cooler heads. But on a national level, he's making the same mistake King George did. A lot of you are. The summer isn't half over. It's going to be a long one, the more people resist listening to each other.

 

[Disir]

After Lexington & Concord, did King George rethink his colonial policies, consider easing up on the Coercive Acts or reopening Boston Harbor? Nope. It's not good to harden your position against protesters sometimes; the colonists' attitudes also hardened against the King for his refusal to meet them halfway. Everything went downhill from there.

Trump is following that same playbook, although BLM is keeping its cannons in the garage for the moment--I'm not suggesting we are working up to a shooting war here. But by not listening, by simply dismissing them and talking like they're the "enemy," Trump is hardening the protesters' attitudes toward the government, too. Locally, towns and cities are making changes, so maybe this thing will eventually die down, thanks to cooler heads. But on a national level, he's making the same mistake King George did. A lot of you are. The summer isn't half over. It's going to be a long one, the more people resist listening to each other.

I was scrolling through TikTok last night and there was an older couple with a kid. They say in unison whilst words flash across the screen the following; Trump is a white supremacist and if you vote for him then you are a white supremacist too. There is not a doubt in my mind that these people believe their own bullshit. Further, there are already the seeds being planted in preparation for Trump's reelection of how-once again- this election was stolen and there could be an uprising.

The time for "listening to each other" has passed. I notice that comes at the very end when everything written prior to that line appears to indicate that only one side needs to listen. It passed the day that locally owned businesses were burned to the ground and the looting began. For some of the good folks on this forum, they had a responsibility to do their own research on how the system actually works. That was entirely too much work and it was far easier to allow others to use stats from the 1990s. It was easier not to research some of the non-profits that were rolling out policy.

This will be the second time that I will not be voting for Trump. But, I will not be voting for Biden. The thought of voting for anyone in the Democratic Party makes my skin crawl.

 

[martybegan]

After Lexington & Concord, did King George rethink his colonial policies, consider easing up on the Coercive Acts or reopening Boston Harbor? Nope. It's not good to harden your position against protesters sometimes; the colonists' attitudes also hardened against the King for his refusal to meet them halfway. Everything went downhill from there.

Trump is following that same playbook, although BLM is keeping its cannons in the garage for the moment--I'm not suggesting we are working up to a shooting war here. But by not listening, by simply dismissing them and talking like they're the "enemy," Trump is hardening the protesters' attitudes toward the government, too. Locally, towns and cities are making changes, so maybe this thing will eventually die down, thanks to cooler heads. But on a national level, he's making the same mistake King George did. A lot of you are. The summer isn't half over. It's going to be a long one, the more people resist listening to each other.

No, you are suggesting we just surrender to the mob in the hopes it is placated.

The mob is NEVER placated.

They don't want us to listen, they want us to bend the knee.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

No, you are suggesting we just surrender to the mob in the hopes it is placated.

The mob is NEVER placated.

They don't want us to listen, they want us to bend the knee.

These members of the American Taliban have no idea what they stand FOR. All they know is what hey have they have been trained to hate. They support these thugs erasing history simply because they are miserable individuals with low self esteem.

These posters supporting this wanton violence are an indication that political correctness has become such that it is now truly is a danger to our very way of life.

 

[OldLady]

The time for "listening to each other" has passed. I notice that comes at the very end when everything written prior to that line appears to indicate that only one side needs to listen.

Well, yeah, I was talking about Trump not listening, so....

Sure both sides need to listen. But you're saying it's too late for that anyway, so no sense discussing it.

 

[Meathead]

Yup...it’s nothing new.

