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And there is NO substantiation by you in this thread! Zero to substantiate YOUR personal subjective and uninformed opinion! Zero!
I didn't make the claim you did.I guess they haven't taught you how to google yet. Either that or you're not smart enough to figure it out.
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Why are you derailing the thread with this BS?Demonstrably false. Look at post 141 and your response in 142. Every one of the withdrawals under Trump was done while the Taliban met only one of the conditions they agree to in Donnie's Skedaddle Accords. He withdrew over 10,000 troops and left the Next CiC only 2500 to mop up with. He did it on purpose to embarrass the United States because he hates most of the Country.
Why are you derailing the thread with this BS?
The 2,500 remaining troops were supposed to be a stabilizing force that aided the Afghan Army and was to remain until conditions on the ground warranted their removal.
Biden was the one that turned that into a national embarrassment and international disaster.
To understand President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw troops from Afghanistan against the advice of the US military establishment, you need to go back to a debate that played out more than a decade ago, during the early years of Barack Obama’s presidency.Not according to the Doha agreement. we were suppose to hold at 8600 until the Taliban met their agree to conditions. They didn't, but Trump still continued the Doha agreement withdrawals as if they did. Until he finally order the complete withdrawal on Nov. 11th 2020, only to flip-flop when the General confronted him over our obligation to the Afghan Army, so he chose the bare minimum number they requested. The OPOS left no plans to get those final troops out either. He did it on purpose to make it as difficult as possible for the military and the incoming CiC.
Benedict Donald earned that title.
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To understand President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw troops from Afghanistan against the advice of the US military establishment
We were at peace. And now the world is in turmoil. We see it in front of us and still there is disbelief.All you have to understand is that the 2500 remaining forces were protected by the Truce and if the decision was made to not honor the Doha accord, the Taliban would have gone back to war with those 2500 troops. So to protect those troops more troops would have been deployed, and the cycle of the never ending war would continue, like the MIC would have liked. The weakling Trump proved he would not stand up to them. It took a strong and decisive leader to do that.
So the military advising Biden were totally uninformed, knowledgeable about the military and what would happen.All you have to understand is that the 2500 remaining forces were protected by the Truce and if the decision was made to not honor the Doha accord, the Taliban would have gone back to war with those 2500 troops. So to protect those troops more troops would have been deployed, and the cycle of the never ending war would continue, like the MIC would have liked. The weakling Trump proved he would not stand up to them. It took a strong and decisive leader to do that.
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Biden made the decision to leave Afghanistan. The only other choice with the options he was left with was to go back to war with the Taliban. He then decided to order his generals to plan the evacuation. Everyone knew the Taliban was going on the offensive as soon as we started leaving any province. The generals explained all of their decisions and what went wrong during their testimony before Congress last year.So the military advising Biden were totally uninformed, knowledgeable about the military and what would happen.
No he didn't have to leave and more importantly LEAVE before all American citizens and people that had been given the word of Biden they would be able to leave! Remember Biden promised...Biden made the decision to leave Afghanistan. The only other choice with the options he was left with was to go back to war with the Taliban. He then decided to order his generals to plan the evacuation. Everyone knew the Taliban was going on the offensive as soon as we started leaving any province. The generals explained all of their decisions and what went wrong during their testimony before Congress last year.
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No he didn't have to leave and more importantly.....
You wrote: "Biden made the decision to leave Afghanistan. The only other choice with the options he was left with was to go back to war with the Taliban. He then decided to order his generals to plan the evacuation. Everyone knew the Taliban was going on the offensive as soon as we started leaving any province. The generals explained all of their decisions and what went wrong during their testimony before Congress last year."I never said he had to you liar. He is the CiC of the worlds most powerful military, The Generals testify that with just 20 or 30 thousand fresh soldiers, things could have been turned around in Afghanistan. They could have taken Kabul with only a few hundred casualties. He could have redeployed troops and tried to force the Taliban to comply with the Doha Accords Trump all but ignored for his Skedaddle Plan, but at what cost. The Afghan people hated our occupation more than they feared the Taliban. Despite being set up like a bowling pin, Biden took the hit and withdrew our forces.
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You are simply fabricating bullshit here of course. Planning for a withdrawal would be done at the Pentagon and the different scenarios that survive the vetting process would then be presented to the President who can choose one of those as presented, ask for a better plan or do as Joe apparently chose which was to order the most embarrassing withdrawal of US troops in the history of the country.Not according to the Doha agreement. we were suppose to hold at 8600 until the Taliban met their agree to conditions. They didn't, but Trump still continued the Doha agreement withdrawals as if they did. Until he finally order the complete withdrawal on Nov. 11th 2020, only to flip-flop when the General confronted him over our obligation to the Afghan Army, so he chose the bare minimum number they requested. The OPOS left no plans to get those final troops out either. He did it on purpose to make it as difficult as possible for the military and the incoming CiC.
Benedict Donald earned that title.
As I said before the Top Generals already testified at length in pubic and classified setting. They did the planning and Biden approved their plan.You are simply fabricating bullshit here of course. Planning for a withdrawal would be done at the Pentagon and the different scenarios that survive the vetting process would then be presented to the President who can choose one of those as presented, ask for a better plan or do as Joe apparently chose which was to order the most embarrassing withdrawal of US troops in the history of the country.
But BIDEN knew better then ALL the Top Generals! But Biden overruled their expertise and frankly common sense!As I said before the Top Generals already testified at length in pubic and classified setting. They did the planning and Biden approved their plan.
The Neo-GOP just have to ignore the duplicitous actions of Benedict Donald prior to leaving office that led to the rapid collapse of the Afghan Army and Government in the face of the US withdrawal. That's for cheap political gain. The warhawks want Americans to forget the 20 year disaster the Afghan Occupation was and blame the entire 20 years on the withdrawal of the final 2500 troops.
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With what? Those remaining troops were the minimal number needed to support the Afghan Army. There were no troops left in the country to go rounding up Americans citizens who had 18 months advanced notice that our troops were leaving. Is it the governments job to locate and evacuate every American who ventured into the War Zone? As it were, because the force was so depleted at the end of Trumps term, they had to redeploy about 5000 troops to complete the evac.At least remove the American citizens FIRST before you remove the 2,500 troops!
FACTS again...you provide NONE!With what? Those remaining troops were the minimal number needed to support the Afghan Army. There were no troops left in the country to go rounding up Americans citizens who had 18 months advanced notice that our troops were leaving. Is it the governments job to locate and evacuate every American who ventured into the War Zone? As it were, because the force was so depleted at the end of Trumps term, they had to redeploy about 5000 troops to complete the evac.
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You continue fabricating bullshit.The Neo-GOP just have to ignore the duplicitous actions of Benedict Donald prior to leaving office that led to the rapid collapse of the Afghan Army and Government in the face of the US withdrawal. That's for cheap political gain. The warhawks want Americans to forget the 20 year disaster the Afghan Occupation was and blame the entire 20 years on the withdrawal of the final 2500 troops.
The evacuation of US citizens, green card holders and SVA's, was nowhere near completed prior to the final pullout. That's why tens of thousands were left behind to fend for themselves.With what? Those remaining troops were the minimal number needed to support the Afghan Army. There were no troops left in the country to go rounding up Americans citizens who had 18 months advanced notice that our troops were leaving. Is it the governments job to locate and evacuate every American who ventured into the War Zone? As it were, because the force was so depleted at the end of Trumps term, they had to redeploy about 5000 troops to complete the evac.
So why couldn't he delay the next withdrawal date? He delayed May 1?
