Proud of my Home Town

[dblack]

How do you suppose they do that? Invite them

You seem to be trolling me for some reason. Do you have an opinion on the special deals States and local governments give to wealthy interests?

 

[dblack]

Does your beef date back to FDR and 1935 when he rolled out welfare as we know it and forced taxpayers to fund individuals?

That's a somewhat different scenario, but I opposed that as well. Why do you ask?

 

[Jarlaxle]

They want tax revenues

I was referring to the fat envelopes discreetly passed to politicians.

 

[jc456]

I was referring to the fat envelopes discreetly passed to politicians.

So you believe the team pays off the politicians to get their money back?

 

[Jarlaxle]

So you believe the team pays off the politicians to get their money back?

Money back? No, they pay people off to get taxpayers to build a stadium for them!

 

[jc456]

Money back? No, they pay people off to get taxpayers to build a stadium for them!

Duh, money back

 

[BrokeLoser]

That's a somewhat different scenario, but I opposed that as well. Why do you ask?

Both require taxpayer investment. The two scenarios are a bit different…one offers a real ROi and one doesn’t.

 

[dblack]

Both require taxpayer investment. The two scenarios are a bit different…one offers a real ROi and one doesn’t.

So what? They're both abuse of government power.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I voted against a new arena for the San Antonio Spurs, just like I voted against the previous arena. The owners are multi billionaires and these arenas cost close to a billion now. If it's such a good deal, then why don't the owners fund the whole deal and keep the concessions. And, the taxpayers usually end up voting for it while a ticket price in the upper stands goes for 300 dollars and a beer runs you 20 bucks. Never makes sense to me.

 

[dblack]

I voted against a new arena for the San Antonio Spurs, just like I voted against the previous arena. The owners are multi billionaires and these arenas cost close to a billion now. If it's such a good deal, then why don't the owners fund the whole deal and keep the concessions. And, the taxpayers usually end up voting for it while a ticket price in the upper stands goes for 300 dollars and a beer runs you 20 bucks. Never makes sense to me.

What do you think about the general practice of states offering special deals to get companies to move to there? Should government be in the business of offering some people special discounts that everyone doesn't get?

 

[BrokeLoser]

What do you think about the general practice of states offering special deals to get companies to move to there? Should government be in the business of offering some people special discounts that everyone doesn't get?

Are states “promoting the general welfare” of the people by incentivizing business enterprises to move there? More jobs, more local revenues?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

What do you think about the general practice of states offering special deals to get companies to move to there? Should government be in the business of offering some people special discounts that everyone doesn't get?

Tax incentives or breaks. I'm mixed on that. I've built up and sold a couple of businesses and never got to enjoy the tax breaks that mega corps received however, if they're employing tens of thousands of people, I can see from that perspective why a state would want to lure them in. Pro sports don't have tens of thousands full time employees on the payrolls. They just fleece the taxpayers.

 

[dblack]

Tax incentives or breaks. I'm mixed on that. I've built up and sold a couple of businesses and never got to enjoy the tax breaks that mega corps received however, if they're employing tens of thousands of people, I can see from that perspective why a state would want to lure them in. Pro sports don't have tens of thousands full time employees on the payrolls. They just fleece the taxpayers.

So you don't see it as a violation of the equal protection?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

So you don't see it as a violation of the equal protection?

I think to make it right it should extend to all business not just a select few. Yes I do.

 

[jc456]

I voted against a new arena for the San Antonio Spurs, just like I voted against the previous arena. The owners are multi billionaires and these arenas cost close to a billion now. If it's such a good deal, then why don't the owners fund the whole deal and keep the concessions. And, the taxpayers usually end up voting for it while a ticket price in the upper stands goes for 300 dollars and a beer runs you 20 bucks. Never makes sense to me.

The problem is the other cities. Do you really want your teams to go away? interesting.

 

[jc456]

Tax incentives or breaks. I'm mixed on that. I've built up and sold a couple of businesses and never got to enjoy the tax breaks that mega corps received however, if they're employing tens of thousands of people, I can see from that perspective why a state would want to lure them in. Pro sports don't have tens of thousands full time employees on the payrolls. They just fleece the taxpayers.

the issue is that the cities want the tax revenues from the events. Hotel, restaurants, transportation, airports, beverages in the building, with ticket revenues for the number of home games. It makes sense to me. Unless you just want sports to go away, and if you think that, that's never going to happen. Why shouldn't the people/ fans vote to keep their teams rather than them moving to some other location? Weird.

 

[jc456]

It seems that other businesses do ask for privileges to keep their factories in cities, to think otherwise is again weird. Amazon was the latest that I can remember. And New York turned them away. wow. All those jobs and revenues. Most likely saw an increase in property taxes to make up the difference. People really aren't very bright.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Well, they'll get the finger back. The Missouri/Kansas split isn't necessarily a friendly one. I know lots of people who aren't renewing season tickets, even though the actual move won't be for several years.

Unfortunately those who don’t renew their season tickets will be easily replaced.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

It seems that other businesses do ask for privileges to keep their factories in cities, to think otherwise is again weird. Amazon was the latest that I can remember. And New York turned them away. wow. All those jobs and revenues. Most likely saw an increase in property taxes to make up the difference. People really aren't very bright.

AOC isn’t very bright.

 

[jc456]

AOC isn’t very bright.

A box of rocks is smarter