Pulling down statues? It’s a tradition that dates back to U.S. independence

Enthusiasm for the American Revolution led colonists to burn, disfigure, and deface any symbol of Britain and its hated king.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Fireworks, bands, and cookouts are essential ingredients of any Fourth of July celebration. What’s usually not on the menu is toppling statues, ripping down signs, or burning portraits. But in the days following the new nation’s declaration of independence, Americans went on a frenzy of destruction that makes today’s attackson Confederate and other symbols of white supremacy pale by comparison.
The most dramatic act took place in New York City on July 9, 1776. Early that evening, General George Washington and his troops, along with hundreds of citizens, crowded into what is now City Hall Park to hear a reading of the document that had just arrived from Philadelphia. The enthusiastic throng then headed for Broadway and the two-ton equestrian statue of King George III on Bowling Green.
This was the same route protestors took in 1765 when New Yorkers demonstrated against the Stamp Act taxing a host of goods. The following year, the colony’s assembly commissioned the statue in recognition of the king’s support in repealing the despised legislation. Modeled on the classical equestrian sculpture of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, it arrived from London in 1770 and was erected with great pomp. When John Adams paid his first visit to New York in 1774, he wrote to his wife Abigail that the king’s statue was “very large, of solid lead, gilded with gold, standing on a pedestal of marble very high.”

Two years later, fervent New Yorkers, with the help of Washington’s soldiers, quickly pulled it from its plinth and broke it into pieces. Much of the lead was shipped to Connecticut and melted down to make 42,008 bullets.

U.S. Postmaster Ebenezer Hazard wrote that the statue “has been pulled down to make musket ball of, so that his troops will probably have melted Majesty fired at them.”

A British officer who had the decapitated head rescued from a tavern before it reached the furnace noted that the nose was severed, the laurels were awry, and a musket ball was lodged “part of the way through his head.” He had it shipped back to London “to convince them at home of the infamous disposition of the ungrateful people of this distressed country.”


Washington wrote that while he didn’t doubt the zeal of those who mutilated the statue, he decried what had “so much the appearance of a riot, and want of order.” He told his soldiers to steer clear of such incidents in the future. (Washington also fought an epidemic during the American Revolution.)

Did they tear them down because some thug got killed?

 

[OldLady]

After Lexington & Concord, did King George rethink his colonial policies, consider easing up on the Coercive Acts or reopening Boston Harbor? Nope. It's not good to harden your position against protesters sometimes; the colonists' attitudes also hardened against the King for his refusal to meet them halfway. Everything went downhill from there.

Trump is following that same playbook, although BLM is keeping its cannons in the garage for the moment--I'm not suggesting we are working up to a shooting war here. But by not listening, by simply dismissing them and talking like they're the "enemy," Trump is hardening the protesters' attitudes toward the government, too. Locally, towns and cities are making changes, so maybe this thing will eventually die down, thanks to cooler heads. But on a national level, he's making the same mistake King George did. A lot of you are. The summer isn't half over. It's going to be a long one, the more people resist listening to each other.

No, you are suggesting we just surrender to the mob in the hopes it is placated.

The mob is NEVER placated.

They don't want us to listen, they want us to bend the knee.

No, and perhaps the colonists wouldn't have been either, if George had eased up on us. But until the King tossed our demands on the floor and told his soldiers to shoot, there were a lot of people in this country who didn't want to break ties with what they considered the "best" nation in the world. I'm just describing a reactionary dynamic you can't deny.

Listening isn't surrendering. It isn't necessarily saying "okay," either. If both sides won't be reasonable, they get what they get. But as off base as I think some of the demands are, others make sense. There is no hope of this ending until a dialogue gets started. That has to happen.

 

[martybegan]

After Lexington & Concord, did King George rethink his colonial policies, consider easing up on the Coercive Acts or reopening Boston Harbor? Nope. It's not good to harden your position against protesters sometimes; the colonists' attitudes also hardened against the King for his refusal to meet them halfway. Everything went downhill from there.

Trump is following that same playbook, although BLM is keeping its cannons in the garage for the moment--I'm not suggesting we are working up to a shooting war here. But by not listening, by simply dismissing them and talking like they're the "enemy," Trump is hardening the protesters' attitudes toward the government, too. Locally, towns and cities are making changes, so maybe this thing will eventually die down, thanks to cooler heads. But on a national level, he's making the same mistake King George did. A lot of you are. The summer isn't half over. It's going to be a long one, the more people resist listening to each other.

No, you are suggesting we just surrender to the mob in the hopes it is placated.

The mob is NEVER placated.

They don't want us to listen, they want us to bend the knee.

No, and perhaps the colonists wouldn't have been either, if George had eased up on us. But until the King tossed our demands on the floor and told his soldiers to shoot, there were a lot of people in this country who didn't want to break ties with what they considered the "best" nation in the world. I'm just describing a reactionary dynamic you can't deny.

Listening isn't surrendering. It isn't necessarily saying "okay," either. If both sides won't be reasonable, they get what they get. But as off base as I think some of the demands are, others make sense. There is no hope of this ending until a dialogue gets started. That has to happen.

They don't want us to listen, again what they want is for us to bend the knee.

When one side thinks the other's position is invalid then no dialogue is possible.

 

[progressive hunter]

Yup...it’s nothing new.

Pulling down statues? It’s a tradition that dates back to U.S. independence

Enthusiasm for the American Revolution led colonists to burn, disfigure, and deface any symbol of Britain and its hated king.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Fireworks, bands, and cookouts are essential ingredients of any Fourth of July celebration. What’s usually not on the menu is toppling statues, ripping down signs, or burning portraits. But in the days following the new nation’s declaration of independence, Americans went on a frenzy of destruction that makes today’s attackson Confederate and other symbols of white supremacy pale by comparison.
The most dramatic act took place in New York City on July 9, 1776. Early that evening, General George Washington and his troops, along with hundreds of citizens, crowded into what is now City Hall Park to hear a reading of the document that had just arrived from Philadelphia. The enthusiastic throng then headed for Broadway and the two-ton equestrian statue of King George III on Bowling Green.
This was the same route protestors took in 1765 when New Yorkers demonstrated against the Stamp Act taxing a host of goods. The following year, the colony’s assembly commissioned the statue in recognition of the king’s support in repealing the despised legislation. Modeled on the classical equestrian sculpture of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, it arrived from London in 1770 and was erected with great pomp. When John Adams paid his first visit to New York in 1774, he wrote to his wife Abigail that the king’s statue was “very large, of solid lead, gilded with gold, standing on a pedestal of marble very high.”

Two years later, fervent New Yorkers, with the help of Washington’s soldiers, quickly pulled it from its plinth and broke it into pieces. Much of the lead was shipped to Connecticut and melted down to make 42,008 bullets.

U.S. Postmaster Ebenezer Hazard wrote that the statue “has been pulled down to make musket ball of, so that his troops will probably have melted Majesty fired at them.”

A British officer who had the decapitated head rescued from a tavern before it reached the furnace noted that the nose was severed, the laurels were awry, and a musket ball was lodged “part of the way through his head.” He had it shipped back to London “to convince them at home of the infamous disposition of the ungrateful people of this distressed country.”


Washington wrote that while he didn’t doubt the zeal of those who mutilated the statue, he decried what had “so much the appearance of a riot, and want of order.” He told his soldiers to steer clear of such incidents in the future. (Washington also fought an epidemic during the American Revolution.)

how is something that hasnt happened in 235 yrs a tradition in this country???

 

[progressive hunter]

Yup...it’s nothing new.

Pulling down statues? It’s a tradition that dates back to U.S. independence

Enthusiasm for the American Revolution led colonists to burn, disfigure, and deface any symbol of Britain and its hated king.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Fireworks, bands, and cookouts are essential ingredients of any Fourth of July celebration. What’s usually not on the menu is toppling statues, ripping down signs, or burning portraits. But in the days following the new nation’s declaration of independence, Americans went on a frenzy of destruction that makes today’s attackson Confederate and other symbols of white supremacy pale by comparison.
The most dramatic act took place in New York City on July 9, 1776. Early that evening, General George Washington and his troops, along with hundreds of citizens, crowded into what is now City Hall Park to hear a reading of the document that had just arrived from Philadelphia. The enthusiastic throng then headed for Broadway and the two-ton equestrian statue of King George III on Bowling Green.
This was the same route protestors took in 1765 when New Yorkers demonstrated against the Stamp Act taxing a host of goods. The following year, the colony’s assembly commissioned the statue in recognition of the king’s support in repealing the despised legislation. Modeled on the classical equestrian sculpture of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, it arrived from London in 1770 and was erected with great pomp. When John Adams paid his first visit to New York in 1774, he wrote to his wife Abigail that the king’s statue was “very large, of solid lead, gilded with gold, standing on a pedestal of marble very high.”

Two years later, fervent New Yorkers, with the help of Washington’s soldiers, quickly pulled it from its plinth and broke it into pieces. Much of the lead was shipped to Connecticut and melted down to make 42,008 bullets.

U.S. Postmaster Ebenezer Hazard wrote that the statue “has been pulled down to make musket ball of, so that his troops will probably have melted Majesty fired at them.”

A British officer who had the decapitated head rescued from a tavern before it reached the furnace noted that the nose was severed, the laurels were awry, and a musket ball was lodged “part of the way through his head.” He had it shipped back to London “to convince them at home of the infamous disposition of the ungrateful people of this distressed country.”


Washington wrote that while he didn’t doubt the zeal of those who mutilated the statue, he decried what had “so much the appearance of a riot, and want of order.” He told his soldiers to steer clear of such incidents in the future. (Washington also fought an epidemic during the American Revolution.)

Frederick Douglass statue torn down in New York

A statue of Frederick Douglass was torn down over the holiday weekend in Rochester, New York: The base of a Frederick Douglass statue torn down overnight here in Maplewood Park. Bits of the statue …

therightscoop.com

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Yup...it’s nothing new.

Pulling down statues? It’s a tradition that dates back to U.S. independence

Enthusiasm for the American Revolution led colonists to burn, disfigure, and deface any symbol of Britain and its hated king.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Fireworks, bands, and cookouts are essential ingredients of any Fourth of July celebration. What’s usually not on the menu is toppling statues, ripping down signs, or burning portraits. But in the days following the new nation’s declaration of independence, Americans went on a frenzy of destruction that makes today’s attackson Confederate and other symbols of white supremacy pale by comparison.
The most dramatic act took place in New York City on July 9, 1776. Early that evening, General George Washington and his troops, along with hundreds of citizens, crowded into what is now City Hall Park to hear a reading of the document that had just arrived from Philadelphia. The enthusiastic throng then headed for Broadway and the two-ton equestrian statue of King George III on Bowling Green.
This was the same route protestors took in 1765 when New Yorkers demonstrated against the Stamp Act taxing a host of goods. The following year, the colony’s assembly commissioned the statue in recognition of the king’s support in repealing the despised legislation. Modeled on the classical equestrian sculpture of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, it arrived from London in 1770 and was erected with great pomp. When John Adams paid his first visit to New York in 1774, he wrote to his wife Abigail that the king’s statue was “very large, of solid lead, gilded with gold, standing on a pedestal of marble very high.”

Two years later, fervent New Yorkers, with the help of Washington’s soldiers, quickly pulled it from its plinth and broke it into pieces. Much of the lead was shipped to Connecticut and melted down to make 42,008 bullets.

U.S. Postmaster Ebenezer Hazard wrote that the statue “has been pulled down to make musket ball of, so that his troops will probably have melted Majesty fired at them.”

A British officer who had the decapitated head rescued from a tavern before it reached the furnace noted that the nose was severed, the laurels were awry, and a musket ball was lodged “part of the way through his head.” He had it shipped back to London “to convince them at home of the infamous disposition of the ungrateful people of this distressed country.”


Washington wrote that while he didn’t doubt the zeal of those who mutilated the statue, he decried what had “so much the appearance of a riot, and want of order.” He told his soldiers to steer clear of such incidents in the future. (Washington also fought an epidemic during the American Revolution.)

Like the statue of Matthias Baldwin in Philadelphia that was defaced with the words murder and colonizer. The man was an ardent abolitionist and champion for the right to vote for Black people. Also Robert Gould Shaw and the 54th Regiment Memorial was defaced. I can go on and on. The groups you loons are supporting are historically retarded.

The symbols of the hated America are being destroyed just like the symbols of the hated British king was destroyed. Even abolitionists are American. Frederick Douglass was a black abolitionist. The monument to the all black regiment in the civil war was defaced. We know that this has nothing to do with race. Burn Loot Murder wants the entire country destroyed.

 

[progressive hunter]

Yup...it’s nothing new.

Pulling down statues? It’s a tradition that dates back to U.S. independence

Enthusiasm for the American Revolution led colonists to burn, disfigure, and deface any symbol of Britain and its hated king.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Fireworks, bands, and cookouts are essential ingredients of any Fourth of July celebration. What’s usually not on the menu is toppling statues, ripping down signs, or burning portraits. But in the days following the new nation’s declaration of independence, Americans went on a frenzy of destruction that makes today’s attackson Confederate and other symbols of white supremacy pale by comparison.
The most dramatic act took place in New York City on July 9, 1776. Early that evening, General George Washington and his troops, along with hundreds of citizens, crowded into what is now City Hall Park to hear a reading of the document that had just arrived from Philadelphia. The enthusiastic throng then headed for Broadway and the two-ton equestrian statue of King George III on Bowling Green.
This was the same route protestors took in 1765 when New Yorkers demonstrated against the Stamp Act taxing a host of goods. The following year, the colony’s assembly commissioned the statue in recognition of the king’s support in repealing the despised legislation. Modeled on the classical equestrian sculpture of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, it arrived from London in 1770 and was erected with great pomp. When John Adams paid his first visit to New York in 1774, he wrote to his wife Abigail that the king’s statue was “very large, of solid lead, gilded with gold, standing on a pedestal of marble very high.”

Two years later, fervent New Yorkers, with the help of Washington’s soldiers, quickly pulled it from its plinth and broke it into pieces. Much of the lead was shipped to Connecticut and melted down to make 42,008 bullets.

U.S. Postmaster Ebenezer Hazard wrote that the statue “has been pulled down to make musket ball of, so that his troops will probably have melted Majesty fired at them.”

A British officer who had the decapitated head rescued from a tavern before it reached the furnace noted that the nose was severed, the laurels were awry, and a musket ball was lodged “part of the way through his head.” He had it shipped back to London “to convince them at home of the infamous disposition of the ungrateful people of this distressed country.”


Washington wrote that while he didn’t doubt the zeal of those who mutilated the statue, he decried what had “so much the appearance of a riot, and want of order.” He told his soldiers to steer clear of such incidents in the future. (Washington also fought an epidemic during the American Revolution.)

Like the statue of Matthias Baldwin in Philadelphia that was defaced with the words murder and colonizer. The man was an ardent abolitionist and champion for the right to vote for Black people. Also Robert Gould Shaw and the 54th Regiment Memorial was defaced. I can go on and on. The groups you loons are supporting are historically retarded.

The symbols of the hated America are being destroyed just like the symbols of the hated British king was destroyed. Even abolitionists are American. Frederick Douglass was a black abolitionist. The monument to the all black regiment in the civil war was defaced. We know that this has nothing to do with race. Burn Loot Murder wants the entire country destroyed.

this is a modern day book burning to erase history,,,

 

[MisterBeale]

Poor poor Coyote

Generally reasonable?

She has been so indoctrinated by corporate and foundational socialist media?

She has lost her damn mind.

 

[MisterBeale]

After Lexington & Concord, did King George rethink his colonial policies, consider easing up on the Coercive Acts or reopening Boston Harbor? Nope. It's not good to harden your position against protesters sometimes; the colonists' attitudes also hardened against the King for his refusal to meet them halfway. Everything went downhill from there.

Trump is following that same playbook, although BLM is keeping its cannons in the garage for the moment--I'm not suggesting we are working up to a shooting war here. But by not listening, by simply dismissing them and talking like they're the "enemy," Trump is hardening the protesters' attitudes toward the government, too. Locally, towns and cities are making changes, so maybe this thing will eventually die down, thanks to cooler heads. But on a national level, he's making the same mistake King George did. A lot of you are. The summer isn't half over. It's going to be a long one, the more people resist listening to each other.

I was scrolling through TikTok last night and there was an older couple with a kid. They say in unison whilst words flash across the screen the following; Trump is a white supremacist and if you vote for him then you are a white supremacist too. There is not a doubt in my mind that these people believe their own bullshit. Further, there are already the seeds being planted in preparation for Trump's reelection of how-once again- this election was stolen and there could be an uprising.

The time for "listening to each other" has passed. I notice that comes at the very end when everything written prior to that line appears to indicate that only one side needs to listen. It passed the day that locally owned businesses were burned to the ground and the looting began. For some of the good folks on this forum, they had a responsibility to do their own research on how the system actually works. That was entirely too much work and it was far easier to allow others to use stats from the 1990s. It was easier not to research some of the non-profits that were rolling out policy.

This will be the second time that I will not be voting for Trump. But, I will not be voting for Biden. The thought of voting for anyone in the Democratic Party makes my skin crawl.

I'm sitting out on the sidelines again as well.

I would vote for Trump, but I just know too much.

Biden is a joke.

Both these monsters are a war mongers, and they are both working with some nasty folks.

Trump hasn't got them out of his administration, and he lies too much about what he has claimed he was going to do, versus what he actually does.

But as far as this "false paradigm" about Trump not caring, and Biden being a uniter? You are right. It is bullshit.

Trump is going out there trying to listen, while Biden is hiding in his basement, using money funneled through ACTBLUE, the Ford foundation, and the corporate media's interlocking directorate, to propagandize the nation into hating each other. It is sick, it is like one of Soros' color revolutions, right here at home.

Biden plans to stay home, testing limits of virtual campaign

Joe Biden has no foreseeable plans to resume in-person campaigning amid a pandemic that is testing whether a national presidential election can be won by a candidate communicating almost entirely from home...

apnews.com

Ben Carson says Trump considering 'national listening tour' to engage with black community

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Dr. Ben Carson told "Bill Hemmer Reports" Wednesday that President Trump is weighing embarking on a "national listening tour" to engage with and hear the concerns of minority communities.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Yup...it’s nothing new.

Pulling down statues? It’s a tradition that dates back to U.S. independence

Enthusiasm for the American Revolution led colonists to burn, disfigure, and deface any symbol of Britain and its hated king.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Fireworks, bands, and cookouts are essential ingredients of any Fourth of July celebration. What’s usually not on the menu is toppling statues, ripping down signs, or burning portraits. But in the days following the new nation’s declaration of independence, Americans went on a frenzy of destruction that makes today’s attackson Confederate and other symbols of white supremacy pale by comparison.
The most dramatic act took place in New York City on July 9, 1776. Early that evening, General George Washington and his troops, along with hundreds of citizens, crowded into what is now City Hall Park to hear a reading of the document that had just arrived from Philadelphia. The enthusiastic throng then headed for Broadway and the two-ton equestrian statue of King George III on Bowling Green.
This was the same route protestors took in 1765 when New Yorkers demonstrated against the Stamp Act taxing a host of goods. The following year, the colony’s assembly commissioned the statue in recognition of the king’s support in repealing the despised legislation. Modeled on the classical equestrian sculpture of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, it arrived from London in 1770 and was erected with great pomp. When John Adams paid his first visit to New York in 1774, he wrote to his wife Abigail that the king’s statue was “very large, of solid lead, gilded with gold, standing on a pedestal of marble very high.”

Two years later, fervent New Yorkers, with the help of Washington’s soldiers, quickly pulled it from its plinth and broke it into pieces. Much of the lead was shipped to Connecticut and melted down to make 42,008 bullets.

U.S. Postmaster Ebenezer Hazard wrote that the statue “has been pulled down to make musket ball of, so that his troops will probably have melted Majesty fired at them.”

A British officer who had the decapitated head rescued from a tavern before it reached the furnace noted that the nose was severed, the laurels were awry, and a musket ball was lodged “part of the way through his head.” He had it shipped back to London “to convince them at home of the infamous disposition of the ungrateful people of this distressed country.”


Washington wrote that while he didn’t doubt the zeal of those who mutilated the statue, he decried what had “so much the appearance of a riot, and want of order.” He told his soldiers to steer clear of such incidents in the future. (Washington also fought an epidemic during the American Revolution.)

So we can pull down statues of abolitionists and marital cheaters like MLK ?

Wouldn't be at all a fan of doing this, but. . .

Rochester, NY, last night. The far lefties beat you to the punch when the took down a statue of famous abolitionist Frederick Douglass. These assholes are historically fucking illiterate. I say public corporal punishment for these fuckers. Cane 'em like they do in Singapore.